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| 00:46.10 | zaurus_lover | hi there ... anyone got a C750 with them now ? |
| 00:47.30 | zaurus_lover | need to check something with the Calendar app ... am I seeing a "Sharp" bug in the Calendar App when you switch views from the Week View to the Month view ... Calendar crashes ... does anyone else see this ? (converted to English using locale.conf method) |
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| 01:17.25 | fdask_Z | hi |
| 01:18.46 | fdask_Z | does opie-mail support pop3? |
| 01:19.09 | fdask_Z | i only saw an imap setting in it |
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| 01:32.01 | fdask_Z | if i'm online on my zaurus, can i use ipk to install from the net instead of using a webbrowser to get the ipks first? |
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| 03:13.42 | Umaro[lappy] | has anyone purchased tkcmail yet? |
| 03:14.36 | Umaro[lappy] | it looks better than opie-mail2, but iunno if it's worth $20 |
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| 03:43.23 | hirsch | If I want to use my sd card for installing programs under OZ 3.2, do I need to reformat it to ext2? |
| 03:43.55 | Umaro[lappy] | uhm |
| 03:44.12 | Umaro[lappy] | you mean just like.. copying packages to the sd card, then putting the sd card in the zaurus and installing said packages? |
| 03:44.32 | hirsch | No, like telling ipkg to install to sd. |
| 03:44.35 | Umaro[lappy] | oh. |
| 03:44.50 | Umaro[lappy] | hmm.. should be ok. |
| 03:45.07 | hirsch | Should be okay with vfat? Or do I need ext2? |
| 03:45.18 | Umaro[lappy] | should be okay with vfat |
| 03:45.33 | hirsch | Cool. I'll try again. |
| 03:45.49 | hirsch | I had semi-unhappy experiences with it before, so I'm reinstalling. |
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| 03:56.32 | pHluid | hirsch |
| 03:56.41 | pHluid | vfat = no symlinks = a lot of stuff won't work |
| 03:56.50 | pHluid | some packages are fine installed to vfat, some aren't. |
| 03:57.21 | pHluid | If it's an SD card, and it's going to be more or less a permanent expansion, you should really just use ext2 |
| 03:58.03 | Umaro[lappy] | I wish i didn't need the backlight on |
| 03:58.17 | Umaro[lappy] | I know it sucks the battery like none other |
| 03:58.17 | pHluid | I barely use it |
| 03:58.34 | Umaro[lappy] | yeah? how? :) |
| 03:58.52 | DaWorm | set it on light/power to none |
| 03:58.56 | pHluid | Don't use it in the dark? :P |
| 03:59.29 | pHluid | i use full backlight on AC, 1st notch on battery, and I usually turn that off if I'm trying to go "extended" with it |
| 03:59.38 | DaWorm | bbl lunch |
| 03:59.40 | pHluid | I don't have much of a problem reading the screen in most light |
| 03:59.59 | Umaro[lappy] | yah, I think I can handle it on 25% |
| 04:20.07 | hirsch | pHluid: Sorry, I zoned out. I'll try again with ext2. |
| 04:20.40 | hirsch | Those were my symptoms exactly--some things never worked, and some did. I never knew which it would be. |
| 04:23.34 | Umaro[lappy] | which dsp device is the pc speaker? dsp1? |
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| 04:40.45 | zaurus_lover | hi are any of the OZ developers working on a port of OZ for the C750 ? |
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| 07:25.08 | Aimio | is 16mb xf card enough 4 opie? |
| 07:25.12 | Aimio | *cf |
| 07:25.38 | wijnand | how do you mean? |
| 07:26.18 | Aimio | a compact flash card is needed for openZaurus right? |
| 07:26.26 | wijnand | to flash it yes |
| 07:26.43 | wijnand | and if flashing is what you want to do then a 16 mb cf card that is completely unused will do |
| 07:26.44 | schurig | Aimio: not to run it |
| 07:27.29 | Aimio | ty |
| 07:27.39 | Aimio | I have a 128 mmc card spare |
| 07:28.09 | wijnand | you can't flash with that though |
| 07:28.37 | Aimio | :( yes |
| 07:28.48 | Aimio | so I'm going to buy one of these -> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2932717575&category=18872 |
| 07:28.51 | wijnand | good thing cf cards are dirt cheap |
| 07:29.23 | Aimio | hopefully "Mass storage class compatible" means linux compatible |
| 07:29.25 | wijnand | depends on what the 16 mb is of |
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| 07:29.39 | wijnand | yeah i have yet to see an unsupported cardreader |
| 07:29.49 | Aimio | oh, 16mb might be built in, not cf |
| 07:30.25 | wijnand | would be odd to have built-in memory in a cardreader though |
| 07:33.01 | wijnand | quote from that page: Because it has built in memory it is also possible to use this as another external drive to hold and transfer data between computers. |
| 07:35.10 | Aimio | it's ok, I've found a better bargin (is that splet roight?) |
| 07:35.36 | wijnand | if you spelled it like `bargain' then yes it it is |
| 07:35.43 | Aimio | :p |
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| 09:06.35 | dj-submerge | hi |
| 09:06.57 | jdh41 | re dj-submerge |
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| 09:11.10 | dj-submerge | jdh41: hmm just killed my zaurus, tried to flash OZ... now I get a SHARP screen and nothing happens :( |
| 09:11.32 | yeiaway | which model ? |
| 09:13.12 | Twiun | the Sharp screen is indicative that at the very least the zImage didn't flash |
| 09:13.26 | jdh41 | dj-submerge: you renamed the zImage to just"zImage", right? |
| 09:13.34 | jdh41 | sounds like you haven't gotten the kenel to falsh |
| 09:14.08 | jdh41 | (fixing this will require something else whcih can read CF) |
| 09:14.51 | dj-submerge | jdh41: ups :) but why it flashed something.. well I suposed that I did something wrong with the zImage... but the Zaurus was my only way to read/write cf. Need to find an external CF reader/writer ;) |
| 09:16.32 | dj-submerge | hmm is it normal that the screen of the zaurus flickers alot ? Had it under 2.38G, 3.10 and OZ3.2 |
| 09:17.16 | Twiun | no, never had a flicker - what Z model do you have? |
| 09:17.37 | dj-submerge | SL-5500G, it most flicker on the scrollbar |
| 09:18.07 | jdh41 | at least not that he noticed |
| 09:19.30 | dj-submerge | should I bring it back ?.. just received it 10days ago |
| 09:21.23 | jdh41 | possibly after reflashing to the Sharp ROM, they may jsut blame the software otherwise |
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| 09:27.26 | dj-submerge | jdh41: sure .. ;) |
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| 12:32.30 | mETz | hmm, no dhcpclient starting when I bring up my wlan0 device :( |
| 12:49.19 | alobodig | My wlan card works fine |
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| 13:04.16 | natty | Hey all. Question: In OZ 3.2 is there an easy way to change the kernel arguments? I can't find any kind of bootloader configuration file |
| 13:06.01 | mETz | I think OZ uses the bootloader from sharp rom, it's not overwritten |
| 13:06.16 | natty | it must do something funny though to print it's splash screen |
| 13:06.26 | natty | before init is even called |
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| 13:07.24 | Zxcvb | is there a basic mp3/ogg only player for openzaurus? |
| 13:07.51 | elron | natty: you could try D+P+Hard reset instead of C+D |
| 13:07.56 | elron | it gives a diagnostic menu |
| 13:08.06 | elron | there may be bootloader options from there |
| 13:08.42 | natty | hrm |
| 13:09.03 | natty | I just want to set console=/dev/tty0 so I can see all the output :/ |
| 13:09.14 | elron | hmm |
| 13:09.22 | elron | there is a VERBOSE variable that you cans et somewhere |
| 13:09.40 | elron | most bootup script print their output if it is set |
| 13:09.44 | natty | I know it can be done, the first time I played with a Z in Staples, it printed all the normal kernel/init stuff when it booted |
| 13:09.46 | elron | you should look around in /etc/init.d |
| 13:09.49 | natty | so I assume OZ does something different |
| 13:09.53 | elron | oh ! |
| 13:09.56 | elron | I see what you mean |
| 13:10.04 | elron | use the "debug" kernel version on the web site |
| 13:10.07 | natty | ah |
| 13:10.09 | natty | tnx |
| 13:10.13 | elron | it has the option to oiutput all messages to the console |
| 13:10.20 | natty | uhm, can I replace the kernel without "flashing" it again? |
| 13:10.48 | elron | well |
| 13:11.00 | natty | it doesn't seem to live in a normal file |
| 13:11.02 | elron | actually... no, but you can setup a CF card with only a kernel on it |
| 13:11.10 | elron | it won't touch the filesystem part |
| 13:11.24 | natty | and that will overwrite the kernel without overwriting my filesystem? I can handle that |
| 13:11.44 | elron | it should |
| 13:12.05 | natty | heh |
| 13:12.13 | natty | well there's nothing really important on this yet, I'm just hacking around |
| 13:12.27 | natty | getting all my linux buddies excited when they see it |
| 13:13.18 | yeiaway | eheh :) |
| 13:13.24 | Zxcvb | anyone try the new scummvm yet? |
| 13:13.32 | yeiaway | new ? |
| 13:19.26 | natty | Yeah |
| 13:19.59 | natty | I can't really figure it out though, the ctrl-key shortcuts don |
| 13:20.04 | natty | 't seem to work and music doesn't work |
| 13:20.27 | natty | so I can start playing but I can't seem to save or load games or quit |
| 13:21.30 | Zxcvb | yeiaway: 0.4.1 on the zaurus |
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| 13:22.22 | yeiaway | I should try it... I've used scummvm weeks ago |
| 13:28.36 | Zxcvb | finally, a new fce ultra |
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| 13:37.11 | mithro | blah! bloody debian install-info |
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| 16:06.53 | Zxcvb | is the sharp 3.10 email client available for OZ? |
| 16:07.15 | mETz | I'd like to try out that opera :) |
| 16:07.41 | Zxcvb | opera is available, though java does not work (new jeode won't work in OZ 3.2) |
| 16:07.48 | mETz | hmm, where? |
| 16:07.52 | Zxcvb | and no, opera 6.0 can't just use the old jeode |
| 16:07.54 | Zxcvb | killefiz.de |
| 16:07.57 | Zxcvb | opera 6.0 ripper |
| 16:08.03 | mETz | well, you have to rip it |
| 16:08.15 | mETz | unfortunately my kernel had no cramfs support so far |
| 16:08.16 | Zxcvb | get the Ospack, and be sure to have cramfs in your kernel |
| 16:08.23 | Zxcvb | so make cramfs as a module |
| 16:14.19 | mETz | http://me.256k.net/zaurus/Operacreator/ <- that one? |
| 16:15.14 | mETz | at least that's the only one I know of :) |
| 16:15.25 | Zxcvb | yes |
| 16:15.29 | Zxcvb | the one for linux desktops |
| 16:15.36 | Zxcvb | there are two opera 6.0 creators on that site |
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| 16:17.13 | Zxcvb | where do I get libstdc? |
| 16:19.39 | mETz | hmm, no cramfs support here |
| 16:19.47 | mETz | Either I find it to download or I'll forget about it |
| 16:19.56 | hardwire | download cramfs? |
| 16:19.57 | mETz | I won't touch my kernel anymore, I'm so happy it's stable right now |
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| 20:54.17 | gecko_x2 | friday evening all |
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| 20:55.43 | gecko_x2 | tonight, i swear i will make a gprs connection over bluetooth :) |
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| 21:03.48 | hardwire | loco el whacko! |
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| 21:18.35 | kolla | evening? |
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| 21:30.03 | pyromance | Anyone awake? |
| 21:30.27 | pyromance | Hrm. |
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| 21:34.54 | gecko_x2 | i'm awake.. |
| 21:35.00 | gecko_x2 | hello |
| 21:35.28 | gecko_x2 | trying to figure out why my CF card won't resume when OZ 3.2 resumes.. |
| 21:35.47 | gecko_x2 | how could i check the version of apmd in OZ 3.2? |
| 21:36.29 | kolla | ipkg info apm |
| 21:36.30 | kolla | ? |
| 21:36.37 | gecko_x2 | thx :) |
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| 21:36.48 | gecko_x2 | i'm kindof a newbie ;) |
| 21:37.10 | gecko_x2 | yup that did it thx.. |
| 21:37.13 | kolla | use the package maintainer program in the prefs tab, select "installed packages" |
| 21:37.17 | kolla | ok, cool :) |
| 21:37.21 | james_lan | what kind of card? |
| 21:38.10 | gecko_x2 | socketcom bluetooth revision G |
| 21:38.56 | james_lan | I know sometimes on this laptop, I have to restart it (could be the drivers (atmelwlandrivers)) |
| 21:39.24 | gecko_x2 | i se that the OZ 3.2 version is 3.2.0-3, and the unstable and testing feeds have a 3.2.0-8 version.. |
| 21:39.48 | gecko_x2 | maybe i should try that.. |
| 21:40.10 | gecko_x2 | anyone else have CF card resuming problems? |
| 21:40.41 | james_lan | check about PCMCIA resume as well if you are looking on the internet, because it's the same thing. |
| 21:41.23 | gecko_x2 | yea.. |
| 21:41.41 | gecko_x2 | could some1 with OZ 3.2 give the file listing for /etc/apm/resume.d? |
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| 23:10.17 | jsr | Hello all. Is OZ currently having issues with SD memory cards? |
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| 23:13.21 | jsr | ? |
| 23:20.13 | kolla | not really no |
| 23:20.18 | kolla | not for me at least |
| 23:20.31 | jsr | i've got sandisk sd 128mb |
| 23:20.37 | jsr | works fine under sharp v3.10 |
| 23:21.07 | jsr | ... |
| 23:24.24 | jsr | what card do u hav? |
| 23:24.32 | gecko_x2 | any new rumours on 2.4.19? |
| 23:26.00 | ljp_laptop | ya, rumour is that it will automagically dialout and order ice cream at 1 p.m. |
| 23:26.54 | pb_ | I heard it would lace your icecream with arsenic though. |
| 23:32.00 | ljp_laptop | hmmm. I must have missed that |
| 23:32.36 | pb_ | Maybe someone was feeding me bad info. |
| 23:33.23 | gecko_x2 | u guess any answer is nicer than none at all ;D |
| 23:33.52 | gecko_x2 | i not u |
| 23:34.07 | ljp_laptop | :D |
| 23:34.39 | ljp_laptop | another rumour about 2.4.19 is that it was rewritten in c++ |
| 23:35.10 | ljp_laptop | Linus decided that C++ was actually better |
| 23:35.14 | kolla | lol |
| 23:35.27 | kolla | just so that it takes at least twice as long to compile? :) |
| 23:35.43 | ljp_laptop | yes, but now it has class! |
| 23:36.05 | kolla | port it to java :) |
| 23:36.11 | kolla | run linux on JVM:) |
| 23:36.22 | ljp_laptop | oh, thats not till 2.6 |
| 23:36.46 | ljp_laptop | I believe java and c# ports are planned |
| 23:37.41 | kolla | vmlinuz.pl |
| 23:38.05 | kolla | linux interpreted in perl |
| 23:38.21 | kolla | -r |
| 23:38.46 | ljp_laptop | I cant wait for the vb kernel, so linux can have virus' also |
| 23:39.12 | cleverdra | oh *boy*, linux viruses! |
| 23:39.13 | gecko_x2 | *sigh*.. any affix 2.x users around? |
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