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| 00:19.53 | jdh41 | hmm.... |
| 00:20.21 | jdh41 | can anyone tell me whether the kernel source in buildroot is actually ever built |
| 00:20.47 | jdh41 | or do they jsut provide it for GPL reasons and use the other kernel package which has the binary onyl stuff built in? |
| 00:21.09 | jdh41 | (I'm currently having issues trying to get soemthing to copile against the headers in there) |
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| 00:54.03 | bronson_ | TheMasterMind1: I was using OZ 3.2, and it still bit me. |
| 00:54.16 | bronson_ | (the opiealarm bug) |
| 00:54.43 | bronson_ | The fix is described on the Opie Bugs mantis. |
| 00:55.11 | bronson_ | I tried downloading the pre-cooked package and installing it, but I don't think it works with OZ 3.2... Dunno. Didn't work for me. |
| 00:55.54 | bronson_ | I need to go look for an apartment in Santa Cruz. See you guys in a week or so... |
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| 05:55.01 | LordVan | anyone who got jeode work with OZ ? |
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| 07:03.02 | a8ksh4 | lordvan, it's supposed to work. did you rip the jeod.ipk from your sharp rom? |
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| 07:21.30 | LordVan | a8ksh4: i got one .. |
| 07:21.48 | LordVan | not my own though since i didn't save mine ;) |
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| 09:02.16 | dj-submerge | hi folks |
| 09:02.25 | dj-submerge | just got my zaurus, but i'm unable to flash OZ. CF should be vfat ( how can I check that ) because i took it from my |
| 09:02.28 | dj-submerge | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:07.39 | yeiazel | you renamed the files correctly ? |
| 09:07.45 | yeiazel | (zImage...) |
| 09:13.23 | pizzathief | the files need to be in /mnt/cf |
| 09:17.08 | dj-submerge | yeiazel: yes i did.. i've got a initrd.bin and a zImage on /mnt/cf and some other files |
| 09:20.01 | yeiazel | some CF cards work well with the Z, but don't work just for flashing |
| 09:22.45 | pizzathief | do the md5sums match? |
| 09:25.13 | dj-submerge | pizzathief: how can i check this on the zaurus ? |
| 09:25.35 | pizzathief | well , I thought "md5sum" was on the zaurus... |
| 09:25.50 | pizzathief | maybe you need to install the console program from the sharp CD |
| 09:26.32 | pizzathief | I eventually figured most of this out a few weeks ago |
| 09:27.16 | pizzathief | the md5sum of initrd.bin was wrong , so I got console mode , but no opie |
| 09:27.46 | pizzathief | had to get a usb CF card writer just to try it again |
| 09:30.27 | dj-submerge | is there an ESC or CTRL-C on the little keyboard ? |
| 09:31.02 | pizzathief | there's a web page that lists how to generate them.. |
| 09:31.24 | pizzathief | "|" is shift-space BTW |
| 09:31.31 | yeiazel | Ctrl-C is Fn-C or Calendar-C |
| 09:31.49 | dj-submerge | tnx |
| 09:31.53 | yeiazel | Esc is Cancel |
| 09:34.30 | dj-submerge | I just entered check both md5sums.. both are ok |
| 09:34.36 | dj-submerge | ehh sorry.. |
| 09:36.55 | pizzathief | http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/zaurus-faq/sections/character_input.php3 |
| 09:37.04 | pizzathief | that lists a bunch |
| 09:38.14 | dj-submerge | tnx |
| 09:39.13 | dj-submerge | another question.. do i have to create a new user to use telnet ? |
| 09:39.19 | dj-submerge | can't login with root |
| 09:39.28 | pizzathief | I didn't |
| 09:39.40 | pizzathief | root doesn't have a password.. (didn't for me) |
| 09:39.54 | dj-submerge | well i set one |
| 09:40.51 | yeiazel | and use ssh rather than telnet... |
| 09:42.52 | jdh41 | dj-submerge: telnet not installed by default, use ssh |
| 09:43.24 | yeiazel | heh :) |
| 09:43.24 | dj-submerge | jdh41: telnet is installed per default .. well you have to change the config files... |
| 09:44.10 | jdh41 | ah |
| 09:44.12 | dj-submerge | I just accessed my CF via ftp and deletet everything except initrd.bin and zImage. Anything else I should pay attention ? |
| 09:45.58 | jdh41 | make sure the AC adapter is plugged in? |
| 09:46.16 | dj-submerge | ok, i'll try it once again... |
| 09:46.37 | jdh41 | good luck |
| 09:48.03 | pizzathief | I'm still trying to get networking going |
| 09:48.06 | dj-submerge | arghhhh !!!! grmp #!# both led just flash up for about one sec |
| 09:48.20 | pizzathief | I can ping Z from desktop and vice versa |
| 09:48.20 | dj-submerge | this means no flash.. am i right ? |
| 09:48.43 | pizzathief | the LED should turn on for a few minutes |
| 09:49.15 | dj-submerge | can I somehow format my CF card via the zaurus ? |
| 09:49.16 | jdh41 | dj-submerge: sounds like it |
| 09:49.26 | jdh41 | mkfs.vfat iirc |
| 09:49.30 | jdh41 | on /dev/hda1 |
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| 09:50.18 | dj-submerge | iirc ? |
| 09:50.26 | jdh41 | if i remember correctly |
| 09:51.46 | dj-submerge | there is no man on the zaurus ? |
| 09:52.07 | jdh41 | takes up a lot of room I'd have thought |
| 09:52.11 | jdh41 | try -h? |
| 09:52.15 | jdh41 | (no garuntees here) |
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| 10:02.52 | dj-submerge | its mkfs.msdos /dev/hda1 |
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| 10:45.56 | dj-submerge | yeah it works.. my zaurus is flashing ;) |
| 10:46.38 | pizzathief | so making the filesystem again worked? |
| 10:46.49 | pizzathief | er.. made the flash work... |
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| 11:17.07 | dj-submerge | yes.. after formating the CF |
| 11:18.25 | dj-submerge | is it possible to sync with evolution ? |
| 11:18.53 | pizzathief | apparently... |
| 11:19.05 | pizzathief | haven't got that far yet |
| 11:24.59 | pizzathief | multisync |
| 11:25.05 | pizzathief | I think that's it |
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| 15:53.49 | raceme | hi all |
| 15:53.58 | raceme | is there a location with the list of wifi cards supported by OZ ? |
| 15:54.38 | tigerpig | yes, can't remember where though |
| 15:55.12 | raceme | my boss wants to buy a wifi card for testing purpose with my Zaurus and as I never searched before about compatibility I have no idea... |
| 15:55.35 | tigerpig | it's not so much compatibility as battery consumption |
| 15:55.40 | tigerpig | I think most of them work |
| 15:55.49 | tigerpig | but some reduce your battery life to 40 mins |
| 15:56.38 | Twiun | tried looking at docs.zaurus.com? |
| 15:56.48 | Twiun | or searching the zaurus.com/dev/board forum? |
| 15:57.21 | tigerpig | http://docs.zaurus.com/wirelesscards.shtml |
| 15:57.25 | tigerpig | and the links at the bottom |
| 15:57.31 | tigerpig | that's what I was thinking of |
| 15:57.54 | raceme | watching... |
| 15:58.44 | raceme | well it seems that he's ordering PC CARD WL110 from hp.com ... |
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| 20:50.13 | LordVan | hmm.. |
| 20:54.15 | LordVan | why can't i download so many packages in unstable ? (i'm not on the list ..) |
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| 22:28.11 | alobodig | Are there combination 802.11b/bluetooth cards? |
| 22:30.54 | jdh41 | ah, kergoth: I'm trying to build something against the 2.4.6 kernel but its not working |
| 22:31.37 | jdh41 | I should be building against an untar'd version of sources/linux-2.4.6.tar.gz |
| 22:31.44 | jdh41 | right? |
| 22:32.14 | kergoth | uh |
| 22:32.20 | kergoth | you need a lot more than just linux-2.4.6.tar.gz |
| 22:32.26 | jdh41 | after pointing the include directory and c compiler to the right direction and symlink asm to asm-arm |
| 22:32.39 | jdh41 | I do |
| 22:32.41 | jdh41 | what? |
| 22:32.45 | zauruslover | hi kergoth |
| 22:32.46 | kergoth | the z doesnt run 2.4.6 |
| 22:32.53 | kergoth | it runs 2.4.6-rmk1-np2-embedix |
| 22:32.57 | kergoth | plus an assload of other patches |
| 22:33.12 | kergoth | and you wont be able to build against it properly without copying our .config over, doing a make oldconfig dep |
| 22:33.21 | jdh41 | ah, hows the best way to get all those applied - modify the Makefiules build root uses? |
| 22:33.49 | kergoth | ? |
| 22:33.59 | zauruslover | kergoth ... is OZ 3.2 stable now on the C700 ? |
| 22:34.00 | kergoth | make SUBDIRS=packages/kernel-collie sourcetrees |
| 22:34.01 | kergoth | ta da |
| 22:34.03 | jdh41 | that is modify what buildroot does |
| 22:34.06 | kergoth | zauruslover: oz 3.2 doesnt support the c700 |
| 22:34.09 | kergoth | jdh41: modify it for what? |
| 22:34.30 | jdh41 | just trying to compile a kernel module (still the same one) |
| 22:34.35 | kergoth | .. |
| 22:34.45 | kergoth | just let buildroot build the damn kernel |
| 22:34.46 | zauruslover | oh ... ok ! just got my C700 delievered today ... and look at my luck, sharp announced the C750/760 today :(( |
| 22:35.10 | jdh41 | will it leave me a nice source tree to compile against? |
| 22:35.31 | kergoth | make SUBDIRS=packages/kernel-collie sourcetrees -> build/linux now exists properly extracted |
| 22:35.43 | kergoth | make SUBDIRS=packages/kernel-collie -> build/linux was used to build output/zImage-blah |
| 22:35.52 | kergoth | read the docs/ |
| 22:35.55 | jdh41 | ok |
| 22:36.10 | zauruslover | kergoth : then what version of OZ is for the C700 ? Is that version stable enough for day-to-day PIM usage etc |
| 22:36.20 | kergoth | no version of oz is *released* for c700 |
| 22:36.24 | kergoth | its in experimental/ |
| 22:36.28 | kergoth | along with the ipaq images |
| 22:36.30 | zauruslover | ok experimental I mean |
| 22:36.33 | kergoth | stability isnt for me to judge, i'm not a user |
| 22:36.33 | zauruslover | :) |
| 22:36.42 | zauruslover | aah :) |
| 22:40.25 | zauruslover | kergoth : whats the full URL for the experimental version of OZ for the C700 / |
| 22:40.35 | zauruslover | and whats the min Flash I would need ? |
| 22:40.42 | zauruslover | 32MB/64MB ? |
| 22:40.49 | zauruslover | I mean CF card |
| 22:40.57 | kergoth | 16 is minimum |
| 22:41.00 | kergoth | cf or sd |
| 22:41.11 | zauruslover | ok cool |
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| 22:48.16 | zauruslover | kergoth have you moved to TX already ? |
| 22:50.00 | kergoth | nope, moving next week |
| 22:50.35 | zauruslover | cool ! All the best for the new position ! |
| 22:50.43 | kergoth | thanks |
| 22:52.28 | zauruslover | kergoth : is there a doc/web page somewhere which lists how to start installation of experimental OZ on a brand new Japanese C700 ? |
| 22:53.01 | kergoth | you flash it the same way you flash a sharp rom onto the unit |
| 22:53.13 | kergoth | only with less files, only updater.sh, zimage.bin, adn initrd.bin |
| 22:53.23 | kergoth | spacetown site has teh instructions |
| 22:53.28 | zauruslover | cool |
| 22:53.28 | kergoth | i should add an faq with them for now |
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