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03:48.16 | Jumpkick_ | TheMasterMind1: oops, k = down |
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04:51.27 | cleverdra | rev - I don't know of a scorched earth clone, but snails from that commercial-zaurus-game company is nice. Similar to HPWorms for the HP49G. |
04:51.50 | cleverdra | also, scroll. Nevermind. |
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05:30.40 | SoopaTRON | helllo |
05:31.30 | SoopaTRON | can someone please help me in properly loading a default image configuration |
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05:52.50 | levi_ | My attempts at switching to the 'testing' feed and running 'ipkg upgrade' have so far been unsuccessful. Is there any trick to this? |
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07:44.35 | Carkus | can anyone recommend a good VNC server that works with openzaurus ? |
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12:19.19 | eworm | I can't get my wlan-card working with the latest oz-snapshot on opie.net.wox.org. |
12:19.28 | eworm | Has anybody the same problem? |
12:21.16 | Carkus | i did have, untill i realised it used hostap =) |
12:22.32 | eworm | I know that it uses hostap. |
12:22.46 | eworm | But it can load the modules correctly. |
12:24.07 | eworm | hostap_crypt: registered algorithm 'NULL' |
12:24.12 | eworm | hostap_crypt: unregistered algorithm 'NULL' |
12:24.19 | eworm | And nothing works. |
12:28.31 | Carkus | does it work without wep ? |
12:29.28 | eworm | Nothing works. |
12:29.37 | eworm | I do not get a device. |
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13:10.26 | eworm | And the root fs ist full after a flash... |
13:10.47 | eworm | I can't install anything because ipkg can't write status-file. |
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14:28.23 | linuxguy-br | any zaurus programmer there? |
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14:57.08 | aTypical_ | hello |
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15:15.40 | SoopaTRON | good morning |
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15:18.47 | SoopaTRON | are there any proper ways to compile open zaurus for an x86 arch machine? |
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15:21.28 | DCoder | Hey all. Any chance one of guys used qhttp during his/her lifetime? |
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15:22.21 | Zxcvb | who ported scummvm (including the GUI) to the zaurus? |
15:23.23 | yeiazel | not me |
15:25.12 | Zxcvb | hoping he will update it to 0.5.0 soon |
15:25.25 | Zxcvb | it will finally support maniac mansion |
15:27.10 | yeiazel | :) |
15:28.00 | Zxcvb | yeah, especially since scumm is the script creation utility _for maniac mansion_ |
15:28.07 | yeiazel | I know Alexandre Courbot has ported it |
15:28.16 | Zxcvb | http://inter.zon.free.fr/downloads/scummvm-0.4.1-zaurus.patch |
15:28.24 | yeiazel | but I don't know if it's the "official" one for OZ or so... |
15:28.28 | Zxcvb | yeiazel: that's him? |
15:28.40 | Zxcvb | yeiazel: any idea when he will updated it to 0.5.0? |
15:28.58 | yeiazel | http://www.gnurou.org/software/zaurus/index.html <= that's him |
15:29.03 | yeiazel | still scummmvm 0.3.0 |
15:29.18 | Zxcvb | yeiazel: 0.4.1 on http://inter.zon.free.fr/downloads |
15:29.28 | Zxcvb | yeiazel: statically linked with sdl, too |
15:29.31 | yeiazel | yeah, I've seen it |
15:29.43 | yeiazel | I'd like to know who this is |
15:30.03 | yeiazel | I wanna know all french zaurus developers and users :) |
15:30.06 | Zxcvb | yeiazel: not sure, but it works fine for 0.4.1 supported games |
15:30.18 | Zxcvb | yeiazel: email him |
15:30.28 | Zxcvb | inter.zon@free.fr |
15:31.22 | Zxcvb | xu4 isn't too playable yet, btw (no dungeons among other things) |
15:31.27 | yeiazel | yea |
15:32.18 | Zxcvb | better than underworld adventures |
15:32.50 | Zxcvb | I have no idea how the pocket pc "port" of ultima underworld was done, most likely an x86 JIT combined with binary patching of the expensive to emulate instructions |
15:36.01 | djr | hehe, i still have ultima underworld on original floppy here |
15:43.06 | Zxcvb | yeiazel" Cecchinel Stephan |
15:43.51 | yeiazel | I've emailed him |
15:44.29 | Zxcvb | can you compile zaurus software? |
15:46.36 | yeiazel | never tried |
15:53.14 | aTypical_ | I'm trying to install konqueror on my Z, but I keep getting a message that it cannot find the package. Has anyone seen this before? |
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15:54.49 | noidd | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3200474&category=38331 (43 mins to go - looks interesting) |
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15:57.04 | Zxcvb | yeiazel: btw, beneath a steel sky is now freeware |
15:58.58 | SoopaTRON | anyone else having problems reaching ftp.gnu.org? |
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16:00.59 | yeiazel | SoopaTRON: www.gnu.org doesn't work neither |
16:05.40 | fishy | ugh |
16:05.46 | fishy | ipkg makes me cry :(\ |
16:06.54 | aTypical_ | fishy: It's driving me nuts too. |
16:07.30 | aTypical_ | How do you install a freakin' package? Everytime I try it tells me it cannot find the package. |
16:07.32 | fishy | its very unreliable |
16:07.57 | fishy | aTypical: try running ipkg update |
16:08.14 | fishy | are you on the unstable feed? |
16:08.40 | aTypical_ | fishy: No. I'm on the stable feed. |
16:08.51 | fishy | hmm |
16:10.09 | aTypical_ | I'm using AQpkg. I've got Stable as my server but the list of app's is empty. |
16:10.43 | fishy | do ipkg update |
16:11.15 | aTypical_ | I got it. The list was set to show only installed packages. |
16:11.28 | aTypical_ | It's downloading now. |
16:12.25 | aTypical_ | Phew! I thought I was going to have to throw this against the wall. |
16:13.45 | fishy | :) |
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16:35.48 | eworm | aTypical_: Have you tried upgrading ipkg? |
16:36.29 | aTypical_ | eworm: No, but I will. |
16:36.54 | eworm | That helped me. |
16:37.08 | eworm | Could not install some packages from testing. |
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19:07.29 | cleverdra | Where can I find the sources that OpenZaurus uses? Say, its busybox, or any patches it has to busybox. |
19:09.14 | james_lan-me | in the build-root (which you should be able to find instructions for on the website under the faq section, but that was months ago I last looked), ask someone on #openembedded |
19:09.25 | kergoth | cleverdra: openzaurus.org |
19:09.27 | kergoth | cleverdra: faq |
19:09.30 | kergoth | cleverdra: search for 'source' |
19:10.16 | osist | <PROTECTED> |
19:11.36 | Pendalar | use source cleverdra... use the source... |
19:12.21 | Pendalar | kergoth did TMM1 get an image up or still more TS fun? |
19:12.54 | kergoth | dont know |
19:21.50 | cleverdra | hum, bitkeeper. interesting choice. |
19:22.17 | cleverdra | oh, hey, a daily snapshot. |
19:23.49 | Pendalar | heh yeah that's my thought as well |
19:24.02 | Pendalar | I can cron a snapshot grab easy enough |
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19:59.00 | aTypical_ | Howdi pardners! |
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20:26.44 | cleverdra | hm, any ideas why mount complains that it can't find a free loopback device even after I unmount an '-o loop'-mounted cramfs to hopefully free a loopback device? |
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20:55.31 | aTypical_ | I'm having a problem with opie-mediaplayer. When I click the icon it doesn't start. How can I start it from the command line? |
21:04.18 | eworm | aTypical_: /opt/QtPalmtop/bin/opieplayer2 |
21:04.38 | aTypical_ | eworm: Thank you. |
21:11.33 | eworm | What's the best way to connect to the internet via mobile phone (irda)? |
21:13.50 | aTypical_ | eworm: Sorry, never tried, |
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21:42.01 | SoopaTRON | good afternoon |
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21:49.00 | TxcPoison | can someone give me a hand? I just switched my zaurus from teh sharp ROM to OZ, and I cant get qtopia desktop to detect the Z |
21:49.57 | TxcPoison | anyone? |
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21:51.25 | kryhme | is opiemail2 not a pop3 client? |
21:53.02 | Pendalar | it does pop3 |
21:53.48 | kryhme | cause in the settings it just has an option for imap |
21:55.08 | TxcPoison | does anyone use qtopia desktop to sync OZ? |
21:55.20 | kergoth | opie-mail2 is imap only |
21:55.25 | kergoth | opie-mailit is pop3 only |
21:55.36 | kergoth | qtopia desktop works fine with oz |
21:55.37 | Pendalar | oh guess I had it backwords |
21:55.38 | kergoth | readthe syncing faq |
21:55.50 | Pendalar | although works fine isn't hardly good enough ;-) |
21:56.04 | kergoth | heh, fine is a relative term :) |
21:56.09 | Pendalar | tgz or bzip2 are your friend |
21:56.11 | TxcPoison | kergoth: i did..i dunno why its not working |
21:56.14 | Pendalar | or unison or rsync.. |
21:56.21 | kergoth | TxcPoison: ftp into your Z on port 4242 |
21:56.25 | kergoth | TxcPoison: login as root/rootme |
21:56.45 | Pendalar | still bugs me the OZ login doesn't support ~!#@! type characters |
21:56.49 | TxcPoison | over usb? |
21:56.53 | Pendalar | I feel like some freak is going to root my zaurus |
21:56.59 | kryhme | haha |
21:57.01 | Pendalar | with some lame dictionary attack |
21:57.16 | kryhme | hows it goin kergoth |
21:57.55 | TxcPoison | hrm |
21:58.05 | TxcPoison | its not connecting over usb either |
21:58.08 | TxcPoison | er |
21:58.09 | TxcPoison | ftp i mean |
21:58.11 | kergoth | "not connecting" |
21:58.15 | kergoth | try giving me actual details |
21:58.17 | kergoth | instead of this fluffy crap |
21:58.18 | TxcPoison | ok |
21:58.42 | Pendalar | kergoth you sound stressed ;-) |
21:58.48 | kergoth | Pendalar: not really |
21:58.55 | kergoth | just takin it easy |
21:59.02 | absentia | kergoth, may I humbly suggest something? |
21:59.06 | TxcPoison | my zaurus has the IP 192.168.0.201, so i ftp to that IP port 4242 and it just times out |
21:59.07 | kergoth | but people expect help and dont give any information |
21:59.09 | kergoth | its pathetic |
21:59.15 | kergoth | okay, connection timed out. thats useful. |
21:59.18 | kergoth | can you ping your zaurus? |
21:59.33 | kergoth | absentia: feel free |
21:59.48 | absentia | kergoth: many many many pages refer to experimental/c700 .. now all get 404s |
22:00.00 | TxcPoison | kergoth: its connected thru the cradle tho..not a regular eth |
22:00.08 | kergoth | TxcPoison: and that matters why? |
22:00.13 | kergoth | TxcPoison: its ETHERNET over usb |
22:00.16 | absentia | perhaps put a README in there explaining the links should be updated? and then subdirs (symlinks?) to the new dirs? |
22:00.19 | TxcPoison | ok just making sure |
22:00.22 | absentia | or, if you don't care about the old info staying, just link c700 to corgi ? |
22:00.25 | kergoth | absentia: good idea. do you know what pages reference it? |
22:00.32 | kergoth | i'd rather fix the incorrect links |
22:00.46 | absentia | lots |
22:00.59 | absentia | mine did... most everyone that you hit with google "zaurus c700" |
22:01.11 | kergoth | ah |
22:01.13 | TxcPoison | kergoth: ping no work |
22:01.15 | absentia | try googling direct for /experimental/c700 |
22:01.17 | TxcPoison | times out |
22:01.18 | absentia | see how many hits |
22:01.19 | kergoth | TxcPoison: then syncing wont work. |
22:01.25 | kergoth | TxcPoison: which has nothing to do with openzaurus |
22:01.32 | kergoth | TxcPoison: follow the zaurus usb setup howtos |
22:02.26 | TxcPoison | i did |
22:02.29 | TxcPoison | ill try again i guess |
22:02.34 | kergoth | well you did something wrong then. |
22:02.40 | kergoth | is this windows or linux on the desktop? |
22:03.03 | TxcPoison | windows 2k pro |
22:03.12 | kergoth | go into control panel |
22:03.13 | kergoth | networking |
22:03.17 | kergoth | is a zaurus interface listed? |
22:03.25 | kergoth | it may be called local area connection 2 or 3 or something |
22:04.20 | TxcPoison | yeh..SL series? |
22:04.24 | TxcPoison | LAN 10 |
22:04.33 | kergoth | yes, sl series |
22:04.36 | kergoth | go into its properties |
22:04.39 | kergoth | go into the tcp/ip properties |
22:04.43 | kergoth | tell me how its configured |
22:04.47 | Pendalar | lmao I love my wife.. when she gets really mad at me and runs out of things to bitch about |
22:04.54 | Pendalar | it falls back til 'well matrix is shit' |
22:04.56 | TxcPoison | ahh |
22:05.00 | TxcPoison | autoconfigure |
22:05.01 | Pendalar | as if it is a personal attack |
22:05.03 | TxcPoison | i should set the IP yes? |
22:05.06 | kergoth | TxcPoison: bingo. you didnt follow the instructions |
22:05.18 | kergoth | TxcPoison: the sync faq tells you to hardcode the ip on the desktop side |
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22:05.28 | TxcPoison | i misunderstood what it meant by desktop |
22:05.34 | TxcPoison | i though it meant the linux desktop |
22:05.35 | TxcPoison | thanks =) |
22:05.38 | kergoth | ? |
22:05.44 | kergoth | what linux desktop |
22:05.45 | kergoth | ? |
22:05.57 | TxcPoison | in open zaurus, if you click on the opie start button, theres a desktop icon |
22:06.01 | Pendalar | he won't let you get off that easily.. run! |
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22:06.42 | kergoth | you didnt find it a little odd that it tells you to explicitly do something thats already done? |
22:07.14 | TxcPoison | heh sorry |
22:07.15 | TxcPoison | thanks tho =) |
22:07.35 | kryhme | anyone got any opinion on the best instant messaging app for oz that supports aim? |
22:07.50 | kergoth | only 2 exist |
22:07.57 | kergoth | only one of which is free |
22:08.00 | kergoth | heh |
22:08.01 | kergoth | 'best' |
22:08.06 | Pendalar | by support do you mean the company offically supports, or supports as in works |
22:08.28 | kergoth | heh, if you mean that is supported, theres only one choice |
22:08.32 | Pendalar | because tkc doesn't support OZ even if the stuff works |
22:08.35 | kergoth | since i dont count what tkc does as 'support' |
22:08.37 | kergoth | yep |
22:08.46 | Pendalar | it's magic |
22:08.55 | absentia | my gaim n longer works under freebsd |
22:08.57 | kergoth | kinkattalite works pretty well |
22:09.00 | absentia | no longer works |
22:09.08 | absentia | I get a message or two, then I hear the sound, but nothing appears |
22:09.09 | kergoth | the gaim folks will release the first version of gaim for qtopia soon |
22:09.12 | absentia | I need to find a new client. |
22:09.15 | kergoth | which is going to kick ass |
22:10.19 | Pendalar | some really bored fellow should create a msn<->irc , aim<->irc, and icq<->irc gateways.. then making some sort of opie-irc plugin |
22:10.21 | Pendalar | and be done with it |
22:10.28 | kryhme | whats the free client |
22:10.46 | absentia | since gaim crashes. |
22:10.58 | Pendalar | I don't see why one needs to get off irc |
22:11.01 | absentia | thatg way, I can also screen detach and screen attach, and not lose IMs... |
22:11.01 | Pendalar | to do IM |
22:11.05 | absentia | exactly. |
22:11.14 | absentia | I'm in im now under a screen that's not attached. |
22:13.46 | kryhme | kergoth: whats the free im client you were talkin about? |
22:14.06 | TxcPoison | hrm |
22:14.06 | kergoth | kinkattalite |
22:14.09 | TxcPoison | i can ping it |
22:14.11 | TxcPoison | but thats all |
22:14.16 | kryhme | thx |
22:14.59 | kergoth | TxcPoison: and what happens when you ftp in on port 4242 and login as root? |
22:15.24 | TxcPoison | connection refused |
22:15.49 | kergoth | OZ never refuses a connection. |
22:15.55 | kergoth | not on 4242. |
22:16.06 | kergoth | either you have a firewall blocking it, or you're ftp'ing to the wrong port or the wrong machine |
22:16.17 | TxcPoison | Connecting to 192.168.0.201 port 4242 |
22:16.17 | TxcPoison | Connection refused |
22:16.17 | TxcPoison | Delaying for 10 seconds before reconnect... |
22:16.31 | TxcPoison | well dont i need an ftp server running on the Z? |
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22:16.47 | kergoth | opie runs that ftp server |
22:16.51 | kergoth | i just told you the situation |
22:17.00 | kergoth | either you have something blocking it, or you're ftp'ing to the wrong ip or the wrong port. |
22:17.04 | kergoth | that sit. |
22:17.20 | TxcPoison | then how come i can ping it? |
22:17.32 | kergoth | how the fuck should i know? |
22:17.36 | kergoth | let me guess, you're pinging yourself. |
22:17.40 | TxcPoison | no |
22:17.42 | kergoth | that happens often enough. |
22:17.47 | TxcPoison | im pinging 192.168.0.201 |
22:17.50 | kergoth | or you HAVE SOMETHING BLOCKING IT |
22:17.55 | kergoth | what part of that did you fail to understand? |
22:17.58 | kergoth | tcp is not icmp |
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22:25.12 | TxcPoison | well i dunno why its not working |
22:25.15 | TxcPoison | port 4242 is open |
22:25.38 | kergoth | if port 4242 is open then it isnt refusing the connection |
22:26.19 | TxcPoison | well my ftp client says it is |
22:28.34 | kryhme | my house smells like farts |
22:29.00 | absentia | that's just your upper lip. |
22:30.12 | kryhme | hahaha |
22:36.37 | kryhme | do i need opie mail2 to get opie mailt to work? |
22:36.54 | kergoth | they're completely independent. |
22:36.58 | kergoth | two seperate apps |
22:39.43 | kryhme | i installed opiemail2 to sd and it crashed on opening till i fixed some sym links that i noticed were wrong from the install... opiemailt installs with no symlink errors but crashes on startup... any idea where i should be looking for bad links. its been a while since i used my z |
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22:43.07 | kergoth | kryhme: sounds like you're installing apps to a vfat card. good luck. |
22:43.44 | kryhme | so i shoulda formatted it as ext huh |
22:44.10 | kergoth | some apps include symlinks |
22:44.13 | kergoth | those apps wont work right |
22:44.47 | cleverdra | The best way to install anything is to unpack it, look at where it wants things to go, and then put it where you want them to go. |
22:44.57 | kryhme | your saying if this sd card was ext though that this would work properly |
22:45.20 | kergoth | most likely. |
22:45.41 | kryhme | clever: this is my first time using my z in 6 months... its gonna tke me a lil to get used to it again to the point to where i can do that |
22:45.54 | kryhme | kergoth: thanks for the info |
22:46.18 | cleverdra | kryhme - OK. Then just pay attention to where things go, and keep poking around until you feel that you can. |
22:47.21 | kryhme | thanks for the advice |
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23:31.31 | Kerberos | hi |
23:31.45 | aTypical_ | OK, I need help. I just flashed OZ. All went well except now it doesn't recognize my SD card. Any ideas? |
23:33.24 | Kerberos | Somebody can give me the correct steps to upgrade opie un OZ 3.2? please :-) |
23:33.56 | cleverdra | kerberose - the www.openzaurus.org FAQ worked for me. What problems are you having with it? |
23:34.45 | Kerberos | I installed O |
23:34.49 | Kerberos | OZ 3.2 |
23:35.39 | Kerberos | and when I try to do an upgrade (from console) is starts ... but in some point it stops... and don't continue, it just hangs |
23:35.43 | kergoth | just leave it |
23:35.46 | kergoth | it'll finish eventually |
23:37.40 | Kerberos | I wait 15 minutes and the Zaurus don't continue |
23:37.44 | Kerberos | let me try again |
23:38.23 | kergoth | i've seen it hang for 30 minutes before |
23:38.26 | kergoth | its an old kernel thing |
23:39.12 | SoopaTRON | kergoth, i am getting a strange ipkg error |
23:39.21 | SoopaTRON | would i be able to msg you the output message |
23:39.33 | kergoth | no |
23:39.41 | kergoth | if its too long #flood |
23:39.43 | kergoth | otherwise here |
23:39.54 | SoopaTRON | grep: /home/digital/.gnome-desktop/buildroot-oz/output/../output/ipkg.conf: No such file or directory |
23:39.54 | SoopaTRON | cat: /home/digital/.gnome-desktop/buildroot-oz/output/../output/ipkg.conf: No such file or directory |
23:39.54 | SoopaTRON | make[1]: *** [.srcadded] Error 255 |
23:39.54 | SoopaTRON | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/digital/.gnome-desktop/buildroot-oz/output' |
23:39.54 | SoopaTRON | make: *** [image] Error 2 |
23:39.58 | SoopaTRON | 4 lines |
23:43.43 | aTypical_ | I've got a really stupid question. I did a logout in opie and now can't get back in. What is the command to start opie? I tried startx but it didn't work. |
23:44.22 | kergoth | read the faqs |
23:44.29 | kergoth | that was one of the first faqs added to the database. |
23:44.39 | Kerberos | <PROTECTED> |
23:44.52 | aTypical_ | kergoth: Me? |
23:44.56 | kergoth | aTypical_: yes. |
23:44.59 | aTypical_ | Thanks. |
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23:48.43 | SoopaTRON | kergoth any ideas? |
23:51.00 | kergoth | not offhand. make SUBDIRS="packages/ipkg-x86 packages/ipkg-utils"; make image; |
23:51.38 | SoopaTRON | k |
23:54.54 | SoopaTRON | hmm.. stil nothing |
23:55.12 | SoopaTRON | kergoth, could it be because i did not setup this up properly? |
23:55.27 | kergoth | dont know, havent seen that particular message before |
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23:57.13 | SoopaTRON | stupid gaim |
23:57.24 | SoopaTRON | kergoth, did you say anything before i got disconneted? |
23:58.42 | kergoth | 18:57 < kergoth> dont know, havent seen that particular message before |
23:58.51 | SoopaTRON | k |