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02:37.45George`ZZzzg'night all
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03:16.39RahlAny reason all of networking on a Zaurus would disappear randomly? :)
03:16.45RahlAnd if so, what's a good way to fix it?
03:17.17STrRedWolfIncluding USB networking via the cradle?
03:17.19RahlAnd under network settings when i press 'add' it says "Nothing to add."
03:17.27Rahlusb networking, and wireless, it's just not there.
03:17.42STrRedWolfDid you just recently remove some stuff?
03:17.49Rahlnope
03:17.59STrRedWolfStrange.
03:18.02RahlI was ssh'd in
03:18.11Rahland did a wget
03:18.16STrRedWolfI'm just trying to get the Email app working.
03:18.27cleverdrausb networking on many roms is ignored by the networking applications.  It ought to just work.
03:18.28Rahland then i let it idle a bit, after wget failed (not enough space)
03:18.31Rahland it is now blanked
03:18.44STrRedWolf3.10 based ROMS ignore it in the email app.
03:19.29RahlWhen i plug it into the usb cradle winblows doesn't even recognize the new device
03:19.47STrRedWolfReboot the device.
03:20.51Rahlhave done
03:21.13Rahleh, it recognizes it now
03:21.25Rahlbut it still wont' sync with qtopia desktop
03:21.33Rahland i can't ping it.
03:24.31Rahloh well, i'll just reflash it later, :p
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03:29.32CoupHey guys! Just got back from my round the world trip.  My Zaurus, coupled with a bunch of SD and CF cards running OZ proved stable enough for me to write emails, edit and upload photos, work on a few projects for work (php based), do expense tracking, and play a whole bunch of games on bus/plane/train journeys.  Had to make a few random restarts, but all in all, it was top, saved me having to take a laptop :)
03:29.49Coupoh, period of time was just shy of 8 months
03:31.03Coupgutted that, in my last 10 days, my bag was stolen from barcelona bus station, with Zaurus, cards & camera (plus passport, plane tickets, etc) in it.
03:31.20ljpfrickin barcelona
03:31.34Couptime to start saving for a replacement :( still, at least theyve come down in price and/or i can get a newer model i spose
03:31.34ljpthat sucks
03:31.37Coupyup
03:31.45Coupbag snatch in a bus station, pretty sucky
03:31.49ljpif you can afford it, get a c7xxx
03:32.34Coupespecially as i have the cradle, power adaptor, etc here, and it was quite customised (if they take the SD out, theyre screwed), the muppet who has it now has 2 hours of battery life, and a palmtop he likely cant understand/use
03:32.47Coupany idea what kind of price im looking at for one ljp?
03:33.51Coupwhats most annoying is the loss of about 500 digital stills (some backed up, fortunately), and a DV tape in the video camera of my safari in south africa - grrrrrrrrr
03:33.53ljpits pricey http://www.dynamism.com/zaurus7xx/pricing.shtml
03:34.11ljpouch
03:34.56Coupouch 600us plus
03:34.57Coup:(
03:35.10Coupnot going to be soon then
03:35.42koyotedynamism is the most expensive importer
03:35.42ljpyou can get a 5500 for cheap
03:36.13koyotethere are at least two other cheaper. one will do cheaper in quantity if you can get a group together.
03:36.18Couphmm, expansys UK has reconditioned SL5500s for 178+vat (gbp)
03:36.28Coupthat might be doable once ive been back at work for a month
03:36.51ljpthat seems ok
03:36.53koyotethe only problem with the 750 (what I own) isw that the software people haven't cuaght up yet
03:37.02Couphehe
03:37.03koyoteno hybrid, no oz, no toolchain.
03:37.17Coupget coding/compiling :)
03:37.21koyoteand all the thrid party apps are vertical format only.
03:37.39koyoteI have a pretyt decent skillset, but it's not centered on linux porting
03:38.02Coupi know the feeling
03:38.08koyoteI realize the answer to every problem is for everyone to learn to program and write their own, but .. work doesn't leave me time
03:38.22Coup:)
03:38.31koyote:)
03:38.46Coupi seem to get jammed either coding win32, win64 or php scripts now-a-days myself - ugh
03:39.00koyoteit's just such a standard answer, sometimes.... it's a bit much.
03:39.02koyoteah
03:39.13koyotemy world of pain right now is ksh and jumpstart and network tuning
03:39.21Coupone of the guys and i are slowly trying to implement all our libraries (win32/64) into standard C and then try building our apps in linux
03:40.16koyotecool
03:40.41Coup:) i have managed to get a quad itanium, with 4gb of ram, running debian at the office though - machine was donated to us by FujitsuSiemens / Intel about a year ago, to test our win64 apps, but we dont need it anymore
03:40.53Coupmost over specced internal webserver ive ever used :)
03:40.59koyotehehehe
03:44.04Coupokely dokely, i gotta hit the sack, almost 5am!
03:44.23Coupif anyone is selling a nice cheap zaurus, drop me a line on gav@gicarey.34sp.com :)
03:44.37Coupmeanwhile, im gonna steal the misses Psion5 and try installing linux on it :)
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03:51.19CAMCAMCoup: 5mx or netBook are better for Linux. The 5 is no more supported by psionlinux eq no more dev
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06:42.39prhbah  - buildroot is complaing that "*** These critical programs are missing or too old:gcc
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10:13.22ericshello all
10:14.04ericsi am doing my best to get the 3.2 open zaurus running with and SD card (yes I have read the manuals on web)
10:14.10ericsI am trying for 3 days now....
10:14.32ericsI have lost my mmcda1 partition so have been trying to format the /dev/mmcda as an ext2 partion
10:14.50ericsfdisk errors out, but mkfs.{ext2|vfat} work fine
10:15.07ericsvfat can be mounted rw, but will change to ro and not let me use it as filesystem
10:15.17ericsext2 will not mount
10:16.04ericsit is a Smart Secure Digital SD card, 256 MB
10:16.30ericsis this for here or devel channel?
10:18.49ericsI am running the 3.2 OpenZaurus (SL-5500 40-24 kernel)
10:19.11ericsanyone have any ideas on how to make this work?
10:27.51ericsanyone awake?
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20:02.02timothyhello.
20:02.52timothyCan anyone help w/wireless connectivity?  I have a NetGear MA701 that I can't get working on my wireless lan.
20:03.03W8TVII haveo n of those
20:03.10W8TVIone of those
20:03.14W8TVIwhat you running?
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20:04.25timothyI'm running openzaurus 3.2
20:04.43W8TVIwhat opie are you running?
20:04.53timothyuh.  not sure.  how do I check?
20:05.22W8TVIthats fine then
20:05.42timothyI guess whatever came w/oz 3.2
20:05.51W8TVIyep
20:06.04timothyis there a newer version that might help?
20:06.07W8TVIok, how do you have your AP setup? WEP?
20:06.11W8TVInot really
20:06.18W8TVIbut there is a new version
20:06.45W8TVIif your using wep, you will have problems
20:06.56timothyI've tried going through Settings->Network.
20:07.04W8TVIwhat do you get?
20:07.07timothyoh.  yeah, my housemate set up his airport to do wep.
20:07.28W8TVIunless you can get him to turn off wep, your out of luck
20:07.28timothyWell, I'll configure it as I think it should be done.. and it never gets dhcp.
20:07.40timothyewp just doesn't work?
20:07.48timothyewp = ewp
20:07.55W8TVIit works... sort of...
20:07.55godsmoke...
20:07.56timothyack... ewp = we[
20:07.59godsmoke...
20:08.04godsmokeewp == wep
20:08.05godsmoke:)
20:08.05timothyokay.  I can type...
20:08.08timothybarely.
20:08.08W8TVIyou sure?
20:08.22timothynot positive.  but the keyboard usually likes me.
20:08.31timothyperhaps I've got thumboard hands =]
20:08.45W8TVIheh
20:08.46timothywhat's the sort-of for wep?
20:09.18W8TVIif you config the wlan0 settings from the CLI you might be able to get it to work
20:09.31timothycli?
20:09.38W8TVIbut most likey you'll have to reset it up everytime
20:09.46W8TVICommand Line Interface
20:09.52timothyah.
20:09.55W8TVIuse Konsole
20:10.05timothywell, how would I try that?  iwconfig?
20:10.06W8TVIor Opie Terminal
20:10.09W8TVIyep
20:10.22timothywhat's the procedure?
20:10.37timothyiwconfig wlan0 enc s:password; iwconfig wlan0 commit?
20:10.49W8TVII dont think you need the commit
20:11.33W8TVII used iwconfig wlan0 key (mac here)
20:12.05timothymac address of the hub?
20:12.32W8TVIsorry'
20:12.45W8TVInot mac... wep
20:12.52W8TVIhmmm
20:12.58W8TVII got to go
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20:34.24timothydoes anyone know where I can get packages for opie 0.9.3?
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22:42.29prh(for shep)
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22:46.49knoppixit id for developers... this is for users
22:58.35prhoh - never knew that...
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