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| 02:02.32 | hunterkll | hey |
| 02:02.34 | hunterkll | is anyone here? |
| 02:10.21 | pizzathief | I think they're all asleep |
| 02:10.31 | pizzathief | sshh! |
| 02:13.04 | hunterkll | lol |
| 02:13.10 | hunterkll | you good with opie type stuff? |
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| 04:29.51 | ToyKeeper | fcntl.ioctl(open("/dev/fl", "wb").fileno(), 100, light_level) |
| 04:30.19 | ToyKeeper | I can finally turn off my freaking frontlight. :) |
| 05:48.08 | elron | that's python code |
| 05:48.12 | elron | or I'm mistaken |
| 05:51.54 | effy-kun | sounds like C |
| 05:52.02 | effy-kun | but I've never seen Python |
| 05:53.49 | elron | only Python has a system open() function which returns a thingy that has a fileno() method without pointer dereferentiation |
| 05:55.17 | effy-kun | I thought fopen returns a pointer in C |
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| 07:20.05 | dj-submerge | hi folks |
| 07:21.42 | dj-submerge | someone knows how can I use german or french "umlaute" -> äöüèé with openzaurus ? |
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| 11:20.42 | WAnppa | Does gtk-on-framebuffer run on OZ? |
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| 12:28.03 | dj-submerge | someone knows where I can get opie-mpegplayer ? Could it find it on zaurii.com feed index |
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| 13:36.15 | Sanjay | I am having a problem syncing with Windows XP, Can anybody help me ? |
| 13:39.07 | dj-submerge | perhabs.. explain ;) |
| 13:41.20 | Sanjay | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:42.02 | Sanjay | I have set the IP on XP Connection to 192.168.129.202 |
| 13:47.48 | dj-submerge | I'm quit new to Zaurus and I don't use XP .... but try once to set 192.168.129.201 for the zaurus and 192.162.129.1 for your XP workstation. These are the default addresses |
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| 17:56.11 | Fare | what's the right way to turn a C700 into a workstation? |
| 17:59.54 | WAnppa | Umm... shrink your fingers? :) |
| 18:01.45 | damohasi | hehe |
| 18:01.48 | damohasi | hehehehe |
| 18:02.02 | damohasi | Fare: be more specific maybe ;) |
| 18:03.21 | Fare | damohasi: I have just bought a C700 |
| 18:03.38 | Fare | I want to have my usual emacs, ssh, cvs, etc. environment |
| 18:03.46 | Fare | zsh, clisp, bigloo, make, scribe |
| 18:04.03 | damohasi | fare: checked www.killefiz.de/zaurus/ ? |
| 18:04.19 | Fare | I don't care much for QT (I appreciate having a web browser, but it might as well be konqueror or w3m) |
| 18:04.26 | Fare | damohasi: will do. |
| 18:04.34 | damohasi | fare: make a list what you need |
| 18:04.43 | damohasi | check killefiz |
| 18:04.46 | damohasi | if its not there |
| 18:04.50 | damohasi | check debian arm tree |
| 18:04.58 | damohasi | and rip of the files you need |
| 18:05.16 | damohasi | think debian arm binaries should run on c700 |
| 18:05.23 | damohasi | on s5500 they do mostly |
| 18:07.24 | Fare | do you run TCP/IP over USB? |
| 18:07.39 | zap-zero | opera... bah |
| 18:07.47 | zap-zero | ww |
| 18:08.03 | Fare | btw, where is the filesystem/mount structure explained? |
| 18:09.43 | damohasi | Fare: im running tcp/ip over usb or over a cf-eth0 |
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| 18:13.09 | Fare | since I intend to use CF as my debian/cvs/home directory, cf-eth0 is out of the question for me. |
| 18:13.28 | damohasi | Fare: thats why most consider sd as filesystem |
| 18:13.28 | Fare | damohasi: is there a page that describes the usb thing? |
| 18:13.35 | Fare | oh |
| 18:13.56 | damohasi | if have a 128mb sd as filesystem for home and programms |
| 18:14.08 | damohasi | a cf for flashing, and a cf-eth0 |
| 18:14.17 | Fare | well, I bought a CF memory card, so as to share the fs with another arm handheld |
| 18:14.19 | damohasi | and maybe someday a wlan-cf |
| 18:14.26 | damohasi | i see |
| 18:15.15 | damohasi | the usb setup is described on several bulletin boards i think |
| 18:15.19 | Fare | ok |
| 18:15.46 | damohasi | if you use windows as hosting machine its quite easy, under linux you have to recompile some modules probably |
| 18:17.54 | Fare | I don't use windows |
| 18:18.06 | zap-zero | god bless you |
| 18:18.24 | Fare | once in a while, windows uses me, however :( :( :( |
| 18:18.42 | zap-zero | you'll get over it :) |
| 18:21.47 | damohasi | hehe |
| 18:22.08 | damohasi | zap-zero: have you set up tcpip over usb with linux` |
| 18:22.09 | damohasi | ? |
| 18:22.44 | zap-zero | sure |
| 18:22.47 | zap-zero | ages ago |
| 18:22.56 | WAnppa | I'm running usbdnet too. |
| 18:22.58 | zap-zero | modprobe usbnet |
| 18:23.03 | zap-zero | ifconfig usb0 192.168.129.200 netmask 255.255.255.255 up |
| 18:23.03 | zap-zero | route add -host 192.168.129.201 usb0 |
| 18:23.03 | zap-zero | iptables -t nat -F |
| 18:23.03 | zap-zero | iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -j SNAT -o eth0 --to 192.168.0.3 |
| 18:23.03 | zap-zero | echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 18:23.25 | damohasi | hehe |
| 18:23.28 | zap-zero | as described in 100s of howtos |
| 18:23.35 | damohasi | yes |
| 18:23.37 | damohasi | sure |
| 18:26.22 | WAnppa | http://docs.zaurus.com/ |
| 18:30.53 | damohasi | hehe |
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| 19:14.07 | Motoko | hello |
| 19:14.46 | Motoko | quick question: what brightness setting does everyone here prefer most? |
| 19:15.09 | Motoko | I have the back light on my Z set at full and the battery dies pretty quick |
| 19:15.36 | Motoko | last night I took it off the cradle after 2 days |
| 19:15.56 | Motoko | and in about 15 minutes the power was already down to 85% |
| 19:16.18 | Motoko | So I just wanted to know what other people prefer |
| 19:16.36 | damohasi | well if its really bright i switch off backlight |
| 19:16.49 | damohasi | otherwise i use the darkest dim |
| 19:17.04 | Motoko | where I live at it's usually overcast |
| 19:17.45 | damohasi | what does overcast mean? |
| 19:18.01 | Motoko | it's always covered with clouds |
| 19:18.11 | damohasi | i see |
| 19:18.20 | damohasi | s the darkest dim not enough for you? |
| 19:18.31 | Motoko | I think I'll try darkest dim for now and see how I like |
| 19:18.46 | damohasi | afaik ligh uses much power |
| 19:18.46 | Motoko | I just set it to that and it really doesn't look all that bad |
| 19:18.53 | damohasi | have you switched of the irda ? |
| 19:19.14 | Motoko | how do I check ? |
| 19:19.28 | damohasi | sharp rom or oz? |
| 19:19.45 | Motoko | oz |
| 19:20.45 | damohasi | then you should have the irda applet down on the task bar? |
| 19:21.08 | Motoko | I cleared it from the taskbar |
| 19:21.20 | damohasi | then put it in again |
| 19:21.25 | damohasi | just for some secs |
| 19:21.26 | damohasi | ;) |
| 19:21.56 | Motoko | k |
| 19:22.12 | damohasi | is it red or black? |
| 19:22.28 | Motoko | black |
| 19:22.34 | damohasi | ok then it should be off |
| 19:22.41 | Motoko | If I click on it, it gives me an option to enable it |
| 19:22.42 | Motoko | k |
| 19:22.46 | damohasi | yes |
| 19:22.51 | damohasi | you can remove it again |
| 19:22.52 | damohasi | :) |
| 19:23.03 | damohasi | are you using cf or sd? |
| 19:23.05 | Motoko | thanx |
| 19:23.16 | Motoko | I have one of each |
| 19:23.22 | Motoko | but everything is loaded to the SD |
| 19:23.23 | damohasi | both plugged in? |
| 19:23.26 | Motoko | yup |
| 19:23.32 | damohasi | then remove the cf |
| 19:23.38 | damohasi | that uses power |
| 19:23.42 | Motoko | k |
| 19:24.06 | damohasi | maybe try to install the essential apps to ram and remove the sd if you need longer power |
| 19:24.16 | Motoko | k |
| 19:24.31 | damohasi | that should save you a couple of minutes ;) |
| 19:24.42 | Motoko | I formated the SD to EXT2 and used the 64/0 OZ image |
| 19:24.49 | damohasi | i see |
| 19:25.02 | damohasi | if power is essential maybe take a smaller image |
| 19:25.06 | Motoko | and everthing is on the SD except /usr |
| 19:26.09 | Motoko | I'll keep it like it is now and see how it does |
| 19:27.02 | damohasi | ok |
| 19:27.10 | damohasi | and there are external power packs |
| 19:28.10 | Motoko | cool |
| 19:28.16 | Motoko | Well I gotta run |
| 19:28.19 | Motoko | thank you |
| 19:28.22 | damohasi | np |
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| 21:15.57 | Fare | hum |
| 21:16.07 | Fare | is there a nice distro for the Zaurus? |
| 21:16.18 | Fare | that feels like a workstation |
| 21:16.23 | Fare | emacs, ssh, cvs, etc. |
| 21:21.51 | jdh41 | ick. emacs. |
| 21:22.46 | jdh41 | as to is there a distro with this stuff, I imagine OpenZ has some of the stuff, and you can probably compile the rest against it if it'll run |
| 21:23.02 | jdh41 | though you may want an X Server if theres none avalaibel for opie |
| 21:23.22 | jdh41 | (though I'm undoubtley saying the wrong things as I don't know that much) |
| 21:25.15 | Fare | I want a terminal capable of latin1 and/or utf8, some emacs clone, clisp, ssh, cvs, rsync, nfs client & server, make, scribe/bigloo |
| 21:25.28 | Fare | oh, and a web browser |
| 21:25.31 | Fare | then I'm happy |
| 21:26.19 | kergoth`bbl | OZ is a solid base system. any packages that dont exist for OZ you can install the debian/ARM .deb's directly. |
| 21:26.48 | Fare | doesn't the .deb have lots of crud in them? |
| 21:26.56 | Fare | like manpages, /usr/doc, etc. |
| 21:27.02 | kergoth`bbl | yep. |
| 21:27.09 | kergoth`bbl | deal with it. or add them to OZ directly |
| 21:27.09 | Fare | not to talk about the /var/lib/dpkg stuff |
| 21:27.17 | kergoth`bbl | uh |
| 21:27.20 | kergoth`bbl | ipkg installs .debs |
| 21:27.24 | kergoth`bbl | you dont need dpkg at all. |
| 21:27.52 | Fare | what I'd like to do is have a full-fledged NFS-mounted debian ARM installation |
| 21:27.58 | kergoth`bbl | so install one |
| 21:28.04 | Fare | with the essential directories on flash |
| 21:28.07 | damohasi | ipkg installs debs? hey thats new to me :) |
| 21:28.12 | kergoth`bbl | so get off your ass and do it. |
| 21:28.27 | kergoth`bbl | begging in OZ about a completely different distro is rude and off topic. |
| 21:28.42 | kergoth`bbl | once again, you can install any debian/ARM package into OZ |
| 21:28.56 | kergoth`bbl | installing debian/ARM directly gains you nothing, other than the cruft we already took the time to strip out of the packaging |
| 21:29.20 | Fare | when I install a debian package in OZ, does it also install the crud on the flash? |
| 21:29.24 | kergoth`bbl | yes |
| 21:29.29 | kergoth`bbl | for that one package |
| 21:29.32 | kergoth`bbl | instead of all of them |
| 21:29.35 | Fare | hum. |
| 21:30.06 | kergoth`bbl | and you can feel free to add that package to OZ's buildsystem, so you'll have a small clean ipk for it. |
| 21:30.07 | Fare | is there a document that details what is mounted where, and how's the directory structure? |
| 21:30.13 | kergoth`bbl | the faqs cover it in detail |
| 21:30.20 | kergoth`bbl | openzaurus.org exists for a reason |
| 21:32.03 | damohasi | you are right kergoth`bbl, but sometines it just saves some time installing debs directily |
| 21:32.10 | kergoth`bbl | ? |
| 21:32.11 | kergoth`bbl | no shit |
| 21:32.17 | kergoth`bbl | i wonder when i claimed otherwise? |
| 21:33.21 | damohasi | you didnt, just mentioned it wastes space |
| 21:33.22 | damohasi | :) |
| 21:33.31 | damohasi | kergoth`bbl: did you get my private msg? |
| 21:33.48 | Twiun[Zzzzz] | goes to catch some Zzzz's |
| 21:34.34 | kergoth`bbl | damohasi: yes. your wording implies that ipkg not symlinking is a bug, which it isnt. but i agree such an faq should exist. |
| 21:34.43 | kergoth`bbl | k im gone |
| 21:35.36 | damohasi | . |
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| 21:57.48 | alobodig | How well is mpeg playback supposed to work? |
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| 23:44.23 | Fare | hum |
| 23:44.37 | Fare | when I compile usbdnet, it doesn't see the machine :( |
| 23:44.53 | Fare | dmesg says it won't find a driver for said number |
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| 23:56.04 | Fare | anyone here? |
| 23:56.10 | Fare | using usbdnet? |
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| 23:58.07 | alobodig | I'm here, but I'm not using usbdnet |
| 23:58.52 | thomax23 | i like to know how to connect an usb socket on the "craddle" connector directly on the zaurus. |
| 23:59.05 | Fare | thomax23: I'm trying to do that |
| 23:59.13 | Fare | http://www.ruault.com/Zaurus/ethernet-over-usb-howto.html |
| 23:59.19 | thomax23 | can i use the craddle itself? |
| 23:59.51 | Fare | but despite my putting the right thing in linux/.config, I get the error: usb.c: USB device 12 (vend/prod 0x4dd/0x8007) is not claimed by any active driver. |