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| 00:04.50 | fdask | whats dimensions should i make an app i want to run on OZ so that the application bar will still be visible? |
| 00:18.08 | ljp_laptop_ | use qlayouts if you can, that way it will run on all devices |
| 00:18.34 | ljp_laptop_ | that way, it will resize automagically when the input method is opened |
| 00:19.53 | fdask | qlayouts? |
| 00:20.19 | fdask | ive been using qt designer to do my ui's... |
| 00:44.29 | ljp_laptop_ | I havent used that too much, but you can design layouts with it.. not sure how, but I know you can |
| 00:45.24 | fdask | well, i believe it auto puts my stuff into a layout control... when i run my app though, it stays a fixed size that my form is set to in designer. just wanted the dimensions so i could plug those in. |
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| 03:12.47 | bflong | FYI: new gcc3 build at http://bipolar.longbros.com/zaurus/feed-gcc3/ |
| 03:13.12 | ljp_laptop_ | have you tested it? |
| 03:13.49 | ljp_laptop_ | I might try a gcc build of qtopia for this c700 |
| 03:14.23 | bflong | ljp_laptop_: I'm running it. :) |
| 03:14.36 | bflong | ljp_laptop_: I always run my own gcc3 build |
| 03:15.08 | bflong | too bad glibc won't build right with gcc2. I've been trying to update the unstable feed for a month now. |
| 03:16.31 | ljp_laptop_ | hmm, I gave been building with gcc2 |
| 03:16.44 | ljp_laptop_ | just flashed a qtopia-oz rom on this c700 |
| 03:17.16 | bflong | ljp_laptop_: glibc is giving me an error. let me get it.... |
| 03:17.38 | ljp_laptop_ | which toolchain? there's one thats broked |
| 03:17.52 | bflong | I'm suposed to have the good one |
| 03:18.33 | ljp_laptop_ | I am using 2.95.3 |
| 03:19.04 | bflong | same here |
| 03:19.34 | ljp_laptop_ | soon as I get all these little tweaks automated, I will oush a few changes |
| 03:19.54 | ljp_laptop_ | oh, wait I am using 2.95.4, sorry |
| 03:20.15 | bflong | ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/pread.c: In function `__libc_pread': |
| 03:20.15 | bflong | ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/pread.c:53: `__NR_pread' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 03:20.16 | bflong | ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/pread.c:53: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once |
| 03:20.17 | bflong | ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/pread.c:53: for each function it appears in.) |
| 03:20.31 | ljp_laptop_ | this c700 screen is really nice |
| 03:20.33 | bflong | kergoth pointed me to the toolchain I'm using. |
| 03:20.59 | ljp_laptop_ | hmmm.. ya that error seems familiar |
| 03:21.01 | W8TVI | anyone know why OZ3.2 802.11b support keeps getting worse and worse the longer you sue it? |
| 03:21.08 | W8TVI | use it |
| 03:21.21 | ljp_laptop_ | heat? |
| 03:23.52 | W8TVI | just after instal everything worked right.. last night the wep key wouldnt stay set to open, now it wont even work with wep |
| 03:24.25 | ljp_laptop_ | hmm |
| 03:24.28 | W8TVI | and its not the card. it works right under win xp |
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| 03:29.30 | bflong | W8TVI: you run winXP on your zaurus? |
| 03:29.30 | bflong | ;p |
| 03:29.30 | fdask | winxp on a zaurus? amazing! :) |
| 03:29.30 | W8TVI | :P |
| 03:29.30 | W8TVI | I picked up a CF to PCMcia adapter |
| 03:29.30 | W8TVI | works nicely |
| 03:29.30 | bflong | i've seen win95 on an ipaq via bochs |
| 03:29.30 | bflong | slow as hell, but it's there |
| 03:29.30 | bflong | W8TVI: could be a memory leak, but it's more likely the heat. the PCMCIA adaptor probbly shelds it from heat better. |
| 03:29.30 | ljp_laptop_ | I've seen winxp on a p4.. slow as hell, but its there |
| 03:29.30 | bflong | HAHAHAHAH |
| 03:29.30 | fdask | i have xp on a 1ghz athlon and it runs fine |
| 03:29.50 | bflong | define "fine" |
| 03:29.53 | bflong | heh |
| 03:29.55 | W8TVI | the backlight makes more heat than card |
| 03:30.24 | bflong | W8TVI: exactly. |
| 03:30.30 | bflong | W8TVI: thats what I meant. |
| 03:30.44 | fdask | is there anything in proc where i can find out the power levels of various parts of my Z? |
| 03:30.56 | bflong | W8TVI: theres a lot more heat sources close to the card in the Z |
| 03:31.05 | fdask | my wcf12 wifi interferes with the screen (ie causes an annoying flicker), that i believe is due to its large power draw... |
| 03:31.33 | W8TVI | but it worked without problem on sharp rom |
| 03:31.52 | bflong | W8TVI: no clue then. |
| 03:32.21 | W8TVI | and the card works fine without wep |
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| 03:37.56 | W8TVI- | I couldnt get online with the z so I put it into the cf adapter and put it in the laptop here and thats how I'm getting online |
| 03:49.47 | W8TVI | its not getting an ip address |
| 03:51.05 | W8TVI | stupid thing turned wep back on |
| 03:52.12 | W8TVI | why wont the wep setting stay on open system and not shared key? |
| 03:54.44 | ljp_laptop_ | run out of space? |
| 03:55.55 | W8TVI | :/dev/roo/ 620kb free |
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| 04:04.41 | \Kritikal\ | anyone around? |
| 04:05.04 | ljp_laptop_ | kinda |
| 04:05.18 | \Kritikal\ | i'm having trouble installing the libffmpeg |
| 04:05.34 | ljp_laptop_ | ahh, ok |
| 04:05.42 | ljp_laptop_ | in oz/opie? |
| 04:05.55 | \Kritikal\ | i'm trying to get vlc going but when i go to install that lib it crashes and i cant install anymore ipkg |
| 04:06.04 | \Kritikal\ | yeah, oz 3.2, opie |
| 04:06.29 | ljp_laptop_ | using aqpkg? |
| 04:06.44 | \Kritikal\ | yep |
| 04:06.58 | ljp_laptop_ | hmm |
| 04:07.02 | \Kritikal\ | i even tried it on sharp's latest rom, does the same thing |
| 04:07.07 | \Kritikal\ | Error 127 |
| 04:07.26 | \Kritikal\ | its trying to access a folder |
| 04:07.38 | ljp_laptop_ | something might be messed up in that package, I dunno |
| 04:14.44 | \Kritikal\ | nm, found the answer |
| 04:14.46 | \Kritikal\ | thanks tho |
| 04:17.12 | ljp_laptop_ | whats was the answer? |
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| 09:23.46 | Rince | Good morning |
| 09:28.13 | Rince | do you know good sites where I can find background pictures for OZ? I found one with a lovely starmap or so, but that was a demo for an application... |
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| 09:46.54 | godsmoke | Rince: why not just make your own, I don't recall the pixel sizes off the top of my head ... but it's just a picture |
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| 09:57.30 | Rince | nothing more? okay :) |
| 09:57.36 | Rince | then I'll look out for some |
| 09:58.30 | XavierXeon | 320x240 |
| 09:58.46 | XavierXeon | bmp,png or kpg i think |
| 09:58.53 | XavierXeon | jpg that is |
| 09:58.54 | Rince | thx |
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| 15:41.59 | mattcamp | Has anyone gotten the NAS (Network Audio System) server to run on the Zaurus? |
| 15:47.33 | ljp_laptop | yes, I believe hardwire has |
| 15:49.52 | mattcamp | hardwire: If you can provide a configuration file, and either a binary or any necessary patches, that would help. |
| 15:50.26 | mattcamp | I looked at esound, but NAS has the advantage of a much better OSS emulation library (audiooss). |
| 15:51.10 | mattcamp | Also NAS has much better latency. The sample rate conversion in both of these programs is pretty bad though, but maybe I can work on that later. |
| 15:51.21 | mattcamp | I mean NAS has lower latency. |
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| 16:07.48 | hardwire | mattcamp: I got ESD working |
| 16:07.53 | hardwire | not NAS |
| 16:08.20 | mattcamp | Oops. |
| 16:08.43 | hardwire | just proving that LJP is a big fat liar! |
| 16:08.45 | hardwire | augh |
| 16:08.49 | hardwire | I thought today was friday |
| 16:08.52 | hardwire | and a holiday or something |
| 16:08.58 | hardwire | turns out its saturday |
| 16:08.58 | hardwire | wtf |
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| 16:10.23 | hardwire | ljp_laptop: heh.. so I am driving with a buddy of mine thru some of the country roads that go inbetween farm land and there is a giant watering arm for watering the crops thats really close to the street.. and one of its sprinkler heads is stuck spraying into the middle of the street |
| 16:10.31 | hardwire | so.. we see it and think ! HEY ! Free car wash! |
| 16:10.36 | hardwire | ramming speed captain |
| 16:10.47 | hardwire | so we go thru it.. it covers the entire car in one shot.. |
| 16:10.54 | hardwire | were like Awesome!!!.. Wait.. |
| 16:10.55 | hardwire | AUGH! |
| 16:11.01 | hardwire | Whats that smell! |
| 16:11.22 | hardwire | turns out they were probably using cow shit to fertalize..a nd pupping it thru those w/ water |
| 16:11.26 | hardwire | man it stunk! |
| 16:11.37 | hardwire | so.. the car now has a thin brown layer on it. |
| 16:11.37 | hardwire | ;( |
| 16:12.22 | hardwire | hah |
| 16:12.34 | hardwire | it was just too much for him |
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| 16:15.40 | ljp_laptop | greeley |
| 16:20.25 | hardwire | ;) |
| 16:20.36 | hardwire | ljp_laptop: whatchu up to today?! |
| 16:21.10 | ljp_laptop | playing with a c700 |
| 16:21.38 | hardwire | aww |
| 16:21.41 | hardwire | wanna come up? |
| 16:22.06 | ljp_laptop | why for? |
| 16:22.10 | hardwire | beer? |
| 16:22.15 | hardwire | food? |
| 16:22.16 | hardwire | merryness? |
| 16:22.24 | ljp_laptop | hmm, migh tbe fun |
| 16:22.33 | hardwire | might be! |
| 16:22.36 | hardwire | we have a puppy! |
| 16:22.40 | hardwire | IT WILL BE! |
| 16:22.44 | ljp_laptop | hehehe |
| 16:22.58 | hardwire | that and I really wanna get a peek at the c700 now ;) |
| 16:23.24 | hardwire | but.. I was thinking you should come up before you mentioned that ;) |
| 16:23.30 | hardwire | CAUSE I WUV YOU! |
| 16:23.46 | ljp_laptop | hmmmmmmm, maybe I'd better stay here then |
| 16:23.49 | hardwire | hehe |
| 16:24.06 | hardwire | naw.. come up.. go out and do the grub/beer thing and catch up on times we never had |
| 16:25.02 | ljp_laptop | hmmm... |
| 16:25.23 | hardwire | rawr? |
| 16:26.51 | ljp_laptop | rawr?! |
| 16:27.00 | hardwire | rawr rawr rawr. |
| 16:30.07 | ljp_laptop | I dont drink beer |
| 16:30.18 | hardwire | haw |
| 16:30.26 | hardwire | you sure drink something! |
| 16:30.53 | ljp_laptop | yup |
| 16:30.53 | hardwire | naw.. I think I am supposed to work today ;( |
| 16:30.56 | hardwire | gonna learn how to weld |
| 16:31.10 | ljp_laptop | hmmm |
| 16:31.16 | ljp_laptop | ever get that submarine built? |
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| 16:34.30 | hardwire | ljp_laptop: yes.. sorta |
| 16:34.48 | hardwire | we have half a mil $$ waiting to get approved |
| 16:34.50 | ljp_laptop | well, why invite me up if you gotta work, dudeawa? |
| 16:35.00 | hardwire | for startup.. then after 6 months gonna get 10mil |
| 16:35.07 | ljp_laptop | buy my car when that comes through |
| 16:35.08 | hardwire | ljp_laptop: cause I forgot! |
| 16:35.23 | ljp_laptop | and give me some money just because |
| 16:40.52 | hardwire | heh |
| 16:41.04 | hardwire | ok /me heads out |
| 16:41.11 | hardwire | forgot I need to find a house to live in too |
| 16:41.26 | ljp_laptop | buy my van, you get a house and car in one! |
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| 17:25.16 | Fare | hi |
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| 18:08.59 | Carkus | i read that there was a bug in OZ regarding WEP settings for the wifi config gui. does anyone know if this prob exists on the latest OZ ? |
| 18:09.18 | osist | hiya, i have remove opie, and installed rom image 3.0 |
| 18:10.22 | osist | now the reason i done that i want hancom suite, but i can see i have .ipk files in my linux box file system, so can i just install these in opie, or i have to use the old rom image 2.38 and rip them off |
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| 19:21.40 | osist | hiya, i have removed oz, and installed rom image 3.0 |
| 19:21.45 | osist | now the reason i done that i want hancom suite, but i can see i have .ipk files in my linux box file system, so can i just install these in opie, or i have to use the old rom image 2.38 and rip them off |
| 19:30.25 | TheMasterMind1 | check the forums |
| 19:30.32 | TheMasterMind1 | zaurus.com/dev/board/ |
| 19:33.50 | osist | thanks |
| 19:34.13 | Fare | btw, I haven't used the Z for some time (moving, etc.), and now, the USB cable doesn't look like it works anymore |
| 19:34.24 | Fare | could it be broken, or am I doing anything wrong? |
| 19:34.28 | Fare | how can I test the cable? |
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| 19:42.25 | \Kritikal\ | anyone know where i can go to get the operacreator ipk, seems the link on the ZSI doesnt work |
| 19:43.01 | mattcamp | Fare: Have you tried rebooting the Z? |
| 19:43.29 | Fare | mattcamp: I think I did |
| 19:43.33 | Fare | I will have to retry |
| 19:43.53 | Fare | darn, I don't have the Z with me |
| 19:47.54 | osist | mmh i wish there is a survey/.bench mark which romimage is better |
| 19:48.18 | osist | now i have another choice after reading that /dev/board :( the Kompanyrom |
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| 20:10.28 | TheMasterMind1 | tkc sucks |
| 20:10.38 | Fare | tkc? |
| 20:10.54 | TheMasterMind1 | the kompany |
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| 20:54.22 | Fare | will Windows serve as a masquerading router for my Z ? |
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