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03:07.11 | Jumpkick_ | ibot, wtf |
03:07.11 | | rumour has it, wtf is the point of playing music when you can write it? |
03:08.14 | W8TVI | ibot root |
03:08.14 | | W8TVI: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
03:08.47 | W8TVI | ibot ir |
03:08.48 | | Program to control Chris Dodge's IR device via command line, email, web, or cron. URL: http://kramer.ne.mediaone.net/ir/ |
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04:41.12 | fdask | anyone seen this error from OZ buildroot before, or know how i might fix it? |
04:41.12 | fdask | cat /home/jrw/buildroot-oz/build/opie/src/qt/qt-embedded.control | grep -v ^Depends \ |
04:41.13 | fdask | <PROTECTED> |
04:41.13 | fdask | cat: /home/jrw/buildroot-oz/build/opie/src/qt/qt-embedded.control: No such file or directory |
04:41.32 | fdask | i checked and there's no build/opie dir at all |
04:43.57 | fdask | hrmm |
04:44.15 | fdask | i think i might have missed the make image_menuconfig step |
05:05.41 | pHluid | What kernel is used in the snapshots from http://opie.net.wox.org/openzaurus/? |
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06:42.03 | fdask | do i have to manually cvs pull the OPIE src and stick it in the OZ buildroot? |
06:43.27 | treke|home | no |
06:48.42 | fdask | my build finished with the kernel stuff, and when it started in on OPIE, i got errors about missing files and dirs |
06:48.49 | fdask | ie. no build/opie dir |
07:02.30 | fdask | should i have a build/opie dir? |
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08:08.34 | stonage | anyone know why samba isn't in the OZ feed anymore? |
08:13.51 | prh | raceme: the snapshots are not working |
08:22.29 | raceme | prh: I noticed that :) |
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14:09.55 | Cameron | Anyone awake around here? |
14:16.24 | GpF | well... yess ;] |
14:16.47 | GpF | 4PM here |
14:22.59 | Cameron | :) |
14:23.07 | Cameron | 10 AM here hehe |
14:23.22 | Cameron | Hungary -- no wonder! |
14:23.49 | Cameron | GpF: Do you by chance have a Zaurus C700 series or know how I can get OpenZaurus to work on one? |
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14:27.50 | Cameron | hello, paq_ |
14:41.27 | Cameron | this really is so frustrating -- I have yet to get OpenZaurus working on my C700! Should it really be this hard? The http://www.openzaurus.org/official/experimental/corgi/ URL provides images, but no kernel zImage.bin, which is absolutely necessary :-/ |
14:41.46 | Cameron | Someone must know how to help me from here? I've been trying for days now |
14:42.41 | GpF | well |
14:43.04 | GpF | I have just bought my c750, but I couldn't get a 128MB CFlash to dump the Sharp ROM ;( |
14:43.16 | GpF | I would reeeealy like to try OZ though... |
14:43.33 | Cameron | GpF: if you were doing so, where would you go for the roms? |
14:43.45 | GpF | the only thing I can promise that I will report back if you want ;] |
14:43.59 | GpF | unofficial |
14:44.08 | Cameron | ok :) I was just hoping you might have some suggestions for where to look for me now? |
14:44.10 | GpF | or try to build the kernel for myself |
14:44.15 | Cameron | or if there's something I'm doing terribly wrong? |
14:44.28 | Cameron | what do you mean "unofficial" |
14:44.36 | GpF | http://www.openzaurus.org/unofficial/experimental/ |
14:45.21 | Cameron | if you notice, there is no Corgi there :( |
14:45.34 | Cameron | only collie, husky |
14:45.51 | Cameron | GpF: You don't think a C750 image might work on a C700, do you? |
14:46.12 | GpF | dunno |
14:46.18 | GpF | technically it should |
14:46.23 | Cameron | really? |
14:46.33 | GpF | but don't take me authoritive on this, I'm a newb ;p |
14:46.37 | Cameron | isn't it a slightly different processor or something? |
14:46.38 | Cameron | hehe ok |
14:46.41 | GpF | the CPU is almost the same |
14:46.47 | GpF | PXA250 vs PXA255 |
14:47.05 | GpF | AFAIK the cache is modified and the RAM FSB |
14:47.27 | GpF | I don't know about more differences |
14:47.33 | GpF | but that's only me |
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14:49.15 | Cameron | alright, GpF |
14:49.21 | Cameron | then I'm going to try the Husky ROMS :-D |
14:49.25 | Cameron | hopefully it works? |
14:49.34 | GpF | don't know :( |
14:49.36 | Cameron | or not husky rather, shepherd |
14:49.59 | Cameron | GpF: Also one other thing: the zimage.bin on that site is with a lowercase 'i,' and I thought it had to be a capital? |
14:50.13 | Cameron | You know if that's an error and it should be 'I' or not? |
14:50.30 | GpF | the documentation I have read says only a reeealy old updater.sh needs 'zimage' |
14:50.39 | GpF | all newer ones should be 'zImage.bin' |
14:50.52 | Cameron | thought so. thanks! |
14:51.05 | GpF | be carefull... |
14:51.09 | GpF | I'm not an expert |
14:51.22 | Cameron | I wonder if it's case sensitive though? |
14:51.31 | Cameron | ok :-D I'll keep that in mind ;-) |
14:52.21 | GpF | it is |
14:52.27 | GpF | as all the unices |
14:52.44 | Cameron | right, but strange since it's VFAT, which is not case sens. :) |
14:53.09 | Cameron | so I'm thinking that maybe it should RECOGNIZE a different case filesystem anyhow? |
14:53.11 | GpF | hmm... |
14:53.15 | Cameron | oh well, zImage.bin |
14:53.19 | Cameron | :-D |
14:54.31 | GpF | you might want to check these out: |
14:54.33 | GpF | http://www.openzaurus.org/oz_website/faq/faq?id=9 |
14:54.56 | GpF | http://www.openzaurus.org/oz_website/faq/faq?id=11 |
14:55.06 | GpF | http://www.openzaurus.org/oz_website/faq/faq?id=33 |
14:55.20 | GpF | http://www.openzaurus.org/oz_website/faq/faq?id=53 |
14:55.45 | GpF | and especially this one: |
14:55.47 | GpF | http://www.openzaurus.org/oz_website/faq/faq?id=271 |
14:56.11 | Cameron | yay |
14:56.16 | Cameron | the shepherd rom magically worked |
14:56.17 | GpF | the're short ones |
14:56.24 | GpF | really? |
14:56.27 | Cameron | thanks for the FAQs, some interesting things to read |
14:56.34 | Cameron | yes, @ least the kernel messages are showing.. |
14:56.38 | Cameron | we'll see if it goes all the way |
14:56.40 | GpF | sweet ;] |
14:57.01 | GpF | I can't wait to get my hands on a 128MB CFlash to do that dumping |
14:57.08 | Cameron | :-D |
14:57.14 | Cameron | woohoo :-D this is better than I ever got before -- one time I got OZ installed, but the screen was all screwed up b/c I used a non-OZ kernel |
14:57.42 | GpF | yipeeee... work is over |
14:57.47 | GpF | it's 5pm |
14:57.51 | Cameron | :-D |
14:57.53 | Cameron | good for you |
14:57.56 | GpF | lol |
14:58.07 | GpF | I have to make a charger for my Z |
14:58.24 | GpF | In Hungary we have 220V in the wall |
14:58.25 | Cameron | careful! |
14:58.28 | Cameron | eek |
14:59.04 | GpF | gonna use an old IOmega Zip drive power adapter |
14:59.30 | Cameron | :-) same volt/amperage? |
14:59.34 | GpF | yup |
14:59.37 | Cameron | ciik |
14:59.38 | Cameron | coo |
14:59.39 | Cameron | l |
14:59.41 | GpF | 5V/1A |
15:00.28 | Cameron | uh-oh @ bootup SIGSEGV |
15:01.38 | GpF | AFAIK the 5600 has a PXA250 CPU |
15:01.45 | GpF | try the poodle kernel |
15:02.01 | GpF | might help you out |
15:02.24 | Cameron | ahah |
15:02.27 | Cameron | thanks, I will :) |
15:02.33 | Cameron | but same initrd you think? |
15:02.43 | GpF | keep the initrd |
15:02.46 | GpF | I guess |
15:03.05 | Cameron | ok. will try that, thx |
15:03.09 | GpF | mental note to myself: learn the zaurii codenames ;] |
15:03.37 | GpF | BTW where did it get the sigsegv? |
15:06.57 | GpF | whew... last task to finish today |
15:07.05 | GpF | ... done. |
15:07.36 | Cameron | @ the end of the installation |
15:07.54 | Cameron | but then I cold rebooted it and it started up without saying that |
15:08.02 | Cameron | but froze |
15:08.15 | Cameron | what I'm doing now is trying the same kernel with the initrd for the Corgi |
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15:09.14 | ||ugh | Ug, any one know off hand the polarity of the power plug on the SL-5500? |
15:09.55 | GpF | sorry... I don't know |
15:10.07 | GpF | the c750 has positive in the middle if that helps |
15:10.26 | Cameron | in Japan they must have 110V A/C, right? |
15:10.33 | GpF | yes |
15:10.44 | Cameron | must be because of the U.S.'s post WW2 influence... |
15:10.51 | ||ugh | I would figure it's neg-out/pos-in but one never really knows with some folks. |
15:10.54 | GpF | that's why I'm using the adapter for an IOmega |
15:12.00 | GpF | Cameron : that one and I guess the Japanese ppl are quite smart and they knew that such a small country they live in (still bigger than Hu) they need to be 'compatible' with the best possible business partner |
15:12.47 | Cameron | GpF: your English is very good |
15:12.50 | Cameron | do you have a British accent? |
15:13.11 | GpF | hmm... ppl say not really |
15:13.21 | GpF | I had American teachers |
15:13.23 | Cameron | ok :) |
15:13.29 | GpF | why? |
15:13.39 | Cameron | I was just wondering |
15:13.42 | GpF | ;] |
15:14.12 | Cameron | no my C700 is taking a while doing its "Reconfiguring all packages installed to root..." |
15:14.18 | Cameron | looks promising :-D |
15:14.20 | GpF | ;] |
15:14.28 | GpF | that's gonna work like charm |
15:14.30 | Cameron | I'm happy b/c before I never got even a colored FB bootup screen |
15:14.35 | Cameron | hehehe |
15:15.41 | GpF | . |
15:15.58 | Cameron | hmm |
15:16.12 | Cameron | starting Opie... |
15:16.21 | Cameron | eek |
15:16.26 | Cameron | kernel panic :-((( |
15:16.32 | Cameron | that wasn't too fun |
15:16.44 | GpF | as for my english: I prefer English over Hungarian when it comes to Informatics and fils |
15:16.49 | GpF | films |
15:17.02 | Cameron | Informatics? |
15:17.12 | GpF | Computers and Software |
15:17.15 | Cameron | ok |
15:17.29 | GpF | I hate badly translated SW (^_^); |
15:17.48 | GpF | same goes for film dubs |
15:17.49 | Cameron | :-) what's to like about it? |
15:18.18 | Cameron | darn, I'm booting up again, but I'm afraid I'll get another kernel panic! |
15:18.29 | GpF | well ;] stupid mistranslation that you can laugh at ;] |
15:18.34 | Cameron | if only kergoth`bbl could have just given us a darned kernel for the Corgi!!! |
15:18.41 | Cameron | yup, panic again :-/ |
15:19.14 | GpF | :( |
15:19.17 | Cameron | what do you think I should try, GpF? A Poodle kernel? |
15:19.22 | Cameron | a Shepherd initrd? |
15:19.45 | GpF | hmm... what combination did you use this time? |
15:20.02 | GpF | I didn't follow you on this one |
15:20.46 | Cameron | I used a Corgi (C700) initrd.bin |
15:20.52 | Cameron | and a Shepherd zImage.bin |
15:21.27 | GpF | try the Poodle zImage.bin |
15:21.43 | Cameron | yup, going to do that right now |
15:21.49 | Cameron | I'll let you know how it goes |
15:22.25 | GpF | again just guessing from the Forum posts and FAQ's the C700 shouldn't be musch different from the 5600 base HW wise |
15:22.49 | Cameron | ok |
15:22.51 | Cameron | here goes :) |
15:25.03 | GpF | if you haven't read it already you might wana check this out: http://www.openembedded.org/phpwiki/index.php/OzTODO |
15:25.12 | Cameron | darn |
15:25.19 | Cameron | freezes with the Poodle zImage.bin |
15:26.13 | GpF | where does it freeze up? |
15:26.43 | GpF | kernel boot or user space boot? |
15:27.06 | Cameron | probably kernel boot |
15:27.13 | Cameron | because it still says "Rebooting the system..." |
15:27.14 | GpF | :( |
15:27.18 | GpF | oh |
15:27.21 | Cameron | this has happened to me so many times |
15:27.29 | Cameron | GpF: It does mean that the kernel is messed up, no? |
15:27.35 | Cameron | to the best of your knowledge |
15:27.47 | GpF | yes |
15:28.02 | Cameron | so I'd better try a different kernel... |
15:29.13 | GpF | ... |
15:29.39 | GpF | the best combination sofar was Shepherd zImage and Corgi initrd |
15:29.59 | GpF | that SIGSEGV's somewhere during the package installation |
15:30.05 | GpF | am I right? |
15:30.25 | Cameron | well, yes |
15:30.40 | GpF | hmm... |
15:30.41 | Cameron | the full shepherd was similar actually |
15:30.43 | Cameron | actually no |
15:30.47 | Cameron | wait let me re-state |
15:31.10 | Cameron | 1) Shepherd zImage & initrd: Kernel Panic while trying to start Opie |
15:31.37 | Cameron | no, no, sorry, I have it backwards, yeesh: |
15:31.49 | Cameron | 1) Shepherd zImage & CORGI initrd: Kernel Panic while trying to start Opie |
15:32.05 | Cameron | 2) Shepherd zImage & SHEPHERD initrd: SIGSEV around same time |
15:32.11 | Cameron | not that it's so important the difference ;-) |
15:32.25 | Cameron | GpF: so maybe shall I try a Husky kernel? |
15:32.52 | GpF | well |
15:32.56 | GpF | I don't know |
15:33.07 | GpF | you might want to try |
15:33.14 | Cameron | hehe neither do I, and that's the problem :) |
15:33.20 | Cameron | I shall attempt it |
15:33.23 | Cameron | and see what happens |
15:33.28 | GpF | d@mn! I wish I knew more about these Zauriis! |
15:34.58 | Cameron | hehe |
15:34.59 | Cameron | yup |
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15:36.12 | GpF | there ARE screenshots in the corgi directory dated lat April, thus it SHOULD work somehow |
15:36.29 | Cameron | I know |
15:36.33 | Cameron | I came to the same conclusion!! |
15:36.44 | Cameron | but it looks like Kergoth for some reason removed the zImage.bin |
15:36.46 | Cameron | in that dir... |
15:36.58 | Cameron | so we're screwed unless he can get it back up there maybe? |
15:36.59 | GpF | yeah |
15:37.08 | GpF | there is a possibility |
15:37.21 | GpF | BTw Kergoth seems to be an AMD fan ;]]]] |
15:37.28 | GpF | http://www.openzaurus.org/official/experimental/corgi/screenshots/sc_19.05.03_Wed_31_Dec_1969.png |
15:37.34 | Cameron | hehe |
15:37.38 | GpF | check out his Machine's name! ;] |
15:39.00 | Cameron | hehe yup, GpF |
15:39.05 | Cameron | an early-adopter :) |
15:39.15 | Cameron | btw, the Husky kernel just totally stalls @ bootup |
15:39.25 | GpF | :( |
15:39.26 | Cameron | no error or anything -- just a cursor blinking eternal |
15:39.27 | GpF | well |
15:39.41 | Cameron | yes? |
15:39.42 | GpF | then I guess we don't have much more choices |
15:39.53 | GpF | gotta catch Kergoth |
15:39.59 | Cameron | yup |
15:40.02 | Cameron | I /msged him |
15:40.18 | Cameron | one other thing though, GpF: the opie site seems to have ROMS for the C700 also |
15:40.26 | Cameron | but the kernel hasn't worked for me so go figure! |
15:40.51 | GpF | ... |
15:40.54 | GpF | http://www.openzaurus.org/official/experimental/shepherd/ |
15:41.01 | GpF | there are 3 zImages !!! |
15:41.13 | GpF | sorry... gotta go back to elementary |
15:41.14 | GpF | 4 |
15:41.17 | Cameron | ok |
15:41.22 | Cameron | hehe |
15:41.27 | Cameron | quite alright :-D |
15:41.32 | Cameron | you're right -- I forgot about those |
15:41.41 | Cameron | maybe I should try one :) |
15:41.49 | Cameron | which looks most promising to you? |
15:42.19 | GpF | the one with the long name |
15:42.23 | GpF | that's the latest |
15:42.31 | GpF | (and hopefully the greatest) |
15:43.06 | GpF | I really need to find someone who knows a LOT about the HW differences between the different models |
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15:44.11 | mule | hi |
15:44.39 | GpF | hi ;) |
15:44.56 | mule | is there any way to get the oz root fs? so I can try port for 5600? :) |
15:45.03 | Cameron | yeah, GpF, you're not kidding!! |
15:46.01 | GpF | is it working? |
15:46.17 | GpF | mule : what do you mean? initrd.bin for the 5600? |
15:46.52 | mule | GpF: well just a tarball of the filesystem would be nice |
15:47.26 | mule | I am having trouble mounting the initrd from a loopback |
15:47.42 | GpF | well |
15:47.54 | Cameron | GpF: going to try it right now :) |
15:48.20 | GpF | mule: bitkeeper snapshot? |
15:48.33 | GpF | http://www.openzaurus.org/official/snapshot/buildroot-snapshot.tar.bz2 ??? |
15:48.47 | mule | GpF: ok thanks I'll try there |
15:48.59 | GpF | you're welcome ;] hope it'll help |
15:49.05 | mule | nice reliable website btw guys :D |
15:49.10 | Cameron | flashing...here goes... |
15:49.14 | Cameron | :) |
15:49.26 | Cameron | mule: ? |
15:50.55 | Cameron | ok, it @ least partially boots...doing post install configuration stuff ok |
15:51.18 | mule | well the website does pause a lot |
15:51.34 | Cameron | oh-- I hadn't really had any such problems |
15:51.47 | Cameron | where are you, mule? |
15:52.01 | mule | uk |
15:52.33 | GpF | well it's slow for me too in .hu but that might be becoz' the firewall |
15:53.07 | mule | I wait 5 minutes for a page at times :) but it's cool, keep up the good work! |
15:53.42 | mule | oh and get a 5600 rom out! please? |
15:55.17 | Cameron | mule: it must be something about being in the UK because I've had very quick downloads with the site |
15:55.26 | Cameron | and a C700 ROM, honestly! |
15:55.56 | GpF | ok guys.. I have to go home... I'm starved! ^_^;; |
15:55.58 | Cameron | mithro: I tried your ROMS, but the kernel didn't seem to work |
15:56.07 | mule | GpF: no, the buildroot is not the filesystem |
15:56.09 | Cameron | k, GpF: I ought to eat lunch too while you eat dinner :) |
15:56.21 | GpF | something like that |
15:56.41 | GpF | bye everyone... (might check back later in the evening) |
15:57.47 | Cameron | wait, GpF |
15:57.49 | Cameron | it worked I think |
15:57.51 | Cameron | !!!! |
15:58.04 | Cameron | GpF: Opie crosshair calibration screen, woohoo! |
15:58.33 | mule | Cameron: on c700? |
15:58.36 | Cameron | yes |
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15:58.41 | mule | way to go! |
15:58.52 | Cameron | yup, nice little screen |
15:59.05 | mithro | Cameron: don't use my kernel :) |
15:59.11 | mithro | brb |
15:59.29 | mule | might oz work with the sharp kernel? |
16:00.06 | Cameron | lol, ok, mithro |
16:00.14 | Cameron | mule: nope, already tried it :-D |
16:00.25 | mule | on 5600? |
16:00.41 | Cameron | doubt it |
16:00.52 | Cameron | there's a poodle kernel on the site, mule |
16:00.53 | Cameron | try it |
16:02.56 | mule | poodle is 5600? |
16:04.09 | Cameron | I believe so |
16:04.15 | Cameron | look it up if you're not sure |
16:04.20 | Cameron | www.dictionary.com ;-) |
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16:08.11 | mule | no I just cant extract the filesystem from the rom |
16:09.18 | Cameron | ah, ok |
16:09.26 | Cameron | you don't want to flash then? |
16:09.59 | mule | well I want to get the filesystem, change it for 5600 rebuild it and flash |
16:10.32 | mule | 5600 rom is bigger so I can put more stuff in |
16:10.43 | mule | I think |
16:12.36 | mule | I just cant get the filesystem...it's stramge because I can for other roms |
16:12.46 | Cameron | why not just get the 5600 rom?? |
16:13.21 | mule | the sharp 5600 rom? |
16:15.17 | Cameron | no OZ 5600 |
16:15.24 | mule | there isnt one |
16:16.13 | Cameron | yes there is :) |
16:16.18 | mule | where?? |
16:16.36 | Cameron | http://www.openzaurus.org/unofficial/experimental/poodle/ |
16:17.21 | mule | ok, so you rule :) |
16:17.25 | Cameron | lol |
16:17.26 | mule | thanks |
16:17.33 | Cameron | you're welcome |
16:20.23 | mule | lets flash this baby up :) |
16:22.06 | Cameron | good luck to you |
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16:28.15 | mule | thanks |
16:34.11 | mule | how can I get in touch with the rom team of poodle? |
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17:11.53 | bach | hi * |
17:12.03 | bach | is openzaurus still alive? |
17:42.20 | eworm | I can't use the soundcard and irda at the same time, both use irq 24. |
17:42.34 | eworm | Is there a workaround for that? |
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20:11.48 | Teppich | hi |
20:12.31 | Jumpkick_ | ibot: you are insane in the membrane |
20:12.32 | | Jumpkick_: what are you talking about? |
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21:17.41 | eddd | is the opie-bluetoothapplet for affix? |
21:17.55 | treke|home | Think it's bluez |
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21:18.48 | eddd | i have the modules loaded, but the interface does not come up |
21:18.54 | eddd | or will not] |
21:19.43 | eddd | any ideas? |
21:19.49 | treke|home | no\ |
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21:46.57 | pHluid | Hrm. So I flashed with a 64/0 snapshot from opie.wox.net.org, and I ran out of internal storage in practically no time, even installed to SD. So I flashed with a 32/32 image |
21:47.03 | pHluid | And it's a 64/0 image. Heh. |
21:48.59 | Zaurino | Any news about OZ working on 5600 ? |
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23:09.41 | ||ugh | ibot, what is the polarity of the SL-5500 power connector? |
23:09.42 | | ||ugh: I think you lost me on that one |
23:12.26 | mule | - -Co- + |
23:14.06 | stigger | tip positive |
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23:26.13 | fdask | everytime a 'make' is run in with buildroot, does it start from scratch? |
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23:40.00 | ||ugh | Thanks mule/stiggler, thats what I remembered but I am having some problems and so parinoia is allways best... |