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00:11.35 | treke | who hear wants to buy kergoth a tv card? |
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00:28.20 | Thelonius | if he gives me a usb2 one, then i will :P |
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01:13.14 | treke | you cheap bastards |
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01:56.10 | wardriver | i have a makefile that i would like to compile... i installed gcc but still no make command... what do i need? |
01:59.21 | kergoth | you need make |
02:00.14 | wardriver | i thought make was supposed to come with the compiler |
02:01.45 | wardriver | thanks |
02:02.40 | kergoth | likely in a seperate package |
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03:58.18 | wardriver | anyone here using the wlan-ng drivers? |
04:01.27 | mewyn | i use what OZ has me use |
04:06.10 | wardriver | host_ap |
04:06.33 | mewyn | ok, then that's what i use |
04:07.58 | mewyn | can you use that host_ap stuff to make your card work like an access point? |
04:09.22 | wardriver | i read some stuff on that, the name, host_ap tends to lend that subject as possible |
04:09.40 | wardriver | but it is the with the wlan-ng drivers that you can change your mac... i think |
04:10.27 | mewyn | i'd like to make a portable AP/NAS |
04:10.43 | kergoth | you need the hostap userspace tools |
04:10.48 | kergoth | but then yes you can make it an AP |
04:10.54 | mewyn | cool |
04:11.43 | mewyn | now all i need is a low powered mobo with 2 pc card slots and ide :) |
04:12.08 | wardriver | how can i change my mac addr? i've changed it with ifconfig and iwpriv but i haven't found out how to reinitialze the card to accept the new mac |
04:13.41 | wardriver | http://trekweb.com/~jasonb/articles/hostap_20021012.shtml a howto to set up an ap with host_ap |
04:35.06 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
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06:09.46 | fdask | whats it mean in AQPkg when a package name has a blue dot with a small star in the corner beside it? |
06:09.55 | fdask | i know the blue dot usually means 'installed' or whatever... but whats this star |
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07:12.06 | Twiun | fdask: I think the small star means there's a newer version available - double tap on the package name to see |
07:27.08 | fdask | hrmm |
07:27.33 | fdask | i installed it from the ipk i had on cf tho, and i'm not online. |
07:27.41 | fdask | weird how it would know theres a newer version |
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09:24.24 | DrBoB | hiya thomax |
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09:47.54 | fdask | what does the opie-sshkeys package do? |
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11:05.46 | fdask | how come when i try to run vmemo, i always get /dev/dsp device or resource busy? |
11:05.52 | fdask | how can i determine what is using the file? |
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11:08.57 | jaku | hi! |
11:09.50 | fdask | hi jaku |
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12:56.38 | chouimat | morning |
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13:50.10 | jaku | is it possible to have a cursor like a mouse in Z? or.. only like tab? |
13:52.25 | wijnand | never seen an arrow cursor... did you check the zsi? |
13:56.02 | jaku | wijnand: zsi? |
13:56.38 | wijnand | http://killefiz.de/zaurus/ |
14:08.42 | jaku | wijnand: probably is possible only with picoGui |
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14:10.29 | natty | So I'm tryin to install an ipk I got, but when I try to "open in packages" using the file manager, packages launches but doesn't show my ipk |
14:10.46 | natty | is there anyway to make the command line package utils create the symbolic links like oipackage does |
14:13.43 | natty | actually file manager is trying to open it in aqpackage |
14:14.06 | Thelonius | i think i have just made myself a pocket paper weight, due to something screwing up during the installation of the bootloader |
14:15.34 | wijnand | my sincere condoleances |
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15:08.20 | jgiles | Hello. Does anyone know where I can get the libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so3 file for my Z running 3.2 ? |
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15:14.45 | jgiles | Hello. Does anyone know where I can get the libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so3 file for my Z running 3.2 ? |
15:14.54 | treke | you just asked that |
15:15.08 | jgiles | I know.. I didnt get a responce, so I though I would try again |
15:16.06 | jgiles | But, you just saved me from doing it again. Obviously no one here knows the answer, so I will send to the e-mail list... |
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15:17.20 | hardwire | anybody snagged one of those siemens simpads yet? |
15:17.27 | treke | hardwire: yes |
15:17.32 | treke | hardwire: OE boots on it |
15:17.35 | hardwire | ooooh |
15:17.41 | hardwire | I think I might want one now |
15:17.49 | hardwire | make a good reader. |
15:17.57 | hardwire | is it light.. easuly snuggleable? |
15:18.10 | treke | hardwire: http://opensimpad.org/ |
15:18.14 | treke | hardwire: dunno. dont have one |
15:18.25 | hardwire | ah |
15:18.28 | hardwire | who does? |
15:18.51 | treke | hardwire: killefiz, cmartin, and mickeyl have them |
15:19.52 | hardwire | HAH |
15:19.57 | hardwire | you can PXE boot the mofo? |
15:20.04 | hardwire | yeah.. I will be getting one |
15:20.13 | hardwire | its in the specs |
15:21.06 | treke | hardwire: http://opensimpad.org/typo3temp/9ab9dcbe20.png |
15:21.34 | hardwire | those screenshotsstay that size eh |
15:21.45 | hardwire | microscreenshot |
15:22.04 | treke | micro screen shot? its 800x699 |
15:22.06 | treke | 600 |
15:22.10 | hardwire | no its not |
15:22.17 | treke | eh |
15:22.21 | treke | oops thats the thumbnail |
15:22.28 | treke | http://opensimpad.org/uploads/pics/sc_19.13.37_Wed_31_Dec_1969.png |
15:22.33 | hardwire | danke |
15:22.54 | hardwire | heheh.. aww |
15:23.00 | hardwire | I want one damnit |
15:23.45 | hardwire | wow |
15:23.47 | hardwire | $650.00 |
15:23.48 | hardwire | hah |
15:33.19 | hardwire | the SLC model is the top of the line one? |
15:34.30 | hardwire | # |
15:34.31 | treke | #openembedded and ask someone who knows |
15:35.12 | hardwire | treke: are you joyfully hinting.. or snibbily assuming my ESP for the most part doesn't work |
15:35.33 | hardwire | #openzaurus/openembedded.. I have been thinking they are the same thing for quite a long time ;) |
15:35.40 | treke | I forgot, subtly doesnt work with hardwire |
15:35.50 | treke | hardwire: move your ass into #openembedded now! |
15:35.54 | hardwire | ooh |
15:36.48 | hardwire | its not subtly I have issues with. |
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15:51.42 | hardwire | is being subtle effecient or necissary in most cases? |
15:52.06 | treke | no, but it's fun |
15:54.58 | hardwire | treke: not really. I could be subtle all I want.. and have no fun now that people thing I am an aroggant ass. |
16:03.21 | kergoth | hardwire: you arent? :) |
16:03.25 | Thelonius | lol |
16:04.03 | hardwire | kergoth: not in any smooth squave debonair ways. ;) |
16:04.20 | hardwire | like.. I don't shake my glass in a subtle way.. to get my biznatch to refill it.. |
16:04.35 | kergoth | gotcah |
16:04.39 | kergoth | gotcha rather |
16:04.40 | hardwire | instead I yell and scream and throw tantrums stating exactly what I want! |
16:04.48 | kergoth | i'm no good at subtlety either, as any OZ user could attest |
16:04.54 | hardwire | heh |
16:05.02 | kergoth | "you did WHAT?" |
16:05.02 | kergoth | heh |
16:05.06 | hardwire | and I don't wonder why people don't know what I am about to tell them. |
16:05.23 | hardwire | that was a subtlety right there. |
16:05.55 | kergoth | heh. |
16:06.28 | treke | hehe |
16:07.01 | hardwire | hmm |
16:07.03 | hardwire | hehe |
16:07.20 | hardwire | ok.. so last time I was up in alaska.. we hired this seattle goon to work with the .com'ers we are all sorta working with |
16:07.25 | hardwire | they manage a website under the compaany |
16:07.30 | hardwire | anyhoot.. she is.. bewildering. |
16:07.43 | hardwire | ancient.. and directly subtle |
16:08.01 | hardwire | she will ask you a question that makes no sense.. and as you are thinking about it she will stare.. |
16:08.12 | hardwire | then.. you find yourself staring back as if "What the fuck is this woman thinking?" |
16:08.23 | hardwire | then she will voice.. "I am looking at you" |
16:08.30 | hardwire | well no shit.. |
16:08.32 | kergoth | haha |
16:08.36 | kergoth | good thing she told you! |
16:08.40 | hardwire | yeah |
16:08.46 | hardwire | I wou;dn't have known. |
16:08.54 | hardwire | anyways .. she was harassing poor ToyKeeper a lot |
16:09.00 | hardwire | glad I wasn't working with that woman |
16:09.17 | hardwire | but man.. she was the weirdest. |
16:09.27 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
16:09.52 | hardwire | she is a contradiction to english and conversation alltogether.. which is a hard thing to fuck up if you are a writer.. like she is. |
16:10.03 | hardwire | I don't think I wanna pick up any of her books anytime soon. |
16:10.37 | kergoth | *open chapter one* "I'm writing to you!" |
16:10.51 | Thelonius | hardwire, hire me then |
16:10.54 | Thelonius | ii need the money |
16:11.08 | hardwire | heh |
16:11.22 | hardwire | I don't think thats within my power or immediate need ATM> |
16:11.35 | hardwire | that and I am uh.. shampooing my hair tonight.. yeah ;) |
16:12.17 | Thelonius | hah |
16:12.22 | Thelonius | GIMME MONEY!!! |
16:12.36 | Thelonius | forget the work portion, i just love the dough |
16:12.39 | Thelonius | more than you know |
16:12.50 | hardwire | yo yo yo |
16:16.40 | hardwire | yay |
16:16.44 | hardwire | only -148 in checking |
16:16.51 | hardwire | thats a lot less than I thought it would be |
16:18.05 | hardwire | hmm |
16:18.16 | hardwire | Thelonius: now I have California love stuck in my head. |
16:18.28 | hardwire | I dunno why.. but you did it. |
16:21.12 | Thelonius | hahahah |
16:21.28 | Thelonius | now you owe me royalties for suggesting songs |
16:21.43 | hardwire | you braindead inchworm.. I will do nothing of the sort. |
16:22.10 | hardwire | turn on your opera and pacify yourself for a while.. ;) |
16:22.46 | Thelonius | i will smash you maggot |
16:22.51 | Thelonius | give me money |
16:22.54 | Thelonius | or i will take it |
16:22.56 | Thelonius | >=) |
16:23.12 | hardwire | woop woop woop woop |
16:23.38 | hardwire | inchworm vs maggot.. more at 11! |
16:24.14 | hardwire | so.. are there any crazy countries out there where they have a music channel.. that plays music.. |
16:24.47 | Thelonius | hah |
16:24.50 | Thelonius | stop braggging |
16:24.51 | hardwire | but there are no boobs on XM.. or rapsta ganstas yo |
16:25.31 | Thelonius | i hope to get hold of those xm radio pcmcia card |
16:25.31 | Thelonius | s |
16:25.41 | hardwire | that would be instantly groovy |
16:25.42 | kergoth | hardwire: good point |
16:25.50 | hardwire | either way |
16:25.52 | hardwire | xm sounds fun |
16:26.02 | Thelonius | kergoth, how much does it cost? |
16:26.09 | hardwire | more than a dollar? |
16:30.07 | cyn | it's like 10/mo isn't it |
16:30.09 | kergoth | like $10 a month or something |
16:30.10 | kergoth | yeah |
16:30.16 | kergoth | good techno stations |
16:30.19 | cyn | the main market for xm radio |
16:30.20 | cyn | WOOoooo |
16:30.25 | cyn | ok I just got added to the main market |
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16:30.28 | cyn | but the main market for xm |
16:30.31 | cyn | is truckers |
16:30.33 | cyn | seriously |
16:30.33 | kergoth | yeah |
16:30.35 | kergoth | definately |
16:30.38 | cyn | over the road guys |
16:30.52 | cyn | 10 bucks a month and they don't have to fiddle with the knob and get great sound |
16:31.01 | cyn | man, you know how many truckers there are |
16:31.03 | cyn | shit, xm is set |
16:31.11 | cyn | it's like selling toilet paper |
16:31.15 | cyn | it's gunna sell. |
16:31.22 | kergoth | yup |
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16:46.06 | NetNut404_Work | anyone have problems with opie alarm not alerting when suspended? I tried the patched binary, and it worked for like a day |
16:47.21 | NetNut404_Work | now it's back to the same behavior. |
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18:12.03 | tru | who was it that built unofficial c700 images? |
18:12.24 | kergoth | the unofficial/experimental? i did |
18:16.00 | tru | hm. I think I got one from someone else, with opie 0.9.9 and working arrowkeys. |
18:16.20 | kergoth | arrowkeys i fixed 2 days after that old image |
18:16.25 | kergoth | guess someone did a more recent build :) |
18:17.35 | tru | yeah, problem is that I couldnt install extra software later :) so I tried to build the whole thing myself but I think the buildsystem won over me :) |
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19:26.29 | jacopo | I installed HancomSheet.. but it open and colose in 1 second every time... don't know why? |
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19:28.39 | jacopo | it appens also with other programs... |
19:29.23 | Twiun | which hancomsheet? |
19:29.30 | Twiun | the one that comes with Sharp ROM 3.10? |
19:29.37 | jacopo | the original from the site |
19:30.12 | jacopo | hancomsheet-en_1.0.1_arm.ipk |
19:30.31 | Twiun | 'original' and 'the site' aren't really that descriptive ;) |
19:30.43 | Twiun | ok, that package name helps a _little_ |
19:31.18 | Twiun | but I can't tell if that's what Sharp bundled with their pre 3.10 roms or the latest one |
19:31.31 | Twiun | if it's the latest one, afaik Sharp broke some things |
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19:36.09 | jacopo | Twiun: ok tks |
19:39.55 | NetNut404_Work | so who can tell me why oz 3.2 won't resume for a alarm even after the patched binary at http://www.gingerbear.org/zaurus/ |
19:41.04 | kergoth | after resume, run a ps -ef. do you see any zombie opiealarm processes? |
19:44.59 | NetNut404_Work | no I don't |
19:45.15 | NetNut404_Work | when I resume I get the alarm going off |
19:45.19 | kergoth | okay, and does the alarm appear after you manually wake up? |
19:45.21 | kergoth | okay, good |
19:45.29 | NetNut404_Work | but only if I resume at the right time |
19:45.57 | NetNut404_Work | it worked right after I replaced the binary |
19:46.00 | NetNut404_Work | for like a day |
19:46.12 | NetNut404_Work | then it went back to doing the same thing |
19:46.42 | NetNut404_Work | could the date showing in UTC on the command prompt with the date command have anything to do with it? |
19:47.46 | NetNut404_Work | it's driving me absolutely crazy.. I have other things to try to get to work.. but this is basic functionality at this point |
19:49.16 | NetNut404_Work | recommendations? things to try I have this same problem happening on 3 different zaurus's and I gotta get it working |
19:50.18 | kergoth | hold, phone call |
19:53.20 | cyn | the time being in utc could cause it to be trying to go off at a different time |
19:54.31 | NetNut404_Work | that' |
19:54.37 | NetNut404_Work | s what I thought |
19:54.55 | NetNut404_Work | it's only in utc on the konsole |
19:54.57 | cyn | can't say for sure, but if somehow one's seeing one time and the other's seeing another that could definitely cause probs |
19:55.09 | NetNut404_Work | EXACTLY |
19:55.15 | cyn | that page you got the patched binary from |
19:55.18 | cyn | did it mention a file |
19:55.25 | cyn | it writes the time of the next alarm to a file |
19:55.35 | NetNut404_Work | yeah resumeat |
19:55.35 | cyn | you can check the contents of that file to get an idea of whats goin on |
19:55.42 | NetNut404_Work | I have |
19:55.46 | cyn | and they are |
19:56.35 | NetNut404_Work | <PROTECTED> |
19:56.36 | NetNut404_Work | 1055901300 |
19:56.59 | NetNut404_Work | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11 Jun 17 19:16 /var/run/resumeat |
19:57.20 | NetNut404_Work | it updates that file after resume it looks like |
19:58.01 | NetNut404_Work | and then the alarm will go off if I happen to resume iy myself at the right time |
19:58.05 | cyn | ok type "date +%s" in konsole |
19:58.28 | NetNut404_Work | Tue Jun 17 19:58:46 UTC 2003 |
19:58.32 | cyn | er |
19:58.39 | cyn | that's the output of date +%s? |
19:58.41 | NetNut404_Work | oops fergot %s |
19:58.52 | NetNut404_Work | what's %s do anyway? |
19:59.01 | cyn | puts it in the format we need |
19:59.06 | cyn | seconds since 1/11970 |
19:59.10 | cyn | 1/1/1970 |
19:59.11 | kergoth | probably converts it back to the 'number of seconds since the epoch' |
19:59.12 | kergoth | yeah, that |
19:59.13 | NetNut404_Work | it says invalid format |
19:59.13 | kergoth | heh |
19:59.19 | cyn | +%s |
19:59.22 | cyn | literally have the + there |
19:59.28 | cyn | "date +%s" |
19:59.34 | NetNut404_Work | oops |
19:59.41 | cyn | sokay :) |
19:59.57 | NetNut404_Work | 1055880022 |
20:00.32 | cyn | so just shy of 6 hours until your alarm goes off |
20:00.51 | cyn | I take it it was supposed to go off a few mins ago |
20:01.17 | NetNut404_Work | yeah I can run another test bu I think it's because the UTC on the konsole |
20:01.27 | kergoth | that date +%s is in konsole, not Console? |
20:01.29 | kergoth | that is, within opie? |
20:01.36 | kergoth | if so, run set|grep TZ |
20:02.05 | NetNut404_Work | oh |
20:02.11 | NetNut404_Work | I did in a ssh window |
20:02.20 | kergoth | thats completely different. |
20:02.31 | kergoth | TZ wont be set in that environment, and opie doesnt touch localtime |
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20:02.53 | cyn | well, in any case, the format in that file is valid |
20:02.54 | NetNut404_Work | it lists 1055880184 on the konsole |
20:03.06 | cyn | they match |
20:03.14 | kergoth | set|grep TZ |
20:03.21 | cyn | so htf did one get tied to one timezone and the other another |
20:03.43 | cyn | nah, this just has to be a display issue that's confusin us |
20:03.52 | cyn | otherwise alarm wouldn't go off when ya turn it on |
20:03.56 | NetNut404_Work | no TZ set |
20:04.02 | NetNut404_Work | where do you set that? |
20:04.06 | kergoth | opie's launcher sets TZ as soon as it starts. |
20:04.11 | NetNut404_Work | hmmmm |
20:04.12 | kergoth | in the initialization c code |
20:04.18 | cyn | well |
20:04.22 | cyn | hold on a sec |
20:04.25 | NetNut404_Work | then why does konsole not know it |
20:04.30 | cyn | NetNut404_Work: "export TZ" "set | grep TZ" |
20:04.43 | kergoth | wont help, export doesnt help him at that level |
20:04.52 | kergoth | if it wasnt exported, its already too late |
20:04.57 | cyn | my .bash_profile hides some things |
20:05.21 | cyn | ahhhh set shows them all |
20:05.22 | kergoth | yes, and your login shell loads that file to set the vars |
20:05.24 | cyn | env hides some things then |
20:05.25 | kergoth | yes |
20:05.47 | NetNut404_Work | lol |
20:05.49 | kergoth | a var is always set in the current shell. export defines whether or not it gets included in the env of further binaries you spawn |
20:05.55 | kergoth | not the behavior of the current shell |
20:06.04 | NetNut404_Work | so where should I set TZ then since it isn't knowing it? |
20:06.29 | kergoth | NetNut404_Work: go into the date/time app |
20:06.36 | kergoth | NetNut404_Work: set the timezone |
20:06.37 | kergoth | NetNut404_Work: hit ok |
20:06.45 | kergoth | NetNut404_Work: then check locale.conf in ~/Settings |
20:06.52 | kergoth | NetNut404_Work: confirm the Timezone field is set |
20:06.58 | NetNut404_Work | k |
20:07.10 | kergoth | heh, n m |
20:07.14 | kergoth | it sets it regardless |
20:07.16 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
20:07.16 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
20:07.16 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
20:07.16 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
20:07.18 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
20:07.20 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
20:07.23 | kergoth | ^^ |
20:07.34 | cyn | so just opening and closing the date/time app should do it |
20:07.40 | kergoth | less, starting opie |
20:07.46 | cyn | ! |
20:07.48 | kergoth | will cause the launcher to default to new york and save it for later |
20:07.48 | cyn | so htf isn't it |
20:07.49 | cyn | heh |
20:07.54 | kergoth | heh |
20:07.58 | NetNut404_Work | hmm where is that.. maybe I should change it to PST in there lol |
20:08.07 | kergoth | NetNut404_Work: cat ~/Settings/locale.conf |
20:09.53 | kergoth | NetNut404_Work: thats main.cpp in core/launcher/ |
20:09.53 | kergoth | heh |
20:09.53 | kergoth | to answer your question |
20:09.53 | NetNut404_Work | setting time |
20:09.57 | NetNut404_Work | [Language] |
20:09.57 | NetNut404_Work | [Location] |
20:09.57 | NetNut404_Work | Timezone = America/Los_Angeles |
20:10.27 | NetNut404_Work | yet still TZ is not set |
20:10.44 | kergoth | terminate opie and start it again, then check TZ again. |
20:10.52 | NetNut404_Work | just rebooted |
20:10.54 | kergoth | are you checking this from a konsole started *within* opie's launcher |
20:10.55 | kergoth | right? |
20:11.01 | NetNut404_Work | that's why it took so long |
20:11.03 | kergoth | not by typing 'konsole' in yoru ssh session |
20:11.07 | kergoth | it *must* be started by the launcher. |
20:11.45 | NetNut404_Work | oh |
20:11.47 | kergoth | heh |
20:11.48 | NetNut404_Work | ok it's there |
20:11.49 | kergoth | PEBKAC |
20:12.00 | NetNut404_Work | ? |
20:12.03 | ljp_laptop | ? |
20:12.26 | kergoth | problem exists between keyboard and chair. |
20:12.32 | treke | Problem Exists Between Keyboard and Chair |
20:12.36 | kergoth | so TZ is set, now what does date +%s output? |
20:12.37 | NetNut404_Work | lol |
20:12.48 | NetNut404_Work | so back to the problem... |
20:12.54 | treke | kergoth: opie doesnt set TZ afaik |
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20:13.07 | kergoth | cyn: and people wonder why we dont do support in #openembedded. talk about polluting the chan :P |
20:13.11 | kergoth | treke: yeah it does |
20:13.24 | kergoth | treke: it should be changed to alter localtime link.. cause right now it doesnt play nice |
20:13.24 | ljp_laptop | YGAYSA |
20:13.29 | kergoth | ljp_laptop: i dont want to know |
20:13.35 | treke | ljp_laptop: STFU |
20:13.37 | NetNut404_Work | lol |
20:13.54 | NetNut404_Work | AAAANNNYYYWAAAAYY |
20:14.00 | ljp_laptop | MWSATLTN |
20:14.16 | ljp_laptop | H!TIKOF |
20:14.24 | NetNut404_Work | so what's the deal with the resume not happing on it's own then? |
20:14.52 | kergoth | NetNut404_Work: once again, date +%s |
20:15.04 | kergoth | lets see what it says now |
20:15.34 | NetNut404_Work | already told you that |
20:15.45 | kergoth | no, you didnt. |
20:15.51 | kergoth | not within the shell that has your damn tz set |
20:16.00 | NetNut404_Work | 1055880945 |
20:16.02 | kergoth | its a little hard to debug your problem if you dont follow instructions |
20:16.19 | kergoth | lets see, what other possibilities. |
20:16.23 | NetNut404_Work | I answered that after you told me to do from the konsole |
20:16.25 | kergoth | does /dev/rtc exist? |
20:16.36 | kergoth | NetNut404_Work: yes, you ran it from your messed up konsole that didnt have TZ set |
20:16.39 | kergoth | NetNut404_Work: which is worthless. |
20:16.47 | kergoth | anyway, next. |
20:17.01 | ljp_laptop | HTTH? |
20:17.12 | kergoth | ljp_laptop: KISSMYASS |
20:17.17 | ljp_laptop | :) |
20:17.29 | treke | ljp_laptop: GTHAD |
20:17.55 | NetNut404_Work | yeah it's there |
20:18.26 | NetNut404_Work | crw-r----- 1 root root 10, 135 Jun 17 20:07 /dev/rtc |
20:19.19 | NetNut404_Work | actually 13:07 from konsole.. |
20:20.16 | treke | NetNut404_Work: cat /dev/rtc |
20:21.35 | NetNut404_Work | never returns |
20:21.43 | treke | good |
20:22.10 | NetNut404_Work | I could vi the file but it looks empty.. (obviously no save |
20:24.14 | NetNut404_Work | what I don't get is what happened that the patched binary fixed the problem, but only for a day |
20:25.27 | NetNut404_Work | HEY!! it works again!!!! WHY!?!?!?!?! |
20:25.38 | kergoth | lol |
20:26.00 | NetNut404_Work | I hate problems that go away, with know knowledge as to why |
20:26.23 | NetNut404_Work | we didn't do anything |
20:27.17 | NetNut404_Work | so why is TZ not set from a ssh window? |
20:28.15 | treke | NetNut404_Work: because it isnt running within opi |
20:29.08 | treke | NetNut404_Work: OPIE sets the environment for its children at startup, and part of that environment is the timezone |
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20:50.46 | fdask | anyone here do recording on their Z? i can't seem to get opierec working properly... :( |
20:51.35 | dmueller_ | hmm |
20:55.58 | tru | how to get escape on the c700 keybord? :) |
20:56.04 | tru | vi is hard without it :) |
20:57.34 | kergoth | cancel probably |
20:57.48 | cyn | ya cancel |
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21:20.54 | Solar[X] | Question: does loading a CF card on OZ 3.2 take so long because there's something in the software/hardware that's causing it, or is the label just blocking any input? |
21:21.51 | treke | the label blocking input |
21:21.53 | treke | ? |
21:22.19 | Solar[X] | The one that says "New card blah blah" |
21:22.34 | ljp_laptop | no. |
21:22.34 | Solar[X] | Could be that it's always on top and therefore blocking input for a few seconds. |
21:22.59 | Solar[X] | So it's hardware? |
21:23.11 | Solar[X] | Or software in combination with hardware? |
21:23.16 | treke | its software |
21:23.32 | Solar[X] | When's it going to be fixed? ;) |
21:23.51 | treke | when you fix it |
21:24.35 | Solar[X] | Ok at least give me some hints on what's causing it. |
21:24.39 | treke | opie |
21:25.25 | ljp_laptop | not opie |
21:27.14 | Solar[X] | Glad you agree on that :S |
21:28.00 | ljp_laptop | its not the applet |
21:28.27 | Solar[X] | Is it card services or something? |
21:28.51 | Solar[X] | Or something indexing the card? |
21:29.04 | ljp_laptop | both |
21:29.28 | treke | it's not the applet, it's opie scanning the contents of the card |
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21:30.48 | PURDooM | Hey all |
21:30.57 | PURDooM | I tried putting the sharp rom back on my zaurus |
21:31.02 | PURDooM | and now i have no boot loader |
21:31.05 | PURDooM | any help? |
21:31.30 | kergoth | what makes you think you dont have a bootloader? |
21:31.39 | PURDooM | i cant flash anymore |
21:31.45 | PURDooM | no lights come up |
21:31.45 | cyn | heh |
21:31.47 | treke | if you really have no boot loader you are fucked, but you probably do have one |
21:31.54 | cyn | well |
21:31.55 | ljp_laptop | I am afraid you will have to send your zaurus to me |
21:32.03 | PURDooM | darn |
21:32.04 | cyn | did anything go wrong when you went to flash with sharprom PURDooM |
21:32.12 | PURDooM | not that i know of |
21:32.18 | cyn | like, flash from battery, power went out |
21:32.23 | cyn | then it's probably fine |
21:32.25 | PURDooM | followed instructrions to the letter with a 32 mb sandisk cflash card |
21:32.34 | cyn | same card you put OZ on with? |
21:32.55 | PURDooM | yes |
21:33.13 | PURDooM | i used a flashreader to store the rom |
21:33.22 | PURDooM | oh well |
21:33.37 | cyn | pull battery and ac, let it sit a bit, and retry |
21:33.43 | cyn | 15mins or so |
21:33.50 | ljp_laptop | pushed the reset button after your flashed it? |
21:33.56 | PURDooM | yep |
21:33.58 | PURDooM | oh well |
21:34.12 | kergoth | follow cyn's recommendation |
21:34.16 | kergoth | thats your last ditch attempt |
21:34.16 | kergoth | heh |
21:34.41 | PURDooM | my plan is to 'buy' a zaurus, and retrun the deffective one |
21:34.43 | cyn | wow I was just putting that out there as placebo advice to get rid of people |
21:34.50 | PURDooM | is it possible to remove the rom chip? |
21:35.03 | cyn | I mean, it seemed like it would be the logical attempt, but I hadn't confirmed it |
21:35.15 | cyn | PURDooM: opening the zaurus is not the way to fix it |
21:35.29 | cyn | opening it is the fastest way to ensure you bricked your zaurus |
21:35.37 | PURDooM | it is if your only other alternative is to send it to sharp for $90 |
21:35.40 | Twiun | and void any warranty |
21:35.50 | cyn | is $90 cheaper than a replacement? |
21:35.55 | PURDooM | whats warenty: :p |
21:35.57 | cyn | because that'll be your solution if you open it |
21:36.11 | kergoth | do *not* open your zaurus |
21:36.15 | kergoth | go call sharp tech support. |
21:36.19 | cyn | letting it sit without power for 15 minutes costs nothing |
21:36.25 | kergoth | yep |
21:36.59 | PURDooM | hmm\ |
21:37.17 | ljp_laptop | after that, plug in the power and le4t it charge a bit |
21:38.55 | treke | PURDooM: your plan is a shitty one |
21:38.58 | PURDooM | well i need to go eat food |
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21:39.20 | treke | "I broke it so I'm going to rip off the place I bought it from" |
21:40.09 | kergoth | "yeah! then they'll up their prices to swallow the loss and fuck everybody!" |
21:40.14 | kergoth | idiocy |
21:45.55 | cyn | man |
21:46.09 | cyn | I bought an open box ati all-in-wonder 7500 some time back |
21:46.11 | cyn | got home |
21:46.17 | cyn | and it was some old ass ati card |
21:46.21 | cyn | that's low |
21:46.25 | ljp_laptop | hehehe |
21:46.50 | cyn | it had all the cables and stuff too tho |
21:47.08 | cyn | the guy literally bought the new one, swapped it out, dusted/cleaned his old cables - boxed 'em up and slapped it back in |
21:48.15 | fdask | it was open box and you didn't have a look b4 purchasing? |
21:48.54 | cyn | they reseal them |
21:49.12 | cyn | but yeah now I do |
21:49.37 | cyn | I mean, I was able to return it - I had been in recently so I knew it had recently been put on the shelves, and I bought with my CC so it's not like they'd have trouble tracking me down |
21:49.53 | fdask | aah nice. |
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23:26.35 | bobbyd | hi |
23:27.00 | bobbyd | i'm trying to compile using gcc on the zaurus, but it complains that it cant find crt0.o at link time |
23:27.09 | bobbyd | does anyone know how to fix this? |
23:27.31 | bobbyd | (i also dont think the standard library is there, is there a package for this?) |
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23:40.01 | _fishy | Is TxImage OZ compatible? |
23:40.12 | kergoth | should be |
23:41.25 | _fishy | ok :) |
23:41.47 | _fishy | wasent sure cuz it isnt in the feed :) |
23:44.50 | dmueller_ | kg |
23:44.52 | dmueller_ | howdy |
23:46.04 | thomax23 | hi frau oder herr mueller |
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