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| 01:38.16 | noidd | wheeee |
| 01:38.26 | noidd | so, lets take a look at what ya could have won |
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| 01:53.24 | noidd | damnit |
| 01:53.35 | noidd | I don't get why i'm not seeing this WEP stuff in opie |
| 01:59.37 | oob | why use wep anyway |
| 02:00.36 | noidd | its one more thing for people to try and break to get into my network |
| 02:02.31 | oob | have you seen nocatauth ? |
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| 05:27.19 | _z0ne_jimmytango | hello! |
| 05:27.35 | _z0ne_jimmytango | i hope someone is still up... |
| 05:27.58 | bronson | whatup? |
| 05:28.16 | _z0ne_jimmytango | i was hoping that someone could give me a little help... |
| 05:28.24 | _z0ne_jimmytango | just installed openzaurus on my 5500... |
| 05:28.34 | _z0ne_jimmytango | but i cant get any networking working at all |
| 05:28.45 | _z0ne_jimmytango | are you up for it? |
| 05:28.48 | bronson | How are you trying to network it? |
| 05:28.51 | _z0ne_jimmytango | (pleeease) |
| 05:29.01 | _z0ne_jimmytango | either USb or the WCF11 |
| 05:29.11 | bronson | What kernel are you running? |
| 05:29.24 | _z0ne_jimmytango | ps...my pc is winxp |
| 05:29.31 | _z0ne_jimmytango | zaurus is 2.4.6 |
| 05:29.38 | bronson | Ah. I don't have any experience with XP. |
| 05:30.01 | _z0ne_jimmytango | i know a WHILE ago, i had no problems with the USB networking in XP |
| 05:30.01 | bronson | USB networking is broken on Linux up to kernel 2.4.21. |
| 05:30.06 | W8TVI | what kinda networking problems? |
| 05:30.13 | W8TVI | ah |
| 05:30.26 | W8TVI | I dont use usb networking |
| 05:30.27 | bronson | Um, mostly dropped links and corrupted packets. |
| 05:30.31 | bronson | WiFi works great though. |
| 05:30.38 | _z0ne_jimmytango | but that was with the sharp rom and driverss... |
| 05:30.38 | W8TVI | thats what I use |
| 05:30.45 | _z0ne_jimmytango | i cant get that working either |
| 05:30.49 | W8TVI | hey _z0ne_jimmytango |
| 05:30.52 | _z0ne_jimmytango | yes |
| 05:30.53 | W8TVI | use winSCP |
| 05:30.57 | _z0ne_jimmytango | i am |
| 05:31.02 | _z0ne_jimmytango | well...trying |
| 05:31.08 | W8TVI | it seems to work ok |
| 05:31.13 | _z0ne_jimmytango | i use winSCP all the time...but i cant connect to the z |
| 05:31.24 | W8TVI | use the wifi card |
| 05:31.39 | _z0ne_jimmytango | the wifi wont connect to my network either |
| 05:31.42 | _z0ne_jimmytango | thats my problem. |
| 05:31.44 | _z0ne_jimmytango | :( |
| 05:31.47 | W8TVI | whats it doing? |
| 05:31.53 | W8TVI | are you using WEP? |
| 05:32.01 | _z0ne_jimmytango | yes |
| 05:32.06 | W8TVI | turn it off |
| 05:32.19 | W8TVI | all your networking problems will go away |
| 05:32.22 | _z0ne_jimmytango | i went through the OZ faq and it said that you need to manually enable it |
| 05:32.30 | bronson | W8TVI: good call |
| 05:32.41 | _z0ne_jimmytango | i dont exactly want to open my network up to the public |
| 05:32.42 | bronson | I agree -- I had hell with WEP too. |
| 05:32.49 | _z0ne_jimmytango | its commercial |
| 05:33.07 | W8TVI | bronson, thats the only way I could get to work on mine |
| 05:33.39 | W8TVI | sence I have a linux box, I set mine to only give out address to MACs that it knows... |
| 05:33.57 | W8TVI | and I only have a slow dialup |
| 05:34.10 | W8TVI | and I live in a really small town |
| 05:34.20 | bronson | _z0ne_jimmytango: WEP is so easy to break that you should pretty much assume you've been broken after about a week of moderate traffic. |
| 05:34.20 | _z0ne_jimmytango | hehe |
| 05:34.37 | _z0ne_jimmytango | ive heard that |
| 05:34.40 | bronson | Really, VPNs are necessary if you care about security. |
| 05:34.58 | W8TVI | Ive been thinking about trying to get ipsec working on my system |
| 05:35.14 | bronson | W8TVI: I tried that about a year and a half ago. |
| 05:35.16 | bronson | <shudder> |
| 05:35.26 | bronson | I hear it's gotten a lot better. |
| 05:36.32 | W8TVI | what i'm going to do some time is get a new motherboard and hook my ap into its own NIC on the linux box so it can only connect to the internet |
| 05:37.05 | _z0ne_jimmytango | where would i see if the Z has connected to the network or not? |
| 05:37.17 | W8TVI | terminal |
| 05:37.22 | _z0ne_jimmytango | k... |
| 05:37.28 | _z0ne_jimmytango | what file to i check |
| 05:37.30 | W8TVI | type ifconfig wlan0 |
| 05:37.33 | _z0ne_jimmytango | ahh |
| 05:37.35 | _z0ne_jimmytango | k... |
| 05:37.49 | W8TVI | well I dont think you need the 0 |
| 05:38.15 | W8TVI | no you need it |
| 05:38.16 | bronson | Or, you can enable the wireless status monitor thingy. |
| 05:38.21 | bronson | That will tell you. |
| 05:38.23 | W8TVI | ifconfig wlan0 |
| 05:38.47 | W8TVI | but ifconfig will tell you alot more about the networking connection |
| 05:38.52 | _z0ne_jimmytango | if it gives me anything does it means its working? |
| 05:39.04 | W8TVI | does it show an IP address? |
| 05:39.09 | _z0ne_jimmytango | its sent and recieved packets i guess.... |
| 05:39.10 | _z0ne_jimmytango | hold up |
| 05:39.23 | _z0ne_jimmytango | nope |
| 05:39.37 | W8TVI | do ifdown wlan0 |
| 05:39.43 | W8TVI | then ifup wlan0 |
| 05:40.20 | W8TVI | and is the DHCP server on in your AP? |
| 05:40.25 | _z0ne_jimmytango | yea |
| 05:40.43 | _z0ne_jimmytango | it said... "No lease, forking to background" |
| 05:40.50 | W8TVI | ok, its not talking |
| 05:40.58 | W8TVI | is wep still on in your ap? |
| 05:41.26 | _z0ne_jimmytango | i just checked...nope |
| 05:41.33 | W8TVI | hmmm |
| 05:41.40 | W8TVI | type iwconfig |
| 05:42.06 | _z0ne_jimmytango | what should i look for |
| 05:42.08 | _z0ne_jimmytango | ? |
| 05:42.20 | W8TVI | Encryption key:off |
| 05:42.34 | _z0ne_jimmytango | yep |
| 05:42.36 | W8TVI | does it say off or something else? |
| 05:42.44 | _z0ne_jimmytango | off |
| 05:42.59 | W8TVI | is the ESSID right? |
| 05:43.19 | _z0ne_jimmytango | yea...i had typed it in manually at the network config thing |
| 05:43.29 | _z0ne_jimmytango | but it does show the correct one |
| 05:43.34 | W8TVI | hmmm |
| 05:43.51 | _z0ne_jimmytango | it has some hex thing like this XX:XX:XX:... |
| 05:43.56 | W8TVI | what mode? |
| 05:44.03 | _z0ne_jimmytango | managed |
| 05:44.14 | W8TVI | bitrate? |
| 05:44.16 | _z0ne_jimmytango | access point : 44:44:44:44.... |
| 05:44.21 | W8TVI | hmm |
| 05:44.23 | _z0ne_jimmytango | 2Mb/s |
| 05:44.28 | W8TVI | that might be your problem there |
| 05:44.32 | _z0ne_jimmytango | ? |
| 05:44.36 | W8TVI | its not getting the AP |
| 05:44.45 | W8TVI | what brand is your ap? |
| 05:44.48 | _z0ne_jimmytango | linksys |
| 05:44.59 | W8TVI | ok, unplug it for a sec and plug it back in |
| 05:45.03 | _z0ne_jimmytango | k |
| 05:45.36 | W8TVI | now do the ifdown and up again |
| 05:45.55 | bronson | How close are you to the AP? |
| 05:45.59 | _z0ne_jimmytango | its weird cause the web administration thing is all working and the status was fine.... |
| 05:46.02 | _z0ne_jimmytango | feet |
| 05:46.07 | _z0ne_jimmytango | feet away |
| 05:46.20 | bronson | Line of sight? |
| 05:46.26 | W8TVI | what channel is your ap on? |
| 05:46.34 | _z0ne_jimmytango | 6 |
| 05:46.40 | _z0ne_jimmytango | same ifup thing |
| 05:46.49 | _z0ne_jimmytango | i was using wireless just the other day too |
| 05:46.53 | W8TVI | do ifdown wlan0 |
| 05:46.58 | _z0ne_jimmytango | so i know its not AP |
| 05:47.03 | W8TVI | then ifup wlan0 |
| 05:47.06 | _z0ne_jimmytango | ok.. |
| 05:47.14 | W8TVI | it still can be the AP |
| 05:47.21 | W8TVI | mine does it every so ofton |
| 05:47.30 | W8TVI | and mine is a linksys |
| 05:47.31 | _z0ne_jimmytango | the udhcp thing still doesnt detect it |
| 05:47.40 | W8TVI | werid |
| 05:48.08 | W8TVI | does it say Frequency:2.437GHz |
| 05:48.08 | _z0ne_jimmytango | and i know the wireless card works...cause i used to use it at my school just fine |
| 05:48.13 | W8TVI | in iwconfig |
| 05:48.46 | _z0ne_jimmytango | i dont see a freq. option thing |
| 05:48.58 | W8TVI | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:49.02 | _z0ne_jimmytango | nope |
| 05:49.09 | _z0ne_jimmytango | its mode and then AP |
| 05:49.20 | _z0ne_jimmytango | no freq in between |
| 05:49.33 | W8TVI | ok, type iwconfig wlan0 channel 6 |
| 05:49.42 | W8TVI | then check again |
| 05:50.16 | _z0ne_jimmytango | no change |
| 05:50.46 | _z0ne_jimmytango | is there a config file i should just pop all this stuff into? |
| 05:51.00 | W8TVI | not sure... |
| 05:54.27 | _z0ne_jimmytango | my iwconfig shows the freq now |
| 05:54.39 | W8TVI | now do an ifdown and ifup |
| 05:55.20 | _z0ne_jimmytango | shafted |
| 05:55.54 | _z0ne_jimmytango | the access point is just not getting found or something |
| 05:59.22 | _z0ne_jimmytango | i was just trying some stuff with the usb stuff... |
| 05:59.30 | _z0ne_jimmytango | stuff stuff stuff |
| 05:59.32 | _z0ne_jimmytango | heh |
| 05:59.50 | _z0ne_jimmytango | for some reason when i do ifdown then ifup again |
| 05:59.59 | _z0ne_jimmytango | it says network is unreachable |
| 06:00.01 | _z0ne_jimmytango | whhat gives? |
| 06:00.11 | W8TVI | dont know... |
| 06:00.15 | _z0ne_jimmytango | hmm |
| 06:00.17 | _z0ne_jimmytango | well.. |
| 06:00.50 | _z0ne_jimmytango | i think im gonna try the wireless on the sharp rom and make sure its not just broken |
| 06:00.53 | W8TVI | you've tried all the things i can think of tonight |
| 06:01.14 | _z0ne_jimmytango | cause it used to work there...then i can flash back to the OZ 3.2 |
| 06:01.25 | _z0ne_jimmytango | thanks a LOT |
| 06:01.29 | W8TVI | cant hurt too much |
| 06:01.44 | _z0ne_jimmytango | i appreciate the help so late at night |
| 06:02.03 | _z0ne_jimmytango | well... cheers |
| 06:02.05 | _z0ne_jimmytango | :) |
| 06:02.09 | W8TVI | no prob |
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| 07:29.02 | funkyjoe | halloele... habe mein buildroot-oz geupdatet und jetzt bricht der compiler nach dem cvs download von mtd ab, weil ihm zlib.h fehlt...hilfe!? |
| 07:29.27 | funkyjoe | sorry. wrong channel... |
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| 11:58.24 | Fare | hi |
| 11:58.32 | Fare | in what library is __umodsi3 defined? |
| 11:58.59 | Fare | zsh: relocation error: zsh: undefined symbol: __umodsi3 |
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| 12:00.56 | Fare | is this a gcc3 vs gcc2 issue? |
| 12:13.21 | Fare | any debian package user? |
| 12:58.04 | absentia | re |
| 13:03.51 | Fare | abstinentia! |
| 13:04.11 | Fare | absentia: do you have experience with installing/porting debian package? |
| 13:05.08 | absentia | I have installed a few debian packages |
| 13:05.10 | absentia | but I did not port them |
| 13:05.22 | absentia | I have been thinking of switching to zsh for some time |
| 13:05.30 | Fare | I'm having trouble installing zsh and other packages |
| 13:05.40 | Fare | looks like library and/or compiler mismatch :( |
| 13:05.49 | absentia | are you fist looking to see if someone has already ported/ipk'd them for zaurus ? |
| 13:05.57 | Fare | of course |
| 13:06.00 | absentia | just checking |
| 13:06.01 | absentia | :-) |
| 13:06.09 | Fare | of course |
| 13:06.15 | Fare | :) |
| 13:06.18 | absentia | I am in the middle of setting up the buildroot for zaurus on debian |
| 13:06.23 | absentia | I haven't had much time in the last month to look into it |
| 13:06.23 | absentia | :-/ |
| 13:06.30 | absentia | do you have that going ? |
| 13:06.43 | Fare | no, been moving, not gotten anything going |
| 13:06.58 | absentia | I know the feeling. |
| 13:08.00 | absentia | what error[s] are you getting ? |
| 13:08.17 | absentia | many times.. compile errors are trivial to fix. |
| 13:08.22 | absentia | although, I have seem some monsters. |
| 13:08.53 | Fare | absentia: haven't tried compiling yet |
| 13:09.03 | Fare | just playing with binaries, at the time |
| 13:09.15 | Fare | When I have time, I intend to install a full debian on NFS, |
| 13:09.24 | Fare | then mirror a cache of used files locally |
| 13:09.31 | absentia | ya |
| 13:09.35 | Fare | for use on the move |
| 13:09.36 | absentia | I have debian in virtual pc |
| 13:09.41 | absentia | but I was having trouble getting X going.. |
| 13:09.43 | absentia | but I'm past that now |
| 13:09.44 | Fare | virtual pc ? |
| 13:09.54 | Fare | your using a mac? |
| 13:10.00 | absentia | heheh |
| 13:10.01 | absentia | no |
| 13:10.05 | absentia | it's been out for the pc for years |
| 13:10.09 | absentia | I got it at beta.. for review |
| 13:10.12 | absentia | and then they gave me 1/2 off. |
| 13:10.19 | absentia | to me, it's WAY better than vmware. |
| 13:10.24 | absentia | but, unfortunately, MS just bought it |
| 13:10.31 | absentia | (to include in future versions of blows) |
| 13:10.38 | Fare | sounds good |
| 13:10.44 | absentia | darek mitchoka (whatever his name is) reamed me a new one |
| 13:10.52 | absentia | because he said I Was too stupid to know what type of computer I was on |
| 13:11.00 | absentia | when I told him I was running virtual pc on the pc |
| 13:11.04 | absentia | and he said it was for a mac only. |
| 13:11.15 | absentia | I really lose respect for people who think because they know something... they know everything. |
| 13:11.26 | absentia | anyway, virtual pc seems VERY fast.. compared to vmware. |
| 13:11.35 | absentia | the front end was also very pretty.. easy to understand, etc. |
| 13:11.38 | Fare | my ignorance is infinite. my knowledge is finite. |
| 13:11.42 | absentia | you can do "drag'n'drop" from the base machine to the virtual... |
| 13:11.47 | absentia | fare: exactly. |
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| 15:05.25 | Floof2 | how do I get opera on oz?? |
| 15:09.06 | Fare | Floof2: you copy lots of libraries, too |
| 15:16.23 | Fare | try ldd to see what libraries it uses |
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| 15:52.24 | zar | I have a feed for a oz package :) |
| 15:52.28 | zar | for opera |
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| 16:03.18 | Floof2 | how do i get opera on ox? |
| 16:03.23 | Floof2 | i mean oz? |
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| 16:13.49 | eworm | Download and install it from here: http://zaurus.eworm.dyndns.org/feed/opera6_1.5.4_arm.ipk |
| 16:14.05 | eworm | Then link the icons. |
| 16:15.30 | eworm | zar: What feed to you have? |
| 16:15.30 | TheMasterMind1 | does that ipk have libs in it |
| 16:17.29 | eworm | It includes a lot of Icons and Plugins for pdf I think. |
| 16:17.38 | eworm | No other libs. |
| 16:20.45 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
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| 16:52.13 | *** topic/#openzaurus is OpenZaurus project - now a component of the larger Open Embedded infrastructure | Developers welcome in #openembedded | http://www.zaurus.com/dev/board/index.php?s=5be76b086a395e018104222ab77fc215&act=ST&f=27&t=3668 <- cheap c7x0 with warranty |
| 16:52.13 | Floof2 | ok knowledgable |
| 16:52.22 | kergoth | right, apparently maintaining openzaurus doesnt require much intelligence |
| 16:52.30 | kergoth | nor does extensive zaurus kernel development |
| 16:52.47 | Floof2 | ok |
| 16:52.50 | kergoth | NOTE: alienating maintainers of projects isnt the way to get support |
| 16:53.18 | Floof2 | i just need someone to answer my question and obviously you're not helping any |
| 16:53.27 | Floof2 | so just ignore me |
| 16:53.30 | kergoth | i'm explaining the rules of the game |
| 16:53.39 | kergoth | which seem to fail to sink into your skull |
| 16:53.40 | Floof2 | i don't need to know the rules of the fucking gave |
| 16:53.42 | kergoth | anyone???? |
| 16:53.43 | Floof2 | game |
| 16:53.51 | kergoth | apparently you do. |
| 16:54.06 | Floof2 | please be quiet now |
| 16:54.16 | Floof2 | i aint talking to you now more |
| 16:54.21 | kergoth | no thanks |
| 16:54.23 | Floof2 | "No" |
| 16:54.24 | kergoth | i like talking. |
| 16:54.33 | Floof2 | so does my 5 year old sister |
| 16:54.33 | *** mode/#openzaurus [+o kergoth] by ChanServ |
| 16:54.36 | *** mode/#openzaurus [+b *!*stro0332@*.mn.client2.attbi.com] by kergoth |
| 16:54.37 | *** kick/#openzaurus [Floof2!~kergoth@dsl081-228-056.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net] by kergoth (kergoth) |
| 16:55.30 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 16:55.34 | TheMasterMind1 | nice |
| 16:56.01 | kergoth | i know, lets walk into a channel obviously needing help, and start insulting the intelligence of those who can help me! |
| 16:56.06 | kergoth | yay, theres an idea! |
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| 16:59.18 | absentia | I should try that some time. |
| 16:59.26 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:59.26 | absentia | nevermind that their intelligence DESERVES to be insulted. |
| 17:00.16 | kergoth | absentia: whether it does or not, alienating those who can help y ou when you obviously need help is a foolish move. |
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| 17:03.55 | absentia | (which means your own intelligence deserves insulting.... so you should just go off and mumble in the corner somewhere.) |
| 17:05.03 | kergoth | ah, gotcha. |
| 17:19.03 | absentia | do you ? |
| 17:19.13 | absentia | that you was reflexive. |
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| 17:33.53 | absentia | irc server? |
| 17:34.16 | absentia | I couldn't get bahamut to compile |
| 17:34.34 | absentia | I wrote address given that you're supposed to write to.... 3 days ago.. I ahven't heard a single respinse. |
| 17:34.36 | absentia | response. |
| 17:35.00 | absentia | bahamut .35 .36 and 1.6RC3 don't configure... let alone compile under solaris. |
| 17:35.05 | absentia | seems it's been linsuxified. |
| 17:35.23 | absentia | old hybrid compiles just fine. |
| 17:36.48 | jdh41 | more like the machine which runs my normal IRC has fallen over and is locked in a building somewhere in Cambridge where there aren't very people around to go and swithch it off to let it cool down at the minute |
| 17:39.50 | absentia | ah |
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| 17:46.44 | absentia | hahah |
| 17:46.46 | absentia | looking for glib |
| 17:47.25 | absentia | so I found gtk... gtk has screenshots.. go there, check first one which is a "typical" gimp session.. and notice the (irc?) chat has "porn" topic set. |
| 17:47.31 | absentia | too funny. |
| 17:53.42 | zar | absentia whats the link? |
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| 18:56.59 | absentia | weee |
| 18:57.05 | absentia | water flooding in the datacenter |
| 18:57.08 | absentia | life is so exciting here. |
| 18:58.11 | nofpu | better than weee flooding in the datacenter |
| 19:01.06 | absentia | how? |
| 19:09.55 | absentia | blah, fsck |
| 19:09.56 | absentia | I'm in linsux version hell |
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| 21:45.20 | eworm|zaurus | hello oz folks! |
| 21:48.23 | zar | hya eworm thanx again fer the opera package it works good :) |
| 21:49.10 | eworm|zaurus | no problem ;) |
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| 23:25.39 | zauruslover | hi e'one ! how are you'll |
| 23:26.18 | zlvr | whats been cooking here over the past week (my last week) ... any updates for the C750 ? :) |
| 23:26.26 | zlvr | s/week/visit |
| 23:27.37 | zlvr | any OZ in sight for the 750 ? |
| 23:28.44 | zlvr | ibot seen kergoth |
| 23:28.44 | | kergoth is currently on #uclibc #zaurus #elinux #openembedded #handhelds.org #openzaurus. Has said a total of 254 messages. Is idling for 20m 42s |
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| 23:33.05 | zlvr | kergoth : You'd surely be able to answer this :) ... have you had a chance to port OZ to the C750 yet ? |
| 23:33.50 | kergoth | it works on it |
| 23:33.57 | kergoth | opie doesnt yet, but i have a minimal image on this one |
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| 23:35.48 | zlvr | oooh ok ... |
| 23:36.23 | zlvr | ok ... opie doesn't yet means ... the GUI environment (Like Qtopia) would be minimal ? |
| 23:37.07 | zlvr | is www.openzaurus.org the best place to find out when the "completed" release will be available ? :) |
| 23:37.28 | kergoth | s/minimal/nonexistant/ |
| 23:37.31 | kergoth | yes |
| 23:38.04 | zlvr | hmmm ... thx :) |
| 23:38.12 | zlvr | i'll keep checking there every 10-15 days |
| 23:41.45 | absentia | re |
| 23:42.13 | zlvr | hey absentia ... whats re ? |
| 23:42.30 | absentia | re = re hi |
| 23:42.58 | zlvr | :) hi |
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