| 00:01.26 | ljp_laptop | opie has no bugs, whadda you mean? |
| 00:02.21 | natty | oipkg doesn't even work |
| 00:02.45 | natty | ipkg would be fine if it would create the goddamn symbolic links |
| 00:06.23 | Twiun | oipkg is dead. aqpkg is the successor |
| 00:07.17 | ljp_laptop | long live aqpkg! |
| 00:07.33 | ljp_laptop | try ipkg-link |
| 00:07.40 | ljp_laptop | I think its called |
| 00:11.16 | natty | aha |
| 00:11.25 | natty | So do I install it with ipkg then run ipkg-link? |
| 00:12.21 | ljp_laptop | can try |
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| 00:12.34 | ljp_laptop | not sure of the syntax for ipkg-link |
| 00:12.50 | ljp_laptop | I think it can do individual packages |
| 00:17.48 | ljp_laptop | hmmm |
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| 00:50.03 | ljp_laptop | ibot test |
| 00:50.04 | | Passed |
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| 01:47.24 | W8TVI | What konqueror package do I want? |
| 01:47.53 | W8TVI | Theres one that says konqueror-snapshot and one that says konqueror-snapshot-full |
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| 02:15.50 | W8TVI | Anyone know what the little star on the blue dot in AQPkg means? |
| 02:27.13 | noidd | W8TVI: it means that there is a newer version of that installed package available in the feed |
| 02:27.28 | noidd | btw, I love your callsign ;-) |
| 02:29.12 | W8TVI | Thanks |
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| 03:04.41 | dedalus | anyone know why the gui ipkg fails with a "check spelling or update ipkg" with testing/unstable packages? |
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| 03:45.15 | W8TVI | How do you move things to other tabs? drag them? |
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| 04:13.19 | W8TVI | Anyone know how to get kismet working with Oz? |
| 04:13.47 | jmhodges | ok |
| 04:13.50 | jmhodges | OZ fscking rocks |
| 04:13.51 | jmhodges | just fyi |
| 04:16.07 | jmhodges | whats the reasoning behind opie-notesapplet seeing the Fn key as some odd character and not a meta key? |
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| 04:30.49 | Shtoink | Is there anyway to change the boot screen oz? |
| 04:32.13 | Shtoink | Is it as simple as replacing a picture? |
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| 07:47.51 | prh | kergoth: still broke? |
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| 16:01.32 | dc_ | kergoth: hey. |
| 16:01.50 | dc_ | kergoth: you got any c700 oz images around? |
| 16:07.44 | Twiun | dc_: kergoth still hasn't got net access at home - so he's not here on weekends |
| 16:08.02 | dc_ | heh :-\ |
| 16:08.09 | dc_ | anyone else have any ideas... |
| 16:08.15 | dc_ | the current ones are pretty old. |
| 16:09.37 | ljp_laptop | dont think he has been doing images lately |
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| 18:07.58 | davoid | what's the embedix kernel module that does ethernet over usb? |
| 18:08.03 | davoid | the name.. |
| 18:08.38 | davoid | I kinda fux0red my zaurus |
| 18:08.44 | davoid | and when I boot I get into console.. |
| 18:08.56 | davoid | I try to start opie but I think i've deleted some libs by mistale |
| 18:09.14 | davoid | and I try to format my cf card back to vfat but it fails with 'no such device' |
| 18:09.20 | davoid | what should be the kernel module for that? |
| 18:12.00 | davoid | wow pretty silent channel |
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| 18:59.01 | davoid_ | when I try to format my cf card to fat16 with mkfs.vfat -F16 /dev/hda1 it fails with /dev/hda1: No such device or address |
| 18:59.06 | davoid_ | what's the kernel module that I need |
| 18:59.17 | davoid_ | I tried everything... |
| 19:09.20 | ljp_laptop | dont eject the card before you try it, just umount it |
| 19:11.15 | davoid_ | I've deleted /usr by mistake and now I want to reflash the Z. |
| 19:11.20 | davoid_ | I can't mount it |
| 19:11.22 | davoid_ | at all |
| 19:11.32 | davoid_ | I can mount sd but not cf card |
| 19:11.53 | davoid_ | opie doesn't start anymore. |
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| 19:16.56 | davoid_ | how can I make a '\' with the keyboard? |
| 19:18.53 | LPotter__ | shift-tab |
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| 19:31.55 | neuling_ | Hi |
| 19:35.58 | neuling_ | Does anybody own a wlan cf card from sandisk? If yes - did you get it working with wep? |
| 19:38.12 | ljpzaurus | my dlink works |
| 19:42.06 | neuling_ | I got my sandisk working under sharp rom, but wasn't successfully using openzaurus |
| 19:46.13 | ljpzaurus | might check the bug tracker, or list archives |
| 19:46.55 | neuling_ | thanks ... must leave |
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| 20:06.56 | davoid_ | could someone please tell me what kernel modules they ahve loaded? |
| 20:07.04 | davoid_ | I need to know what to load for cf cards |
| 20:07.17 | davoid_ | a simple /sbin/lsmod should do it |
| 20:09.00 | ljp_laptop | cf should be built in to kernel |
| 20:11.04 | davoid_ | ljp_laptop: if I try to mount /dev/hda1 I get "unknown device" |
| 20:11.10 | davoid_ | I use mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/cf |
| 20:11.22 | davoid_ | since I can't get opie to start -- rm -rf /usr by mistake |
| 20:11.33 | ljp_laptop | try taking it out and putting it back in |
| 20:11.40 | davoid_ | did that already. same result |
| 20:12.00 | ljp_laptop | oh, you removed /usr? hmm |
| 20:12.08 | davoid_ | by mistake. |
| 20:12.16 | davoid_ | and I need to format it to fat16 |
| 20:12.19 | davoid_ | and reflash the z |
| 20:12.27 | davoid_ | and i have no external cf reader.. |
| 20:12.32 | davoid_ | I could always return this cf card... |
| 20:12.36 | ljp_laptop | hmmm |
| 20:14.08 | ljp_laptop | you might need one |
| 20:14.41 | davoid_ | unless I get /usr from initrd.bin |
| 20:14.47 | davoid_ | don't know how et |
| 20:14.48 | davoid_ | yet |
| 20:15.15 | ljp_laptop | initrd.bin is on cf still? |
| 20:15.33 | davoid_ | I have an sd card as well and a laptop with XP on it which has a built-in sd reader |
| 20:15.42 | davoid_ | and I can mount the sd card on my z |
| 20:16.00 | davoid_ | this might help. don't know how yet |
| 20:16.18 | ljp_laptop | oh |
| 20:16.20 | ljp_laptop | hmm |
| 20:17.09 | ljp_laptop | might be easiest to reflash, as long as initrd.bin and maybe zImage is on the cf |
| 20:17.23 | davoid_ | cf is ext2 |
| 20:17.27 | davoid_ | reformatted it |
| 20:17.31 | ljp_laptop | hmmm |
| 20:17.34 | davoid_ | trying to reformat it to fat16 now |
| 20:17.39 | davoid_ | cant'.. |
| 20:18.18 | ljp_laptop | how about just mount /mnt/cf ? |
| 20:19.44 | davoid_ | dont wokr eitther |
| 20:19.51 | davoid_ | seems like kernel doesn't recognize cf card at all |
| 20:20.06 | davoid_ | can you tell me what you get when you lsmod? |
| 20:20.43 | ljp_laptop | cf driver is not a modules |
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| 20:21.46 | ljp_laptop | I think |
| 20:22.04 | davoid_ | but could yo just tell me what you have loaded.. |
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| 20:22.10 | davoid_ | if I load the same modules, who knows |
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| 20:24.18 | ljpzaurus | # lsmod Module Size Used by hostap_crypt_wep 3264 1 (autoclean) hostap_cs 43728 1 hostap 60864 0 [hostap_cs] hostap_crypt 1568 0 [hostap_crypt_wep hostap] sharp_mmcsd_m 27472 1 collie_tc35143af 20592 0 (unused) collie_ssp 13664 0 [collie_tc35143af] devinfo 3104 0 (unused) sa1100_bi 44976 0 (unused) net_fd |
| 20:24.29 | davoid_ | tx |
| 20:24.36 | ljpzaurus | sure |
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| 20:28.58 | ljpzaurus | is there a /dev/hda1? |
| 20:29.10 | davoid_ | yes but if I try to cat it it says 'no such device' |
| 20:29.16 | davoid_ | I tried catting /dev/hda? |
| 20:29.23 | davoid_ | and /dev/hd[abc]? |
| 20:29.30 | davoid_ | all give same result |
| 20:29.55 | davoid_ | thing is even if I get a new cf card I still wont be able to read it |
| 20:30.05 | davoid_ | I need a cf reader usb one |
| 20:30.30 | ljpzaurus | its hda1 |
| 20:30.39 | davoid_ | I know I tried /dev/hda1 |
| 20:30.42 | davoid_ | 'no such device' |
| 20:30.53 | ljpzaurus | hmm odd. |
| 20:31.10 | ljpzaurus | cf readers are cheap |
| 20:31.50 | davoid_ | yeah here is 30$ canadian |
| 20:31.54 | davoid_ | I could pay that.. |
| 20:32.00 | davoid_ | it's almost 3 hours of work for me.. |
| 20:32.06 | davoid_ | to pay for my stupidity :P |
| 20:32.10 | davoid_ | seems like a good deal.. |
| 20:32.33 | ljpzaurus | not sure why you get no device tho |
| 20:32.41 | davoid_ | dones'nt matter much... |
| 20:32.49 | davoid_ | embeddix is not that high-quality anyways |
| 20:32.59 | davoid_ | nor is opie.. I need to learn C++ and debug.. |
| 20:33.01 | davoid_ | im a java guy.. |
| 20:33.20 | davoid_ | I wonder if I can get a sd and cf card all in one |
| 20:33.30 | ljpzaurus | opie is too.. ;) |
| 20:33.49 | davoid_ | nah opie has memory leaks. |
| 20:33.52 | davoid_ | big ones. |
| 20:33.59 | davoid_ | I've felt it, seen it |
| 20:34.01 | ljpzaurus | uh huh.. |
| 20:34.02 | davoid_ | needs correction |
| 20:34.09 | ljpzaurus | i never run into it |
| 20:34.13 | davoid_ | nto that im bitching about it, I just need to actually fix it. |
| 20:34.13 | yeiazel | uh uh :) |
| 20:34.43 | ljpzaurus | you have today applets installed? |
| 20:34.56 | ljpzaurus | like stockticker |
| 20:35.03 | davoid_ | yeah |
| 20:35.16 | davoid_ | Im wondering if the linux kernel can use cf readers |
| 20:35.20 | davoid_ | running linux on my computer.. |
| 20:35.20 | ljpzaurus | that one leaks a bit ;) |
| 20:35.45 | ljpzaurus | sure it can |
| 20:36.02 | davoid_ | yeah? |
| 20:36.05 | davoid_ | you got one? |
| 20:36.16 | ljpzaurus | no. |
| 20:36.38 | ljpzaurus | i have 2 z's to help me when I goof up |
| 20:36.56 | yeiazel | davoid_: do you think he can know it only if he has one ? |
| 20:37.26 | davoid_ | yeiazel: well it's the best test.. I mean.. |
| 20:37.41 | ljpzaurus | true... |
| 20:37.43 | davoid_ | if I don't see it work or know somebody has seen it work, I dont believe it much.. |
| 20:38.03 | davoid_ | mmm 7 in 1 reader |
| 20:38.07 | davoid_ | does cf and sd |
| 20:38.12 | davoid_ | wonder if it works on linux again.. |
| 20:38.27 | ljpzaurus | you can google to see.... |
| 20:38.32 | ljpzaurus | oh hehe |
| 20:40.28 | davoid_ | I think i'll get this 7 in 1 thing. and even if it pukes on linux I always have that win2k partition just for this :) |
| 20:40.47 | davoid_ | personally I always wanted *bsd on my pda.. |
| 20:40.52 | davoid_ | but no such project yet. |
| 20:41.20 | yeiazel | davoid_: yes they are |
| 20:41.31 | yeiazel | NetBSD already runs on iPaq |
| 20:41.32 | davoid_ | yeiazel: do you have a link? for the zaurus? |
| 20:41.36 | yeiazel | on HP Jordana too |
| 20:41.39 | davoid_ | yeiazel: yeah I saw jornada |
| 20:41.44 | davoid_ | no Z yet tho |
| 20:41.56 | yeiazel | and I'm in contact with some NetBSD people about the Zaurus |
| 20:42.01 | yeiazel | talken about it at the LSM |
| 20:42.07 | yeiazel | s/en/ed/ |
| 20:42.14 | davoid_ | what's LSM? |
| 20:42.23 | yeiazel | Libre Software Meeting |
| 20:42.36 | yeiazel | www.rencontresmondiales.org |
| 20:42.37 | davoid_ | and they're interested? |
| 20:42.41 | davoid_ | ah parfait :) |
| 20:43.24 | yeiazel | NetBSD doesn't run on the Z simply because nobody has tried yet |
| 20:43.27 | davoid_ | netbsd does run on the arm |
| 20:43.34 | davoid_ | yeah that's the thing :D |
| 20:43.50 | yeiazel | the hardware is nearly the same on the jordana, the ipaq, or the z |
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| 20:44.08 | davoid_ | *sigh* my todo projects list is so long :\ |
| 20:44.12 | yeiazel | :) |
| 20:44.39 | ljp_laptop | so delete it |
| 20:44.48 | yeiazel | good idea |
| 20:44.58 | davoid_ | Lol |
| 20:45.08 | davoid_ | yeah I should :P |
| 20:45.26 | davoid_ | as soon as I get this Java Swing done for my mom's beauty salon |
| 20:45.32 | davoid_ | app |
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