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| 01:01.08 | r1ch | I seem to have screwed my taskbar- what are the names of the battery and media applets that run there? |
| 01:02.11 | TxcPoison | "Battery" |
| 01:02.16 | TxcPoison | what do you mean by media? cf/sd? |
| 01:02.33 | r1ch | TxcPoison Yeah. |
| 01:02.48 | TxcPoison | "Cardmon" |
| 01:03.43 | r1ch | And what about the rotation thingy that usu under the launcher menu? |
| 01:05.39 | kryhme | opie-rotate? |
| 01:05.51 | kryhme | er, opie-rotation rather |
| 01:08.18 | r1ch | ah. awesome. thanks. |
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| 03:29.32 | br33zy | Quick question |
| 03:29.34 | br33zy | in the install guide it says: |
| 03:29.40 | br33zy | Where X is the amount of RAM devoted to system memory, and Y (if applicable) is the amount of RAM devoted to storage space. X+Y should equal 64MB for SL5500 owners and 32MB for SL5000D owners. |
| 03:30.06 | br33zy | and in the downloads for hte sl-5000 for openzaurus 3.2... there is one with 24-6 megs - that ads up to 30 |
| 03:30.24 | br33zy | zImage-5000d-24memory-6storage.bin |
| 03:30.25 | br33zy | ? |
| 03:30.39 | br33zy | does it have to add up to 32 for certain? |
| 03:34.42 | br33zy | oh well :-) |
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| 03:35.13 | r1ch | TxcPoison Hey. have a sec? |
| 03:37.10 | r1ch | I got the opie-rotation package. Its the thing that goes in the settings tab. I'm trying to find the one for under the launcher menu. |
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| 03:59.58 | ljp | hardwire |
| 04:21.00 | *** topic/#openzaurus by W8TVI -> Opie 1.0 release Party in #opie | www.tjhsst.edu/~agupta/zaurus/collie/ <-- latest opie 1 / 2.4.21 testing image. ts works, and stuff is mostly usable. sd/mmc and keyboard in qt are still broken |
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| 05:15.40 | br33zy | I want to run Solun' (an astronomy app) in OpenZaurus 3.2... Is there a JVM that I can download that will run this app? |
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| 06:26.28 | TDc_ViRUs | hey |
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| 06:34.56 | mithro | hello |
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| 06:35.18 | mithro | how is everyone today? |
| 06:40.11 | ljp | tired |
| 06:43.29 | ljp | still have jetlag |
| 06:45.21 | mithro | you in brisbane now? |
| 06:46.23 | ljp | yepeprs |
| 06:46.29 | ljp | yeppers, even |
| 06:46.39 | mithro | welcome to Australia :) |
| 06:46.48 | ljp | thx. its beautiful |
| 06:47.54 | mithro | you get used to it ;) |
| 06:49.11 | ljp | and my desk faces a window that overlooks a bunch of trees |
| 06:51.26 | AMC | 53° déjà à 8h du mat |
| 06:54.11 | ljp | I have desk, 1 suse box, 1 winxp box, phone, shelf, speakers |
| 06:55.50 | mithro | what are you working on/at? |
| 06:56.46 | ljp | working at Trolltech |
| 06:57.17 | ljp | right now, just getting things configured and such |
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| 07:15.18 | mithro | my Z just locked hard :( |
| 07:15.43 | mithro | i havnt had any problems except with this opieirc |
| 07:20.46 | ljp | current cvs version? |
| 07:21.07 | mithro | no, stable branch |
| 07:29.39 | mithro | its a bit weird |
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| 07:30.24 | mithro | the cursor is still flashing but the keys/ts dont work |
| 07:30.43 | ljp | in just opieirc? |
| 07:31.09 | mithro | yeah |
| 07:31.21 | ljp | thats odd |
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| 07:32.08 | TCMAN | hi |
| 07:32.11 | mithro | the trolls dont do a graphics card stuff? |
| 07:34.21 | ljp | ? |
| 07:37.47 | mithro | ie sharp or ati would have done the graphics card stuff for the w100, the trolls just provide the frame work? |
| 07:41.53 | TCMAN | mithro: what are you talking about ? |
| 07:42.48 | mithro | im just trying to figure out who does what in regard to qte |
| 07:45.11 | ljp | qte writes to the framebuffer, if thats what you are looking for |
| 07:45.44 | mithro | yeah i know that part |
| 07:46.21 | mithro | but the fb driver can provide acceleration |
| 07:46.25 | ljp | the kernel on the zaurus is done by sharp |
| 07:47.11 | mithro | ie the matrox-qte driver uses hd accel to get better performance |
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| 07:48.03 | ljp | aah, I dont think zaurus uses anything like that |
| 07:49.24 | mithro | yeah i know, it uses the crappy unaccel fb |
| 07:50.44 | ljp | that would be nice if they did something like that, though |
| 07:50.57 | mithro | and nobody can write an accel driver as they cant get the information they need from ati |
| 07:51.49 | mithro | the w100 does hardware mpeg/jpeg decoding |
| 07:52.34 | mithro | alpha blending |
| 07:52.52 | mithro | font rendering/antialiasing |
| 07:53.07 | metal | w100 = video hardware in the zaurus?? |
| 07:53.37 | mithro | yeah |
| 07:53.45 | mithro | in the c700 |
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| 07:54.59 | mithro | its the ati imageon 100 |
| 07:55.08 | TCMAN | what is in c750 and c760 |
| 07:55.12 | TCMAN | ? |
| 07:55.13 | metal | oh ok |
| 07:55.23 | metal | I gather there isn't anything nearly as cool in my 5500. |
| 07:55.54 | mithro | dunno whats in c750 and c760 |
| 07:57.10 | ljp | nope, sl series only has a block of wood as a display |
| 07:57.41 | metal | :'( |
| 07:57.55 | ljp | oh, then you might not want buildroot |
| 07:58.22 | ljp | hmm, wrong ch |
| 07:58.28 | metal | heh |
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| 08:24.50 | mithro | opieirc just locked my z again :( |
| 08:26.44 | ljp | I havent had problems with it |
| 08:28.14 | ljp | but I use an older version |
| 08:29.14 | mithro | hrm |
| 08:29.23 | mithro | you have a c700? |
| 08:29.44 | ljp | well, kinda. I out qtopia 1.6.2 on it though |
| 08:29.55 | ljp | I use oz 3.2 on my 5000d |
| 08:30.10 | ljp | put, not out |
| 08:33.27 | mithro | you have a c700 though? |
| 08:34.16 | ljp | for now on my desk |
| 08:34.27 | ljp | but ya, there's on ehere |
| 08:34.32 | ljp | one here, even |
| 08:34.47 | mithro | :) |
| 08:37.21 | ljp | not sure what others are here |
| 08:37.38 | ljp | just got into the office today. ;) |
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| 10:10.23 | mithro_ | does anyone here have a Z C7x0 with original rom? |
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| 13:44.29 | kyngel | Okay, question... can the Zaurus use the bottom port for both USB and serial connectivity at the same time? |
| 14:09.09 | Fare | kyngel: if it can't, maybe you can hack it so it can |
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| 14:10.31 | Zxcvb | anyone here? |
| 14:11.47 | Fare | nah |
| 14:12.52 | Zxcvb | the old scummvm patch doesn't work, crap |
| 14:13.58 | kyngel | Fare: someone on the DevNet forums is apparently doing a board with both interfaces built in. but I have no idea how I'd go about making both work at once if they don't 'just work'. |
| 14:14.22 | Fare | try |
| 14:14.30 | Fare | the USB is a bus where devices send packets |
| 14:14.54 | Fare | the serial device is just one of the devices on the USB bus -- it doesn't lock the whole of it |
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| 19:14.09 | p1tst0p | help ! my Network Settings has just gone blank ! i have no idea what happend, all the interfaces seem to have dissapeard ! i cant ping it or anyhing |
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| 20:06.14 | bobbyd | hi |
| 20:06.48 | bobbyd | how do I do control-C in a terminal window (Konsole) I tried func-c and lots of other combos but nothing seems to work. |
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| 20:19.11 | kyngel | Onscreen keyboard. :) |
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| 20:22.42 | p1tst0p | anyone on here got any ideas where all howi can get all my interfaces back ! they have all dissapeared.. please help ! |
| 20:25.32 | bobbyd | p1tst0p: you'll have to give more infomation |
| 20:25.52 | bobbyd | kyngel: the on screen keyboard doesnt appear, I'll see if I need to install it... |
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| 20:27.46 | p1tst0p | bobbyd, basically, for some reason all my network devices have dissapeard |
| 20:27.53 | p1tst0p | none in ifconfig or anyting |
| 20:28.29 | p1tst0p | only thing i can think to do is re flash, but i cant, cuz i have no network to put the files over, or a CF reader/writer ! |
| 20:29.23 | bobbyd | I would just go throught the network set up stuff |
| 20:29.42 | p1tst0p | how bobbyd, im confused, and my brain hurts ! |
| 20:29.45 | p1tst0p | lol |
| 20:29.58 | bobbyd | you may have deleted something important or uninstalled a network package, you probably need to get a CF writer and reflash... |
| 20:30.11 | bobbyd | you sure it's not your PC, is the cable connected? |
| 20:30.11 | p1tst0p | crap |
| 20:30.19 | p1tst0p | ye, the pc sees it |
| 20:30.30 | p1tst0p | but theres nothing on the Z |
| 20:30.31 | bobbyd | you using OZ? |
| 20:30.39 | p1tst0p | yup |
| 20:30.39 | bobbyd | is it windows? |
| 20:30.45 | p1tst0p | ye XP |
| 20:30.59 | bobbyd | ok, have you tried rebooting both machines? |
| 20:31.15 | p1tst0p | erm, the Z ye, not the pc |
| 20:31.24 | bobbyd | lol, do that |
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| 20:31.27 | p1tst0p | iv even done a hard reset |
| 20:33.06 | jdh41 | p1tst0p: do lsmod and see what usb modules are loaded |
| 20:33.40 | jdh41 | you could also try (after starting syslog and klogd on the Z) "tail -f /var/log/messages" and see what you get when you connect the device |
| 20:33.56 | jdh41 | (but that won't work on XP) |
| 20:34.10 | p1tst0p | usbcore, usbdmonitor |
| 20:34.45 | jdh41 | ok you have the same as I have when not conneted |
| 20:34.55 | jdh41 | let me just connect mine across usb and see what I get |
| 20:35.16 | p1tst0p | hmm, theres a few things in messages, |
| 20:35.42 | p1tst0p | netproto_rx_dropped: 0 44 0 |
| 20:36.08 | p1tst0p | netproto_recv: not up net_dev.state: 1002 |
| 20:36.25 | p1tst0p | thats scrolling quite a bit |
| 20:37.58 | jdh41 | what I get when I connect mine is: netproto_create: INDEX 0 |
| 20:38.10 | jdh41 | invoke ifup usbd0 |
| 20:38.35 | jdh41 | so looks liek you are ahving problems initiating the connection |
| 20:39.00 | p1tst0p | ifup usbd0, i get |
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| 20:39.07 | p1tst0p | could not read interfaces file |
| 20:39.20 | p1tst0p | ./etc/netowrk/interfaces |
| 20:39.33 | p1tst0p | which doesnt exist on my Z for some reason |
| 20:39.41 | p1tst0p | it was all working fine !! which is whats weird |
| 20:40.04 | jdh41 | ok interfaces just specifies the settings for ifup to use with ifocnifg |
| 20:40.17 | jdh41 | put the following into interfaces: |
| 20:40.26 | jdh41 | iface usbd0 inet static |
| 20:40.44 | jdh41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:40.54 | jdh41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:41.07 | jdh41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:41.16 | jdh41 | then try again |
| 20:41.33 | p1tst0p | k |
| 20:41.34 | p1tst0p | 1 sec |
| 20:41.59 | jdh41 | (assuming you're not using dhcp) |
| 20:45.38 | p1tst0p | thats the bugger |
| 20:45.43 | p1tst0p | its back in Network Settings |
| 20:45.55 | p1tst0p | wonder where the hell my interfaces file went ! |
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| 20:49.19 | jdh41 | it probably just got overwritten |
| 20:49.32 | jdh41 | do you want the rest of the file so you can put it back, or can you get it elsewhere? |
| 20:50.01 | p1tst0p | ill sort it |
| 20:50.03 | p1tst0p | im gonna flash it again |
| 20:50.10 | p1tst0p | cuz i dunno what went wrong |
| 20:50.25 | p1tst0p | so i may as well just get it back to just OZ |
| 20:50.29 | jdh41 | ok. |
| 20:51.25 | p1tst0p | actually i still cant ping it |
| 20:51.28 | p1tst0p | hmm |
| 20:52.11 | p1tst0p | was there a "lo" if in the interfaces |
| 20:53.31 | jdh41 | yep |
| 20:53.39 | p1tst0p | that l be it |
| 20:53.43 | jdh41 | auto lo |
| 20:53.51 | p1tst0p | could you past what it is ? i know its self explanatary |
| 20:53.53 | jdh41 | iface lo inet loopback |
| 20:54.08 | jdh41 | then to bring it up after adding it do: ifup lo |
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| 20:54.19 | p1tst0p | was that |
| 20:54.23 | p1tst0p | auto lo |
| 20:54.26 | p1tst0p | then |
| 20:54.28 | p1tst0p | iface lo inet loopback |
| 20:54.31 | jdh41 | yes |
| 20:56.49 | p1tst0p | hmm ifup lo, gives me unknown address type. |
| 20:56.51 | p1tst0p | l |
| 20:57.12 | p1tst0p | its ok |
| 20:57.20 | p1tst0p | spelt it wrong ';) |
| 20:58.28 | jdh41 | ^_^ |
| 21:01.38 | p1tst0p | all looking good |
| 21:01.45 | p1tst0p | can ping it, and it can ping ! |
| 21:02.09 | jdh41 | good, good. |
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| 21:07.36 | p1tst0p | hey, is there a web browser that can use a HTTP proxy ? |
| 21:07.44 | kergoth | ? |
| 21:08.01 | kergoth | konq can use an http proxy just fine |
| 21:08.10 | kergoth | as can every other major browser, including the console ones |
| 21:08.11 | p1tst0p | didnt work for me earlyer |
| 21:08.12 | p1tst0p | let me try again |
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| 21:26.32 | TCMAN | hi |
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| 21:50.53 | bobbyd | hi |
| 21:51.20 | bobbyd | when I install apps to my SD it complains that it cant link some dirs to root, and some apps dont work, why is this? |
| 22:02.11 | TCMAN | bobbyd: maybe you run out of diskspace on / ? |
| 22:08.50 | bobbyd | TCMAN: ahh maybe, i'll check, but should all this just work? |
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| 22:16.00 | TCMAN | it should |
| 22:16.14 | TCMAN | but even links take space in inodes and directories |
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