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00:07.45 | Cope | Hiya - trying to get an ipkg from linux box to zaurus - can anyone help? |
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00:09.25 | ljp_laptop_ | oz? use scp |
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00:09.45 | emacsen | ljp_laptop_: do you use either xmms or opie-multimedia (or whatever the player is called)? |
00:10.00 | Cope | I can ping the zaurus - so we have a connection; I have the terminal ipkg on the linux box... how can I get it onto the zaurus? |
00:10.07 | emacsen | ljp_laptop_: the media player never starts for me. And xmms never sodnloads |
00:10.28 | dc_ | hey |
00:10.37 | dc_ | where can I get irda modules for the oe kernel? |
00:10.43 | dc_ | oz, whatever. |
00:11.15 | emacsen | bbl |
00:12.06 | ljp_laptop_ | Cope: try scp command |
00:12.29 | ljp_laptop_ | emacsen: do you have a skins package installed? |
00:12.35 | dc_ | um, someone got a Z with 2.4.18-rmk7 kernel installed? |
00:14.51 | Cope | ljp - What would the user be called on the zaurus? |
00:15.24 | ljp_laptop_ | user root |
00:15.42 | ljp_laptop_ | dc_ yes, more or less |
00:16.06 | dc_ | ljp_laptop_: could you possibly send me the irda drivers. or point me to somewhere I could donwload them from. |
00:16.23 | dc_ | ljp_laptop_: as they weren't included in the c700 image. |
00:16.28 | ljp_laptop_ | irda? hmm |
00:16.34 | dc_ | indeed. |
00:16.55 | ljp_laptop_ | let me check, as its on a c700 |
00:17.06 | dc_ | doh |
00:17.09 | dc_ | ljp_laptop_: did you compile? |
00:17.47 | ljp_laptop_ | ya |
00:18.04 | ljp_laptop_ | I dont see them, though. |
00:18.14 | dc_ | heh :-/// |
00:18.27 | ljp_laptop_ | might be compiled in |
00:18.33 | Cope | ljp_laptop_ - port 22 not open on the zaurus |
00:18.51 | ljp_laptop_ | Cope: is that openzaurus you are using? |
00:19.19 | dc_ | ljp_laptop_: try ifconfig irda0 up then... |
00:19.49 | Cope | ljp_laptop_ - Ah no - I'm trying to get a terminal program onto the original zaurus first, so I have a shell to work from. |
00:19.56 | ljp_laptop_ | hmmm ;( |
00:20.09 | dc_ | ljp_laptop_: ? |
00:20.22 | ljp_laptop_ | no such device |
00:20.31 | dc_ | heh |
00:20.38 | ljp_laptop_ | Cope: ok, using rom 3.1? |
00:20.52 | Cope | ljp_laptop_ - 2.35 |
00:21.50 | ljp_laptop_ | dc_: kernel seems to be configured properly |
00:22.16 | dc_ | ljp_laptop_: meaning...we have a total lack of irda modules all together? |
00:22.22 | ljp_laptop_ | Cope: you can ftp to port 4242 user root pass rootme |
00:22.46 | ljp_laptop_ | dc_: no its compiled in the kernel. just no device apparently |
00:22.53 | dc_ | ah okay. |
00:22.55 | dc_ | shoot |
00:24.00 | ljp_laptop_ | hmm |
00:24.35 | Cope | ljp_laptop_ - ok will try that |
00:25.53 | ljp_laptop_ | dc_: hmm, actually, it does have the device file |
00:26.18 | dc_ | ljp_laptop_: okay.. |
00:26.29 | dc_ | ljp_laptop_: is irlan compiled in? |
00:27.24 | Cope | ljp_laptop_ - ok, connected to 4242, put <file> Do I need a destination? eg put /home/cope/foo.ipk /Applications/foo.ipk? |
00:27.31 | ljp_laptop_ | dc_: nope |
00:27.47 | ljp_laptop_ | neither is IRNET |
00:28.18 | ljp_laptop_ | Cope: ya, or /mntcf if you have a cf |
00:28.26 | ljp_laptop_ | err /mnt/cf |
00:28.48 | ljp_laptop_ | that would be your cf card |
00:29.55 | Cope | Ah - ok. |
00:30.07 | dc_ | ljp_laptop_: what would be our problem, hehh... |
00:36.10 | Cope | ljp_laptop_ - hmm odd; well managed to ftp the file to /tmp but not to /root/Applications |
00:36.20 | Cope | How can I move it on the zaurus? |
00:37.11 | ljp_laptop_ | dc_: try doing irattach /dev/ircomm |
00:37.22 | ljp_laptop_ | then try the ir |
00:38.07 | dc_ | yay |
00:39.39 | ljp_laptop_ | working? |
00:39.50 | dc_ | let see. |
00:39.55 | dc_ | ifconfig irda0 up worked. |
00:47.55 | dc_ | heh |
00:48.00 | dc_ | not much going on now. |
00:48.13 | dc_ | cat /proc/net/irda/discovery won't discover anything |
00:50.01 | ljp_laptop_ | irattach -s /dev/ircomm maybe |
00:53.27 | dc_ | when I use -s ifconfig irda0 up says no such device |
00:57.33 | ljp_laptop_ | hmm |
00:57.49 | dc_ | ah -s at the end works |
00:57.58 | dc_ | rigth |
00:58.30 | dc_ | irattach /dev/ircomm -s with or without the -s is the only irattach device that will then let me do ifconfig irda0 up okay. |
00:58.34 | dc_ | so that must be right. |
00:58.52 | dc_ | (/dev/ttySA2 or just irda0 don't work - http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/IrDA) |
00:58.58 | ljp_laptop_ | oh.. heh |
01:04.26 | dc_ | hrmmmmmmm |
01:05.09 | bipolar | does anyone here use Wellenreiter? |
01:09.39 | ljp_laptop_ | mickeyl does |
01:10.05 | bipolar | it's a packet/hardware sniffer for Wlan, right? |
01:10.12 | dc_ | ljp_laptop_: so..any other ideas? |
01:10.41 | bipolar | not like kismet, which is more usefull for warwalking. |
01:11.44 | ljp_laptop_ | zaurus' ir device is /dev/ircomm |
01:12.08 | dc_ | hrm yes...and irattch seems to work for it. |
01:12.18 | ljp_laptop_ | not sure whats going on, harlekin says his ir works |
01:12.26 | dc_ | oh/ |
01:12.32 | dc_ | what command set is he using? |
01:12.39 | bipolar | it looks like Wr can do it all. I'm just confused, as usual... :p |
01:14.35 | bipolar | I'm going to have a shitload of patches to submit to kergoth for buildroot tomorrow. ;) |
01:15.50 | ljp_laptop_ | dc_: join #opie he's in there |
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10:58.43 | Cope | Afternoon |
11:06.42 | oob | hi |
11:07.21 | Cope | Just got myself a cf card, so OZ can be achieved... just settling down to read how. |
11:07.53 | oob | nice one |
11:08.27 | madeddie | copy files, flash, done :) |
11:09.05 | Cope | Do I need to mkfs on the cf card? |
11:09.16 | Cope | Sorry - I'll shut up and rtfm first. |
11:09.21 | Cope | :-0 |
11:09.29 | madeddie | :) |
11:14.07 | Cope | Ok - so looks as if the flash card is pre formatted - altough after mounting it it seems to have a palm directory etc... |
11:14.38 | Cope | So now I can ftp the zImage to the Z, then move to /mnt/cf and flash |
11:14.54 | Cope | Is that right? |
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11:46.18 | madeddie | zImage and initrd.bin |
11:51.31 | Cope | Ok - just need my cradle, which I left at home :-( |
11:52.33 | madeddie | no wireless? |
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17:45.04 | bhsx | is there a known issue with the package manager in 3.2 that causes it to continually lockup? |
17:56.02 | nerdboy | sounds like bad media |
17:56.12 | nerdboy | are you using an sd card? |
17:59.54 | bhsx | cf card |
18:00.22 | nerdboy | what filesystem? |
18:00.27 | bhsx | vfat |
18:00.41 | nerdboy | that's probably it |
18:01.00 | bhsx | hmm... i'll reformat and test again |
18:01.02 | nerdboy | you should use ext2 at least |
18:01.22 | bhsx | really? everything i've read says stay with vfat |
18:02.01 | nerdboy | for copying files back and forth to windoze, yes |
18:02.20 | nerdboy | also for use in other devices (like cameras) you want vfat |
18:02.44 | nerdboy | but for install apps, vfat doesn't support symlinks, perms, or any of that stuff |
18:02.52 | nerdboy | so how could it work? |
18:06.28 | bhsx | but i'm trying to install to root, not the card |
18:07.04 | kergoth | it isnt locking up |
18:07.14 | kergoth | its hanging while jffs2 garbage collects |
18:07.21 | kergoth | if you let it sit there, maybe for a half an hour, it'll return |
18:07.32 | kergoth | thats a problem with our old kernel tree in current released oz version |
18:07.33 | kergoth | s |
18:07.35 | bhsx | ok, i did read that in the FAQ, but i didn't quite understand it |
18:08.05 | bhsx | but i'll just take it as you stated |
18:10.17 | bhsx | bah... i will need to keep the cf vfat... methinks a reflash is in order with more storage space |
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21:32.28 | dan2003 | anybody got OZ on a c760 yet ? |
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22:33.13 | Cope | Evening |
22:36.51 | Cope | Hiya - I have a 5500 and a 256MB CF card - no plans to use cf port for network or anything else - would I be wise to use a 64-0 kernel? |
22:37.08 | kergoth | probably |
22:38.38 | Cope | k |
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23:11.02 | Cope | Hmm - ok - put cf card into Zaurus, little card icon appears, but can't find it in the file system, or mount it to /mnt/cf - am I missing something? |
23:11.58 | W8TVI | Cope: it should be at /mnt/cf |
23:12.55 | Cope | Yep - in shell did cd /mnt/cd - says cf is not a directort |
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23:13.20 | W8TVI | Do "cd /mnt/cf" |
23:13.22 | W8TVI | :P |
23:13.38 | Cope | cf Is what I did - typo |
23:14.15 | Cope | /mnt/cf: Not a directory |
23:15.21 | W8TVI | Do cd /mnt |
23:15.26 | W8TVI | And ls |
23:16.06 | Cope | Shows card cf ide and net |
23:16.49 | W8TVI | Hmmm |
23:17.08 | W8TVI | What color is cf |
23:17.51 | Cope | Physically? It has a green sticker on it |
23:17.57 | W8TVI | No |
23:18.17 | W8TVI | When you type ls in the /mnt dir |
23:18.31 | Cope | Ah sorry!! No colour in the terminal, just b&w |
23:18.38 | W8TVI | Hmmm |
23:18.41 | Cope | but ls -l |
23:20.28 | Cope | Shows its -rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 14811134 |
23:21.46 | W8TVI | Mine shows drwxr--r-- 5 root root 16384 dec 31 1969 cf |
23:22.29 | Cope | Hmm - just managed to mount the card to /mnt.ide |
23:22.36 | Cope | /mnt/ide sorry |
23:23.49 | Cope | Yeah, mine says something similar now |
23:23.54 | Cope | Only on /mnt/ide |
23:23.59 | W8TVI | K |
23:24.22 | Cope | So can I ftp the zImage and initrd straight to /mnt/ide? |
23:24.36 | W8TVI | Think so.... |
23:25.04 | Cope | I wonder why it wouldn't automount to /mnt/cf |
23:25.29 | W8TVI | Dont know.... |
23:27.09 | Cope | Cool - zImage and initrd.bin now on card. |
23:28.53 | Cope | Ok - now before I break things - I have a 64-0 kernel, and initrd.bin on the flashcard - after flashing will OZ know to use my cf as storage? |
23:29.19 | W8TVI | Karma for openzaurus? |
23:29.34 | W8TVI | Hmmm.... |
23:29.59 | W8TVI | Karma openzaurus |
23:30.28 | W8TVI | Ibot: karma openzaurus |
23:30.28 | | openzaurus has neutral karma |
23:30.53 | W8TVI | Openzaurus++ |
23:30.59 | W8TVI | Ibot: karma openzaurus |
23:30.59 | | openzaurus has neutral karma |
23:31.12 | W8TVI | Ibot: openzaurus++ |
23:31.21 | W8TVI | Karma openzaurus |
23:31.32 | W8TVI | Oops |
23:31.35 | W8TVI | Ibot: karma openzaurus |
23:31.35 | | openzaurus has neutral karma |
23:31.58 | W8TVI | Ibot: karma openzaurus++ |
23:31.58 | | openzaurus++ has neutral karma |
23:32.06 | W8TVI | Grrr |
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23:32.47 | W8TVI | Ibot: get stuffed. |
23:32.48 | | ACTION gets stuffed and sods off |
23:33.18 | Cope | Seriously - if I flash now, having chosen 64 - 0 will the cf card be used for storage etc? |
23:33.49 | W8TVI | You will have to set it that way... and I dont know how |
23:33.54 | Cope | Ok |
23:34.09 | Cope | Well I guess if I break it I will have to fix it. |
23:34.18 | W8TVI | It might be as easy as just installing programs to the SD of CF card |
23:34.32 | W8TVI | Download some other split too |
23:34.42 | W8TVI | The 24/40 works nicely |
23:35.33 | Cope | Ok - I'll use the 24/40 first, I suppose |
23:35.34 | Aimio | The prism_cs module loads when wireless card is in, but no access point is detected :/ (sure access point is working - no wep+pptp) ? |
23:36.08 | W8TVI | Thats what I use the first time... I tryed the 32/32 this time, and I think I should have gone with the 24/40 |
23:36.24 | W8TVI | With 40mb ram it doesn't complain about running out of ram |
23:36.34 | Cope | ok - flashing! |
23:37.43 | W8TVI | When your done flashing (both lights go out), press the full reset button before you put the cover back on |
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23:40.16 | Cope | <PROTECTED> |
23:42.12 | W8TVI | cool |
23:42.31 | W8TVI | it'll take about 2 mins to make the shh keys |
23:43.09 | W8TVI | will you be doing anything thing with 802.11b? |
23:43.27 | Cope | Woo!! Opie up and running |
23:44.16 | W8TVI | brb |
23:47.41 | Cope | Wireless - I'd like to, but I'd need to do some reading. |
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