| 00:00.06 | fdask | why build deps from src |
| 00:00.11 | fdask | cuz of gcc3? |
| 00:00.24 | bipolar | fdask: thats the way the buildroot works. |
| 00:00.51 | fdask | ah |
| 00:01.03 | fdask | i'm hoping to start learning buildroot system tonite |
| 00:01.15 | fdask | just finishing up an OPIE/arm compile now |
| 00:01.28 | fdask | did QT/OPIE (x86) and QT (arm) already |
| 00:01.28 | Subway | I may toss linux on an old 1ghz tbird i have sitting in the corner later |
| 00:02.07 | fdask | is bitkeeper a hassle to get going on linux? |
| 00:02.33 | bipolar | fdask: not at all |
| 00:03.19 | bipolar | fdask: bitkeeper is just one exec, and it's compiled staticly. |
| 00:03.59 | fdask | the buildroot system can spit out rom images ready 2 be flashed 2 a Z? |
| 00:07.04 | bipolar | fdask: yes |
| 00:07.18 | bipolar | fdask: initrd and zimage |
| 00:07.18 | fdask | awesome |
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| 00:14.29 | torment | mpg321 compiled for Z? |
| 00:14.32 | torment | somehwere |
| 00:14.33 | torment | ? |
| 00:15.08 | bipolar | torment: yes... check the feeds. |
| 00:15.20 | bipolar | torment: you might want madplay though. |
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| 00:16.18 | torment | ah good man, thx |
| 00:19.15 | fdask | http://www.openembedded.org/phpwiki/index.php/OzTODO <- is that the place to be looking for places to start helping? |
| 00:19.28 | fdask | or is there another site with a TODO list? |
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| 00:26.41 | Virusmaster | good evening, could someone with a zaurus 5500 send me the two files /usr/bin/ipkg and /usr/bin/update_alternatives? i experimented around and, as i am, i didnt make backups |
| 00:33.36 | Virusmaster | hat sich erledigt |
| 00:35.04 | torment | ; |
| 00:35.36 | bipolar | Has anyone here built with gcc 3.3 and had a problem when the build got to opieplayer2? |
| 00:36.21 | bipolar | ld: libopieplayer2.so.1.0.0: undefined versioned symbol name std::time_put_w@@GLIBCPP_3.2 |
| 00:43.57 | torment | looks like its picking up some lib thats compiled with the wrong symbol table |
| 00:44.08 | torment | I'd do a make clean |
| 00:44.13 | torment | but i'm weird like that |
| 00:44.48 | torment | I should be able to nfs mount my desktop machine on the z via wireless right? |
| 00:44.52 | torment | doing a soft mount? |
| 00:45.59 | torment | it just hangs when i do it |
| 00:48.51 | bipolar | torment: I guess I might as well try that. I don't know how that could have happened. |
| 00:49.29 | torment | bipolar: yeah looks weird |
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| 00:57.29 | bipolar | I know one thing. The sharp rom sucks hairy goat balls. |
| 00:58.01 | bipolar | I got my Z back from sharp service and it was flashed with the stock rom |
| 00:58.06 | bipolar | *eeewwwww* |
| 01:01.45 | w8tvi_ | why did they do that? |
| 01:06.58 | bipolar | becouse it was half loaded since I was trying to get the (broken) sd card to work. |
| 01:07.11 | w8tvi_ | ah |
| 01:07.18 | bipolar | I left a note saying they could reflash it if they needed too. |
| 01:07.43 | bipolar | as soon as my gcc3 build is finished, it's getting reflashed. :) |
| 01:07.50 | w8tvi_ | flashing with an SD card? |
| 01:23.35 | bipolar | w8tvi_: no. I was having problems with the SD card after flashing a test build, so I thought that it might have been the build. So I flashed it with OZ 3.2 to see if it worked. Then messed with that for a couple of hours before giving up. :) |
| 01:26.33 | w8tvi_ | ah |
| 01:28.04 | W8TVI | messing with mirc script for a while lets me get the basic jist of whats going on in the sourse code.... |
| 01:28.31 | W8TVI | but I still have no idea about how the API works ans such |
| 01:28.56 | W8TVI | and what have you |
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| 02:23.24 | scribe | Hey guys. |
| 02:23.51 | scribe | It's come that time again to try to rebuild qpsword with our latest 1.5.6 text engine which was just released. |
| 02:24.26 | scribe | are the buildroot instructions basically the same as 5 months ago? |
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| 03:36.51 | torment | anyone know of a commandline app to power off the lcd? |
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| 03:49.34 | torment | no? |
| 03:49.38 | torment | a |
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| 04:17.49 | Subway | so, anyone happen to have a nice initrd.bin with opie 1.0? |
| 04:20.01 | W8TVI | I'd like an OZ rom with the opie 1.0 on it |
| 04:22.41 | pyromance | I'd like a pony. |
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| 04:49.35 | Subway | the fun of doing laundry |
| 04:49.37 | Subway | woohoo |
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| 05:45.22 | fdask | once i have bitkeeper installed, how do i go about getting the OZ buildroot system? |
| 06:12.22 | treke|home | Read the faq |
| 06:15.39 | W8TVI | treke|home: I like "RTFM" better :P |
| 06:17.34 | fdask | RTFM, ah. thx. :) |
| 06:17.41 | fdask | which M? |
| 06:18.06 | W8TVI | don't you know the answer to that one? "Google it!" :P |
| 06:18.50 | fdask | and a elitist HAM? |
| 06:18.51 | fdask | :p |
| 06:19.02 | W8TVI | your expected to tell some one to RTFM |
| 06:19.33 | W8TVI | yeah, fdask... I can get the FCC to make you shut down your AP :P |
| 06:19.40 | fdask | haha |
| 06:19.57 | W8TVI | nah |
| 06:20.03 | fdask | thats fine. there's like 10 non-WEP open ones on block |
| 06:20.12 | fdask | on my block even |
| 06:20.32 | W8TVI | what I'd really like to do is get them to shut down the ones that you have to pay for |
| 06:20.38 | W8TVI | like at borders |
| 06:20.47 | fdask | ya |
| 06:21.22 | fdask | not many of those around me tho |
| 06:21.38 | fdask | but so many hackable APs |
| 06:21.53 | fdask | like, c'mon.. at least change your default AP password... make it a bit challenging |
| 06:21.55 | fdask | ;p |
| 06:22.11 | W8TVI | yeah |
| 06:22.12 | fdask | <Kismet> ESSID: Default |
| 06:22.15 | fdask | haha |
| 06:22.35 | W8TVI | over half of the AP I see are reported to be using the factory conf |
| 06:22.53 | W8TVI | I just need to get netgear to replace my ma701 |
| 06:23.03 | fdask | did u RMA it? |
| 06:23.09 | W8TVI | not yet |
| 06:23.17 | W8TVI | going to call monday |
| 06:23.18 | fdask | ok.. but like back 2 OZ |
| 06:23.20 | fdask | :) |
| 06:23.25 | fdask | theres a million wiki's around |
| 06:23.37 | W8TVI | so? |
| 06:23.46 | fdask | on the openembedded wiki, i read that, and it told me how to get the OE environment |
| 06:23.48 | fdask | got that |
| 06:23.55 | W8TVI | oh |
| 06:24.17 | fdask | the page is kinda confusing... is OE the official buildroot type thing now? or is it something still in dev? |
| 06:24.32 | W8TVI | dang you, I had the topic derailed and there you go going back on topic again! |
| 06:24.37 | fdask | ya |
| 06:24.57 | fdask | im having a productive weekend, despite the beer. :) |
| 06:25.51 | fdask | http://openzaurus.bkbits.net/ |
| 06:25.59 | fdask | i'm guessing thats what i need? |
| 06:35.39 | treke|home | http://openzaurus.org/oz_website/faq/browse?show_results=1&search_string=buildroot&date_modified_start=&date_modified_stop=&action%5Bsubmit%5D=Submit |
| 06:37.13 | fdask | excellent. thank you treke|home |
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| 08:12.45 | Bernardo | hi |
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| 08:29.43 | fdask | starting my first OZ build :) |
| 08:32.43 | raceme | fdask: how do you do that ? |
| 08:32.53 | fdask | make |
| 08:32.54 | fdask | :) |
| 08:33.14 | fdask | i downloaded the src onto a deb-stable linux box and make menuconfig && make |
| 08:33.25 | raceme | i installed an buildoot snapshot, the arm toolchain, copied a def-config file, made menuconfig, choose a 2.4.19 kernel, and there bk blew off |
| 08:33.35 | fdask | blew off? |
| 08:33.54 | raceme | yep saying that it was unable to find the collie-2.4-arm kernel |
| 08:34.07 | fdask | http://openzaurus.org/oz_website/faq/faq?id=84 |
| 08:34.10 | fdask | i followed that |
| 08:34.18 | fdask | and some docs on the OE wiki |
| 08:34.25 | raceme | oe wiki ? |
| 08:34.30 | fdask | www.openembedded.org |
| 08:34.59 | raceme | perhaps the snapshot i took is too old... i thought it was a daily snapshot ? |
| 08:35.00 | fdask | not sure the OE stuff is even needed for an OZ build, but the wiki led me down the path of getting bk installed |
| 08:35.09 | fdask | snapshot of what? |
| 08:35.13 | raceme | buildroot |
| 08:35.16 | fdask | oh |
| 08:35.18 | fdask | i dunno |
| 08:35.29 | fdask | i used bk to get the OZ src or buildroot or whatever |
| 08:35.59 | raceme | it's trying to get collie-arm-2.4 which doesn't exist anymore; there is only collie-arm-2.5 on the kernel bk site |
| 08:36.13 | fdask | why 2.4? |
| 08:36.40 | raceme | perhaps because i chose a 2.4.18 kernel... |
| 08:37.22 | raceme | i want to rebuild to have a more recent kernel (jffs slowness and mounting/unmounting my cf card after suspend really bother me) |
| 08:43.13 | Bernardo | if any of you too can get it over compiling libxine, tell me how you did it - I'm struggling with it for about a week |
| 08:44.39 | raceme | i'd like to compile a single thing before compiling libxine :( |
| 08:49.49 | Bernardo | I managed to compile all (including a cross-compile gcc, bintuils, etc. just following the faq for the buildroot. it's just libxine that is stopping me |
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| 08:50.58 | raceme | i'm trying to get the buildroot with bk right now and test that |
| 09:16.58 | heatxsink | hey raceme whatz up? |
| 09:17.56 | raceme | hi heatxsink |
| 09:18.22 | heatxsink | hey |
| 09:18.37 | raceme | buildroot is compiling :) |
| 09:18.41 | heatxsink | haev you ever reboot your zaurus.. |
| 09:18.48 | heatxsink | and have it never start opie? |
| 09:18.59 | heatxsink | and it just kicks you to the tiny login screen? |
| 09:20.39 | raceme | it made this one time i played with ipkg upgrade |
| 09:20.44 | raceme | and i had to reflash |
| 09:23.06 | heatxsink | crap |
| 09:23.14 | heatxsink | if I can somehow get ssh to work |
| 09:23.24 | heatxsink | then I can copy a new rom image to the CF |
| 09:25.00 | raceme | what kind of network have you on the zaurus ? craddle ? irda ? wifi ? |
| 09:25.33 | heatxsink | craddle |
| 09:25.37 | heatxsink | nm i just got it to work |
| 09:25.47 | heatxsink | i just have to back up my *xml files.. |
| 09:25.48 | raceme | but you don't have keyboard |
| 09:25.53 | heatxsink | for addy, cal, and others.. |
| 09:26.00 | heatxsink | well I've brought up the networking over usb.. |
| 09:26.03 | heatxsink | or ethernet over usb |
| 09:26.08 | heatxsink | so it's just like a box now.. |
| 09:26.19 | heatxsink | i just ssh |
| 09:26.22 | heatxsink | and i'm in.. |
| 09:26.23 | heatxsink | hehe |
| 09:26.45 | raceme | make a sync over ssh of all the zaurus... i do that to be sure that i backed up everything |
| 09:26.51 | raceme | rsync |
| 09:31.11 | heatxsink | raceme: which Zaurus do you have? |
| 09:31.15 | heatxsink | SL 5500? |
| 09:32.58 | raceme | yep |
| 09:33.01 | raceme | arm-linux-gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cpp0': No such file or directory |
| 09:33.05 | raceme | grrr |
| 09:37.01 | Bernardo | raceme: where did you expand the toolchain? |
| 09:38.01 | raceme | in /home/tof/work/oz/ |
| 09:38.08 | raceme | i put that in the PATH |
| 09:39.45 | heatxsink | does anyone know how I can find out what file system a compact flash is formatted to? |
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| 09:40.23 | Bernardo | raceme: afaik you need to expand it to /usr/local/arm, or it won't work |
| 09:40.55 | Bernardo | maybe it is just a question of remaking the links pointing to the right apps |
| 09:44.10 | dade` | do you have tried Grass ? |
| 09:44.23 | raceme | Bernardo: i made a link and it works... thanx |
| 09:44.57 | Bernardo | raceme: np |
| 09:44.59 | Bernardo | Grass? |
| 09:45.39 | dade` | yep |
| 09:47.17 | dade` | yep Grass, look at zaurus software archive |
| 09:55.24 | raceme | mmm... arm-linux-ld: Error: irq.o uses hard floating point, whereas kernel.o uses soft floating point |
| 09:55.36 | heatxsink | raceme: which configuration of memory do you use? |
| 09:56.23 | Bernardo | raceme: I saw that trying to compile kernel 2.4.21... |
| 09:56.57 | raceme | Bernardo: it is what i am doing |
| 09:57.07 | raceme | heatxsink: you mean on the zaurus ? |
| 09:57.17 | heatxsink | raceme: yes |
| 09:57.41 | raceme | heatxsink: 64+0 |
| 09:58.08 | Bernardo | and I tried all memory models - gave up for now, just to be stumped by libxine |
| 09:58.24 | raceme | Bernardo: it weird... yesterday i tried with the exported buildroot snapshot and it was 2.4.19; today i cloned the buildroot with bk and it's 2.4.21 ? |
| 09:58.55 | Bernardo | It's been 2.4.21 ever since I got it with bk one week ago, I never tried the snapshot |
| 10:03.10 | heatxsink | hey everyone what fs does the CF need to be so that it flashes correctly? |
| 10:03.23 | raceme | the snasphot timestamp is good (aug 30) so it's weird |
| 10:03.30 | raceme | heatxsink: fat |
| 10:03.32 | Bernardo | heatxsink: fat 16 |
| 10:05.04 | heatxsink | is that equivalent to mkfs.msdos? |
| 10:05.13 | heatxsink | i'm guessing so.. |
| 10:05.45 | Benji2 | it is |
| 10:07.15 | raceme | Bernardo: did you manage to compile something with 2.4.21 ? |
| 10:07.47 | Bernardo | no |
| 10:10.55 | raceme | :( |
| 10:11.26 | Bernardo | yep. |
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| 10:23.44 | heatxsink | ahh.. |
| 10:23.45 | heatxsink | cool |
| 10:23.46 | heatxsink | thanks guys |
| 10:23.59 | heatxsink | i've sucessfully reflashed |
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| 10:31.31 | heatxsink | sweet |
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| 10:54.27 | wijnand | does OZ support 128 bit WEP for wireless communication? |
| 10:56.34 | yeiazel | sure |
| 10:56.45 | wijnand | good |
| 10:57.07 | wijnand | anything i need in particular? |
| 10:57.45 | imk|z | is there a command you can type from terminal to get battery status? |
| 11:01.37 | raceme | imk|z: cat /proc/apm ? |
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| 12:58.03 | heatxsink | anyone use bluetooth in their Z? |
| 12:58.11 | heatxsink | anyone away? |
| 12:58.13 | heatxsink | opps |
| 12:58.16 | heatxsink | anyone awake? |
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| 13:17.31 | Cameron | heatxsink: I probably will eventually since my school provides wireless Internet access via Bluetooth :) |
| 13:17.49 | Cameron | What type of Zaurus do you have, heatxsink? |
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| 14:18.21 | heatxsink | Cameron: SL5500 |
| 14:18.29 | heatxsink | Cameron: I have two of them |
| 14:18.30 | heatxsink | haha |
| 14:18.41 | Cameron | hehe :) |
| 14:18.48 | Cameron | you have a wifi card too? |
| 14:18.52 | heatxsink | Cameron: yes |
| 14:19.06 | heatxsink | Cameron: I bought a Belkin Bluetooth CF |
| 14:19.29 | heatxsink | Cameron: unfortunately it is not on the list of working adapters |
| 14:19.33 | Cameron | hmm |
| 14:19.56 | Cameron | just bluetooth or 802.11b too? |
| 14:20.17 | heatxsink | no 802.11b used to work |
| 14:20.22 | heatxsink | I dunno if it works now though |
| 14:20.44 | Cameron | heatxsink: you only own one card though? So the Belkin is a combo?? |
| 14:20.52 | heatxsink | no... |
| 14:21.09 | heatxsink | Cameron: Belkin is Bluetooth, and I have a Linksys WiFi |
| 14:21.22 | Cameron | gotcha |
| 14:21.22 | heatxsink | Cameron: so I have two cards |
| 14:21.35 | Cameron | heatxsink: and how then is the Linksys wifi? |
| 14:21.41 | Cameron | because I need to get myself a wifi card for the C700 |
| 14:21.52 | heatxsink | you have a C700? |
| 14:21.58 | Cameron | yes |
| 14:22.01 | heatxsink | wow.. |
| 14:22.06 | heatxsink | how much did you pay? |
| 14:22.12 | Cameron | (a used one from VampireZIM) |
| 14:22.23 | heatxsink | Cameron: do you have a URL? |
| 14:22.37 | Cameron | $430 |
| 14:22.40 | heatxsink | oh that's a guy that comes on here huh? |
| 14:22.59 | Cameron | VampireZIM frequents this channel, yes |
| 14:23.06 | heatxsink | wow.. |
| 14:23.08 | heatxsink | so how do you like it? |
| 14:23.32 | Cameron | I like the hardware a lot, except that getting OpenZaurus on it has been a pain |
| 14:23.49 | Cameron | there aren't technically any OZ stable builds for it, it seems |
| 14:24.00 | Cameron | and I don't love the regular Sharp ROM |
| 14:24.12 | heatxsink | who does! |
| 14:24.12 | heatxsink | haha |
| 14:24.21 | heatxsink | those Sharp Romz aren't Sharp at all! |
| 14:24.22 | heatxsink | haah |
| 14:24.28 | Cameron | ;0) |
| 14:24.48 | Cameron | I tried Cacko's ROM, and it was certainly better, but then for some reason the USB connection to my Win2k machine didn't work (the driver wouldn't install properly) |
| 14:25.06 | Cameron | and without a wifi card, this made installing any new programs or using it for anything interesting practically impossible |
| 14:25.15 | Cameron | so the wifi card will help a lot :) |
| 14:25.28 | Cameron | heatxsink: So you're using OZ on your 5500? |
| 14:25.50 | Cameron | on both? |
| 14:25.58 | heatxsink | Cameron: on both |
| 14:26.47 | Cameron | heatxsink: If you had a C700 & wanted to get OZ on it, how do you think you'd go about doing it? |
| 14:27.18 | heatxsink | hrmm.. |
| 14:27.26 | heatxsink | hang on.. |
| 14:27.59 | heatxsink | hrmm.. |
| 14:28.05 | heatxsink | doesn't seem that much different from SL5500 |
| 14:28.10 | heatxsink | at least by memory |
| 14:28.12 | heatxsink | configuration |
| 14:28.26 | Cameron | screen is 640x480 |
| 14:28.46 | heatxsink | I would just load up a compact flash with the 64/0 configured image....and do the procedure that's on the OZ website.. |
| 14:29.26 | heatxsink | hrmm.. |
| 14:29.29 | heatxsink | well to just get it working.. |
| 14:29.43 | Cameron | heatxsink: but which OZ images would I use? The initrd for the 5500? |
| 14:29.51 | heatxsink | hehe.. |
| 14:30.01 | heatxsink | hrmm.. |
| 14:30.01 | Cameron | that's the tricky part ;-) |
| 14:30.04 | heatxsink | yes |
| 14:30.07 | heatxsink | I agree.. |
| 14:30.11 | Cameron | and then it would require a different kernel, no? |
| 14:30.13 | heatxsink | can you make your own initrd? |
| 14:30.17 | Cameron | probably |
| 14:30.30 | Cameron | sounds painful though ;-) I just want it to work! :) |
| 14:30.32 | heatxsink | you'd probably have to complie your own kernel from builtroot.. |
| 14:30.50 | heatxsink | Cameron: it's opensource....you can't expect 100 efficiency..yet.. |
| 14:30.50 | heatxsink | hehe |
| 14:31.04 | Cameron | anyway, heatxsink, I'm going to make another attempt today, and maybe I'll have some success with other people's builds :) |
| 14:31.07 | Cameron | Also, heatxsink, would you recommend that Linksys card? Because I've heard the Socket recommended in here and elsewhere for its low power consumption, but it doesen't seem to be as well-supported on Linux/OZ as the others (I think Kismet might not work with it, for example. |
| 14:31.31 | heatxsink | ahh.. |
| 14:31.50 | heatxsink | Kismet won't work with the Socket Card cause the chipset on the Socket card isn't prism |
| 14:32.17 | Cameron | yes indeed, that's what I gathered :-\ |
| 14:32.30 | Cameron | heatxsink: so then it's Linksys power consumption vs. Socket's |
| 14:32.38 | Cameron | unless there's also some difference in performance? |
| 14:32.52 | Cameron | any ideas? |
| 14:32.53 | heatxsink | power consumption counts with 802.11b and portable devices |
| 14:33.02 | heatxsink | i'd go with the more expensive Socket Card |
| 14:33.14 | heatxsink | but i still highly doubt you'd even last more than 20 minutes tops |
| 14:33.14 | heatxsink | haha |
| 14:33.29 | heatxsink | but you have a C700 so... |
| 14:33.33 | heatxsink | you might last longer.. |
| 14:33.40 | Cameron | lol, you've got to be kidding? Does the Linksys really drain battery that much? |
| 14:34.08 | heatxsink | on my 5500 it's pretty pathetic..i think I last 30 minutes... |
| 14:34.28 | Cameron | & without the wifi card what's it like? |
| 14:34.35 | heatxsink | a long time. |
| 14:34.35 | heatxsink | haha |
| 14:34.45 | heatxsink | hence the creation of bluetooth! |
| 14:34.45 | heatxsink | hah |
| 14:34.52 | Cameron | hehehe guess so ;-) |
| 14:35.06 | Cameron | which is handy because like I said, my school is starting to provide bluetooth 'net access |
| 14:35.10 | Cameron | around the campus |
| 14:35.17 | heatxsink | i'd go bluetooth |
| 14:35.20 | heatxsink | hands down.. |
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| 14:35.25 | Cameron | except that my home has a wifi network |
| 14:35.25 | heatxsink | only problem is the range... |
| 14:35.29 | Cameron | and speed |
| 14:35.40 | heatxsink | Cameron: you could get a bluetooth USB and provide a PAN |
| 14:35.45 | heatxsink | to your bluetooth devices |
| 14:35.55 | heatxsink | which would then get the internet that way |
| 14:36.01 | heatxsink | that's the idea.. |
| 14:36.04 | Cameron | true enough, except that I have no bluetooth devices! ;-) |
| 14:36.10 | heatxsink | well.. |
| 14:36.11 | Cameron | ::yet:: |
| 14:36.17 | heatxsink | I look at it as saving your battery |
| 14:36.18 | heatxsink | haha |
| 14:36.23 | Cameron | yup, yup |
| 14:36.28 | heatxsink | and you're usefulness with out a outlet? |
| 14:36.28 | heatxsink | haa |
| 14:36.36 | Cameron | think Kismet might ever support the Socket in addition to the Prism? |
| 14:36.39 | heatxsink | i've seen war walkers use the Z |
| 14:36.50 | heatxsink | but they have to have like this external powersource in a backpack.. |
| 14:36.57 | Cameron | lol |
| 14:37.00 | Cameron | that's horrible |
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| 14:37.12 | heatxsink | Cameron: ya but it's kinda cool |
| 14:37.14 | mule | hi |
| 14:37.16 | heatxsink | hi |
| 14:37.29 | Cameron | but it would be so nice and convenient if could easily search out any local access points |
| 14:37.38 | Cameron | I wonder if there's some way around using Kismet? |
| 14:37.43 | heatxsink | Cameron: if you could somehow figure out how to put the Socket chipset into Primiscous mode! |
| 14:38.05 | heatxsink | hrmm.. |
| 14:38.15 | mule | can I ask a quick question? |
| 14:38.22 | Cameron | true enough -- wonder if essid="any" might do it? |
| 14:38.25 | heatxsink | Cameron: but if you put any wifi card into Primiscous mode you loose your power savings! |
| 14:38.30 | Cameron | mule: No. We forbid you from doing so! ;-) |
| 14:38.34 | mule | :) |
| 14:38.38 | heatxsink | mule: whatz up? |
| 14:38.53 | mule | well where are my bash aliases for a start :) |
| 14:39.08 | heatxsink | mule: In your Zaurus? |
| 14:39.13 | mule | heatxsink: yeah |
| 14:39.19 | heatxsink | mule: /root/.profile |
| 14:39.20 | heatxsink | ? |
| 14:39.39 | mule | well whats the difference between /root and /home/root ? |
| 14:40.02 | heatxsink | opps |
| 14:40.05 | heatxsink | mule: by default |
| 14:40.11 | heatxsink | mule: there is no .profile |
| 14:40.22 | mule | I see... |
| 14:40.37 | mule | where are you getting this from? |
| 14:41.08 | heatxsink | mule: /home/root is a symilink to /root |
| 14:41.34 | mule | oh ok |
| 14:41.44 | heatxsink | mule: i'm assuming that the bash shell should take a .bash_profile, and a .bashrc |
| 14:41.57 | heatxsink | mule: i believe i've done that before |
| 14:42.02 | heatxsink | mule: but not sure.. |
| 14:42.21 | heatxsink | mule: i just reflashed my Z so....i'm all jacked up |
| 14:42.23 | mule | yes! |
| 14:42.35 | mule | thank-you |
| 14:42.35 | heatxsink | mule: ? |
| 14:42.43 | mule | its there |
| 14:43.17 | mule | are you guys making an oz for the 5600? |
| 14:44.05 | heatxsink | i'm sure someone's working on it |
| 14:44.08 | heatxsink | I am not |
| 14:44.18 | mule | are you a contributer? |
| 14:44.35 | heatxsink | nope |
| 14:44.37 | heatxsink | i'm a USEr |
| 14:44.37 | heatxsink | haha |
| 14:44.46 | heatxsink | i just hang out in the Channel |
| 14:44.47 | mule | heheh |
| 14:44.57 | heatxsink | mule: until i can get my cross complier working |
| 14:45.07 | mule | I want python and perl on the rom for my ideal rom |
| 14:45.50 | heatxsink | cool |
| 14:46.16 | mule | maybe I should build one, I wuld if I knew how to unpack the current roms |
| 14:46.41 | heatxsink | mule: you need to get the source.. |
| 14:47.14 | mule | but the source is not available for tKc I dont think |
| 14:48.15 | mule | are there any other channels that are not dead? |
| 14:48.43 | heatxsink | right |
| 14:48.57 | heatxsink | tKC, i think you need to buy a license |
| 14:49.05 | heatxsink | and they'll distribute the binary to you |
| 14:49.08 | mule | screw that |
| 14:49.24 | mule | that's why I need OZ on 5600 |
| 14:49.58 | mule | hey want to see my zaurus site? |
| 14:50.14 | heatxsink | k |
| 14:50.15 | heatxsink | sure |
| 14:50.15 | mule | http://mulesex.port5.com |
| 14:50.30 | mule | it is all just ports from debian |
| 14:51.19 | heatxsink | mule: nice.... |
| 14:51.28 | heatxsink | mule: perl! |
| 14:51.28 | heatxsink | haa |
| 14:52.11 | mule | 1130 hits in 4 days! |
| 14:52.24 | redtoade | 1131 |
| 14:52.55 | mule | thttpd is my proudest |
| 14:56.14 | Cameron | :-D |
| 14:57.40 | George- | Cameron: if it doesn't, send it to me |
| 14:58.20 | mule | well I need to find the 5600 team I think |
| 14:58.21 | Cameron | lol, George- |
| 14:58.28 | Cameron | Well, didn't work, sure enough. |
| 14:58.38 | George- | excellent |
| 14:58.42 | Cameron | George-: I will be HAPPY to send you the ROM that didn't work, as you just requrested ;-) |
| 14:58.42 | George- | do you want my address? |
| 14:58.47 | Cameron | sure :) |
| 14:58.51 | Cameron | :-p |
| 14:58.53 | George- | I meant the C700 :P |
| 14:58.57 | imk|z | Hostname: openzaurus - OS: Linux 2.4.6-rmk1-np2-embedix/armv4l - CPU: Intel StrongARM-1110 rev 9 (v4l) - Processes: 36 - Uptime: 18d 2h 34m - Load Average: 2.19 - Battery: 100% - Memory Usage: 23.79MB/60.79MB (39.13%) - Disk Usage: 0.16GB/0.24GB (66.87%) |
| 14:59.23 | George- | Hostname: titanium - OS: Linux 2.4.21-ben2/ppc - CPU: Motorola PowerPC G4 7450, altivec supported (667MHz) - Processes: 74 - Uptime: 23h 1m - Load Average: 2.04 - Memory Usage: 128.66mb/501.91mb (25.63%) - Disk Usage: 23.96gb/73.21gb (32.73%) |
| 15:00.11 | imk|z | only 23h? |
| 15:00.34 | George- | yeh |
| 15:00.39 | George- | rebooted into OS X yesterday |
| 15:00.47 | imk|z | hehe |
| 15:00.49 | George- | This is a laptop anyway |
| 15:01.05 | mule | like thats an excuse ;/ |
| 15:01.27 | George- | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:01.30 | George- | That's my server |
| 15:01.37 | George- | crashed after usb-storage killed it |
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| 15:13.38 | M^tt | hello |
| 15:18.05 | M^tt | anyone else have a problem setting wep openkey on oz ? |
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| 17:01.04 | torment | anyone know of a cli app to poweroff the lcd |
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| 18:05.00 | Subway | hey i have a question,. |
| 18:05.10 | Subway | what feed should i use with opie 1.0? |
| 18:05.19 | Subway | i get alot of broken stuff when i try to install various things |
| 18:05.21 | raceme | that's a good question :) |
| 18:05.29 | raceme | i've got the same problem |
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| 18:05.57 | Subway | also, does oz support bt? |
| 18:06.18 | Subway | I should have a bt cf card coming in soon and would like to be able to use my z with my phone |
| 18:07.01 | raceme | what is bt ? |
| 18:07.08 | Subway | bluetooth |
| 18:07.45 | raceme | ok sorry... don't know |
| 18:08.39 | Subway | hmmm |
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| 20:21.59 | kaplanfx | what VNC server do you recommend for linux? |
| 20:22.08 | kaplanfx | I am using keypebble on the client side |
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| 20:25.50 | Bernardo | kaplanfx: I've used tightvnc with some success... |
| 20:29.16 | kaplanfx | cool |
| 20:29.41 | kaplanfx | my debian packages list tightvnc, and one called vncserver |
| 20:29.58 | kaplanfx | and rfb for X11 |
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| 20:45.28 | leffe | is it possible tu run oz on the 5600 yet ? |
| 20:51.37 | Subway | seems so much more stable at the moment... I like the idea behind OZ, but for every day use, tk seems to be a bit more along my lines for now... maybe oz will be there soon |
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| 22:49.40 | Cameron | What kernel can I use with OpenZaurus for my C700? There is no zImage.bin @ http://www.openzaurus.org/official/experimental/corgi/ |
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