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| 02:26.56 | Soopizzle | hi |
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| 03:04.46 | endr | anyone know how to unconfuse ipkg? Technically, it somehow thinks that the current packages installed (e.g., opie-todo v 0.9.3) are the latest even though /etc/ipkg.conf has it pointing to the OZ testing feed (opie-todo is v 0.9.9 there)? |
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| 03:52.04 | nightfire | anyone considering throwing up a c700 gcc2 feed? |
| 03:52.11 | nightfire | ahem |
| 03:52.12 | nightfire | for opie |
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| 03:56.15 | endr | anyone know how to unconfuse ipkg? Technically, it somehow thinks that the current packages installed (e.g., opie-todo v 0.9.3) are the latest even though /etc/ipkg.conf has it pointing to the OZ testing feed (opie-todo is v 0.9.9 there)? |
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| 03:56.58 | endr | if I do a -force-reinstall ipkg complains the package is not available from any configured sources...but it is... |
| 03:57.19 | kergoth | the packages in unstable are a different architecture from ipkg's perspective |
| 03:57.22 | kergoth | read the mailing list archives |
| 03:57.27 | kergoth | its been discussed on numerous occasions |
| 03:57.56 | endr | done a couple searches on google...will do some more |
| 03:58.08 | endr | I assume I can s/unstable/testing/? |
| 03:58.39 | kergoth | right now unstable _is_ testing |
| 03:58.39 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:58.50 | endr | ok |
| 04:01.22 | nightfire | kergoth: the mmc support in 2.4.21 - is that sharp's work, or someone else's? |
| 04:02.58 | endr | kergoth: is the solution to downgrade to the stable feed's ipkg? |
| 04:03.54 | endr | kergoth: one hit on google (search oz + ipkg + architecture) = not obivous / FAQ... |
| 04:11.19 | kergoth | i said it had been discussed on the mailing lists on multiple occasions |
| 04:11.27 | kergoth | i didnt say you'd be able to find it easily |
| 04:11.34 | kergoth | nightfire: handhelds.org did the mmc drivers for the ipaq |
| 04:11.40 | kergoth | nightfire: we're just adding Z support to it |
| 04:11.57 | nightfire | cool |
| 04:13.13 | endr | kergoth: ok -- so the solution is to downgrade ipkg, right? |
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| 04:21.51 | _celloman | i'm trying to download opie-mediaplayer2 |
| 04:21.59 | _celloman | but i'm getting a libstdc++ dependency error |
| 04:22.06 | _celloman | which feed should i use to get it? |
| 04:23.02 | nightfire | just do --force-depends |
| 04:23.07 | nightfire | it should work |
| 04:23.16 | _celloman | hmm ok |
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| 04:28.37 | [257]MMZ_misanth | k, i --force-dependsded |
| 04:28.39 | [257]MMZ_misanth | but |
| 04:28.45 | [257]MMZ_misanth | it crashes when i try to play an mp3 |
| 04:29.23 | _celloman | oops |
| 04:29.38 | _celloman | anyway that's about the libstdc++ dep of opie-mediaplayer2 |
| 04:29.43 | _celloman | seems to be crashing without it |
| 04:29.56 | kergoth | no |
| 04:30.03 | kergoth | if its crashing its due to something else entirely, not that |
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| 04:32.23 | tgnb | hi |
| 04:32.41 | tgnb | i can't seem to get wifi working |
| 04:33.16 | tgnb | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:33.27 | tgnb | recognized as Z-com xi300 wlan card |
| 04:33.40 | tgnb | it keeps resetting to authentication type "shared key" although i select "open system |
| 04:33.49 | W8TVI | its a bug |
| 04:34.00 | W8TVI | it works fine with WEP off |
| 04:34.05 | W8TVI | its not the card |
| 04:35.09 | _celloman | opie-mediaplayer2 segfaults when playing an mp3 |
| 04:35.18 | tgnb | hrm. ok :/ so short of turning off wep on my home wlan any other solutions? |
| 04:35.58 | _celloman | there aren't any errors or warnings beforehand... |
| 04:36.08 | _celloman | has this happened to anyone else? |
| 04:36.31 | W8TVI | tgnb, try changing the key to shared on the AP |
| 04:36.55 | W8TVI | mine can do it, but I never tried it |
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| 04:38.38 | tgnb | hrm my WAP is set to "both" shared and open system |
| 04:38.57 | tgnb | but it also had a filter to only allow my laptop's hw address |
| 04:39.02 | tgnb | so that could also be it |
| 04:39.06 | W8TVI | yep |
| 04:39.14 | W8TVI | add the wireless card for the Z |
| 04:40.02 | tgnb | yep doing that right now |
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| 04:43.06 | tgnb | whats wrong? |
| 04:43.40 | W8TVI | my zaurus is just a crome brick |
| 04:44.10 | W8TVI | a fuse blue in my car power adapter and fried something in the z |
| 04:44.12 | tgnb | ? |
| 04:44.38 | W8TVI | thats what happend |
| 04:45.10 | tgnb | :( thats beyond bummer |
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| 04:45.47 | endr | doh... |
| 04:46.43 | W8TVI | I emailed the zaurus groups and one person offered a zaurus that had a bad screen for $85 |
| 04:47.04 | W8TVI | I asked if anyone had a z with a bad screen, but was fin otherwise |
| 04:47.52 | tgnb | mmm i'm connected :) |
| 04:48.11 | W8TVI | cool |
| 04:48.29 | W8TVI | you getting an IP? |
| 04:48.40 | tgnb | yep |
| 04:48.51 | W8TVI | cool |
| 04:49.04 | nightfire | anyone running a c7x0? |
| 04:51.18 | W8TVI | does wanting a c7x0 count? |
| 04:51.26 | nightfire | :/ |
| 04:52.01 | nightfire | i'd give anything for a US 5600 with a 640x480 screen |
| 04:52.09 | nightfire | i just don't get why PDAs are still at 320x240 |
| 04:52.58 | W8TVI | microsoft |
| 04:54.23 | nightfire | heh |
| 04:54.46 | W8TVI | thats why PPC PDAs dont have a keyboard |
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| 05:05.58 | [257]MMZ_misanth | can anyone help me with this mediaplayer problem? |
| 05:06.09 | [257]MMZ_misanth | it's fine until it tries to open the screen for playing an mp3 |
| 05:06.28 | cleverdra | and then? |
| 05:07.02 | [257]MMZ_misanth | segfault |
| 05:07.54 | cleverdra | no stderr ouput? |
| 05:11.31 | [257]MMZ_misanth | nope |
| 05:13.40 | cleverdra | sigh. Try another, I suppse. I'm not equpped for source-level debugging yet. |
| 05:14.33 | cleverdra | opie-mediaplayer is good, though fragile. The only player that works on my mpegs (and I *bought* two others!) |
| 05:14.56 | _celloman | then what other should i try? |
| 05:15.14 | _celloman | yeah, xine is better than tkcplayer and it's free |
| 05:18.01 | _celloman | hm |
| 05:18.09 | _celloman | i did have to break a libstdc++ dependency |
| 05:18.12 | _celloman | do you think that's the problem? |
| 05:18.18 | _celloman | and where can i get libstdc++? |
| 05:20.57 | endr | _celloman: I saw a mail on openzaurus-users (sourceforge.net mailinglist) that mentioned a *mistaken* libstdc++ dependency in mediaplayer... |
| 05:21.13 | endr | might be worth checking out that mail to see if it's the same problem as yours |
| 05:21.46 | _celloman | hmm.. ok |
| 05:22.21 | W8TVI | endr: thats not the problem |
| 05:22.37 | W8TVI | you can install it with -force-depens and it'll work just fine |
| 05:23.09 | endr | W8TVI: that's what I'm saying |
| 05:23.25 | endr | the mediaplayer ipkg incorrectly says it needs that lib |
| 05:23.31 | endr | (according to the email) |
| 05:23.33 | _celloman | see it doesn't work just fine that's the problem |
| 05:23.41 | _celloman | i know libstdc++ probably isn't the problem |
| 05:23.45 | _celloman | i just don't have any idea why it's crashing |
| 05:23.47 | endr | so if that's his problem he can rule it out -- but he should prob check it |
| 05:23.49 | endr | heh |
| 05:23.51 | endr | doh |
| 05:23.52 | endr | yeah |
| 05:24.34 | cleverdra | best to ignore ipkg. I got Effy installed today by that method. |
| 05:25.26 | _celloman | is there a more official feed that i can get an opie-mediaplayer that works? |
| 05:25.35 | _celloman | or maybe i could find just plain opie-mediaplayer somewhere |
| 05:25.38 | _celloman | instead of opie-mediaplayer2 |
| 05:27.56 | endr | what feed did you get it from? |
| 05:28.45 | _celloman | the official oz ones |
| 05:29.06 | _celloman | i enabled stable testing and unstable |
| 05:29.11 | _celloman | so i think maybe i got it from unstable |
| 05:31.28 | endr | _celloman: should be alright then...I don't know what gives. |
| 05:31.38 | endr | Try asking on openzaurus-users as well |
| 05:32.05 | Solar[X] | I've had similar problems... xmms nor opie-mediaplayer work anymore. |
| 05:32.25 | Solar[X] | In fact I'm still having those problems, heh. |
| 05:32.59 | _celloman | hm |
| 05:33.33 | Solar[X] | And I also got libstdc++, from the Ipaq familiar feed. |
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| 05:35.45 | w0d3n | what is a good .ogg player? |
| 05:35.58 | w0d3n | I liked xmms but it doesn't seem to be in the feeds anymore |
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| 05:36.37 | _celloman | well |
| 05:36.42 | _celloman | opie-mediaplayer2 should work |
| 05:36.47 | _celloman | but it doesn't seem to be working right now |
| 05:37.08 | w0d3n | I just installed it and didn't get a good vibe from it. |
| 05:37.17 | w0d3n | but I leave on a business trip tomorrow and would like something |
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| 05:45.12 | cleverdra | thekompany has an ogg player. |
| 05:45.56 | w0d3n | cleverdra: gracias, I'll look into it |
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| 05:48.57 | [257]MMZ_misanth | ok |
| 05:49.08 | _celloman | i reverted to stable and that worked |
| 05:49.13 | _celloman | no dep errors either |
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| 05:58.04 | endr | _celloman: very cool |
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| 07:18.00 | digitalnick | anyone use qpe-gaim? |
| 07:20.01 | endr | nope |
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| 07:21.12 | endr | digitalnick: do you? does it work well? |
| 07:22.24 | endr | anyone have a recommendation: should I reflash OZ 3.2 or 3.3.1 in order to then upgrade to Opie 1.0? |
| 07:22.33 | endr | (sl-5500) |
| 07:22.50 | W8TVI | what you running now? |
| 07:22.59 | W8TVI | and where is OZ 3.3.1? |
| 07:23.45 | digitalnick | endr im tryin |
| 07:23.58 | digitalnick | ipks wont install cant satisfy dep |
| 07:24.04 | digitalnick | packet-modules |
| 07:24.18 | digitalnick | so im lookin for that atm |
| 07:24.40 | digitalnick | oo 3.3.1? |
| 07:24.43 | digitalnick | whats new? |
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| 07:28.50 | endr | W8TVI: oz 3.3.1 (cat /etc/oz_version = 3.3.1) |
| 07:29.08 | endr | digitalnick: yeah I couldn't find vfat-modules |
| 07:29.42 | W8TVI | I can't check mine seeing that is a brick right now |
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| 07:32.03 | digitalnick | endr i migh tget it |
| 07:32.23 | digitalnick | W8TVI you have been whining about that for a couple days now |
| 07:32.34 | W8TVI | so? |
| 07:32.34 | digitalnick | tim to break out the plastic and go get a new one |
| 07:32.49 | digitalnick | ;P |
| 07:32.59 | W8TVI | used the plastic to get a new server :P |
| 07:33.10 | digitalnick | hehe |
| 07:33.12 | W8TVI | cant use it again till I get that paid off |
| 07:33.29 | digitalnick | indeed |
| 07:33.47 | digitalnick | love me some coast to coast |
| 07:33.59 | W8TVI | maybe some one will get tired of hearing me and send me one :) |
| 07:33.59 | digitalnick | anyone else listen to it? |
| 07:34.05 | digitalnick | heh |
| 07:43.07 | digitalnick | whats new in 3.3.1? |
| 07:51.02 | endr | lots of crashes :) |
| 07:51.17 | endr | tho that's probably me doing something wrong |
| 07:54.21 | digitalnick | heh |
| 07:54.28 | digitalnick | so basically nothing |
| 07:54.35 | digitalnick | well nothing that i want |
| 07:54.36 | digitalnick | heh |
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| 07:55.08 | endr | well actually I heard that there were some cool new features from some guys here, so I definitely think it's worth checking out |
| 07:55.22 | endr | if I can figure out the best way to upgrade |
| 07:56.03 | digitalnick | upgrade to opie 1.0? |
| 07:56.31 | endr | yup |
| 07:58.35 | digitalnick | im just sshing in and going to update off the feed |
| 08:02.43 | endr | the oz feed or the hh.org one? |
| 08:02.57 | digitalnick | hh |
| 08:03.02 | endr | and from which oz release are you doing it? |
| 08:03.05 | digitalnick | where is it in the oz feed? |
| 08:03.06 | endr | 3.2? |
| 08:03.07 | digitalnick | 3.2 |
| 08:03.11 | endr | cool |
| 08:03.15 | endr | lemme check |
| 08:03.17 | digitalnick | well see if it all works |
| 08:03.18 | digitalnick | heh |
| 08:03.36 | endr | it's in oz/testing |
| 08:03.39 | endr | good luck |
| 08:03.44 | digitalnick | thanks |
| 08:03.46 | digitalnick | heh |
| 08:03.53 | digitalnick | ill let ya know how it goes |
| 08:04.05 | digitalnick | ill probabbly end up reflashing hehe |
| 08:04.28 | endr | yup me too |
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| 09:03.20 | endr | alright, I'm going to reflash to OZ 3.2 (kernel 40/24) and then try to upgrade to Opie 1.0 (from oz/testing) |
| 09:03.31 | digitalnick | good luch |
| 09:03.36 | digitalnick | didnt work for me |
| 09:03.55 | digitalnick | has anyone been sucessful? |
| 09:04.24 | endr | really? what failed? |
| 09:04.44 | digitalnick | dunno it just locked up |
| 09:04.56 | digitalnick | cant remember what package it was on |
| 09:05.15 | digitalnick | opie-cardmon i think |
| 09:05.21 | digitalnick | and that was after a couple errors |
| 09:05.31 | digitalnick | but that wont stop me from trying again |
| 09:05.33 | digitalnick | :P |
| 09:05.46 | endr | ohh |
| 09:05.57 | endr | I've had problems when the root filesystem gets close to full |
| 09:06.11 | digitalnick | humm |
| 09:06.11 | endr | installs slow down tremendously |
| 09:06.17 | endr | known problem |
| 09:07.06 | endr | the reason I'm reflashing is that an ipkg upgrade took all of my root and ram space (20 MB) or so and still things like fonts are messed up |
| 09:07.19 | endr | I should be able to do an upgrade without that mess |
| 09:07.21 | digitalnick | ah |
| 09:07.28 | digitalnick | heh |
| 09:07.33 | digitalnick | one would think |
| 09:07.42 | endr | I had to quickly move files to ram from root & symlink them back to keep enough root fs space...silly. |
| 09:07.53 | digitalnick | heh |
| 09:08.03 | digitalnick | should be able to upgrade to root |
| 09:08.12 | digitalnick | and not worry about anythin |
| 09:10.04 | w0d3n_ | what happened to xmms-embedded? |
| 09:11.21 | endr | yup yup |
| 09:15.11 | endr | w0d3n_: what do you mean? |
| 09:18.12 | w0d3n_ | endr: it doesn't seem to be in the feeds anymore/ |
| 09:21.10 | gordonjcp_work_ | yeah I noticed that |
| 09:21.48 | w0d3n_ | I used it all the time before. |
| 09:22.06 | w0d3n_ | I was hoping to get it back up and running as I'm leaving on a business trip tomorrow |
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| 09:26.47 | endr | w0d3n_: that stinks |
| 09:29.04 | endr | digitalnick: I've reflashed and I'm trying selective ipkg installs first before a mass ipkg upgrade: task-opie-minimal (done, OK), task-opie (done, OK), task-opie-applets (in prog), task-opie-pim, etc. |
| 09:32.07 | endr | all good, rebooting |
| 09:39.07 | effy-kun | any of you use Redhat? |
| 09:39.25 | endr | yup |
| 09:39.53 | effy-kun | you ever install anything above RH6.0 and when the system reboots it complains about a readonly root filesystem and wont boot properly? |
| 09:41.48 | endr | I've done the two separately and yes I have had the problem, but usually because there was some problem mounting the root fs in read/write mode. Does it drop you to the single-user root prompt? |
| 09:42.16 | endr | Are you upgrading from RH6 to something else and having that problem? |
| 09:43.51 | effy-kun | no, I'm doing a fresh install |
| 09:44.00 | endr | cool |
| 09:44.01 | effy-kun | and I cant seem to get a single user mode |
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| 09:44.06 | endr | what happens? |
| 09:44.32 | effy-kun | It gets to one of the scripts for "setting kernel parameters" or something, and stops there |
| 09:44.51 | effy-kun | I hit ctrl-c and it starts to move, but then I see errors saying the root partition is mounted read-only |
| 09:44.56 | endr | oh |
| 09:45.14 | endr | it's hanging on some step and you're stopping that step, seemingly succeeding in working around the problem but... |
| 09:45.23 | endr | ...really that step was probably key to mounting your root fs |
| 09:45.32 | endr | what motherboard / cpu do you have? |
| 09:45.39 | endr | what RH version? |
| 09:45.46 | effy-kun | I just tried RH9 |
| 09:45.53 | effy-kun | motherboard and CPU, I am uncertain about |
| 09:46.05 | endr | RH9 should be cool |
| 09:46.15 | endr | is it an intel cpu, do you think? |
| 09:46.23 | endr | you can check in the bios |
| 09:46.26 | effy-kun | yeah, it's a Celeron |
| 09:46.59 | endr | the reason I ask is because sometimes motherboards have problems with ACPI or the MB APIC (or rather, the kernel has problems with them) |
| 09:47.14 | effy-kun | is there anything I could do with it? |
| 09:47.14 | endr | when you get the boot prompt (grub --> type c) |
| 09:47.20 | effy-kun | k |
| 09:47.39 | endr | ...then add "noapic" or "noacpi" (without quotes, of course) |
| 09:47.50 | endr | but try to see the exact line that it seems to hang at and let me know |
| 09:47.51 | effy-kun | what is the difference between the two? |
| 09:48.17 | effy-kun | and that should be a kernel parameter, I presume |
| 09:48.23 | endr | acpi is a power management chipset, apic is some other chipset that I forget right now (totally diff than power management) |
| 09:48.29 | endr | yes (kernel parm) |
| 09:48.48 | endr | is it an SMP box? |
| 09:52.24 | effy-kun | no, it isnt |
| 09:52.37 | effy-kun | it gets to "Configuring Kernel Parameters [OK]" and stops |
| 09:53.35 | endr | hmm |
| 09:54.08 | endr | I had that problem on an SMP box once |
| 09:54.27 | endr | right after it says that it reads & sets the motherboard system clock |
| 09:54.49 | effy-kun | yeah, I had noticed that on other installs, that it seemed to hang there |
| 09:54.57 | endr | and it hung there until I changed the BIOS to use MP table version 1.1 (instead of 1.4). |
| 09:55.15 | endr | I cannot really imagine why a UP box would have the same problem...must be something else... |
| 09:55.18 | effy-kun | the BIOS said ACPI was disabled |
| 09:55.26 | effy-kun | which seems approriate for a server |
| 09:55.41 | effy-kun | oh, and APIC = Advancted PIC, a PIC being similar to a microcontroller |
| 09:55.42 | endr | oh, cool...did you add that kernel param (noacpi)? |
| 09:55.52 | effy-kun | yes I added it at the end "noacpi" |
| 09:56.16 | endr | cool |
| 09:56.21 | endr | shot in the dark, but... |
| 09:56.26 | endr | oh wel |
| 09:56.46 | endr | do you have a boot disk (RH calls it a "rescue floppy")? |
| 09:56.55 | effy-kun | no, I did not create one |
| 09:57.05 | endr | hmm...how did you do the install? CD? |
| 09:57.10 | effy-kun | the floppy's days are numbered ;) |
| 09:57.14 | effy-kun | yeah, from CD |
| 09:57.21 | endr | you can use the CD then |
| 09:57.26 | effy-kun | true heh |
| 09:57.27 | endr | boot again from the CD... |
| 09:57.39 | endr | ...and it should allow you to boot a rescue kernel or something... |
| 09:57.47 | endr | ...then you can inspect the FS. |
| 09:58.00 | effy-kun | true |
| 09:58.00 | endr | I would recommend commenting out the hwclock lines in /etc/rc.sysinit |
| 09:58.06 | endr | once you mount your HD |
| 09:58.08 | effy-kun | but what would be wrong with the fs? |
| 09:58.19 | endr | then try to boot from the HD again and see if it gets any further. |
| 09:58.45 | effy-kun | I'd done that before, but it seemed to get stuck on other stuff and did not solve the mount readonly problem. but I did it before, and it had some effect, let me try |
| 09:59.25 | endr | oh...yeah good luck... |
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| 10:05.09 | endr | gtg...rh10 install |
| 10:06.02 | effy-kun | damn heh |
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| 13:37.20 | Bernardo | hi |
| 13:40.52 | Bernardo | kergoth: thanks for yesterday. I've downloaded the buildroot (shame about having to use bitkeeper), and am trying to compile now |
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| 14:59.22 | imk | http://openzaurus.org/oz_website//content/shots/opie/oz_pic_3.png |
| 14:59.29 | imk | how do you get apps to run in a window rather than fullscreen? |
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| 15:29.39 | digitalnick | endr did you upgrade everything to opie 1? |
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| 15:47.06 | bobbyd | hi |
| 15:48.05 | bobbyd | I have loads of files on my zaurus, quite often OZ tried says "finding documents" while it trawls through all my files looking for certain doc types, this locks my zaurus for about 40 seconds. is there any way to disable this? |
| 16:04.32 | bobbyd | everyone asleep? |
| 16:04.33 | bobbyd | :) |
| 16:08.59 | Bernardo | bobbyd: sort of... cleaning up the house... :) |
| 16:09.13 | Bernardo | I also have the same "lockups", btw |
| 16:09.21 | bobbyd | Bernardo: same thing I suppose ;) |
| 16:09.43 | Bernardo | But I remember there is a setting for oz not to search for new docs automatically on sd and cf |
| 16:09.46 | bobbyd | Bernardo: I think it just needs to be intelligent, do a file count and not bother if there are above a certain number |
| 16:09.56 | bobbyd | Bernardo: ok I'll check it out |
| 16:10.40 | dheckaman | Mmmm, instant lunch |
| 16:10.43 | Bernardo | I think it is in the Settings->Mount disk app |
| 16:12.38 | bobbyd | ok thanks |
| 16:14.21 | Bernardo | np |
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| 18:01.56 | Bernardo | anyone able to compile the 2.4.21-cl1 kernel? I always get something like "arm-linux-ld: ERROR: io.o uses hardware FP, whereas kernel.o uses software FP - File format not recognized; failed to merge specific data of file io.o" |
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| 18:44.09 | Bernardo | well, I got almost all to compile now in the buildroot, it fails at qte with a patch already applied. Any ideas? |
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| 18:49.11 | AlexCS | has anyone in here had any success getting qtmail from the sharp 3.10 rom working on OZ ? |
| 18:49.32 | Bernardo | I got it to install, but not to run... |
| 18:49.56 | AlexCS | yeah, ditto |
| 18:50.09 | AlexCS | it looks like the issue is that Opie/OZ lacks the quickexec program |
| 18:52.30 | AlexCS | have you gotten the 3.10 jeode to run? |
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| 19:31.06 | Bernardo | AlexCS: sorry, I had to leave. No, jeode also doesn't run |
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| 19:33.58 | Bernardo | well, screen doesn't compile for me as well... Next question, how do I generate the Packages file? I'd like to have my private feed dir. |
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| 19:39.04 | *** topic/#openzaurus is OpenZaurus User support channel. See #openembedded for developer questions. Latest 2.4.21/opie 1.0 testing image at but it http://www.tjhsst.edu/~agupta/zaurus/collie/. TS works, and is mostly usable, but keyboard is flaky and sdmmc is nonexistant. | 2.4.18 at http://openzaurus.org/unofficial/experimental/collie/2.4.18-rmk7-np2-embedix/ - SD not working until I can be bothered to fix it |
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| 20:00.32 | smoyer | Bernardo: There's a shell script that generates the Packages file. I can't remember where I got it though. |
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| 20:10.38 | dan2003003__ | wtf.. is gping on with my nicks |
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| 20:16.57 | Bernardo | smoyer: thanks. Right now I need to compile it all... But after I can get the buildroot to build I'll try and find the script |
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| 20:27.04 | Com[Plex] | uh.. hey guys, I havent picked up my zaurus in a couple months mow. so Im a bit rusty. - I just reflashed my z to a fresh clean install of oz 3.2 and I am having the same old problems that come with that. |
| 20:27.23 | Com[Plex] | whats the trick to fixing the network activation on bootup? |
| 20:27.58 | Com[Plex] | was it replacing ifup/down? or sticking something in the fstab? I cant remember, and since this is all odl stuff, Im having trouble finding the help pages for it all |
| 20:29.11 | Com[Plex] | anyway. any help woudl be appreciated. links, docs, nudges in the right direction. |
| 20:29.12 | Com[Plex] | etc |
| 20:33.51 | Bernardo | I normally have to do a "modprobe -r sa1100_bi" followed by a "modprobe sa1100_bi" every time I need to connect it... |
| 20:33.57 | KYungel | Your problem's not in the OZ fAQ? |
| 20:34.50 | Com[Plex] | oz faq.... |
| 20:34.58 | Com[Plex] | ~faq |
| 20:34.59 | | from memory, faq is at http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/zaurus-faq/ |
| 20:35.01 | Com[Plex] | err. |
| 20:35.57 | Com[Plex] | funny, the faq says "it should just work |
| 20:35.57 | Com[Plex] | Using a LAN or WLAN card, it should 'just work' |
| 20:36.01 | Com[Plex] | end quote |
| 20:36.38 | Bernardo | I am still unable to compile the buildroot... It fails in qt-embedded, complaining that the patch "qte234-for-opie091-makefile.patch" has errors |
| 20:36.43 | Bernardo | Anyone seen this? |
| 20:38.40 | Com[Plex] | I havent tried compiling in months. |
| 20:38.46 | KYungel | I've never gotten that far in the buildroot. |
| 20:38.50 | Com[Plex] | since my server died. I havent even touched it. heh |
| 20:39.16 | Com[Plex] | this shit is like calculus. you stop doing it for a week and you forget it all. |
| 20:39.26 | KYungel | Of course I have to have Redhat 9 with the one version of perl that dies on the deps.pl script. :) |
| 20:39.48 | KYungel | Don't tell me that, Com[Plex], I'm taking that next semester, and I had the course two years ago. :) |
| 20:40.13 | Com[Plex] | lol |
| 20:40.33 | KYungel | I'd like to think I'll have at least a passing familiarity. :) |
| 20:40.36 | Com[Plex] | better spend a summer with a tutor and get freshened up |
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| 21:03.42 | Com[Plex] | so.. no one has any tips to get the eth0 to come up when I boot the zaurus? |
| 21:03.44 | Com[Plex] | oz 3.2 |
| 21:04.20 | Com[Plex] | Ive replaced mknod allready so I could make vncserver work. |
| 21:06.16 | Bernardo | The problem seems to be the hotplug scripts, I think. If you go to the sourceforge project page, checking the bug entries you will see that there is a entry that hotplug is built for the ipaq 3600, not for the zaurus |
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| 21:25.50 | AlexCS | is anyone in here using the OZ snapshot from opie.net.wox.org ? |
| 21:26.07 | Bernardo | I think I am... the 030814 one? |
| 21:26.11 | AlexCS | yeah |
| 21:26.17 | AlexCS | do you have sound working? |
| 21:26.35 | Bernardo | You need to install the sound modules |
| 21:27.15 | AlexCS | which are where? |
| 21:27.19 | AlexCS | do you know? |
| 21:27.31 | Bernardo | enable the unstable server, and get them from there |
| 21:27.35 | AlexCS | ok |
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| 21:27.53 | Bernardo | I am assuming you got it to work with the network or with the usb craddle |
| 21:27.58 | AlexCS | gotcha |
| 21:27.59 | AlexCS | thanks |
| 21:28.07 | Bernardo | you're welcome |
| 21:28.15 | AlexCS | I have it working beautiful with an ambicom 802.11b card |
| 21:28.53 | eworm | I figured out why I could not connect to the net via gprs. :) |
| 21:29.24 | AlexCS | do I need to modprobe the modules, or does the packages config script automatically do it? |
| 21:29.46 | Bernardo | it did it automatically for me. Just enable the sound in the sound applet |
| 21:30.13 | Bernardo | eworm: you have a gprs adapter, or were you using irda and a mobile phone for it? |
| 21:30.37 | eworm | irda and a mobile phone. |
| 21:30.54 | Bernardo | I think I'll need to get that working soon... |
| 21:31.28 | eworm | I've commented "noipx" in pppd's config file. |
| 21:32.23 | Bernardo | it needed the ipx protocol? |
| 21:33.53 | eworm | No, it does not. |
| 21:34.07 | eworm | And it did not understand the option noipx. |
| 21:34.30 | eworm | So you have to comment it out. |
| 21:36.05 | Bernardo | ok, thanks. |
| 21:36.15 | Bernardo | so, what now, pppd call irda? |
| 21:36.48 | eworm | I've installed opie 1.0. |
| 21:37.09 | eworm | Using networksettings with networksettingsplugin-kppp. |
| 21:38.30 | smoyer | Bernardo: On the ZaurusZone feed there is a package called mkipkg to actually make the ipkg file. I'll let you know if I find the Package file build script |
| 21:39.25 | Bernardo | smoyer: thanks, it looks like the main makefile does it too, i I ever get the buildroot to build completely |
| 21:39.45 | Bernardo | eworm: will install it then, thanks. |
| 21:43.20 | Bernardo | query modem doesn't seem to be able to open ircomm0 |
| 21:43.41 | eworm | It's /dev/ircomm |
| 21:43.49 | eworm | ircomm0 is on ipaq |
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| 21:45.15 | Bernardo | still no go |
| 21:45.49 | AlexCS | okay, this is probably a really stupid question, but in terms of measuring the size of a file, does MB = MO ? |
| 21:45.58 | Bernardo | yes |
| 21:46.05 | AlexCS | excellent |
| 21:46.54 | eworm | Bernardo: irda is enabled? |
| 21:47.05 | Bernardo | Yes, and it has found my n okia 7650 |
| 21:48.48 | Bernardo | when I do a query modem, it shows "looking for modem" followed by "unable to open modem" |
| 21:49.11 | eworm | Hmm... |
| 21:49.19 | eworm | Never hat that problem. |
| 21:49.28 | eworm | I have a Siemens S55. |
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| 21:50.29 | Bernardo | I managed once to get it working with my laptop, and it wasn't very different from what I am trying now from my zaurus... Time to check my laptop kppp settings |
| 21:52.41 | AlexCS | okay, I've just finished and tested a script that will completely automagically encode an avi file on your computer into one fit for your zaurus, with ogg audio. All you have to do is put in the size you want the file to be. |
| 21:52.48 | AlexCS | is anyone interested in said script? |
| 21:53.15 | Bernardo | of course... anything to be able to watch pr0n on my pda... :) |
| 21:53.31 | AlexCS | :-) |
| 21:53.50 | AlexCS | yeah, I just got a 512mb cf, so I'm encoding all my futurama episodes |
| 21:53.55 | George`Coding | AlexCS: what encoding app does it use? |
| 21:54.03 | eworm | Yes, I need it, too. |
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| 21:54.12 | AlexCS | It uses mencoder |
| 21:54.16 | AlexCS | and and ogmencode |
| 21:54.21 | Bernardo | ah, eworm, I have /dev/ircomm0, not ircomm |
| 21:54.26 | eworm | Could not play videos with ogg audio till now. |
| 21:54.29 | George`Coding | AlexCS: yeh, dcc it over :D |
| 21:54.36 | AlexCS | 'k |
| 21:55.45 | eworm | AlexCS: Can you mail it? My router does not allow dcc... |
| 21:55.53 | AlexCS | sure |
| 21:55.56 | AlexCS | what's your address? |
| 21:56.01 | eworm | To mail@earthworm.de |
| 21:56.10 | AlexCS | k |
| 21:56.29 | Bernardo | AlexCS: can you dcc it? |
| 21:57.15 | George`Coding | Bernardo: his DCC is borked |
| 21:57.42 | Bernardo | AlexCS's dcc? |
| 21:57.45 | George`Coding | AlexCS: send it to gwright@users.sourceforge.net, please :) |
| 21:57.46 | AlexCS | apparently |
| 21:57.47 | George`Coding | Bernardo: yes |
| 21:57.48 | AlexCS | okay |
| 21:57.57 | AlexCS | yeah it looks like my firewall doesn't like the dcc |
| 21:58.27 | Bernardo | and TDCC send? |
| 21:59.26 | AlexCS | nope |
| 21:59.29 | AlexCS | what's your email? |
| 22:00.43 | Bernardo | jbernardo@sourcemage.org |
| 22:01.41 | Bernardo | eworm: I am now able to query the modem, but only get garbage |
| 22:02.28 | eworm | How did you configure it? |
| 22:02.48 | AlexCS | okay |
| 22:02.53 | AlexCS | sent out to y'all |
| 22:02.54 | Bernardo | 57600, rtscts, cr |
| 22:03.00 | Bernardo | AlexCS: thanks! |
| 22:04.00 | eworm | AlexCS: Thanks! |
| 22:04.21 | eworm | You use mplayer to play your videos? |
| 22:04.46 | eworm | Did you get it working with opie-mediaplayer2? |
| 22:05.19 | AlexCS | I couldn't get it to work with opie-mediaplayer2 |
| 22:05.30 | AlexCS | hell, I couldn't get anything to work with opie-mediaplayer2 |
| 22:06.21 | eworm | anything is not correct, but it crashes with ogg audio in a video. |
| 22:06.24 | Bernardo | I couldn't even get the latest opie-mediaplayer2 to install |
| 22:07.07 | AlexCS | so yeah |
| 22:07.51 | AlexCS | heh, wrong window |
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| 22:09.47 | eworm | Just installing mplayer... |
| 22:11.49 | eworm | It works. :) |
| 22:11.53 | AlexCS | mplayer? |
| 22:11.57 | AlexCS | good |
| 22:11.57 | eworm | yes |
| 22:12.03 | eworm | mplayer is great. |
| 22:12.19 | eworm | mike's new car... |
| 22:12.22 | eworm | :) |
| 22:12.35 | AlexCS | oh, heh, I found an error in my script |
| 22:12.39 | AlexCS | that was dumb of me |
| 22:12.57 | AlexCS | the copy that I sent out I accidentally hardcoded in one filename |
| 22:13.22 | AlexCS | so you have to change SouthPark614.avi to "$1" |
| 22:13.24 | AlexCS | oops |
| 22:14.42 | Bernardo | ok, thanks. Got to go now, see you tomorrow |
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| 22:42.59 | nayr | hrmm |
| 22:43.01 | nayr | i upgraded opie |
| 22:43.02 | nayr | now im stuck |
| 22:43.07 | nayr | it wont start |
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| 23:16.21 | snarf | hi |
| 23:16.49 | snarf | i just installed OZ and was wondering what app to use to transfer files from a win32 box to the z ? |
| 23:17.20 | cleverdra | snarf - winscp |
| 23:17.54 | snarf | coo, thanks |
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