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| 00:03.39 | malfi | hi :) |
| 00:05.52 | malfi | I have a probably naive question: Could be possible to use this new Intel Xscale optimized compiler for windows CE to compile some zaurus apps with cygwin at least to the assembler stage (i.e. gcc -S) and then use an ARM as and linker to build the real binaries? |
| 00:08.43 | malfi | is this too unethical? ;-) |
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| 00:12.18 | JoeT | Hey folks... Anyone around that can handle an OpenZaurus/Kismet Q from an OZ newbie? |
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| 01:45.47 | W8TVI | anyone gotten gaim to work? |
| 01:46.29 | ljp | havent tried yet |
| 01:47.08 | W8TVI | so where do I get gcc3? |
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| 02:09.30 | davoid | how do I upgrade to unstable? |
| 02:09.40 | davoid | last time I tried I fuxored up my opie |
| 02:09.56 | davoid | resulting in it not starting anymore due to shared libs |
| 02:10.22 | davoid | should I go to console only-mode (i.e. terminate opie) first, then use /etc/ipkg.conf then upgrade and dist-upgrade? |
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| 02:35.07 | br33zy | Hi |
| 02:35.29 | br33zy | When I run Jeode on OpenZaurus 3.2 (the evm app), it says it can't find the libsl.so.1 library |
| 02:35.35 | br33zy | (checking if tahts it exactly) |
| 02:35.44 | br33zy | anybody knwo how to get this library or a work around? |
| 02:37.07 | br33zy | yeeah |
| 02:37.09 | br33zy | libsl.so.1 |
| 02:37.13 | stigger | the new jeode does not run on OZ |
| 02:37.27 | br33zy | is tehre anything close to it? |
| 02:37.41 | stigger | use the old one from 2.3* |
| 02:37.42 | br33zy | i heard there were other JVMs |
| 02:37.48 | br33zy | alright |
| 02:37.49 | br33zy | does it wokr? |
| 02:37.57 | br33zy | stigger: do you know where I can get it? |
| 02:38.05 | br33zy | i found this jeode from the tkc rom add-on apps |
| 02:38.12 | stigger | you have to rip it from a rom |
| 02:38.49 | stigger | tkc is based on 3.1 |
| 02:38.59 | br33zy | stigger: which rom? |
| 02:39.13 | stigger | 2.38 I got mine from |
| 02:39.51 | br33zy | stigger: ok... sorry if i'm beaing a little annoying... but where can you get it? the zsi? |
| 02:39.54 | br33zy | i think i saw it in there |
| 02:40.40 | br33zy | zsi has 3.1 |
| 02:40.48 | stigger | the ripper is on zsi the rom you can get from the sharp site |
| 02:41.01 | br33zy | do i have to install the rom? |
| 02:41.37 | stigger | hang ten |
| 02:41.48 | br33zy | whats hang ten? |
| 02:41.55 | stigger | wait a mo |
| 02:41.58 | br33zy | oh ok |
| 02:43.30 | br33zy | dcc chat |
| 02:43.31 | br33zy | alright |
| 02:45.38 | stigger | you there |
| 02:45.47 | br33zy | yeah |
| 02:45.50 | br33zy | im priv messaging you |
| 02:45.54 | br33zy | but your not answering |
| 02:45.55 | br33zy | hmmm |
| 02:46.01 | stigger | maybe firewall |
| 02:46.04 | stigger | http://www.allygray.2y.net/jeod_1.3_arm.ipk |
| 02:46.35 | br33zy | stigger: thanks a lot |
| 02:46.37 | br33zy | :-) |
| 02:46.48 | stigger | tried to be sneaky |
| 02:46.52 | br33zy | hehe |
| 02:46.52 | stigger | oh well |
| 02:46.58 | br33zy | 3k/sec |
| 02:46.59 | br33zy | but i can last |
| 02:47.01 | br33zy | :-) |
| 02:47.29 | stigger | if youve got a Zed then you havew the licence anyways |
| 02:48.22 | br33zy | Zed? |
| 02:48.30 | br33zy | i know i have a license |
| 02:48.38 | br33zy | my Z came with the sharp rom and jeode & hancom etc etc |
| 02:49.03 | stigger | you need to download the handcom apps from their site |
| 02:49.11 | br33zy | i got them alraedy |
| 02:49.36 | br33zy | hancommobileword_1.4.3_arm.ipk |
| 02:49.36 | br33zy | hancompresenterviewer_2.2.9_arm.ipk |
| 02:49.36 | br33zy | hancomsheet_1.0.0_arm.ipk |
| 02:49.39 | br33zy | i think thats all of them |
| 02:49.45 | stigger | ok I've about three different versions can't tell the difference |
| 02:49.59 | br33zy | do i have the older onces? |
| 02:50.27 | stigger | not sure I use the ones off their site |
| 02:50.44 | br33zy | which site? |
| 02:50.45 | br33zy | sharp? |
| 02:50.51 | stigger | toy got the ipk |
| 02:50.59 | stigger | handcom |
| 02:51.08 | br33zy | hmmm |
| 02:51.16 | stigger | should have been you got the ipk |
| 02:51.31 | stigger | mobile.hancom.com |
| 02:51.43 | br33zy | ok |
| 02:51.45 | stigger | follow the links and enter your serial number |
| 02:52.26 | br33zy | awesome |
| 02:52.29 | br33zy | it works |
| 02:52.29 | br33zy | heh |
| 02:52.33 | br33zy | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:52.34 | br33zy | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:52.34 | br33zy | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:52.38 | br33zy | i jsut got those though, from the site |
| 02:52.43 | br33zy | on zaurus.com |
| 02:52.50 | br33zy | the dev community section for the 5500 extra apps |
| 02:53.13 | W8TVI_ | that work even if you have an sl5500/ |
| 02:53.17 | stigger | ok yeah can't remember which worked better |
| 02:53.27 | br33zy | i downloaded both |
| 02:53.35 | br33zy | now ihave 3 different versions :-) |
| 02:54.22 | stigger | yeah I just installed them on a sd ages ago and just remount after a flash |
| 02:54.47 | br33zy | almost done with jeode! |
| 02:54.48 | br33zy | yaya |
| 02:55.59 | br33zy | transfering to /mnt/ram |
| 02:56.02 | br33zy | stigger: thanks a lot |
| 02:56.35 | stigger | don't speak too soon |
| 02:57.11 | br33zy | installing jeode |
| 02:57.33 | br33zy | it installed |
| 02:57.55 | stigger | I've got the demos if you want them |
| 02:58.19 | br33zy | they are already included |
| 02:58.24 | br33zy | i have runprismtest |
| 02:58.26 | br33zy | runquasar |
| 02:58.32 | br33zy | or are those just dummies? |
| 02:58.41 | stigger | oh perhaps they were from the 3.10 version |
| 02:59.43 | br33zy | i got those |
| 02:59.49 | stigger | if the don't run check the properties of the /opt/QtPalmtop/bin/runprimtest file |
| 03:00.22 | stigger | I have seen that the exicute bit doesn't get set sometimes |
| 03:01.53 | br33zy | hmmm |
| 03:01.57 | br33zy | Jeode started it up but |
| 03:02.06 | br33zy | java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: Prism Test |
| 03:02.07 | br33zy | hmmm |
| 03:02.10 | br33zy | guess it can't find the class |
| 03:02.12 | br33zy | wherd it go?? |
| 03:02.52 | br33zy | found it |
| 03:05.04 | br33zy | hmm |
| 03:05.06 | br33zy | oh well |
| 03:05.06 | br33zy | :-) |
| 03:05.19 | br33zy | evm works so im happy |
| 03:05.20 | br33zy | thanks |
| 03:10.46 | br33zy | can i reformat /mnt/ram |
| 03:10.49 | br33zy | while im in the Z? |
| 03:10.56 | br33zy | like unmount it then mke2ext |
| 03:10.58 | br33zy | or whatever |
| 03:17.32 | W8TVI_ | does anyone have libqpe.so.1.5.0 & libqte.so.2.3.2> |
| 03:18.17 | W8TVI_ | nevermind... |
| 03:18.24 | W8TVI_ | just noticed that I DO have them |
| 03:19.54 | stigger | sorry br33zy I don't understand what you want todo |
| 03:22.18 | absentia | re |
| 03:24.29 | br33zy | hey! |
| 03:24.32 | br33zy | quasar works! |
| 03:24.35 | br33zy | awesome! |
| 03:24.50 | br33zy | so those primtest! |
| 03:24.50 | stigger | permissions or path ?? |
| 03:25.05 | br33zy | finally! |
| 03:25.10 | br33zy | i have the zaurus sky explorer working |
| 03:25.11 | br33zy | ehhehehehehe! |
| 03:25.21 | br33zy | stigger: i had the old symylinks in so it messed everything up |
| 03:25.31 | br33zy | i remvoed them, redid ipkg-link and i was good |
| 03:25.37 | stigger | ok cool |
| 03:25.41 | ljp | sky buf, eh? |
| 03:26.14 | stigger | ljp how you liking brisse |
| 03:26.43 | ljp | its beautiful! |
| 03:27.06 | stigger | wher from |
| 03:27.18 | stigger | oops where |
| 03:27.34 | ljp | the driving is funky though, so I wont do that till I get over the panic reaction seeing cars coming on the right side of the road |
| 03:27.39 | ljp | colorado, usa |
| 03:28.09 | stigger | cool I deal with a IBMer from there |
| 03:28.43 | ljp | ahh, the Boulder IBM? |
| 03:28.52 | stigger | they don't call it the "right" side of the road for nothing |
| 03:29.18 | stigger | no idea lotus e-learning |
| 03:29.32 | stigger | I normally talk to him at home |
| 03:29.59 | ljp | I grew up within a few miles of the Boulder IBM building |
| 03:30.19 | stigger | is it big and blue |
| 03:30.59 | ljp | we used to call it 'international bubblegum machines' |
| 03:31.29 | stigger | sounds a bit to cute for big blue |
| 03:31.49 | absentia | ? |
| 03:32.14 | ljp | well, we _were_ kids, after all |
| 03:32.55 | br33zy | what does |
| 03:33.00 | br33zy | "ipkg: invalid magic" mean? |
| 03:33.09 | br33zy | shit |
| 03:33.12 | br33zy | i transferred the tar straight |
| 03:33.15 | br33zy | instead of the ipk |
| 03:33.16 | br33zy | doh! |
| 03:34.32 | stigger | anyone know anything about the charging circuits in a Zed |
| 03:34.47 | stigger | I think I've broke mine |
| 03:34.51 | br33zy | whats a Zed?!? |
| 03:34.54 | br33zy | Zaurus? |
| 03:35.04 | stigger | yeah sorry |
| 03:35.37 | br33zy | its alright |
| 03:35.38 | br33zy | hehe |
| 03:36.24 | stigger | I change mine to 100% and as soon as I take it out it drops 70, 60, 50 % |
| 03:36.33 | stigger | I get about 30 minutes max |
| 03:37.22 | stigger | as soon as I drop it in the charger it drops to 5% and I get a critical battery warning |
| 03:42.40 | stigger | no ideas then |
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| 03:46.20 | absentia | I get that same effect with a wifi card. |
| 03:47.08 | nightfire | hmm.. when I suspend OZ with apmd running, it doesn't resume... when it's not running, it resumes, but then immediately suspends again. |
| 03:47.09 | nightfire | sound familiar? |
| 03:49.09 | stigger | no really but I've read somewhere about killing and restarting apmd to resolve some of this stuff |
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| 04:00.53 | r1ch | Anyone have a decent PPP dialer out there? |
| 04:09.32 | nightfire | well i think it has something to do with the scripts apmd calls |
| 04:09.35 | nightfire | opie-alarm or some such |
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| 06:31.56 | r1ch | What's the package name for the graphical front end for kismet, and what feed is it in? |
| 06:32.06 | br33zy | its |
| 06:32.07 | br33zy | kismet-qte |
| 06:32.17 | br33zy | i think its in the zsi feed |
| 06:32.18 | br33zy | mght be wrong |
| 06:32.19 | br33zy | lemme check |
| 06:33.52 | br33zy | kismet-qt |
| 06:34.03 | r1ch | And the feed? |
| 06:34.06 | br33zy | r1ch: kismet-qt and i think i downloaded it actually :-/ |
| 06:34.42 | br33zy | yah |
| 06:34.43 | br33zy | i did |
| 06:34.49 | br33zy | in console |
| 06:35.10 | r1ch | er... what's the URL for it? I'm running OZ. |
| 06:35.11 | br33zy | use wget and then type ipkg install <the downloaded file> -d <root/ram/cf/sd/etc> |
| 06:35.14 | br33zy | here: |
| 06:35.30 | br33zy | http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/kismet-qte/kismet-qt_1.4.0_arm.ipk |
| 06:38.27 | r1ch | Thank you, br33zy. |
| 06:38.34 | r1ch | G'nite. |
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| 08:55.19 | p1tst0p | hi, does anyone know where i can grab the USB docking station drivers from the Net ? i forgot to bring my CD to work ! grr |
| 08:55.24 | p1tst0p | oops |
| 08:57.42 | yeiazel | drivers ? |
| 08:57.53 | yeiazel | oh, you should be running Windows |
| 08:58.05 | yeiazel | this crappy thing that needs third-party drivers... |
| 08:58.59 | p1tst0p | im running 2k |
| 08:59.13 | p1tst0p | and want to sync my outlook mail |
| 08:59.17 | p1tst0p | but, left the cd at home |
| 08:59.41 | p1tst0p | and the full cd is a 60mb download from the sharp site, and on out poor 128k, thats gonna take an hour at least |
| 09:00.15 | p1tst0p | *out |
| 09:00.18 | p1tst0p | *our |
| 09:00.25 | p1tst0p | i cant type today... |
| 09:33.28 | p1tst0p | anyone upgraded opie to version 1 yet ? |
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| 09:43.02 | p1tst0p | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:43.07 | p1tst0p | grr |
| 09:43.07 | p1tst0p | sorry |
| 09:53.01 | p1tst0p | is there going to be a new flash image with Opie version 1 does anyone know. |
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| 09:59.23 | Fare | any recent corgi images? |
| 09:59.42 | Fare | or working corgi dev configuration file? |
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| 11:20.52 | p1tst0p | anyone in here upgraded to opie 1.0 yet ? |
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| 12:59.37 | p1tst0p | help |
| 12:59.42 | p1tst0p | just flashed OZ |
| 12:59.52 | p1tst0p | as per instructions on, openzaurus.org. |
| 13:00.23 | p1tst0p | and after, hitting the reset button at the end, after the lights go off, i try and power it back on, and the battery light just flashes at me |
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| 13:20.18 | bipolar | hello everyone |
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| 13:49.33 | r1ch | The clock on my Z keeps resetting (doesn't stay on the current tion, goes back to jan 1 2002). How can I get it to stop that? |
| 13:53.21 | Fare | using corgi? |
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| 14:26.41 | p1tst0p | hi, what email clients are usable on Openzaurus, to Sync with Intelisync and MS Outlook ? |
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| 14:51.23 | p1tst0p | can anyone recomend a mail client that will Sync with Outlook ? |
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| 15:34.25 | Piete | anyone know whats wrong with the feeds? |
| 15:34.31 | kergoth | ? |
| 15:34.33 | Piete | I get 404s |
| 15:34.55 | Piete | ack, I thought I said hi.. sorry :) |
| 15:34.56 | Piete | hi :) |
| 15:35.04 | djr | ipkg_download: ERROR: Command failed with return value 1: `wget --passive-ftp -q -P /tmp/ipkg-xhysL8 http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/feed/Packages' |
| 15:35.07 | djr | weee |
| 15:35.24 | Piete | bingo |
| 15:36.16 | djr | use openzaurus.sf.net |
| 15:37.09 | djr | Downloading http://openzaurus.sf.net/official/unstable/feed/Packages |
| 15:37.09 | djr | Updated list of available packages in /usr/lib/ipkg/lists/unstable |
| 15:37.27 | Piete | thx |
| 15:40.30 | Piete | djr heh, it works, except now my package list is blank ;P |
| 15:40.41 | djr | not for me |
| 15:42.45 | Piete | well it updates successfuly, but its blank |
| 15:43.16 | Piete | chipX86 and the opielook feed works fine though, so its not aqpkg |
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| 16:40.04 | bipolar | The mmcda devices have a major number of 60, right? |
| 16:40.18 | kergoth | check device_table in output/ in buildroot |
| 16:40.28 | kergoth | device_table.txt is what is used to populate the /dev ramdisk on boot |
| 16:41.40 | bipolar | yep... 60,0-2 |
| 16:42.05 | bipolar | just wish I knew what was wrong with this thing. |
| 16:42.33 | bipolar | guess I'll try to find another SD card somewhere to test it. |
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| 16:42.54 | bipolar | I don't have one here, though. |
| 16:44.58 | bipolar | Well... this SD card works in a palm. So I guess it's not the cards fault. |
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| 17:42.24 | r1ch | I can't get my clock to stay properly set under OZ. What should I do to get the clock set correctly? |
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| 18:33.51 | mr_claus | hi |
| 18:34.31 | mr_claus | i use an older version of openzaurus and want to update now, can i do that without downloading the whole flash? |
| 18:36.38 | Marsupilami23 | Nice that opie 1.0 came out, but is there a updated version of libxine? |
| 18:39.58 | jdh41 | mr_claus: there are rumours that ipkg update works, however it will probably take a long time as jffs2 is a bit b0rked in the 2.4.6 kernel (apparently) |
| 18:40.13 | jdh41 | that should upgrade it I think |
| 18:40.35 | jdh41 | (but requires the Z to have access to the net) |
| 18:42.23 | bipolar | Yes... jffs2 is very very bad (compared to newer versions) in 2.4.6. Garbage colection is a horrible slowdown. |
| 18:42.38 | bipolar | I suguest you just backup your data and reflash. |
| 18:44.04 | hugh | Using Zaurus just got a LOT more expensive... see /. |
| 18:47.57 | kyngel | Bah. |
| 18:48.00 | mr_claus | i have access to the net with the Z, how i can start the upgrade? |
| 18:48.22 | kyngel | Until SCO actually WINS something in court, they'll have to pry my kernel from my cold, dead fingers. |
| 18:48.37 | jdh41 | mr_claus: if you've backed up your data then I think its either ipkg update or ipkg upgrade I can't remeber which |
| 18:48.56 | jdh41 | Ł699 sounds really quite unreasonab;e anyhow |
| 18:49.34 | kyngel | Don't forget, there's a per-CPU extra charge. |
| 18:50.10 | kyngel | For example, the room i'm in now would cost approx. (15*$700). |
| 18:50.13 | jdh41 | what do they actually claim to "own" anyhow? |
| 18:50.59 | kyngel | IP rights to Linux, as a SysV derivative. |
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| 18:57.06 | kyngel | Hmm. SCO=/.ed. |
| 18:57.30 | jdh41 | hmm, there website got overloaded? |
| 18:57.45 | kyngel | I can't get to it. |
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| 19:01.11 | jdh41 | no problems gettign to SCO here |
| 19:02.30 | jdh41 | "SCO has created the Interlectual Property Liscence for Linux in response to customer needs" |
| 19:02.34 | jdh41 | what needs? |
| 19:02.49 | bisho | hehehe |
| 19:02.56 | kyngel | We weren't getting screwed over enough. |
| 19:03.03 | bisho | I don't need to give them money |
| 19:03.08 | kyngel | Yes you do. |
| 19:03.13 | bisho | they may be talking about other people |
| 19:03.18 | kyngel | It's in their contract with you. |
| 19:03.19 | bisho | I think... |
| 19:03.21 | bisho | XD |
| 19:03.53 | kyngel | And I don't wanna hear 'I didn't sign any contract with them!', you IP-stealing criminal! |
| 19:03.54 | bisho | Hum... |
| 19:04.09 | bisho | at least "only" $32 for embedded |
| 19:04.18 | bisho | and 199 for desktops |
| 19:04.22 | bisho | hehehe |
| 19:04.24 | bisho | XD |
| 19:04.28 | jdh41 | :) |
| 19:04.37 | treke | bisho: question is, do I have to buy a server license for my smp desktop ? |
| 19:04.38 | bisho | I can't stop laughting... |
| 19:04.41 | kyngel | How 'bout if I come bring my Zaurus to them so they can remove their IP from it? |
| 19:04.45 | bisho | Probsably |
| 19:04.50 | jdh41 | so, do we get a refund + interest if they don't have the right to sell us this IP liscence in the first place? |
| 19:04.50 | treke | ah I dont |
| 19:04.54 | bisho | I have also a 2CPU machine |
| 19:04.55 | kyngel | I'll gladly sit there while they remove each line they find objectionable. |
| 19:04.57 | treke | jdh41: Yes we do |
| 19:05.06 | treke | jdh41: Right after we sue them for extortion |
| 19:05.09 | kyngel | *snickers* Yeah, right, jdh41. |
| 19:05.28 | kyngel | Obviously this 'capitalist' concept eludes you: Take the money, and run. |
| 19:05.52 | treke | "If you give us 700 dollars we wont sue you over something we wont prove to you." |
| 19:06.05 | kyngel | Since the license pertains to SCO IP that the end user already received in the unauthorized Linux distribution, the SCO license doesn’t include a media kit. |
| 19:06.15 | kyngel | So... they don't even send us a CD for our $700! |
| 19:06.18 | bisho | sound a nice bussines |
| 19:06.34 | bisho | Corleone brobably can't find one better |
| 19:06.35 | bisho | XD |
| 19:06.58 | treke | let's reason with them |
| 19:07.10 | bisho | At least RedHat is starting to fight back also |
| 19:07.15 | jdh41 | yes. |
| 19:07.26 | bisho | as well as the Deutch linux user group |
| 19:07.42 | jdh41 | to be fair, its only things with money they can sue anyhow really. |
| 19:07.48 | bisho | that forcet SCO to remove the claims from thier website until the thing was proved on the court |
| 19:07.56 | kyngel | New protest signs: "Hell No, We Won't SCO!" |
| 19:08.07 | treke | of course openzaurus has to shut down now |
| 19:08.22 | kyngel | Nobody has to shut down until SCO actually wins a case. |
| 19:08.23 | treke | since we cant redistribute linux any more |
| 19:09.09 | treke | man I couldnt make shit up this funny |
| 19:09.16 | kyngel | Heh... little do they know that I keep my 2.4.21 source on my MP3 player. :) |
| 19:09.24 | jdh41 | grin. |
| 19:09.39 | bisho | shh |
| 19:09.46 | bisho | SCO is listening |
| 19:09.48 | bisho | XDDD |
| 19:09.54 | jdh41 | so this means that without a seperate liscecne nobody can recompile thier own kernel, or am I misreading that bit? |
| 19:10.03 | mr_claus | which source i have to use if i want to upgrade to opie 1.0 on my zaurus? |
| 19:10.17 | jdh41 | (/me should really find out the facts before going and says things difiantly off the top of his head) |
| 19:10.19 | bisho | Yes... is only BINARY linux license |
| 19:10.40 | bisho | But I can't find clear if it's legal the job of linux distributions |
| 19:11.05 | bisho | They will probably need an special license, or agreement with SCO |
| 19:11.16 | kyngel | That means, by SCO |
| 19:11.29 | kyngel | By SCO's interpretation, distributing or compiling the kernel itself is illegal. |
| 19:11.32 | kyngel | As is possessing it. |
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| 19:12.05 | kyngel | Basically, SCO is licensing your right to use the Linux binaries only. |
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| 19:12.29 | kyngel | Hell with that, I'm shorting their stock as hard as I can afford to. |
| 19:12.30 | bisho | I'm going to get the latest kernel 2.6.0-pre2 from the warez site ftp.kernel.org before they close... |
| 19:12.35 | jdh41 | is this IP only in linux, or are they going to starton BSD next? |
| 19:12.47 | kyngel | ...nobody knows. :) |
| 19:13.10 | bisho | jdh41: actually is only at linux |
| 19:13.38 | MozConsumer | Has anyone upgraded OZ3.2 to Opie 1.0? I already have it at .99, should I follow the directions that went around with that version? |
| 19:13.44 | bisho | BSD is safe... but probably if they are bored they could start to look for similar code |
| 19:14.09 | bisho | hey... I found a while (0) line that is exactly identical... |
| 19:14.11 | bisho | XD |
| 19:14.47 | jdh41 | don't forget the #include lines... |
| 19:15.07 | bisho | hehehe |
| 19:15.08 | bisho | XD |
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| 19:30.58 | jdh41 | does anyone have an opie_sync ipk? |
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| 20:25.17 | br33zy | are writing graphical apps in Opie differnet then writing graphical apps in Qte/Qtopia |
| 20:25.19 | br33zy | ? |
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| 20:41.55 | nightfire | opie-sync? |
| 20:42.10 | nightfire | er. |
| 20:42.16 | nightfire | ahem. :) |
| 20:42.48 | nightfire | anyone running opie's c700 feed? |
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| 21:11.04 | br33zy | anybody know where ic an get the Wellenreiter 1.0 rc2 ipkg? |
| 21:11.19 | br33zy | the feed looks like its down adn I can't compiel grpahical apps for the Z |
| 21:17.59 | cyn2 | opie has a c700 feed nightfire? |
| 21:18.24 | cyn2 | what does compiling apps have to do with installing binaries |
| 21:18.38 | br33zy | its the only other alternative i know if |
| 21:18.40 | cyn2 | oh wellen isn't cli |
| 21:18.43 | br33zy | to get wellenreiter |
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| 21:55.47 | mr_claus | hmm, the upgrade to opie 1.0 on zaurus stops on that line |
| 21:55.50 | mr_claus | Installing qte-fonts (1:2.3.6-2i) to root... |
| 21:55.54 | mr_claus | why? |
| 21:58.17 | kergoth | let it sit |
| 21:58.19 | kergoth | it'll finish |
| 21:59.34 | mr_claus | how long i have to wait? |
| 22:00.08 | treke | until it is done |
| 22:02.32 | mewyn | dear gods i have a lot of tabs open |
| 22:03.57 | mr_claus | treke: ok, do you have done? how much time you spent for updating? |
| 22:04.14 | treke | no |
| 22:04.36 | mr_claus | kergoth: do you have done? |
| 22:04.41 | kergoth | just WAIT |
| 22:04.45 | kergoth | what part of that did you fail to understand? |
| 22:04.49 | kergoth | how long you have to wait varies. |
| 22:04.55 | kergoth | there is no set amount of time. |
| 22:05.40 | mr_claus | kergoth: in any time i want to go to bed :( and i want to see it before tomorrow morning |
| 22:05.50 | kergoth | and? |
| 22:05.56 | kergoth | nothing we can do will make it go faster. |
| 22:07.28 | mewyn | kergoth: sorry for any inconvinence last night. transformers in the local power distribution center decided to blow up :) |
| 22:07.40 | kergoth | mewyn: ack. heh, np |
| 22:08.18 | mr_claus | kergoth: hmm, i wait, dumdum, ..... , dumdum......., :) |
| 22:12.25 | mr_claus | dumdum, ........ |
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| 22:49.03 | treke | O |
| 22:49.05 | zar | hy all |
| 22:49.10 | treke | I'll have to fix that again |
| 22:49.16 | zar | hey is there a front end for dialup for cf modem cards? |
| 22:49.36 | treke | not in 3.2 |
| 22:50.03 | zar | hmm maybe ill write one. |
| 22:50.09 | zar | are ya sure? |
| 22:50.11 | treke | Yes |
| 22:50.17 | treke | There will be one in the next release |
| 22:51.58 | zar | it still works through the shell in ./etc/ppp right? |
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| 23:09.51 | r1ch | Yo- I'm still having trouble with the clock on my Z. No matter what I do, as soon as I turn my Z off it either resets the clock to January 1 2002 or remains at the time when I shut it off. |
| 23:10.06 | r1ch | How can I get my Z to maintain the correct time? |
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| 23:13.17 | zer0dB | ok I have oz 3.2 image flashed and all is working ...however I can't for the life of me remove a package ...it installs fine but AQpkg won't remove it keeps crashing? any ideas? |
| 23:18.45 | r1ch | zer0dB Eesh. How are you trying to remove the package? |
| 23:19.39 | zer0dB | yes |
| 23:20.03 | zer0dB | to free space.. |
| 23:20.27 | r1ch | *HOW* are you trying to remove the package? With dpkg or with aqpkg itself? |
| 23:22.46 | zer0dB | aqpkg |
| 23:22.53 | zer0dB | I also tried ipkg |
| 23:23.05 | zer0dB | with remove option |
| 23:23.08 | r1ch | What happens when you try with dpkg? |
| 23:23.45 | r1ch | (You shouldn't be able to remove aqpkg with itself- the fact that it's running and using its own files tends to get in the way). |
| 23:23.57 | treke | r1ch: not really |
| 23:23.59 | zer0dB | i dont have dpkg on it |
| 23:24.28 | r1ch | Sorry- brain fart. Ipkg is right. |
| 23:24.38 | treke | r1ch: Thanks to linux being a well written system, it doesnt have any problems with you deleting a file that is in use |
| 23:24.48 | zer0dB | i don't want to remove aqpkg I want to remove for example 'less' |
| 23:25.11 | zer0dB | a package that i installed |
| 23:26.08 | r1ch | Oh. I get it. It sounded to me like you were trying to remove aqpkg... |
| 23:26.22 | zer0dB | no..no |
| 23:26.24 | r1ch | What does the verbose output from aqpkg say about the removal? |
| 23:26.46 | zer0dB | aqpkg just disapears |
| 23:26.54 | zer0dB | when I try to remove a pkg |
| 23:27.06 | zer0dB | seg fault or crash |
| 23:27.15 | zer0dB | don't know |
| 23:27.41 | r1ch | The behavior may tell you what's wrong with it. |
| 23:27.53 | zer0dB | explain |
| 23:28.16 | r1ch | Try running aqpkg from the command prompt- that way, stderr will go to the terminal window and you can see the errors. |
| 23:28.33 | r1ch | Also, tried rebooting? |
| 23:28.49 | zer0dB | I did try reboot |
| 23:29.13 | r1ch | How much RAM is available? |
| 23:29.56 | zer0dB | that's another thing |
| 23:30.22 | r1ch | There may not be enough RAM for it to run. |
| 23:30.44 | zer0dB | my internal memory has 30M left |
| 23:30.49 | r1ch | Something else you can try is to quit opie and use ipkg from the command line- that'll save a bunch of ram. |
| 23:31.01 | r1ch | What's ipkg say when you try to remove something? |
| 23:31.01 | br33zy | hehe |
| 23:31.03 | br33zy | thats waht i do |
| 23:31.04 | br33zy | :-) |
| 23:31.04 | zer0dB | internal storage /dev/root only 500K left |
| 23:32.08 | r1ch | Check your temp directory anc clean it out. You may have to crawl your file system by hand and find stuff you don't need. Like old ipk files or docs or mp3s or whatever. |
| 23:32.46 | r1ch | br33zy Ever fought with the Z's clock? I can't get the thing to maintain the proper time to save my life. |
| 23:33.13 | zer0dB | I try ipkg remove <file>arm.ipk but syay no pkg installed |
| 23:33.15 | mewyn | it used to be a problem with atd not running |
| 23:33.45 | br33zy | r1ch: heh |
| 23:33.49 | br33zy | zer0dB: what is it on? |
| 23:34.00 | br33zy | i think oyu jut have to sepcify the package |
| 23:34.05 | br33zy | ipkg remove opie-clock |
| 23:37.25 | r1ch | br33zy- you're jerking my chain, right? |
| 23:37.54 | r1ch | mewyn I don't think atd is even installed? |
| 23:39.57 | r1ch | Nope. ATD isn't installed. |
| 23:42.02 | mewyn | don't know if that's current or not, i was having that problem a long time ago |
| 23:42.15 | zer0dB | what is it on? you mean medium? |
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| 23:43.16 | zer0dB | i tried to specify the pkg |
| 23:43.30 | zer0dB | but no matter what I try it says not installed |
| 23:43.59 | zer0dB | what dir is the pkg's installed? |
| 23:45.34 | zer0dB | I guess I have to flash again? |
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