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| 02:35.21 | Joelw | Anyone know where the current toolchain is kept? http://openzaurus.org/official/toolchain/ only has things under 'old', and the readme refers to newer ones than are there. |
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| 04:08.00 | heatxsink | hello all |
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| 05:24.04 | Marsupilami23 | hi |
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| 08:52.27 | dj-submerge | hi |
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| 09:12.10 | duplexer | hi dj-submerge. |
| 09:12.17 | duplexer | What to see my O face? |
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| 12:44.40 | duplexer | Hi dj-submerge, want to see my O face? |
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| 15:43.09 | madcat` | hey |
| 15:43.58 | wijnand | hi |
| 15:46.08 | madcat` | does the zarius run uClinux, or a full mmu kernel? |
| 15:46.40 | wijnand | zarius heh |
| 15:46.53 | madcat` | opps, sorry |
| 15:47.17 | wijnand | :) |
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| 17:52.51 | mETz | hmm, which version of the hostap drivers is oz 3.2 using? |
| 17:53.33 | mETz | got problems with my wlan card suddenly dying, then I need to restart the whole Z :( |
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| 18:20.19 | mETz | ugh, these hostap modules on oz 3.2 are stoneold :( |
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| 18:22.40 | pHluid | update them. |
| 18:25.54 | mETz | well, how? |
| 18:28.38 | pHluid | Man, they are way out of date. Heh. like 4 versions out. |
| 18:31.38 | mETz | I know that already from my buggy card :) |
| 18:32.25 | mETz | May 26 19:48:57 metztop kernel: wlan0: hfa384x_cmd_issue: cmd reg was busy for 1000 usec |
| 18:32.30 | mETz | and more like these :) |
| 18:32.43 | mETz | The card only works for a few minutes |
| 18:33.00 | pHluid | What kind of card? |
| 18:33.08 | mETz | I'm trying to fix this on my laptop first as I know how to update drivers there :) |
| 18:33.19 | mETz | sandisk 11mbit wlan |
| 18:34.20 | mETz | it works on my laptop under windoze so I'm almost sure it's rather a driver then a hardware problem |
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| 19:14.50 | zap-zero | how to get frees/wan working with z? |
| 19:14.55 | zap-zero | do i need to recompile kernel? |
| 19:15.00 | zap-zero | or just some modules/packages? |
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| 19:25.16 | mETz | woah, this wlan card is either extremely buggy or both the laptop and my Z are broken :) |
| 19:29.04 | zap-zero | and you're sure it's not the drivers that are buggy? |
| 19:30.14 | mETz | I'm not sure about anything :) |
| 19:30.36 | mETz | updated hostap drivers on my laptop to 0.0.3 now |
| 19:30.57 | mETz | If they work I have to find somebody who is able to compile these for OZ 3.2 or something |
| 19:31.31 | mETz | I didn't buy that card for my laptop, it's mainly for the Z and it worked quite well on the sharp rom |
| 19:31.42 | mETz | Too bad the rest of the rom sucked :) |
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| 19:40.19 | zap-zero | so it has a prism chipset? |
| 19:41.48 | mETz | yes |
| 19:41.50 | mETz | prism 2.5 |
| 19:49.03 | djr | the fuller my sd card is, the longer it takes to boot, hehe |
| 19:49.20 | Twiun | djr: to boot, or to start opie? |
| 19:49.23 | djr | boot |
| 19:49.33 | djr | or maybe start opie? whatever it does |
| 19:49.48 | djr | like if you flip the hard reset switch, and then turn it on and it sits at that OZ image |
| 19:50.09 | djr | its been there like 15 minutes so far, hehe |
| 19:50.12 | Twiun | you can't flip the hard reset switch. it's a button inside the battery cover |
| 19:50.24 | djr | er, dur |
| 19:50.32 | djr | i mean if you flip the battery switch |
| 19:50.33 | djr | hehe |
| 19:50.49 | Twiun | right, that's a normal reboot |
| 19:50.52 | djr | yeah |
| 19:51.00 | Twiun | hard reset means something else :) |
| 19:51.04 | djr | yeah, i know |
| 19:51.05 | Twiun | anyway... |
| 19:51.21 | djr | i just got em mixed up just now... ive had a headache for the last 5 days so things are starting to fail in my brain |
| 19:51.36 | Twiun | is the long delay whilst you have the pingizaurus mascott on the screen or when opie starts? |
| 19:51.58 | djr | opie hasnt started yet |
| 19:52.13 | djr | just the mascott and the openzaurus words at the bottom with the red/black background |
| 19:52.31 | Twiun | djr: fsck taking too long then? |
| 19:52.39 | djr | mETz: thats not in the feeds yet =/ |
| 19:52.46 | Twiun | djr: although I didn't realise the cards were checked on every boot |
| 19:52.46 | djr | Twiun: ooh, ill run that |
| 19:52.47 | djr | hehe |
| 19:52.49 | mETz | djr: not in the oz feeds |
| 19:52.56 | djr | Twiun: oh? hmm |
| 19:52.57 | mETz | but there's a feed for it |
| 19:53.11 | djr | mETz: cool |
| 19:54.17 | mETz | http://opie.handhelds.org/feed/openzaurus/0.9.9/ |
| 19:55.38 | mETz | btw, anybody knows how to get usbnet loading on linux when the Z is detected on usb? |
| 19:55.49 | mETz | my hotplug says that modprobe can't find usbnet LOL |
| 19:55.58 | mETz | doing modprobe usbnet manually works fine |
| 20:01.52 | kolla | 0.9.9? wow :) |
| 20:03.02 | pHluid | meh. |
| 20:03.50 | kolla | did anyone do anything to get the new handcom office to work under OZ? |
| 20:04.06 | pHluid | kolla: Wouldn't work for me |
| 20:04.22 | kolla | me neither, it had this new fastexec stuff |
| 20:04.28 | pHluid | Best I've been able to manage with Hancom so far is install the libs, 1.0 of Sheet and Presenter, and 1.4.4 of Word |
| 20:04.54 | mETz | hmm, after 45mins the wlan crap again ticked out |
| 20:04.57 | pHluid | metz: Opie 0.9.9 installed with no probs for you? |
| 20:05.12 | mETz | pHluid: it was a PITA, like everything on a Z :( |
| 20:07.48 | pHluid | What all did you have to do? |
| 20:08.31 | mETz | well, I had to get some network connection to my Z, that's already quite an adventure :) |
| 20:08.54 | wijnand | and here i was thinking handhelds were easier than desktop computers :P |
| 20:08.55 | mETz | and you should not (read: prolly cannot) update opie while running it |
| 20:09.00 | kolla | what's new in 0.9.9? |
| 20:09.02 | pHluid | Obviously. |
| 20:09.03 | mETz | had to ssh in and run ipkg manually |
| 20:09.11 | pHluid | Also. 0.9.9 isn't "final" |
| 20:09.17 | mETz | wijnand: the palm I had was easy to use |
| 20:09.18 | pHluid | it's the feature freeze for 1.0 |
| 20:09.38 | kolla | obviously.. but what's after 0.9.9? 0.9.10? :) |
| 20:09.40 | mETz | it feels way better for me than 0.9.3 that ships with oz 3.2 |
| 20:10.04 | kolla | what's new in it? Documents gone? |
| 20:10.11 | mETz | hmm? no |
| 20:10.11 | pHluid | kolla: I just means it's still unstable |
| 20:10.22 | kolla | mETz: bleh |
| 20:10.25 | pHluid | The Documents tab in the Sharp ROM owns |
| 20:10.27 | pHluid | that would be nice.] |
| 20:10.36 | pHluid | That's about the only thing in the Sharp ROM that owns. ;[ |
| 20:10.43 | kolla | :) |
| 20:10.52 | mETz | I only know that 0.9.9 hasn'tcrashed on me yet, compared to 0.9.3 :) |
| 20:11.02 | pHluid | 0.9.3 crashed on you? heh. |
| 20:11.07 | djr | i forget what im running... but 0.9.3 never crashed on me |
| 20:11.20 | kolla | heh, crashes quite often for me |
| 20:11.22 | mETz | sure it did |
| 20:11.23 | pHluid | wasn't there an opie-update thing? |
| 20:11.30 | pHluid | That updated all the base opie modules... |
| 20:11.35 | djr | i had an uptime of 9 days on mine with 0 crashes... thats including constantly suspending and resuming it, too, rotating, playing games, using things, etc |
| 20:11.57 | kolla | djr: how about inserting and removing filesystems? |
| 20:12.14 | pHluid | kolla: via the cf/sd slots? I've never had any probs |
| 20:12.14 | djr | i only use my sd card and cf wireless card |
| 20:12.15 | kolla | da killer |
| 20:12.28 | kolla | djr: that explains it then :) |
| 20:12.36 | kolla | pHluid: I have.. lots :) |
| 20:12.50 | djr | mETz: why? |
| 20:12.52 | mETz | Linux and wlan don't go well |
| 20:13.09 | mETz | djr: the card is dying after some time |
| 20:13.15 | djr | ah |
| 20:13.17 | kolla | it does, but not prism2 with the new driver |
| 20:13.29 | mETz | both on oz and on my laptop |
| 20:13.48 | mETz | the old drivers from sharp kind of worked |
| 20:13.57 | kolla | the cisco I have on the laptop works fine |
| 20:14.02 | pHluid | kolla: Maybe the difference is medium mounting? I only use it on my CF card slot |
| 20:14.22 | kolla | the old drivers worked fine for me, the new ones ... it's like someone moved the AP 50 meters away |
| 20:15.05 | kolla | pHluid: only CF here as well, the SD is a 256MB system drive here.. early in the startup I have the Z pivot root to the SD |
| 20:15.13 | pHluid | ick |
| 20:16.20 | kolla | the internal flahs is still pure original OZ3.2 :) |
| 20:16.23 | kolla | flash |
| 20:16.31 | pHluid | metz: So you what, set your active feed to the opie feed and did an ipkg update, ipkg upgrade? |
| 20:17.40 | mETz | yes, added another feed in aqpkg and activated it |
| 20:17.59 | mETz | then logged out from opie and ssh'ed into the z and did update+upgrade |
| 20:18.06 | pHluid | nice |
| 20:18.18 | mETz | sometimes ipkg ran into problems, it's terribly buggy too |
| 20:18.36 | mETz | --force-overwrite helped me with that libqte not installing |
| 20:18.59 | kolla | stupid package systems.. they always fail :) |
| 20:19.22 | kolla | linux on pda.. was never meant to be.. |
| 20:19.26 | mETz | dpkg is fine here ;) |
| 20:19.28 | kolla | :) |
| 20:19.54 | wijnand | mETz: how do you install dpkg though? :P |
| 20:20.13 | mETz | not on my Z := |
| 20:21.40 | pHluid | mewh |
| 20:21.44 | pHluid | time for me to leave work |
| 20:21.50 | pHluid | guess opie 0.9.9 will wait till I get home :) |
| 20:22.28 | mETz | gnah, stupid card worked for less than one minute |
| 20:22.39 | mETz | guess I'll get rid of wlan again |
| 20:23.33 | mETz | and now off to bed, this is way too annoying, cables work better :) |
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| 20:51.31 | kolla | hum... my opie still says 0.9.3 in the info window |
| 20:51.39 | kolla | ipkg claims it is 0.9.9 though |
| 20:51.47 | djr | im using opie 0.9.3-snapshot with openzaurus 3.3.1 |
| 20:51.49 | pHluid | Might just be a bug. |
| 20:51.53 | kolla | and ofcourse there is no way to really _tell_ is there |
| 20:52.07 | pHluid | Well |
| 20:52.07 | kolla | "yo library there.. what version are you?" |
| 20:52.16 | pHluid | Compare file sizes? |
| 20:52.21 | kolla | with what? |
| 20:52.26 | pHluid | I've still got 0.9.3 on mine |
| 20:52.41 | pHluid | If you wanted to grab a few file sizes of the binaries or something. |
| 20:53.06 | kolla | even says march 28. |
| 20:53.26 | kolla | on amiga there is this brilliant "version" system |
| 20:53.31 | kolla | version somebinary |
| 20:53.45 | pHluid | How did you update? |
| 20:53.52 | kolla | and the binary will have this magnificent $VER: string in it, followed by a version string |
| 20:53.57 | kolla | ipkg upgrade |
| 20:54.13 | kolla | after a ipkg update with the opie 0.9.9 in the list |
| 20:54.20 | kolla | and no other sources |
| 20:56.32 | kolla | dont think it upgraded anything.. aqpkg still shows old version strings |
| 20:56.59 | kolla | and it still isnt capable of displaying complete description |
| 20:59.43 | pHluid | Are you using the ipkg from unstable? Because I've had probs with updating stuff with that ver before |
| 21:00.44 | kolla | could be |
| 21:00.59 | kolla | anyways.. better find the powersupply before continuing |
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| 22:32.38 | haisam | Help: I have oz and have not been able to communicate with winxp via usb. |
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