| 00:03.53 | prh | hmmm the snapshots would appear to be being updated... "buildroot-oz.snapsho..> 12-Aug-2003 15:18 3.3M tar archive" |
| 00:05.26 | kergoth`bbl | tarball is updated |
| 00:05.34 | kergoth`bbl | doesnt mean the bk tree it was built from was current |
| 00:05.43 | prh | Ahhh yea |
| 00:06.02 | kergoth`bbl | try the one in official/snapshot |
| 00:06.05 | kergoth`bbl | instead of snapshot |
| 00:06.06 | kergoth`bbl | just uploaded one |
| 00:06.12 | kergoth`bbl | er still uploaading actually |
| 00:06.34 | prh | hehe |
| 00:06.51 | kergoth`bbl | buildroot's grown |
| 00:06.52 | kergoth`bbl | heh |
| 00:06.58 | kergoth`bbl | bigger than i expected |
| 00:07.09 | kergoth`bbl | prh: k, done |
| 00:07.13 | prh | ta |
| 00:09.44 | prh | kergoth`bbl: Ahhh - thats better :O) |
| 00:12.40 | prh | kergoth`bbl: hmm sdmmc support is not default? is there a different support for htis now? |
| 00:12.41 | KingRobot | George-: 2.4.18 working ok on SL-5500 |
| 00:13.08 | kergoth`bbl | prh: hm? |
| 00:13.33 | prh | " [ ] sdmmc (Lineo's binary sd/mmc module and daemon) (NEW) " |
| 00:13.38 | prh | should I not enable that? |
| 00:14.37 | kergoth`bbl | go ahead |
| 00:14.43 | kergoth`bbl | EVERYTHING defaults to disabled |
| 00:14.46 | kergoth`bbl | this is what def-configs is for |
| 00:14.51 | kergoth`bbl | copy a default config thats appropriate |
| 00:15.07 | prh | ok ta |
| 00:15.25 | prh | whats airjack? (http://sourceforge.net/projects/airjack/ is down) |
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| 00:25.00 | George- | KingRobot: thanks |
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| 00:29.23 | TxcPoison | how do i restart the network in oz? does clicking ok in network settings automatically do it? |
| 00:34.14 | TxcPoison | found it |
| 00:34.16 | TxcPoison | thanks anyways |
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| 00:44.05 | George`ZZzz | 'nite all |
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| 00:58.49 | prh | hmmm is treke.net down? |
| 00:59.05 | knoppix | i can't access it |
| 00:59.24 | prh | pah |
| 00:59.27 | knoppix | i've been trying for several hours |
| 01:17.24 | huber | heh, funny you mention that. I can't seem to get to it either... |
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| 02:46.04 | knoppix | f |
| 02:46.50 | W8TVI | G! |
| 02:47.13 | nerdboy | GNU! |
| 02:47.27 | W8TVI | Gnu is Not Unix |
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| 02:51.23 | enki | you know |
| 02:51.44 | enki | im really starting to get annoyed by gcc 3.3.1 and its whole "missing terminating " character on line foo" error |
| 02:52.02 | enki | ive ran into that one ... too many times |
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| 02:59.12 | kdm_ | anyone around? |
| 03:04.03 | enki | sup kergoth |
| 03:04.23 | enki | the buildroot is error'ing out on the kernel build ... :/ |
| 03:05.58 | enki | http://psylinx.net/buildroot-make.log |
| 03:06.03 | enki | if you want to check it out for yourself |
| 03:07.07 | kergoth | odd,k i havent seen that one before |
| 03:07.10 | kergoth | s/k// |
| 03:07.29 | enki | any thoughts? |
| 03:08.01 | enki | btw...im using the 3.3.1 gcc toolchain on knoppix linux, building for a c760 |
| 03:08.22 | kergoth | a shepherd kernel will almost certainly fail |
| 03:08.32 | kergoth | the only kernel in our builds that'll build with 3.3 is 2.4.21 for collie |
| 03:08.34 | kergoth | the rest need 2.95.x |
| 03:08.42 | enki | bummer |
| 03:08.45 | kergoth | you can build userspace iwth 3.3 if you want, but tell buidlroot you have a 2.95.x too |
| 03:08.52 | kergoth | and leave 'use 3.x for kernel builds' disabled |
| 03:09.26 | enki | can i just dl the 2.95.x toolchain and do it that way? is that what you mean? |
| 03:09.38 | kergoth | .. |
| 03:09.40 | kergoth | what? |
| 03:09.43 | kergoth | you download 2.95.3 |
| 03:09.45 | kdm_ | is there any known issues with latest oz snapshot? |
| 03:09.46 | kergoth | extract it in /usr/local/arm |
| 03:09.49 | kergoth | now you have _two_ toolchains |
| 03:09.53 | kergoth | both 3.x and 2.95.s |
| 03:09.56 | kergoth | s/s/x/ |
| 03:10.00 | kergoth | go into buildroot build options |
| 03:10.05 | kergoth | tell it you have both 3.x and 2.95.x avail |
| 03:10.21 | enki | excellent, thanks |
| 03:10.22 | kergoth | then you can decide what you want built with 3.x and what you dont. |
| 03:11.37 | huber | hey kergoth, i found the control.sh script you referred to. (and the instructions). unfortunately, I realized that the image I built was out of date (was the snapshot, which I think was old...) |
| 03:12.07 | kergoth | i uploaded a newer snapshot to official/snapshot/ |
| 03:12.12 | kergoth | since the snapshot/ one seems old |
| 03:12.54 | huber | okay, I just grabbed bk and pulled a tree from the repository...unfortunately treke.net (aparently the source for kernel-headers-2.4.18.tar.bz2) is down...sigh |
| 03:14.46 | George`ZZzz | blarg! |
| 03:15.18 | huber | i also managed to find two different procedures for flashing the 5600...one involving 10 image files to be placed on the flash card... what's up with that? |
| 03:15.32 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:15.34 | kergoth | like i said before |
| 03:15.38 | kergoth | there are two possible ways of flashing it |
| 03:15.42 | huber | right... |
| 03:15.42 | kergoth | one uses updater.sh |
| 03:15.45 | kergoth | one uses updater.pro |
| 03:15.56 | kergoth | updater.sh gives you more control now that we are able to decode it |
| 03:16.20 | huber | ah, cool. i was wondering how it was "encrypted" ;) |
| 03:16.39 | kergoth | read encsh.c |
| 03:16.41 | kergoth | on openzaurus.org |
| 03:16.44 | kergoth | official/experimental/ |
| 03:16.49 | kergoth | that encodes/decodes it |
| 03:16.54 | kergoth | its just a shell script |
| 03:17.35 | huber | i'll take a look...thanks |
| 03:18.50 | kergoth | np |
| 03:19.07 | kergoth | you can just make an empty 'exec /sbin/sulogin' script if you need to debug the flash process |
| 03:19.13 | kergoth | or if you ant to flash it manually using the tools yourself |
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| 03:22.23 | huber | lol, nice encrytion. heh. |
| 03:22.52 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:26.05 | huber | so, one last question (for now... :). what's the mversion file? |
| 03:26.44 | kergoth | not sure |
| 03:26.46 | kergoth | read updater.sh |
| 03:26.49 | kergoth | see what it doesw with it |
| 03:27.39 | huber | looks like it overwrites the some sort of "Master version" information. I guess something which is not too common. |
| 03:28.04 | kergoth | doesnt the diags tool show some sort of 'rom version'? |
| 03:29.26 | huber | i'm not sure which diags you refer to? the maint menu? |
| 03:29.37 | huber | btw, thanks for the info...I gotta run |
| 03:29.39 | kergoth | nah, theres a diagnostics menu |
| 03:29.41 | kergoth | independent of maint |
| 03:29.46 | kergoth | for things like testing aspects of the unit |
| 03:29.49 | kergoth | for sharp service centers |
| 03:29.53 | huber | ah, okay |
| 03:29.58 | kergoth | it can do a low level nand flash backup/restore also |
| 03:30.00 | kergoth | k, later |
| 03:30.33 | huber | you may want to tell whoever owns treke.net that it's unreachable. :) |
| 03:30.46 | kergoth | he knows |
| 03:30.58 | huber | okay, cool. |
| 03:30.59 | huber | later |
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| 04:19.36 | W8TVI | imk: what was the url to the kismit you complied? |
| 04:19.44 | djr | http://inexistent.ath.cx:8182/zaurus/ |
| 04:19.53 | W8TVI | ty |
| 04:20.21 | djr | np |
| 04:31.43 | W8TVI | hey djr: how did you say you got it working? |
| 04:32.23 | djr | i have to run kismet_server first, then run kismet... if i just run kismet... it will try and run the UI before the server finishes loading... causing the server to start but not the UI... so i just run the server first and then kismet |
| 04:32.30 | djr | its always been like that for me, even with the older kismets |
| 04:32.49 | W8TVI | k |
| 04:37.04 | W8TVI | forget ti install libpcap |
| 04:37.07 | W8TVI | lol |
| 04:40.47 | W8TVI | ok... now how come kismet is not in color? |
| 04:43.53 | W8TVI | ah... nm |
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| 05:17.09 | Dr-Proton | do I need to install some package manager? |
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| 07:05.42 | W8TVI | night all |
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| 15:01.22 | irvined | which xmms package should I use? |
| 15:01.38 | irvined | i can't actually see one in the package tree, but i'm obviously missing it somewhere. |
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| 15:33.03 | George`Coding | wtf |
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| 15:40.31 | liyang | irvined: which Zaurus? |
| 15:40.55 | liyang | (oh hang on, this is #oz...) |
| 15:42.08 | liyang | I don't suppose anyone could give me a quick OZ status update for the 5600/Poodle? |
| 15:42.25 | George`Coding | yes, it's non-existant |
| 15:42.25 | George`Coding | :) |
| 15:42.31 | George`Coding | afaik |
| 15:42.46 | George`Coding | unless you build it from buildroot |
| 15:42.47 | George`Coding | I think. |
| 15:43.06 | liyang | Any pointers in that direction? |
| 15:43.28 | George`Coding | ? |
| 15:43.30 | George`Coding | I'm a bit busy |
| 15:48.06 | liyang | oh, it involves bk. |
| 15:48.11 | liyang | arse it. |
| 15:50.46 | George`Coding | no it doesn't |
| 15:50.52 | George`Coding | ibot oz snapshot |
| 15:50.52 | | methinks oz snapshot is http://openzaurus.sourceforge.net/snapshot/ or updated every 4 hours by Navi or this is a snapshot of the bk oz buildroot tree use it to compile your own OZ if you don't want to use BK |
| 15:52.54 | liyang | hm kay. Is that known to work on 5600 or not? For what value of `work'? |
| 15:59.01 | George`Coding | no idea |
| 15:59.09 | George`Coding | I don't have a poodle machine |
| 15:59.12 | George`Coding | I only have collie |
| 16:03.38 | George`Coding | hi kergoth |
| 16:13.06 | liyang | Maybe I'm in the wrong timezone or something. |
| 16:14.25 | George`Coding | liyang: wait for about 7pm BST |
| 16:14.47 | liyang | I would like to go home at some point though. (no network there. bah.) |
| 16:15.44 | George`Coding | heh |
| 16:16.10 | George`Coding | you could try #zaurus? |
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| 16:36.54 | prh | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:37.36 | prh | liyang: that snapshot is not updating.... use /official/snapshot |
| 16:38.51 | liyang | prh: /snapshot seems to have the right timestamp on it... |
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| 16:39.43 | prh | liyang: yea but it's not generated from an uptodate export... |
| 16:40.07 | liyang | I see :) |
| 16:41.51 | liyang | I just got my 5600 on Monday, but I couldn't find any solid documentation on getting the thing up and running... |
| 16:42.06 | liyang | Maybe I should write something. :D |
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| 18:18.11 | Zxcvb | is anyone here? |
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| 18:29.27 | irvined | liyang: openzaurus i cant see an xmms package at all |
| 18:31.29 | liyang | I'm not actually running OZ at the minute (stuck on a 5600), but I grabbed my copy from http://xmms-embedded.sourceforge.net (not the latest version) Make sure you get zlib as well, otherwise it just crashes on startup attempting to allocate a good 500MB of memory... |
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| 18:59.56 | tboc | hi |
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| 19:35.37 | redtoade-w | anyone having sound problems with oz 3.2 (5500)? |
| 19:36.02 | redtoade-w | [could be opie 9.3 problems] |
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| 19:49.09 | KingRobot | What are the problems? |
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| 19:58.00 | bryan | yo anyone have trouble with irda transfers after you put openzarurus on your 5500? |
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| 22:48.33 | enki | hi all, buildroot is breaking on me at libpcap ... i have the output at: http://www.psylinx.net/make-buildroot.log if anyone wants to take a look at it. thanks. |
| 22:50.09 | George`Coding | enki: hang on |
| 22:50.18 | enki | np |
| 22:51.28 | George`Coding | enki: run automake --version and autoconf --version for me? |
| 22:51.56 | George`Coding | ibot oz snapshot |
| 22:51.57 | | rumour has it, oz snapshot is http://openzaurus.sourceforge.net/snapshot/ or updated every 4 hours by Navi or this is a snapshot of the bk oz buildroot tree use it to compile your own OZ if you don't want to use BK |
| 22:52.34 | enki | automake (GNU automake) 1.4-p6 |
| 22:52.34 | enki | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:53.03 | George`Coding | ARGH |
| 22:53.09 | George`Coding | your automake is hideously out of date |
| 22:53.14 | George`Coding | get automake 1.7 |
| 22:53.20 | kergoth | ehh? |
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| 22:53.22 | enki | k |
| 22:53.22 | kergoth | uh, george |
| 22:53.32 | kergoth | buildroot builds its own auto*, generally |
| 22:53.34 | kergoth | and uses those |
| 22:53.44 | kergoth | enki: output/staging/build/bin/automake --version |
| 22:54.06 | George`Coding | kergoth: woot, I thought it used the system automake |
| 22:54.14 | George`Coding | ok, forget what I just said :) |
| 22:54.29 | enki | there's no automake there ... |
| 22:54.33 | kergoth | it used to, until we got tired of working around the fact htat every distro version handles the differing auto* versions differently |
| 22:54.35 | George`Coding | ok, that's his problem. |
| 22:54.36 | kergoth | then enable it |
| 22:54.39 | kergoth | make menuconfig |
| 22:54.42 | George`Coding | enable automake in make menuconfig |
| 22:54.43 | kergoth | host build tools |
| 22:54.46 | George`Coding | kergoth: damn, you beat me to it |
| 22:54.48 | enki | ls output/staging/build/bin/ |
| 22:54.48 | enki | ipkg-build ipkg-compare-versions ipkg-deb-unbuild ipkg-make-index ipkg-make-index.py ipkg-unbuild ipkg.py mkfs.jffs2 setup.py |
| 22:54.55 | enki | okie |
| 22:55.20 | enki | they're both checked already |
| 22:55.45 | pasky | hi .. i've met quite a nasty problem just before a while with oz at sl5500 .. I was installing quite a lot of packages through aqpkg into the "local" source (which is on a CF card), and it decided to probably upgrade libqte2 or so.. |
| 22:56.04 | kergoth | .. |
| 22:56.08 | kergoth | the problem being..? |
| 22:56.08 | pasky | the thing is, it uninstalled it from the "root" source (the flash) and installed it into the local source |
| 22:56.16 | kergoth | uh |
| 22:56.27 | kergoth | i hope oyu mean dest. |
| 22:56.31 | pasky | and that effectively made opie not to run at all anymore, of course, since it couldn't found the library |
| 22:56.32 | kergoth | src is a feed location |
| 22:56.36 | kergoth | dest is an install path |
| 22:56.39 | pasky | ah yes destination of course, sorry |
| 22:56.47 | kergoth | odd |
| 22:56.59 | pasky | btw i'm using everything from stable |
| 22:58.14 | George`Coding | there is no "local" dest... there's a "local" source though.. I'm confused ;) |
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| 23:00.01 | enki | well ... i have automake and autoconf both checked , when i ran make menuconfig ... |
| 23:00.15 | enki | so im guessing this is one of those Things That Shouldnt Be Happening ... |
| 23:00.22 | kergoth | enki: vi packages/libpcap/config.in |
| 23:00.35 | kergoth | ensure AUTOCONF and AUTOMAKE are on the 'depends on' line |
| 23:00.39 | kergoth | if not, add them, && seperated |
| 23:00.41 | kergoth | then rm .depends |
| 23:00.42 | kergoth | then make |
| 23:00.58 | enki | ok |
| 23:01.09 | enki | .depends from the packages/libpcap dir? |
| 23:01.38 | enki | they werent in there |
| 23:02.17 | enki | the .depends form buildroot root.. |
| 23:02.55 | kergoth | there's only one .depends |
| 23:02.58 | kergoth | at toplevel |
| 23:03.07 | enki | yeah ... cut me some slack, this is my first time through :) |
| 23:04.02 | enki | this is a pretty complex system you have set up ... reminds me of bsd ports meets linux kernel config |
| 23:04.18 | George`Coding | enki: that was a stupid thing to say.. kergoth cuts NO ONE slack :) |
| 23:04.42 | enki | bummer |
| 23:06.47 | enki | ok now the automake make in output/staging/build/bin is 1.7.3 ... but some error |
| 23:07.51 | enki | autoconf 2.57 also |
| 23:09.18 | enki | some=same |
| 23:24.52 | enki | well uhhh. ... any thoughts or ideas? suggestions? flames? hatemail? |
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| 23:31.06 | brunes | hey all.. I am trying out an image from unstable.. 3.2.5rc2. When I go into the wireless config and change values, they dont save. Anyone know about this / how I can fix it? |
| 23:31.16 | brunes | what file does that config page modify anyways? |
| 23:34.22 | kergoth | it modifies /etc/network/interfaces |
| 23:35.03 | brunes | it doesnt seem to save anything |
| 23:36.52 | brunes | hrm, the data is in the file, but under the lo interface.. |
| 23:40.00 | kergoth | yeah, known bug |
| 23:40.03 | kergoth | not sure when it got fixed |
| 23:40.06 | kergoth | but it was |
| 23:40.14 | kergoth | move the entries where they belong and things shoudl work |
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| 23:46.06 | enki | hmmm |
| 23:46.29 | enki | is the buildroot maybe not using the automake and autoconf from output/staging/build/bin ? |
| 23:46.36 | enki | since the output didnt change at all ... |
| 23:46.47 | enki | or is the configure.in for libpcap really messed up? |
| 23:50.17 | brunes | man I dont know whats with OZ and my wifi |
| 23:50.46 | brunes | it just willnot pick up the network..... but if I set it to "ad0hoc", it works. But because its not ad-hoc I cant do tcpip |
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| 23:54.41 | brunes | what version of the iw tools does OZ come with? |
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