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00:07.45CopeHiya - trying to get an ipkg from linux box to zaurus - can anyone help?
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00:09.25ljp_laptop_oz? use scp
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00:09.45emacsenljp_laptop_: do you use either xmms or opie-multimedia (or whatever the player is called)?
00:10.00CopeI can ping the zaurus - so we have a connection; I have the terminal ipkg on the linux box... how can I get it onto the zaurus?
00:10.07emacsenljp_laptop_: the media player never starts for me. And xmms never sodnloads
00:10.28dc_hey
00:10.37dc_where can I get irda modules for the oe kernel?
00:10.43dc_oz, whatever.
00:11.15emacsenbbl
00:12.06ljp_laptop_Cope: try scp command
00:12.29ljp_laptop_emacsen: do you have a skins package installed?
00:12.35dc_um, someone got a Z with 2.4.18-rmk7 kernel installed?
00:14.51Copeljp - What would the user be called on the zaurus?
00:15.24ljp_laptop_user root
00:15.42ljp_laptop_dc_ yes, more or less
00:16.06dc_ljp_laptop_: could you possibly send me the irda drivers. or point me to somewhere I could donwload them from.
00:16.23dc_ljp_laptop_: as they weren't included in the c700 image.
00:16.28ljp_laptop_irda? hmm
00:16.34dc_indeed.
00:16.55ljp_laptop_let me check, as its on a c700
00:17.06dc_doh
00:17.09dc_ljp_laptop_: did you compile?
00:17.47ljp_laptop_ya
00:18.04ljp_laptop_I dont see them, though.
00:18.14dc_heh :-///
00:18.27ljp_laptop_might be compiled in
00:18.33Copeljp_laptop_ - port 22 not open on the zaurus
00:18.51ljp_laptop_Cope: is that openzaurus you are using?
00:19.19dc_ljp_laptop_: try ifconfig irda0 up then...
00:19.49Copeljp_laptop_ - Ah no - I'm trying to get a terminal program onto the original zaurus first, so I have a shell to work from.
00:19.56ljp_laptop_hmmm ;(
00:20.09dc_ljp_laptop_: ?
00:20.22ljp_laptop_no such device
00:20.31dc_heh
00:20.38ljp_laptop_Cope: ok, using rom 3.1?
00:20.52Copeljp_laptop_ - 2.35
00:21.50ljp_laptop_dc_: kernel seems to be configured properly
00:22.16dc_ljp_laptop_: meaning...we have a total lack of irda modules all together?
00:22.22ljp_laptop_Cope: you can ftp to port 4242 user root pass rootme
00:22.46ljp_laptop_dc_: no its compiled in the kernel. just no device apparently
00:22.53dc_ah okay.
00:22.55dc_shoot
00:24.00ljp_laptop_hmm
00:24.35Copeljp_laptop_ - ok will try that
00:25.53ljp_laptop_dc_: hmm, actually, it does have the device file
00:26.18dc_ljp_laptop_: okay..
00:26.29dc_ljp_laptop_: is irlan compiled in?
00:27.24Copeljp_laptop_ - ok, connected to 4242, put <file> Do I need a destination? eg put /home/cope/foo.ipk /Applications/foo.ipk?
00:27.31ljp_laptop_dc_: nope
00:27.47ljp_laptop_neither is IRNET
00:28.18ljp_laptop_Cope: ya, or /mntcf if you have a cf
00:28.26ljp_laptop_err /mnt/cf
00:28.48ljp_laptop_that would be your cf card
00:29.55CopeAh - ok.
00:30.07dc_ljp_laptop_: what would be our problem, hehh...
00:36.10Copeljp_laptop_ - hmm odd; well managed to ftp the file to /tmp but not to /root/Applications
00:36.20CopeHow can I move it on the zaurus?
00:37.11ljp_laptop_dc_: try doing irattach /dev/ircomm
00:37.22ljp_laptop_then try the ir
00:38.07dc_yay
00:39.39ljp_laptop_working?
00:39.50dc_let see.
00:39.55dc_ifconfig irda0 up worked.
00:47.55dc_heh
00:48.00dc_not much going on now.
00:48.13dc_cat /proc/net/irda/discovery won't discover anything
00:50.01ljp_laptop_irattach -s /dev/ircomm maybe
00:53.27dc_when I use -s ifconfig irda0 up says no such device
00:57.33ljp_laptop_hmm
00:57.49dc_ah -s at the end works
00:57.58dc_rigth
00:58.30dc_irattach /dev/ircomm -s with or without the -s is the only irattach device that will then let me do ifconfig irda0 up okay.
00:58.34dc_so that must be right.
00:58.52dc_(/dev/ttySA2 or just irda0 don't work - http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/IrDA)
00:58.58ljp_laptop_oh.. heh
01:04.26dc_hrmmmmmmm
01:05.09bipolardoes anyone here use Wellenreiter?
01:09.39ljp_laptop_mickeyl does
01:10.05bipolarit's a packet/hardware sniffer for Wlan, right?
01:10.12dc_ljp_laptop_: so..any other ideas?
01:10.41bipolarnot like kismet, which is more usefull for warwalking.
01:11.44ljp_laptop_zaurus' ir device is /dev/ircomm
01:12.08dc_hrm yes...and irattch seems to work for it.
01:12.18ljp_laptop_not sure whats going on, harlekin says his ir works
01:12.26dc_oh/
01:12.32dc_what command set is he using?
01:12.39bipolarit looks like Wr can do it all. I'm just confused, as usual... :p
01:14.35bipolarI'm going to have a shitload of patches to submit to kergoth for buildroot tomorrow. ;)
01:15.50ljp_laptop_dc_: join #opie he's in there
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10:58.43CopeAfternoon
11:06.42oobhi
11:07.21CopeJust got myself a cf card, so OZ can be achieved... just settling down to read how.
11:07.53oobnice one
11:08.27madeddiecopy files, flash, done :)
11:09.05CopeDo I need to mkfs on the cf card?
11:09.16CopeSorry - I'll shut up and rtfm first.
11:09.21Cope:-0
11:09.29madeddie:)
11:14.07CopeOk - so looks as if the flash card is pre formatted - altough after mounting it it seems to have a palm directory etc...
11:14.38CopeSo now I can ftp the zImage to the Z, then move to /mnt/cf and flash
11:14.54CopeIs that right?
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11:46.18madeddiezImage and initrd.bin
11:51.31CopeOk - just need my cradle, which I left at home :-(
11:52.33madeddieno wireless?
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17:45.04bhsxis there a known issue with the package manager in 3.2 that causes it to continually lockup?
17:56.02nerdboysounds like bad media
17:56.12nerdboyare you using an sd card?
17:59.54bhsxcf card
18:00.22nerdboywhat filesystem?
18:00.27bhsxvfat
18:00.41nerdboythat's probably it
18:01.00bhsxhmm...  i'll reformat and test again
18:01.02nerdboyyou should use ext2 at least
18:01.22bhsxreally?  everything i've read says stay with vfat
18:02.01nerdboyfor copying files back and forth to windoze, yes
18:02.20nerdboyalso for use in other devices (like cameras) you want vfat
18:02.44nerdboybut for install apps, vfat doesn't support symlinks, perms, or any of that stuff
18:02.52nerdboyso how could it work?
18:06.28bhsxbut i'm trying to install to root, not the card
18:07.04kergothit isnt locking up
18:07.14kergothits hanging while jffs2 garbage collects
18:07.21kergothif you let it sit there, maybe for a half an hour, it'll return
18:07.32kergoththats a problem with our old kernel tree in current released oz version
18:07.33kergoths
18:07.35bhsxok, i did read that in the FAQ, but i didn't quite understand it
18:08.05bhsxbut i'll just take it as you stated
18:10.17bhsxbah... i will need to keep the cf vfat...  methinks a reflash is in order with more storage space
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21:32.28dan2003anybody got OZ on a c760 yet ?
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22:33.13CopeEvening
22:36.51CopeHiya - I have a 5500 and a 256MB CF card - no plans to use cf port for network or anything else - would I be wise to use a 64-0 kernel?
22:37.08kergothprobably
22:38.38Copek
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23:11.02CopeHmm - ok - put cf card into Zaurus, little card icon appears, but can't find it in the file system, or mount it to /mnt/cf - am I missing something?
23:11.58W8TVICope: it should be at /mnt/cf
23:12.55CopeYep - in shell did cd /mnt/cd - says cf is not a directort
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23:13.20W8TVIDo "cd /mnt/cf"
23:13.22W8TVI:P
23:13.38Copecf Is what I did - typo
23:14.15Cope/mnt/cf: Not a directory
23:15.21W8TVIDo cd /mnt
23:15.26W8TVIAnd ls
23:16.06CopeShows card cf ide and net
23:16.49W8TVIHmmm
23:17.08W8TVIWhat color is cf
23:17.51CopePhysically? It has a green sticker on it
23:17.57W8TVINo
23:18.17W8TVIWhen you type ls in the /mnt dir
23:18.31CopeAh sorry!! No colour in the terminal, just b&w
23:18.38W8TVIHmmm
23:18.41Copebut ls -l
23:20.28CopeShows its -rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 14811134
23:21.46W8TVIMine shows drwxr--r-- 5 root root 16384 dec 31 1969 cf
23:22.29CopeHmm - just managed to mount the card to /mnt.ide
23:22.36Cope/mnt/ide sorry
23:23.49CopeYeah, mine says something similar now
23:23.54CopeOnly on /mnt/ide
23:23.59W8TVIK
23:24.22CopeSo can I ftp the zImage and initrd straight to /mnt/ide?
23:24.36W8TVIThink so....
23:25.04CopeI wonder why it wouldn't automount to /mnt/cf
23:25.29W8TVIDont know....
23:27.09CopeCool - zImage and initrd.bin now on card.
23:28.53CopeOk - now before I break things - I have a 64-0 kernel, and initrd.bin on the flashcard - after flashing will OZ know to use my cf as storage?
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23:32.06W8TVIGrrr
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23:32.47W8TVIIbot: get stuffed.
23:32.48ACTION gets stuffed and sods off
23:33.18CopeSeriously - if I flash now, having chosen 64 - 0 will the cf card be used for storage etc?
23:33.49W8TVIYou will have to set it that way... and I dont know how
23:33.54CopeOk
23:34.09CopeWell I guess if I break it I will have to fix it.
23:34.18W8TVIIt might be as easy as just installing programs to the SD of CF card
23:34.32W8TVIDownload some other split too
23:34.42W8TVIThe 24/40 works nicely
23:35.33CopeOk - I'll use the 24/40 first, I suppose
23:35.34AimioThe prism_cs module loads when wireless card is in, but no access point is detected :/ (sure access point is working - no wep+pptp) ?
23:36.08W8TVIThats what I use the first time... I tryed the 32/32 this time, and I think I should have gone with the 24/40
23:36.24W8TVIWith 40mb ram it doesn't complain about running out of ram
23:36.34Copeok - flashing!
23:37.43W8TVIWhen your done flashing (both lights go out), press the full reset button before you put the cover back on
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23:40.16Cope<PROTECTED>
23:42.12W8TVIcool
23:42.31W8TVIit'll take about 2 mins to make the shh keys
23:43.09W8TVIwill you be doing anything thing with 802.11b?
23:43.27CopeWoo!! Opie up and running
23:44.16W8TVIbrb
23:47.41CopeWireless - I'd like to, but I'd need to do some reading.
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