| 00:02.04 | *** join/#openzaurus LinuxKnight (~Phantom@lsanca2-ar33-4-41-139-240.lsanca2.dsl-verizon.net) |
| 00:56.24 | Subway | such a quiet irc channel |
| 00:56.31 | treke | very |
| 01:00.55 | George- | MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 01:02.16 | *** join/#openzaurus darmou (darmou@graphic.csse.monash.edu.au) |
| 01:05.13 | darmou | Is anyone here? |
| 01:05.21 | redtoade | nope |
| 01:06.23 | George- | OINK |
| 01:07.03 | darmou | Just wondering if the topic indicates that opie will no longer be included as part of oz or what does it mean? |
| 01:07.18 | George- | oh for god's sake. |
| 01:07.28 | George- | The topic means that Opie is not the same project as OZ |
| 01:07.39 | George- | and as such do not ask Opie-related support questions in here. |
| 01:07.42 | treke | darmou: No |
| 01:07.50 | treke | darmou: it means you can get opie 1.0 in the feed |
| 01:08.09 | George- | that as well :P |
| 01:09.18 | George- | treke: how's the C760? still unusable? |
| 01:10.32 | darmou | Hmm I wonder, now that theKompany is selling the C760 if there will be more sales |
| 01:10.49 | treke | George-: nah. got oz on it this morning |
| 01:10.55 | George- | treke: nice :) |
| 01:11.12 | George- | treke: it's a 400MHz PXA255 w/128MB ram right? |
| 01:11.20 | treke | no |
| 01:11.23 | treke | 64mb ram |
| 01:11.31 | George- | I thought the 760 had 128MB |
| 01:11.35 | treke | nope |
| 01:11.37 | treke | 128MB flash |
| 01:11.41 | George- | oh right |
| 01:11.49 | George- | that must be pretty cool for video playing :P |
| 01:11.50 | treke | 64mb ram is plenty :p |
| 01:12.14 | George- | is the PXA255 nice? |
| 01:12.27 | treke | George-: Yup |
| 01:12.39 | George- | nifty |
| 01:15.22 | treke | George-: all kinds of little things to do though |
| 01:15.37 | George- | such as? |
| 01:15.41 | treke | George-: the jogswitch/thingy doesnt work. Since opie-reader is a major app for me, thats number one on the list |
| 01:15.48 | treke | George-: screen doesnt auto rotate |
| 01:15.55 | George- | auto-rotate? |
| 01:16.27 | treke | George-: when you flip the screen in sharps rom, the rotation of the screen adjusts |
| 01:16.43 | George- | treke: automagically? |
| 01:17.01 | George- | treke: so there's like a little software trigger when the screen is physically rotated? |
| 01:17.01 | treke | George-: yess |
| 01:17.05 | treke | wow |
| 01:17.11 | treke | konquerer is useful now |
| 01:17.15 | George- | hehehe |
| 01:17.30 | treke | its funny. The text is tiny, but completely readable |
| 01:17.32 | George- | treke's-C760: I want to have your babies! |
| 01:17.33 | George- | ;P |
| 01:20.23 | nightfire | treke: can you go to videolan.org? |
| 01:20.48 | nightfire | my konqueror crashes, but i'm not sure if it's because i'm using debian's libraries, or because the browser actually crashes |
| 01:21.12 | nightfire | unfortunately it doesn't seem to like running under gdb or ltrace. |
| 01:21.54 | George- | nightfire: videolan.org works here |
| 01:22.04 | George- | nightfire: CVS HEAD from August 17th |
| 01:22.18 | nightfire | hmm |
| 01:22.23 | nightfire | do you have an ipk handy? :) |
| 01:22.52 | treke | works here |
| 01:23.04 | nightfire | ok, it must be my libraries. |
| 01:23.39 | George- | nightfire: er, whoops, I thought you meant "real" konqueror :) |
| 01:23.48 | nightfire | haha nah, konq/e |
| 01:24.24 | treke | either way it works here |
| 01:24.32 | treke | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.31162.png |
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| 01:24.59 | nightfire | treke: are you using the ipk from OZ 3.2? |
| 01:25.07 | treke | nightfire: no |
| 01:25.11 | nightfire | buildroot? |
| 01:25.17 | treke | yes |
| 01:25.23 | George- | treke: you're a bastard, you know that don't you? |
| 01:25.23 | nightfire | k. |
| 01:25.36 | treke | George-: yup |
| 01:25.37 | George- | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.31162.png <-- That's well and truly fucked. |
| 01:25.54 | George- | if your screen looks like that, I pity you :P |
| 01:25.55 | treke | George-: scap clearly doesnt like the c700 |
| 01:26.01 | nightfire | hehe |
| 01:26.31 | nightfire | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:26.38 | nightfire | what's wrong with that picture? :) |
| 01:26.53 | George- | http://screenshots.tader.net/image.php?image=20020630203903-149.225.148.76_1.png&page=1 <-- Now _that's_ nifty ;) |
| 01:27.03 | George- | I can tell you though, opie on the 5mx is SLOOOWWW |
| 01:27.25 | treke | fuck the 5mx |
| 01:29.32 | George- | how dare you |
| 01:29.32 | nightfire | what's the 5mx? |
| 01:29.32 | George- | the 5mx had a great keyboard |
| 01:29.32 | nightfire | nokia? |
| 01:29.32 | George- | much better than the crap that's on the Zaurus |
| 01:29.32 | George- | nightfire: Psion |
| 01:29.32 | George- | nightfire: very nice machine |
| 01:29.32 | nightfire | oh |
| 01:29.33 | George- | http://linux-7110.sourceforge.net/howtos/series5mx/5MXHOWTO/PsiLinux.gif |
| 01:29.33 | George- | bit old these days though |
| 01:29.33 | nightfire | whoa |
| 01:29.33 | nightfire | neat |
| 01:29.39 | nightfire | looks home brew :) |
| 01:29.43 | George- | It has a 640x240 monochrome screen, takes two AA batteries and last for about 16 hours or so... |
| 01:29.46 | nightfire | i could see that on /. |
| 01:29.54 | George- | 36MHz ARM710T |
| 01:37.28 | nightfire | ah ha... libpng is the culprit. |
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| 01:42.03 | nightfire | ah glorious stability. |
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| 01:55.53 | nightfire | what package owns /usr/bin/update-menus? |
| 02:09.10 | craig_ | hello all questions is their an app that can convert pdf documents for the sharp zaurus |
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| 03:29.45 | sig | ok I'm having some problems here... I'm in vnc, but I can't use my keyboard from my pc to type in the terminal |
| 03:30.01 | sig | is this not supported in OZ ? |
| 03:31.55 | pyromance | it's a mknod problem in OZ's busybox |
| 03:33.03 | sig | pyromance: so I won't be able to type with my pc keyboard then? |
| 03:33.06 | sig | is that what your telling me? |
| 03:33.19 | pyromance | You need to fix mknod |
| 03:33.36 | sig | how do I do that? |
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| 03:51.52 | pyromance | sig |
| 03:51.56 | pyromance | It's on the Zaurus forums |
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| 03:57.00 | sig | pyromance: can you point me to the url? |
| 04:01.08 | sig | pyromance: where are thest forums your talking about dude? |
| 04:08.12 | sig | pyromance: !! |
| 04:08.50 | sig | can anyone tell me how to fix mknod so that I can type when I'm in vncviewer on my pc to openzaurus? |
| 04:11.27 | kergoth | read the mailing list archives |
| 04:11.32 | kergoth | its been discussed _numerous_ times |
| 04:11.34 | sig | kergoth: ok, but where |
| 04:11.38 | sig | thats what I'm asking |
| 04:11.48 | sig | I have no problem reading, I just need to know where they are |
| 04:11.49 | kergoth | ? |
| 04:11.52 | kergoth | openzaurus.org |
| 04:11.53 | kergoth | contact |
| 04:11.55 | kergoth | MAILING LISTS |
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| 04:15.21 | pyromance | Sorry kergoth |
| 04:15.31 | pyromance | Would've deflected that for ya but was on webcam with a hottie |
| 04:16.15 | sig | pyromance: I don't see any in the forums on this issue with typing in vnc |
| 04:16.26 | pyromance | sig: give me 2 minutes |
| 04:16.29 | sig | k |
| 04:17.21 | pyromance | try 30 seconds |
| 04:17.22 | pyromance | http://www.zaurus.com/dev/board/index.php?act=ST&f=3&t=4498&hl=openzaurus,and,vnc&s=9632baba405b5c88c94a8119c9ed0584 |
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| 04:19.41 | sig | pyromance: my screen taps work |
| 04:19.44 | sig | just not the keyboard |
| 04:20.00 | George`ZZzz | ok, just dashed an email off requesting a kde.org email addy |
| 04:20.07 | George`ZZzz | I'll probably get refused.. :) |
| 04:20.13 | pyromance | sig: Still ... follow that thread |
| 04:20.17 | *** join/#openzaurus pragma (~pragma@dsl-200-67-45-104.prodigy.net.mx) |
| 04:20.20 | pyromance | $10 says it'll fix it if applied properly |
| 04:21.45 | pragma | What is the diference between Opie and OpenZaurus? (I mean there are diferent web pages) |
| 04:22.14 | pyromance | OpenZaurus is a ROM. Opie is a GUI |
| 04:22.28 | George`ZZzz | to put it, very very bluntly, yes |
| 04:22.29 | George`ZZzz | :P |
| 04:23.25 | kergoth | opie is to openzaurus as kde+X is to redhat. |
| 04:23.27 | pragma | pyromance: Hm, what's the diference? I dont know what a ROM means (like snes roms?) |
| 04:23.41 | kergoth | pragma: rom as is the contents of flash rom. in this case, a linux distribution. |
| 04:24.06 | George`ZZzz | kergoth: heya :) |
| 04:24.21 | pyromance | Exactly like SNES roms. That slot in the back is for Gameboy Advance cartriges. |
| 04:24.22 | pragma | Hm, OPIE isnt a content in a flash rom? |
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| 04:24.39 | kergoth | pragma: what? |
| 04:24.52 | George`ZZzz | bugger, I stayed up so late today that I've just heard my father getting up to go to work |
| 04:24.52 | kergoth | pragma: opie is a a grpahical environment, which is INCLUDED in openzaurus |
| 04:24.56 | kergoth | openzuarus is a linux distirbution |
| 04:25.04 | kergoth | a linux distribution is a linux kernel and applications. |
| 04:25.13 | kergoth | once again, opie is to openzaurus as kde+x is to redhat |
| 04:25.15 | pragma | kergoth: Ok, got it... |
| 04:25.27 | pragma | So, its the same? |
| 04:25.31 | kergoth | what? |
| 04:25.34 | pyromance | No... |
| 04:25.36 | pragma | Opie/zaurus |
| 04:25.42 | pragma | opie/openzaurus |
| 04:25.45 | George`ZZzz | this is like trying to draw blood from a sstone. |
| 04:25.50 | pyromance | OpenZaurus INCLUDES Opie, but Opie is not, in and of itself, OpenZaurus |
| 04:25.55 | kergoth | opie is a gui. |
| 04:25.59 | kergoth | it can run on ipaqs |
| 04:26.00 | kergoth | zaurus |
| 04:26.01 | kergoth | desktop |
| 04:26.05 | kergoth | ET FUCKING CETERA |
| 04:26.10 | kergoth | openzaurus just happens to include it |
| 04:26.11 | George`ZZzz | hahaha |
| 04:26.33 | pyromance | Kinda like how Windows95 included DOS when you bought it. |
| 04:26.41 | pragma | SO the only diference is the presentation of the software? |
| 04:26.46 | sig | is there a way to reboot the zaurus if it freezes? |
| 04:26.46 | pyromance | No |
| 04:26.47 | kergoth | no |
| 04:26.57 | kergoth | sig: soft reset or full reset |
| 04:26.58 | sig | damn |
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| 04:27.03 | kergoth | sig: i wasnt talking to you |
| 04:27.06 | George`ZZzz | in a nutshell: OPIE IS NOT OPENZAURUS, OPIE WILL NEVER BE OPENZAURUS, OPIE IS A GUI, OPENZAURUS IS A LINUX DISTRIBUTION |
| 04:27.11 | kergoth | i said no to pragma, who fails to see the obvious |
| 04:27.16 | pyromance | pragma: OpenZaurus is the operating system ... Opie is a program that is included with and runs on that operating system ... |
| 04:27.24 | George`ZZzz | pyromance: I beg to differ |
| 04:27.29 | George`ZZzz | pyromance: OPenZaurus is NOT an OS |
| 04:27.30 | George`ZZzz | :) |
| 04:27.37 | sig | kergoth: no way to reboot it |
| 04:27.57 | George`ZZzz | well, OZ and Opie are the same in that they are both a collection of applications :) |
| 04:28.10 | pyromance | George`ZZzz: I am trying to put it in ways he'll understand. Remember when you were young and you were told the moon was made of cheese? Like that. |
| 04:28.12 | George`ZZzz | but there the similarity ENDS |
| 04:28.21 | kergoth | sig: huh? |
| 04:28.21 | George`ZZzz | pyromance: I was never told anything of the sort. |
| 04:28.27 | kergoth | sig: you can soft reset, and you can full reset. |
| 04:28.34 | sig | kergoth: it froze |
| 04:28.34 | kergoth | sig: i count two ways |
| 04:28.39 | kergoth | NO SHIT |
| 04:28.45 | kergoth | do you know what soft reset and full reset are? |
| 04:28.46 | pragma | Ok, so untill the end, either you install a OS or a GUI you have the same Interphase running? |
| 04:28.47 | kergoth | obviously not. |
| 04:28.48 | sig | I know the soft reset, I was just wondering if there was like a ctrl alt delete shit |
| 04:28.49 | sig | lol |
| 04:28.52 | George`ZZzz | i love kergoth sometimes :) |
| 04:28.55 | kergoth | pragma: what? |
| 04:28.56 | pyromance | George`ZZzz: Damn ... Was I the only one with cruel parents? |
| 04:29.03 | George`ZZzz | pyromance: probably |
| 04:29.11 | kergoth | pragma: an operating system INCLUDES a gui. |
| 04:29.13 | pyromance | I wasn't hugged enough as a child either. |
| 04:29.15 | pragma | kergoth: I mean the interphase (what I know as opie) is running? |
| 04:29.17 | kergoth | you dont install an OS _OR_ an operating system |
| 04:29.24 | George`ZZzz | either pragma is VERY stupid, or trying to be funny |
| 04:29.25 | kergoth | you install an OS that may or may not include a graphical interface |
| 04:29.37 | kergoth | interphase, is that some sort of star trek device? |
| 04:29.43 | George`ZZzz | rofl |
| 04:29.46 | kergoth | where i come from its called an interface |
| 04:30.10 | George`ZZzz | kergoth's a really nice guy :) |
| 04:30.15 | kergoth | god stupidity amuses me. |
| 04:30.21 | kergoth | oh, and ineptitude too |
| 04:30.28 | james_lan-home | unless you manage to annoy him ;) |
| 04:30.47 | George`ZZzz | james_lan-home: in which case he becomes absolutely HILARIOUS |
| 04:30.56 | sig | pyromance: damnit |
| 04:31.01 | pyromance | sig: what? |
| 04:31.08 | sig | I installed the new busy box upgraded it really |
| 04:31.11 | pragma | Well, better ask and look stupid once, that stay stupid the rest of your life... |
| 04:31.14 | sig | and now the mouse doesn't even work |
| 04:31.14 | kergoth | sig: in OZ you can use sysrq to force a reset |
| 04:31.25 | pyromance | The Zaurus doesn't have a mouse. |
| 04:31.27 | pyromance | Oh... VNC? |
| 04:31.27 | kergoth | on collie anyway |
| 04:31.28 | sig | this made it worse |
| 04:31.33 | sig | pyromance: via vnc dude |
| 04:31.38 | sig | thats what I'm talking about |
| 04:31.46 | sig | the mouse pointer worked before |
| 04:31.51 | sig | just not the typing on the keyboard |
| 04:31.53 | kergoth | pragma: its not about looking stupid. |
| 04:31.56 | sig | now niether work via vnc |
| 04:31.58 | pyromance | http://www.zaurus.com/dev/board/index.php?act=ST&f=3&t=3966&hl=openzaurus,and,vnc&s=9632baba405b5c88c94a8119c9ed0584 |
| 04:32.00 | George`ZZzz | kergoth: so remind me again, opie and openzaurus are the same things, but with different names? |
| 04:32.00 | kergoth | pragma: its about _being_ stupid |
| 04:32.06 | kergoth | George`ZZzz: you got it! |
| 04:32.10 | kergoth | ~praise George`ZZzz |
| 04:32.12 | | All hail George`ZZzz! |
| 04:32.18 | sig | shista |
| 04:32.37 | George`ZZzz | kergoth: I mean, for god's sake, I even put the bloody thing in the topic hours ago |
| 04:32.45 | George`ZZzz | "Yes, this means that OpenZaurus != Opie" |
| 04:33.02 | kergoth | George`ZZzz: i think the 44th time is the charm, not the third, in his case. |
| 04:33.09 | *** topic/#openzaurus by George`ZZzz -> Get OpenZaurus at www.openzaurus.org/ | opie 1.0 feed at: http://opie.handhelds.org/feed.php | #opie for opie support | TAKE NOTE -> Yes, this means that OpenZaurus != Opie <- TAKE NOTE |
| 04:33.21 | pyromance | oh my |
| 04:33.27 | pyromance | my cats are looking at me funny for that guffaw |
| 04:34.00 | George`ZZzz | kergoth: what about the interphasing grafikal stimulant? |
| 04:34.19 | kergoth | George`ZZzz: you cant use that unless its a full moon |
| 04:34.26 | George`ZZzz | hahaha |
| 04:34.33 | pyromance | I am having a bit of problem with my OpenZaurus USB Interphaser. Is there a newsgroup for that in German? |
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| 04:35.22 | james_lan-home | argh, new version of kopete (=more bug fixes in future, more problems atm, with new interfaces) |
| 04:35.22 | pragma | kergoth: Whatever man... |
| 04:35.22 | *** part/#openzaurus pragma (~pragma@dsl-200-67-45-104.prodigy.net.mx) |
| 04:35.25 | George`ZZzz | you mad fetishist |
| 04:35.50 | pyromance | I have a nice spiked license plate frame. Yay fetish |
| 04:36.16 | sig | hmm |
| 04:36.17 | pyromance | http://pyromaniac.net/wardriver.jpg |
| 04:36.24 | sig | had to soft reboot my z |
| 04:36.41 | pyromance | sig: of course. You installed a new mknod ;) |
| 04:36.41 | sig | no it sits with the openz logo saying: (none) login: |
| 04:36.44 | George`ZZzz | dum dee dum dum dum... another one bites the dust... dum dee dum dum dum.. another one bites the dust.. and another one gone.. and another one gone.. another one bites the dust... |
| 04:36.50 | sig | ? |
| 04:37.01 | pyromance | Whups. |
| 04:37.01 | kergoth | sig: ouch. |
| 04:37.05 | kergoth | sig: you're in trouble |
| 04:37.19 | George`ZZzz | yeh, the hostname's gone out the window |
| 04:37.22 | sig | !what!? |
| 04:37.23 | George`ZZzz | dood, this is BAD |
| 04:37.36 | kergoth | he upgraded busybox, i'm willing to bet the busybox symlinks didnt get installed with it |
| 04:37.37 | sig | kergoth: seriously |
| 04:37.40 | kergoth | seriously |
| 04:37.46 | sig | is it ruined? |
| 04:37.47 | pyromance | oooops |
| 04:37.48 | kergoth | busybox doesnt do you much good without say, /bin/sh for example |
| 04:37.55 | james_lan-home | owie! |
| 04:37.55 | George`ZZzz | sig: you stupid stupid stupid stupid stpuid stupid stupid bastard |
| 04:38.01 | kergoth | heh, its not his fault |
| 04:38.06 | kergoth | the upgrade path is hosed |
| 04:38.06 | sig | I listend to pyromance |
| 04:38.09 | kergoth | because ipkg cant handle it |
| 04:38.23 | George`ZZzz | kergoth: fix it then you asshole :) |
| 04:38.30 | sig | please! |
| 04:38.36 | kergoth | George`ZZzz: ipkg? hah, yeah, right. |
| 04:39.03 | james_lan-home | sig: can you login? (my guess is not) |
| 04:39.06 | George`ZZzz | kergoth: I don't see a disclaimer ont he OZ site saying "If you upgrade busybox then your OZ might get hosed because the symlinks aren't being made", so you're responsible :) |
| 04:39.16 | kergoth | George`ZZzz: its called "unstable" for a reason |
| 04:39.18 | sig | no I can't log in |
| 04:39.33 | sig | pyromance: thanks dude |
| 04:39.34 | George`ZZzz | kergoth: because it's sitting on one of the many spikes on your cluebat? |
| 04:39.50 | pyromance | sig: Hey... I simply showed you a post that told you what was wrong and why |
| 04:40.03 | sig | pyromance: shall I paste? |
| 04:40.07 | George`ZZzz | sig: I hope you backed your data up |
| 04:40.09 | pyromance | sig: fire away |
| 04:40.10 | kergoth | heh, you're responsible for your own actions |
| 04:40.11 | james_lan-home | sig: do you have any important data on it, or would reflashing be a problem? |
| 04:40.19 | kergoth | you think i listen to evferything i hear on either irc or the web? |
| 04:40.20 | kergoth | fuck no. |
| 04:40.22 | sig | <pyromance> $10 says it'll fix it if applied properly |
| 04:40.32 | pyromance | Last three words are operative |
| 04:40.33 | kergoth | sig: he lost the bet. darn. |
| 04:40.37 | sig | james_lan-home: how can I reflash |
| 04:40.39 | kergoth | ah good call |
| 04:40.48 | kergoth | sig: you dont have a cf? |
| 04:40.50 | sig | is it still on the CF card? |
| 04:40.52 | james_lan-home | with a cf card |
| 04:40.57 | kergoth | did you remove the files? |
| 04:41.03 | sig | not that I know of |
| 04:41.10 | kergoth | note: until you remove a file, said file isnt removed. |
| 04:41.11 | sig | unless it wipes them out when you flash |
| 04:41.12 | kergoth | isnt logic grand? |
| 04:41.19 | james_lan-home | sig: it doesn't |
| 04:41.29 | George`ZZzz | s/accidently/accident/; |
| 04:41.33 | kergoth | George`ZZzz: that chorus sucks |
| 04:41.48 | George`ZZzz | kergoth: what about "kergoth is an asshole"? |
| 04:42.00 | pyromance | George`ZZzz: I said "if applied properly" ... The Busybox upgrade apparently was not. |
| 04:42.02 | kergoth | George`ZZzz: hmm, that has a better ring to it |
| 04:42.16 | Bala | George`ZZzz: if someone was really eveil they'd change the topic to tell everyone to upgrade busybox. |
| 04:42.19 | pyromance | sig: If it'll make you feel better, I'll send $10 to you via paypal. |
| 04:42.31 | George`ZZzz | what about "kergoth has a brain the size of a weasel's wedding tackle"? |
| 04:42.39 | George`ZZzz | ok, I'll stop quoting Blackadder now |
| 04:42.50 | George`ZZzz | Bala: good idea! |
| 04:42.51 | pyromance | It'll even be in real US dollars. I won't use liberian currency this time. |
| 04:42.52 | kergoth | sig: had you read the mailing list archives, you would have seen that coming. |
| 04:42.57 | james_lan-home | sig: if you downloaded zimage and initrd.bin (from memory, so check the names) onto cf, you should just be able to reflash. |
| 04:43.06 | kergoth | pyromance: liar |
| 04:43.31 | *** topic/#openzaurus by George`ZZzz -> Get OpenZaurus at www.openzaurus.org/ | opie 1.0 feed at: http://opie.handhelds.org/feed.php | #opie for opie support | TAKE NOTE -> Yes, this means that OpenZaurus != Opie <- TAKE NOTE | According to pyromance, if you upgrade busybox on OZ from the unstable feed, your Zaurus will treat you a whole lot different. And that's a promise. |
| 04:43.53 | pyromance | kergoth: Hey... OZ got it's donation in US dollars. I only send Liberian dollars to wanker projects. |
| 04:43.57 | Bala | much better :) |
| 04:44.01 | George`ZZzz | pyromance: such as? |
| 04:44.46 | sig | isn't working |
| 04:44.49 | *** topic/#openzaurus by kergoth -> OpenZaurus user discussion channel | developer discussion in #openembedded | http://openzaurus.org/ | Please, read the FAQs and search the mailing list archives before bothering the developers. |
| 04:44.52 | pyromance | http://www.georgewbush.com/ |
| 04:44.52 | sig | :( |
| 04:45.02 | George`ZZzz | kergoth: you bastard |
| 04:45.52 | George`ZZzz | bugger, it's 5:44am |
| 04:45.53 | George`ZZzz | grrr |
| 04:45.54 | George`ZZzz | I need to sleep |
| 04:46.28 | George`ZZzz | I hope my application for a kde.org email addy works :) |
| 04:46.57 | sig | pyromance: you mother fu&^%$ |
| 04:47.06 | George`ZZzz | sig: now now |
| 04:47.09 | sig | lol |
| 04:47.14 | kergoth | sig: time to buy a cf reader, i'd say. |
| 04:47.16 | George`ZZzz | sig: channel rules clearly state that all abuse must be directed at kergoth |
| 04:47.18 | sig | lol |
| 04:47.19 | james_lan-home | sig: that is my-reccomended-but-i-should-be-asleep-so-i-will-go-to-sleep-so-i-can't-help-tonight-sorry-try-tommarrow solution, if you have a cf card and either the images on it, or access to a cf reader/writer. (needs to be in fat format, copy those files (in my experence, if they are the only 2 it works best) then hit reset+c+d (or something, check the oz docs) |
| 04:47.28 | sig | lol |
| 04:47.31 | sig | james_lan-home: I think I got it |
| 04:47.33 | pyromance | sig: Did I have to go through every step with you? I told you I'd send you $10 for the bet you won. Use it to buy a CF reader. |
| 04:47.36 | sig | but I won't listen |
| 04:47.39 | sig | to him again |
| 04:47.39 | sig | hehe |
| 04:47.50 | kergoth | stop complaining. shit happens. |
| 04:47.51 | sig | only thing that didn't work was the keyboard on my pc via vnc |
| 04:47.52 | sig | heh |
| 04:47.58 | sig | everything else rocked on 3.2 |
| 04:48.02 | sig | :P |
| 04:48.06 | George`ZZzz | yeh, listen to kergoth, you've only got to look at him to know he's right |
| 04:48.08 | sig | it is flashing now I "hope" |
| 04:48.14 | pyromance | A busybox upgrade is a serious thing in OZ, sig. |
| 04:48.25 | sig | pyromance: sure say that now |
| 04:48.30 | james_lan-home | is that fixed in the latest stuff? (vnc being able to recieve mouse+kb events?) |
| 04:48.31 | sig | :P |
| 04:48.41 | sig | james_lan-home: obviously not |
| 04:48.44 | sig | this is the latest |
| 04:48.44 | sig | heh |
| 04:48.45 | kergoth | james_lan-home: yes, unstable busybox has that fixed. |
| 04:48.48 | kergoth | sig: bullshit. |
| 04:48.53 | sig | kergoth: ? |
| 04:48.57 | kergoth | james_lan-home: however, its packaging changed significantly. |
| 04:49.10 | pyromance | Forgive me for assuming that OpenZaurus (and indeed the Zaurus itself) is NOT for newbies. |
| 04:49.18 | james_lan-home | and that's what sig discovered the hard way I take it. |
| 04:49.22 | kergoth | james_lan-home: precisely |
| 04:49.43 | sig | pyromance: I've used linux for 3 1/2 years |
| 04:49.52 | sig | this I have no problems with linux |
| 04:49.57 | sig | I had problems with the hardware |
| 04:50.03 | kergoth | sig: think of upgrading busybox on the Z as like upgrading glibc on a desktop |
| 04:50.05 | sig | bling bling |
| 04:50.09 | kergoth | sig: something that if it fucks up, you're hosed. |
| 04:50.10 | sig | it worked |
| 04:50.29 | pyromance | OK ... when you performed the busybox upgrade, did you know that busybox and the symbolic links thereto were the heart and soul of the Zaurus? |
| 04:50.34 | sig | kergoth: so do you know a fix for the keyboard to work with fbncserver on the openzaurus? |
| 04:50.42 | kergoth | my god you're dense. |
| 04:50.46 | kergoth | the fix is a non broken mknod |
| 04:50.58 | sig | pyromance: it said nothing about the linking |
| 04:50.59 | sig | kergoth: ? |
| 04:51.02 | kergoth | which is included in recent busybox |
| 04:51.12 | sig | kergoth: I did upgrade the busybox package |
| 04:51.15 | kergoth | but you can grab an arm mknod binary from coreutils instead |
| 04:51.17 | sig | and thats where it got hosed |
| 04:51.17 | kergoth | yes, you did |
| 04:51.23 | kergoth | and it failed for completelyd ifferent reasons |
| 04:51.26 | sig | so what did I do wrong? |
| 04:51.26 | kergoth | did i say it would work? |
| 04:51.28 | kergoth | fuck no i didnt. |
| 04:51.30 | kergoth | i said busybox has the fix |
| 04:51.31 | sig | chill |
| 04:51.32 | kergoth | which it does |
| 04:51.34 | sig | I'm just asking |
| 04:51.53 | kergoth | again, busybox has the fix, but hte packaging changed |
| 04:51.54 | sig | ok if busybox had the fix why did mine get hosed? thats all I'm asking |
| 04:51.59 | kergoth | did you even read when i wrote that to james? |
| 04:52.03 | kergoth | and his reply that thats what you ran into? |
| 04:52.05 | kergoth | obviously not. |
| 04:52.13 | sig | no I was trying to flash this |
| 04:52.20 | kergoth | okay, scroll up and read |
| 04:52.25 | sig | geez |
| 04:52.26 | kergoth | i do not like repeating myself. |
| 04:52.27 | pyromance | kergoth: He was busy wishing various venerial diseases upon me. |
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| 04:52.53 | sig | kergoth: I upgraded it with the unstable busybox package |
| 04:52.58 | kergoth | yes, you did. |
| 04:53.04 | kergoth | and? |
| 04:53.17 | sig | <kergoth> james_lan-home: yes, unstable busybox has that fixed. |
| 04:53.23 | kergoth | you seem to imply that this will in some way change my response |
| 04:53.26 | kergoth | yes, it does have that fixed. |
| 04:53.34 | sig | why did mine break then? |
| 04:53.36 | kergoth | but ITS FUCKING PACKAGING CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY |
| 04:53.40 | kergoth | can you fucking read? |
| 04:53.41 | kergoth | jesus christ |
| 04:53.43 | sig | yeah |
| 04:53.43 | james_lan-home | you *might* be able to do it if you run a full shell (bash and utils) and doing it all by mknod ing if you knew all the things you needed to make, however, not even I would be crazy enough to do that. |
| 04:53.47 | kergoth | want me to paste it for you? |
| 04:53.54 | sig | no chill out |
| 04:53.56 | sig | fuck this |
| 04:53.56 | kergoth | since scrolling up is obviously beyond your capabilities. |
| 04:54.21 | kergoth | 23:50 < kergoth> james_lan-home: however, its packaging changed significantly. |
| 04:54.24 | kergoth | 23:51 < james_lan-home> and that's what sig discovered the hard way I take it. |
| 04:54.27 | kergoth | 23:51 < kergoth> james_lan-home: precisely |
| 04:54.50 | Teppich | Warren, I got a mail stating: "The Hawaii Open Source Education Foundation is not a Verified PayPal member." and they returned the payment. I payed via the web-formular you had linked to |
| 04:54.56 | james_lan-home | sig: the package upgrade is broken, and while busybox has the upgrade, the package changed to where ipkg can't install it properly from an upgrade. |
| 04:54.56 | W8TVI | sig, whats wrong with you? your worse than me! |
| 04:55.06 | Teppich | xcuse me, wrong channel |
| 04:55.23 | kergoth | why do people seem to want me to repeat shit over and over until it sinks in today? |
| 04:57.12 | james_lan-home | night all |
| 04:57.34 | *** part/#openzaurus james_lan-home (~james@ip68-102-110-198.ks.ok.cox.net) |
| 04:58.45 | W8TVI | have fun |
| 05:02.16 | sig | got it back to normal |
| 05:02.46 | sig | kergoth: I just didn't understand what you mean by the packaging has changed, doesn't mean you can talk to me like that, that is fucked up. |
| 05:03.11 | pyromance | sig: His house, his rules. |
| 05:03.15 | pyromance | hey kergoth |
| 05:03.25 | sig | pyromance: where you from? |
| 05:03.39 | pyromance | check kergoth@handhelds.org |
| 05:03.50 | pyromance | sig: Born and raised in Chicago. |
| 05:03.58 | sig | nm |
| 05:04.00 | pyromance | *cough* living in Phoenix. |
| 05:04.16 | sig | you ever come to Idaho? |
| 05:04.39 | pyromance | Um ... I've been through about 42 states of the union. None of which were famous for potatos. |
| 05:04.49 | sig | when you do let me know |
| 05:05.14 | pyromance | but if I ever make it up there, I'll hand you your $10, a CF card reader, a CF card, and will make damn sure VNC works before I leave. |
| 05:05.37 | sig | no I got it all fixed |
| 05:05.41 | sig | I just want to kick you in the face |
| 05:05.43 | sig | :) |
| 05:05.45 | sig | thats all |
| 05:05.46 | sig | hehe |
| 05:06.15 | pyromance | I'll accept that, with the smug grin of knowing I got my VNC to work on the first try. |
| 05:06.27 | sig | I did to |
| 05:06.33 | sig | then I'll take you to coffee |
| 05:06.38 | sig | pyromance: no serious now |
| 05:06.40 | pyromance | Cheers. |
| 05:07.00 | sig | the only thing that didn't work was the keyboard through vnc, my pointer worked unlike the guys in the forum |
| 05:07.08 | pyromance | It's been a while since I got a good kick in the face. They don't do it at work anymore 'cause they need me there. |
| 05:07.52 | pyromance | sig: The root cause was the same. I just didn't follow the solution ot to completion. I'll apologize for that if you apologize for getting testy toward the people trying to help you. |
| 05:08.45 | sig | sure |
| 05:08.48 | kergoth | 23:39 < kergoth> heh, its not his fault |
| 05:08.48 | kergoth | 23:40 < kergoth> the upgrade path is hosed |
| 05:08.48 | kergoth | 23:40 < sig> I listend to pyromance |
| 05:08.48 | kergoth | 23:40 < kergoth> because ipkg cant handle it |
| 05:09.03 | kergoth | 1) ipkg cant handle it, 2) "packaging changed" |
| 05:09.15 | kergoth | implies, the packaging changed in such a way as to break ipkg's upgrade path |
| 05:09.25 | sig | ok cool kergoth fair enough |
| 05:09.39 | sig | so I guess I'll have to wait for a fix right? |
| 05:10.02 | kergoth | best fix is to build an unstable image or find someone who has, or wait for the next release image |
| 05:10.11 | kergoth | ipkg isnt getting fixed any time soon, it needs a rewrite |
| 05:10.49 | sig | k |
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| 05:10.51 | sig | I'll just wait |
| 05:10.54 | sig | I can do with ssh |
| 05:10.59 | sig | but vnc is just fun |
| 05:11.04 | pyromance | Two ways around it. First of which is to grab the binary of busybox out and write a script to make sure your symbolic links point to that. Second is to steal the busybox binary from either the unstable feed or the sharp ROM and update the symbolic link for mknod only to point to the new binary, then reboot |
| 05:11.05 | sig | other than that 3.2 is rockin |
| 05:11.19 | sig | my pretec lan card works, linksys wireless, cf , sd , etc... |
| 05:11.27 | pyromance | kergoth: Get your mail yet? |
| 05:11.40 | kergoth | mutt tells me my mailbox is unchanged |
| 05:11.45 | kergoth | so guess not |
| 05:11.50 | pyromance | hmm |
| 05:12.41 | pyromance | kergoth: You have bawlz |
| 05:13.09 | pyromance | or something |
| 05:13.24 | pyromance | You have a ThinkGeek account? |
| 05:13.56 | kergoth | hm, not sure if i do or not |
| 05:14.13 | kergoth | i need to get to bed, have to pick up my mom and little bro from the airport in the morning |
| 05:19.16 | pyromance | Bed is starting to sound like a great idea |
| 05:19.30 | pyromance | considering I woke up 24 hours ago to go to work. I am glad I have no work tonigh |
| 05:19.39 | pyromance | Let someone else the porn servers for a change. |
| 05:27.51 | sig | how do I install something to a device? |
| 05:28.05 | sig | ipkg install name.ipk /path/to/card ? |
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| 06:58.18 | sig | they all are |
| 06:59.03 | sig | lexar media are good |
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| 11:15.57 | Ronnybfa | hi, i have an ipaq 3970 with familiar .7 and opie 1 i need to connect it to the internet via irda - gprs on a nokia 6100 and via bluetooth and gprs on a t68i, can someone help me with it ? |
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| 11:45.19 | George`ZZzz | Ronnybfa: in case you haven't realised, this is a Zaurus-based channel. |
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| 11:52.26 | prh | anyone around? particularly anyone with OZ compiled and running on a 750 :O) |
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| 15:17.18 | markd2 | ow |
| 15:18.45 | jo2y-work | markd2: you mac user! |
| 15:18.56 | markd2 | heh |
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| 15:37.39 | George- | jo2y-work: what's wrong with using Macs? |
| 15:42.06 | jo2y-work | George-: markd2 uses them, that's what's wrong. |
| 15:42.14 | George- | jo2y-work: you bastard. |
| 15:42.19 | George- | Hostname: titanium - OS: Linux 2.4.21-ben2/ppc - CPU: Motorola PowerPC G4 7450, altivec supported (667MHz) - Processes: 77 - Uptime: 1d 21h 26m - Load Average: 2.94 - Memory Usage: 146.13mb/501.91mb (29.12%) - Disk Usage: 26.43gb/73.21gb (36.10%) |
| 15:42.22 | George- | I'm running on one. |
| 15:42.30 | jo2y-work | but you're not markd2. |
| 15:42.38 | George- | that's irrelevant |
| 15:42.45 | jo2y-work | no it isn't. |
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| 15:43.02 | George- | yes it is. |
| 15:43.34 | jo2y-work | by extention, you're saying my opinion is irrelevant. |
| 15:43.41 | George- | yes. |
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| 15:55.31 | sig | so with openzaurus can I use qtopia to sync with it? |
| 15:58.25 | Cope | Anyone hot OZ syncing with KOrganiser? |
| 15:58.56 | sig | what sync program can I use to transfer files and such with oz ? |
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| 16:01.17 | George- | sig: ssh |
| 16:01.18 | George- | :P |
| 16:01.25 | sig | yeah thats what I'm using now |
| 16:01.26 | sig | :P |
| 16:01.35 | sig | I'm talking like that qtopia shit |
| 16:03.30 | George- | oh wait |
| 16:03.35 | George- | got your busybox working again yet? :P |
| 16:03.40 | sig | hah |
| 16:03.46 | sig | no, I'm not going to touch it! |
| 16:04.00 | sig | my pointer works but not my keyboard, so I'll just leave it at that. |
| 16:04.06 | George- | ROFL |
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| 16:04.57 | sig | media-player2 fails to install |
| 16:05.18 | George- | known/ |
| 16:05.24 | George- | just force it |
| 16:05.40 | sig | is this good advice or are you messing around? |
| 16:08.04 | sig | couldn't satisfy the following dependencies for opie-mediaplayer2. libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 |
| 16:08.17 | George- | FORCE IT |
| 16:10.26 | sig | force overwrite ? |
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| 16:10.56 | sig | force depends ; force reinstall ; force remove ; force overwrite ; verbose WGet... thats my options |
| 16:11.02 | pyromance | hi sig! |
| 16:11.08 | sig | sup pyromance |
| 16:11.54 | pyromance | Trying to get Kismet 3.0.1 to work on the SL5500 |
| 16:11.57 | pyromance | No luck so far |
| 16:12.34 | sig | pyromance: where do you download handheld movie clips and such? |
| 16:13.08 | pyromance | pocketmovies! |
| 16:13.25 | pyromance | www.pocketmovies.net |
| 16:14.47 | sig | this opie movieplayer2 failed big time even when I forced it George- |
| 16:15.29 | sig | dosn't work |
| 16:15.34 | sig | failed to link like everythign |
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| 16:35.08 | sig | for some reason my screenshot applet disapeared |
| 16:35.13 | sig | but shows it is still installed |
| 16:35.13 | sig | heh |
| 16:43.09 | pyromance | what did I miss? |
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| 16:44.54 | pyromance | sig: does it show unchecked in your launcher settings? |
| 16:47.49 | sig | it isn't even there |
| 16:47.53 | sig | but it shows installed |
| 16:47.56 | pyromance | ick |
| 16:47.57 | pyromance | hmm |
| 16:49.51 | pyromance | ssh'ing into the z |
| 16:49.55 | sig | I got it |
| 16:50.00 | pyromance | Beat me to it |
| 16:50.03 | sig | it can't be installed to sd or /root |
| 16:50.05 | sig | err |
| 16:50.06 | pyromance | I was going to check the ipkg info |
| 16:50.09 | sig | sd or /ram |
| 16:50.12 | sig | has to be /root |
| 16:50.29 | pyromance | even after an ipkg-link? |
| 16:50.45 | sig | it'll install, but not show up on the taskbar |
| 16:50.53 | pyromance | weird |
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| 16:51.10 | sig | I'm happy |
| 16:51.11 | pyromance | Most apps that are particular about that are opposite |
| 16:51.16 | sig | everything is working awesome |
| 16:51.59 | pyromance | Haha... I don't have scshot installed |
| 16:52.08 | pyromance | No wonder I was having problems finding it |
| 16:52.12 | sig | lol |
| 16:52.31 | pyromance | Generally my Zaurus screenshots are nothing impressive |
| 16:52.45 | pyromance | I'm not a developer so I can't offer anything new |
| 16:52.47 | sig | brb, time to cvsup |
| 16:53.14 | pyromance | Only thing I ever made was a background http://pyromaniac.net/storage/zboot.bmp |
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| 16:54.43 | sig | pyromance: you use linux or a unix? |
| 16:54.50 | sig | for pc |
| 16:57.11 | pyromance | My Linux box is currently running RedHat 9. I am going to try Gentoo on my briefcase when I am done learning the Win2000 stuff I need for work. |
| 16:57.23 | sig | hmm |
| 16:57.27 | sig | I use FreeBSD |
| 16:57.31 | sig | you should give it a shot |
| 16:57.36 | pyromance | I use FreeBSD a lot at work. |
| 16:57.39 | sig | I'm on a Linux box atm though |
| 16:57.49 | sig | but all my boxes are freebsd |
| 16:58.00 | Subway | hmmmmm |
| 16:58.02 | sig | 4.9-PRERELEASE now |
| 16:58.11 | pyromance | We have a few hundred FreeBSD 4.3 boxes that are left from before we migrated to Linux |
| 16:58.28 | sig | are you still using them? |
| 16:58.40 | Subway | give them to me ;) |
| 16:58.41 | sig | why did you migrate to linux? |
| 16:58.51 | pyromance | It wasn't up to me ;) |
| 16:59.12 | Subway | I run a little bit of everything on my desktop pc |
| 16:59.16 | pyromance | I guess 'cause it's cheaper to hire people with Linux experience |
| 16:59.23 | Subway | I am really enjoying freebsd |
| 16:59.23 | pyromance | Subway: VMware? |
| 16:59.48 | Subway | pyromance: no, I use the desktop as just kind of a "hey, lets throw this os on and play with it for a week or so" |
| 16:59.50 | Subway | box |
| 16:59.59 | Subway | I use my laptop for 'production' |
| 16:59.59 | pyromance | Oh |
| 17:00.09 | Subway | it is a 17" powerbook |
| 17:00.15 | Subway | e-penis++ |
| 17:00.18 | sig | I want one of those |
| 17:00.24 | Subway | i love mine |
| 17:00.27 | sig | Subway: how much did you pay for it? |
| 17:00.41 | Subway | too much |
| 17:00.53 | Subway | I got it for ~2800 after my developer's discount |
| 17:00.54 | pyromance | My primary box is my gaming box... Only one with the specs to play good stuff so it keeps XP Pro on it. My old broke Celeron 466 is always Linux ... MP3/movie/intranet server for my apartment. My briefcase is my development box |
| 17:00.55 | sig | yeah, for the price of those things you could buy a car |
| 17:01.19 | Subway | sig: dont remind me.... I am in need of a car now heh |
| 17:01.28 | sig | lol |
| 17:01.30 | sig | bbl |
| 17:01.39 | pyromance | Subway: Heh... Got a Nissan Sentra. Fair trade. |
| 17:01.55 | Subway | hehe |
| 17:02.10 | Subway | I drive a 98 S-10 right now, it is a loaner... probably going to buy it |
| 17:02.14 | pyromance | I wouldn't be able to get to work anymore... would get fired eventually .. |
| 17:02.31 | pyromance | Aah.. My 96 Sentra GXE is all I need. |
| 17:02.43 | Subway | I have a car, but since I just moved to Louisville, Ky I dont like driving it around (79 monte carlo) |
| 17:02.58 | pyromance | 30 mpg city, 40 mpg highway. Perfect for when some asshat turns off Phoenix's gas supply. |
| 17:03.03 | Subway | she is in such great shape if i drove it to work etc it would be beat up in no time |
| 17:04.15 | pyromance | Heh... I hear that |
| 17:04.59 | pyromance | http://pyromaniac.net/car.jpg |
| 17:06.41 | pyromance | Hmm... why is my CPU 48C today? Normally it hangs around 42 degrees... |
| 17:07.02 | pyromance | oooops ... hehe nm |
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| 17:17.14 | Teppich | hi |
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| 17:22.46 | Bernardo | hi |
| 17:26.59 | Teppich | Anybody help me to connect my Z via wlan? It is getting dhcp-offers but seems not to give a response to that offer to the notebook with running dhcp on wavelan interface |
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| 18:05.38 | zlvr | gday all |
| 18:06.00 | Bernardo | hi zlvr |
| 18:06.13 | zlvr | have a question here ... I am about to backup the stuff on my C750 (from the Sharp ROM) so that I can try out OZ |
| 18:07.14 | zlvr | After I have created the backup (on my XP machine OR on an CF card and then transfer that to the PC via a reader) from OZ is there a way to restore this back up and come back to the Original Sharp ROM ? |
| 18:08.29 | zlvr | whats a recommended method for the backup ? Tar everything onto a CF card starting from the "/" directory ? OR, using the utility provided by Sharp ? |
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| 18:17.33 | zlvr | anyone here who can help me ? |
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| 18:30.13 | jo2y-work | markd2: you, you...satellite user! |
| 18:32.44 | George- | jo2y-work: stop being a silly arse |
| 18:33.10 | markd2 | darn these three minute latencies, jo2y-work! |
| 18:33.18 | markd2 | I'll get you three minutes from now! |
| 18:33.56 | zlvr | hi folks ... anyone here at this hour who could help me with flashing my C750 to OZ ? |
| 18:34.08 | zlvr | or point me to a doc/site where this is detailed ? |
| 18:34.21 | George- | It can't be done unless you're willing to use buildroot |
| 18:34.25 | George- | from what I can tell |
| 18:34.27 | George- | ibot shepherd |
| 18:34.28 | | extra, extra, read all about it, shepherd is Sharp Zaurus SL-C750 or a dog |
| 18:35.18 | zlvr | eww what is that ? |
| 18:38.31 | zlvr | ibot reflash |
| 18:38.31 | | methinks reflash is documented at handhelds.org/~pb/README.reflash, or via jtag wires described at http://axl.freeyellow.com/iPAQ/jtag.htm |
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| 18:49.31 | zlvr | Is there a way to go back to the Sharp ROM from a previously backed up (via Backup/Restore) C750 ? Or if I have the original NAND Backup files ? |
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| 18:52.08 | dade` | any news about oz on sharp 5600 ? |
| 18:52.32 | dade` | i tried yesterday the poddle rom buy it does not run at all |
| 18:53.38 | Subway | hmmm |
| 18:53.45 | Subway | I ordered a new cellphone today off amazon |
| 18:53.50 | Subway | says it is supposed to ship out today |
| 18:53.54 | Subway | and be delivered today |
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| 19:09.46 | zlvr | tomimo ... hi ... are you familiar with reflashing |
| 19:13.16 | tomimo | I have only flashed OZ couple of times ... :) |
| 19:13.29 | tomimo | what kind of problem you have ? |
| 19:13.49 | zlvr | on which device ? |
| 19:14.05 | zlvr | I have a C750 ... |
| 19:14.15 | zlvr | am not sure whether to take the plunge as yet |
| 19:16.03 | pyromance | OK so yeah |
| 19:16.08 | tomimo | ah, I have SL5500 |
| 19:16.13 | pyromance | what did I miss? |
| 19:16.21 | tomimo | I don't think other models are too well supported atm. |
| 19:17.05 | zlvr | pyromance THE MAN ! |
| 19:18.21 | pyromance | Hello ... |
| 19:18.26 | pyromance | Do I know you? ;) |
| 19:18.39 | zlvr | now you do :) ... Dude need some help here |
| 19:18.56 | pyromance | OK but I make no guarantees on the help I provide |
| 19:19.05 | zlvr | :) thats not a problem |
| 19:19.37 | pyromance | 'cause if you asked sig, I torched his Z and he had to reflash |
| 19:19.45 | sig | hehe |
| 19:20.06 | zlvr | I was doing a "tar cvf /mnt/card/z.tar /" on the C750 so that I can have a tar backup ... when that thing reached /proc/sys/suspend, it turned off |
| 19:20.15 | zlvr | this is before I tried OZ on it |
| 19:20.26 | pyromance | try --exclude ? |
| 19:20.53 | zlvr | now it seems stuck when I pressed the on/off key ... or is running very slow |
| 19:20.58 | pyromance | You want to exclude all of /proc /dev and maybe /mnt/cf |
| 19:21.04 | zlvr | should I just power it off ? |
| 19:21.14 | zlvr | or will that brick the Z / |
| 19:21.23 | pyromance | That really depends on what's wrong.. hmm |
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| 19:21.38 | pyromance | Slow you say? Run top and see if some proc is chewing up resources |
| 19:21.42 | zlvr | its weird ... maybe I'll try pulling out the SD card |
| 19:21.57 | pyromance | Umm .. is it mounted? |
| 19:22.07 | pyromance | A simple failed tar shouldn't torch your Z |
| 19:22.15 | zlvr | can't since I am not able to enter anything ... yes the z.cat tar backup file is on the SD card |
| 19:22.35 | zlvr | cool :) ... |
| 19:22.44 | zlvr | so do you have a C750/760 ? |
| 19:22.45 | pyromance | try umount /mnt/card |
| 19:23.09 | zlvr | nothing is responding on screen taps |
| 19:23.23 | pyromance | can you type in the console? |
| 19:23.36 | pyromance | Hahaha... just found my dremel manual ... They come with manuals? |
| 19:24.32 | zlvr | its just printing chars on the screen of stuff it is probably backing up ... nope cant type in console ... its now showing /proc/sys/net/ipv4/neigh/default/delay_first_probe_time |
| 19:25.02 | pyromance | So the backup proccess is still running ... Is it on the network? Can you ssh in? |
| 19:25.32 | zlvr | nope :( no ssh on the Z ... its connected to my XP PC via the USB cable |
| 19:25.41 | pyromance | What OS? |
| 19:25.52 | zlvr | Win XP |
| 19:25.59 | pyromance | Er.. ROM on the Z? OpenZaurus? |
| 19:26.08 | zlvr | Sharp ... Want to go to OZ :) |
| 19:26.17 | zlvr | thats why I am backing up |
| 19:26.25 | pyromance | Well do you have anything on the Z that you really need to keep? |
| 19:26.32 | zlvr | already have a backup on CF via the backup/restore utility |
| 19:26.42 | pyromance | That won't do you much good moving to OZ |
| 19:27.26 | pyromance | Best thing to do when moving to OZ is reinstall everything. Don't ask me about PIM stuff either. I never use the PIMs. |
| 19:27.29 | zlvr | well ... I have that in a backup ... I have just PIMS etc which are synced from outlook anyways ... so its ok if I loose them ... just have a backup in case I want to move back to the Sharp ROM ... will that restore Qtopia and all the apps ? |
| 19:27.52 | pyromance | Well you'll be using Opie instead of qtopia |
| 19:28.04 | zlvr | yeah I don't mind reinstalling stuff after moving to OZ ... |
| 19:28.06 | zlvr | yup |
| 19:28.06 | pyromance | So it's more wise to reinstall the apps |
| 19:28.37 | pyromance | I've done so many ROM flashes I can do it in my sleep. The only thing I ever get upset about is losing my Froot high schores |
| 19:28.40 | zlvr | but is the process reversible ... if I want to move back to the Sharp ROM ? I have an original NAND backup file from conics.net |
| 19:28.47 | zlvr | hahaha |
| 19:29.00 | pyromance | ooooh. You want to save stuff in case you move back |
| 19:29.01 | pyromance | Hmm |
| 19:29.15 | zlvr | yes |
| 19:29.24 | zlvr | :) |
| 19:29.42 | pyromance | Well the best generic advice in ROM flashing is just to keep a backup of all your apps, and sync your PIM data if you can |
| 19:29.50 | zlvr | already done |
| 19:30.03 | zlvr | using the Backup/Restore utility ... |
| 19:30.09 | pyromance | Because I've had little luck backing up / restoring from TARs |
| 19:30.09 | zlvr | and sync'd with outlook |
| 19:30.23 | zlvr | ok not a problem ...was just using that as a second backup |
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| 19:30.47 | pyromance | The only time I had great success with a tar is when I upgraded from 64m to 256M SD cards... but since the SD is a mountable non-root filesystem it's easier. |
| 19:31.21 | pyromance | tar keeps bombing out on me for other reasons backing up root ... There's always SOMETHING open (even at runlevel 2) that keeps making it a pain in the ass |
| 19:31.32 | zlvr | :) ... guess the tar is over ... I have my Z operational again |
| 19:34.26 | zlvr | so what's the process to go back to the Sharp ROM if I have to ? After I have that confirmed, I am ready to flash OZ (what files do I need for the C750 and where are they) ? |
| 19:37.14 | zlvr | pyromance ? |
| 19:38.58 | pyromance | Can't tell you on a C7xx ... never did it |
| 19:39.25 | pyromance | Do you have a factory OSPACK? |
| 19:40.56 | zlvr | oh nope for the C750 ... but I do have a NAND backup from conics.net ... which I guess should help me get back |
| 19:41.42 | pyromance | BRB: Espresso pot is going nuts |
| 19:43.26 | zlvr | sure dude |
| 19:43.40 | pyromance | Hmm ... let me hit google for a sec |
| 19:44.04 | pyromance | Which model do you have? |
| 19:44.10 | zlvr | SL-C750 |
| 19:44.14 | pyromance | k |
| 19:48.53 | zlvr | http://downloads.conics.net/pda/zaurus-sl-c700/service-menus/ <--- NAND backups (Original for the C750/C76) |
| 19:49.12 | zlvr | s/C76/C760) |
| 19:50.21 | pyromance | Hmm |
| 19:50.36 | pyromance | Yeah.. Dunno ... You got the Z from Conics? |
| 19:50.58 | zlvr | yeah |
| 19:51.08 | zlvr | but its accessible by anyone |
| 19:51.20 | zlvr | anyways ... plz let me know what I should do to reflash ? |
| 19:51.50 | pyromance | Like I said... Never played with a C7x0 series |
| 19:52.09 | pyromance | If you send me one, I'll be glad to flash it, brick it, fix it, and write all sorts of docs on the procedure ;) |
| 19:52.19 | zlvr | hmmm ... hahaha |
| 19:52.37 | pyromance | On the SL-5500, you put the initrd.bin and zImage on a CF card (it doesn't like Microdrives) |
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| 19:53.41 | zlvr | hmmm ... thx ... trying that soon ... will let you know ... |
| 19:54.18 | pyromance | Then insert the card, plug it in to the DC, flip the switch, remove the battery lid, hold down C and D on the keyboard while hitting the full reset switch in back, release the CD keys, watch to make sure both the mail and charging lights are on. Let it sit until they turn off, hit the reset button again, replace the battery door, flip the switch back, and power it on. |
| 19:54.38 | pyromance | Cake ;) |
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| 19:54.54 | pyromance | BRB: finishing making mocha |
| 19:57.24 | zlvr | sure |
| 19:57.54 | pyromance | From this day forward I am the god of coffee |
| 19:58.01 | pyromance | PERFECT ... ever time |
| 19:58.25 | pyromance | Cacko has an C7x0 ROM ... they may have instruction |
| 19:58.36 | zlvr | cacko ? |
| 19:59.17 | Subway | woohoo a bookstore next to the university i work at has jolt in stock |
| 20:00.07 | pyromance | Subway: kergoth was having a bad day yesterday with people blaming OZ for non-OZ-specific problems and yelling for support |
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| 20:00.27 | pyromance | So I got him a $15 ThinkGeek gift cert as a "donation" and told him to buy some caffeine. |
| 20:00.48 | pyromance | Though the coffee products there are more expensive than the Tshirts |
| 20:01.13 | pyromance | Which reminds me ... wellenreiter needs a donation pot too. |
| 20:01.17 | Subway | heh |
| 20:01.36 | Subway | pyromance: you can give me a $15 gift cert |
| 20:02.21 | pyromance | Subway: Get Kismet 2.0.1 into a working, sd-installable ipk for the SL-5500 / OZ 3.2 and I'll buy you a T-shirt. |
| 20:02.37 | pyromance | er ... 3.0.1? |
| 20:02.40 | pyromance | What's the latest? |
| 20:09.04 | Subway | i ordered a 256 last night |
| 20:09.44 | pyromance | The 256 SD card was a good purchase for me. It lets me use my microdrive for movies and lets me wardrive and listen to MP3s at the same time |
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| 20:10.00 | Subway | how much is a microdrive? |
| 20:10.10 | Subway | for a decent sized one |
| 20:10.11 | pyromance | My 340 was $60 delivered on eBay |
| 20:10.21 | fdask | USD? |
| 20:10.44 | pyromance | Yep. It wasn't in retail packaging but was factory sealed |
| 20:11.09 | Subway | hmmmm |
| 20:11.13 | Subway | landlord just got here |
| 20:11.43 | pyromance | Oh that reminds me.. |
| 20:12.02 | pyromance | gonna disassemble a WiFi USB dongle today. See if I can get an antenna patched in |
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| 20:13.06 | pyromance | That's how I do it too ... badly |
| 20:13.35 | Subway | pyromance: huh? |
| 20:13.48 | fdask | haha |
| 20:13.58 | pyromance | You need to clean badly |
| 20:14.01 | pyromance | I clean badly too. |
| 20:14.04 | Subway | heh |
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| 20:15.38 | Subway | so, where can i get some oz themes? |
| 20:15.52 | pyromance | Hmm .. the wifi USB dongle's "antenna" is just .. well .. a WIRE |
| 20:16.34 | fdask | surprised? |
| 20:17.07 | pyromance | Not really... Was just hoping there'd be more to it |
| 20:17.55 | pyromance | Oh well :D |
| 20:18.32 | Subway | so, whould i upgrade to opie 1.0? |
| 20:19.26 | stonage | hey, that reminds me, are there any op2 themes? They have screenshots of one on opie's site, but I haven't found any downloads |
| 20:19.41 | zlvr | Ok folks ... is http://openzaurus.org/official/experimental/shepherd/ the correct OZ version to use for the C750 ? |
| 20:21.15 | Bernardo | I've yet to see a theme for oz 3.x... |
| 20:21.30 | redtoade-w | so opie and oz are the same thing, right? |
| 20:22.13 | Bernardo | no - opie is the graphical server, oz the dist |
| 20:22.19 | redtoade-w | Bernardo: joke |
| 20:22.34 | fdask | is there going to be a new OZ release that comes with OPIE 1.0? and maybe an updated kernel? |
| 20:22.34 | redtoade-w | I was expecting a rabid onslaught... like what happened late last night here |
| 20:22.53 | pyromance | OPIE AND OZ ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS |
| 20:22.58 | pyromance | they're just packaged together ;) hehe |
| 20:23.01 | redtoade-w | heh, like that |
| 20:23.10 | pyromance | "So Windows and Dell are the same thing, right?" |
| 20:23.12 | fdask | understood |
| 20:23.16 | Bernardo | redtoade-w: I didn't see that one... Just heard that kergoth`zzz was a little pissed off... |
| 20:23.20 | Subway | ok ok sorry |
| 20:23.22 | fdask | but like, OZ needs a new repackaging |
| 20:23.32 | Subway | i'll use the correct terms next time heh |
| 20:24.00 | Bernardo | fdask: I am using a snapshot with opie 1.0, which I think I got from a link in opie site |
| 20:24.16 | pyromance | Hmm |
| 20:24.24 | redtoade-w | who's responsible for the openzarus.org website? |
| 20:24.25 | fdask | oh really? thanks for the tip. i will explore. |
| 20:24.31 | pyromance | Someone needs to write a script that'll package your existing ROM as a flashable ROM |
| 20:24.32 | Bernardo | I was hoping to have my buildroot compiled by now, but no luck... |
| 20:24.55 | Bernardo | pyromance: I never found nothing like that for the collie |
| 20:25.02 | redtoade-w | nm... it's noda |
| 20:25.43 | pyromance | I could never distribute my ROM 'cause it has commercial apps in it, but I'd love to have a snap-in backup |
| 20:25.55 | redtoade-w | pyromance: your rom? |
| 20:25.58 | redtoade-w | pyromance: URL? |
| 20:26.15 | pyromance | redtoade-w: http://192.168.2.23 |
| 20:26.18 | pyromance | No it's not a real rom |
| 20:26.26 | redtoade-w | pyromance: funny |
| 20:26.27 | fdask | lol |
| 20:26.39 | pyromance | That's the IP of the Zaurus on my desk: Read above.. "I wish I could package my ROM" |
| 20:26.45 | Bernardo | Well, the one that came with my zaurus I'd loved to have backed up, since it isn't to be found anywere (2.39) |
| 20:26.59 | pyromance | I am using OZ 3.2 stable with Opie 1.0 installed by hand, a few other minor modifications, etc. |
| 20:27.11 | redtoade-w | pyromance: oh, I thought it was a 127.0.0.1 joke |
| 20:27.17 | George- | pyromance: almost the same as me :) |
| 20:27.30 | George- | pyromance: I'm running OZ 3.2 stable with Opie 1.0 installed from the feeds, and kernel 2.4.18 |
| 20:27.37 | pyromance | redtoade-w: Naw... I need a full keyboard for IRC |
| 20:28.06 | pyromance | George-: I've yet to upgrade my kernel. To be honest, I don't know how on the Z |
| 20:28.17 | zlvr | George- : Is this on the C750 ? |
| 20:28.17 | George- | pyromance: sucker |
| 20:28.21 | George- | zlvr: 5000D |
| 20:28.30 | zlvr | Ok ... I have downloaded the files from the shepherd directory ... |
| 20:28.37 | pyromance | But today being a day off, it's a good time to learn. Did it require flashing an beta ROM or ... ? |
| 20:28.55 | George- | I compiled my own kernel |
| 20:28.55 | zlvr | now which files do I need to copy on the CF card ? |
| 20:29.06 | George- | I copied the modules across whilst the machine was running 2.4.6 |
| 20:29.11 | George- | and then I flashed on the zImage for 2.4.18. |
| 20:29.14 | George- | Simple really. |
| 20:29.25 | pyromance | hmm ... |
| 20:30.26 | pyromance | George-: You get the cookie for the day if you can be more specific ;) |
| 20:31.07 | George- | pyromance: sod off and die |
| 20:31.11 | George- | pyromance: I've got work to do |
| 20:31.49 | pyromance | oh neat: http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/wi-zaurus/ |
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| 20:32.33 | yeiazel | ibm rox |
| 20:32.56 | pyromance | Score one for Big Blue |
| 20:33.19 | fdask | nice link |
| 20:35.23 | zlvr | I mean ... I have the initrd.bin, zimage and update.sh files on CF ... whats the next step ... how do I make the C750 read these files ? DM method/OK+Cancel method <--- what exact;y is this ? |
| 20:38.45 | zlvr | I mean ... I have the initrd.bin, zimage and update.sh files on CF ... whats the next step ... how do I make the C750 read these files ? DM method/OK+Cancel method <--- what exact;y is this ? |
| 21:00.21 | zlvr | HI ... am installing OZ on the C750 ... how long does it take to reflash ? |
| 21:00.59 | zlvr | It seems stuck at Progress 45 of 138 packages .... Packages task-opie-minimal --> qte-fonts... |
| 21:01.05 | zlvr | for about 5 mi utes now |
| 21:02.20 | Subway | are you doign and upgrade? |
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| 21:02.45 | zlvr | nope ... fresh install ... its doing something now ... |
| 21:02.56 | zlvr | yes I see progress ... 56 packages |
| 21:06.48 | Subway | so where did you get your c750? |
| 21:06.52 | Subway | and how much was it |
| 21:08.59 | pyromance | George-: Damn you ... I've been hunting for advice on upgrading "kernel only" since you mentioned it ;) |
| 21:10.14 | George- | pyromance: you stupid bastard |
| 21:14.25 | zlvr | subway ... Conics.net : $629 ,,, with the extended battery add another $85 |
| 21:14.34 | Subway | hmmm |
| 21:14.40 | zlvr | yipeee I have OZ running with Opie on the C750 !! |
| 21:16.24 | pyromance | For the life of me, I cannot find my AA backup that I built for my SL-5500 :( |
| 21:18.33 | zlvr | does OZ sync with Outlook express ? |
| 21:31.23 | zlvr | does OZ sync with Outlook express ? |
| 21:34.14 | pyromance | So .. like ... what's the latest fully functional zImage? |
| 21:35.44 | zlvr | which box |
| 21:36.03 | pyromance | Collie ... SL-5500 |
| 21:36.28 | zlvr | oh ok :) |
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| 22:13.39 | pyromance | Hmm |
| 22:14.03 | pyromance | Anyone happen to know why a getty to ttyS0 in inittab on 2345 doesn't work? |
| 22:18.35 | Subway | the jigawatt amp isnt connected to the flux capacitor |
| 22:28.42 | zlvr | anyone here tried the unofficial experimental zImage for the &50 ? |
| 22:28.47 | zlvr | 750 >? |
| 22:41.02 | zlvr | hello there anyone here using the unofficial/experimental/shepherd version of OZ and seeing problems ? |
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| 23:06.03 | pyromance | So yeah |
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| 23:15.26 | polin8 | hey all |
| 23:20.48 | George- | kergoth`zzz: What's the difference between OpenZaurus and Opie? |
| 23:21.15 | treke | George-: Dont waste his time |
| 23:22.18 | George- | treke: bastard. |
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| 23:55.35 | zlvr | is there a limit on how many times one can reflash ? |
| 23:55.53 | zlvr | as in read/write max times on the flash chip ? |
| 23:55.57 | treke | yes |
| 23:56.12 | treke | usually it's about 10,000 times |
| 23:57.49 | zlvr | ok :) |
| 23:58.08 | zlvr | I have gone back to the Sharp ROM for now ... having a headache aleady with the small fonts in OZ ... |
| 23:58.20 | zlvr | everything restored from the NAND backup |
| 23:58.49 | zlvr | also I need to test some things with LEAP authentication ... |
| 23:58.55 | zlvr | with the Sharp RO |
| 23:58.56 | zlvr | ROM |
