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01:16.27stonageanyone know why samba isn't in the most recent feeds?
01:16.52treke|homeprobably doesnt build
01:17.04stonageit's not in the 3.2 build either
01:17.25treke|homethen What feed was it in?
01:17.31stonage3.0ish
01:17.54treke|homethen it hasnt build for a long time :)
01:18.51stonageI wonder what the issue is, you'd think being able to access your zaurus from a windows PC would be a high priority, right now instead I have to NFS it to a linux box and then use that comp's samba
01:19.30treke|homeNot something most of the developers use
01:19.46stonagechecking the old releases, it's not in 3.0, but it was in 3.1
01:20.06stonagebut didn't survive to 3.1rc2
01:21.00stonageis there a changelog or something that would reference why samba is no longer built?
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01:50.38fdaskin the buildroot, whats the dif between the collie-minimal, collie-feed, and collie-opie?
01:51.18treke|homeminimal is a minimal build. feed is everything in a feed. opie is an opie build
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01:52.58fdaskso doing a minimal i won't get anything opie?
01:53.07treke|homeRight
01:53.22fdaskas well, what are the -image configs?
01:53.37treke|homeThey are config files for images
01:54.14fdaskhrmm.. so like if i wanna run a few makes and end up with an initrd.bin and zImage, i should start with one of the image configs?
01:54.26treke|homeno
01:54.49treke|homeibot oz buildroot
01:54.50rumour has it, oz bk is bk clone bk://openzaurus.bkbits.net/buildroot buildroot-oz; cd buildroot-oz; bk -r co -q; cp def-configs/collie-opie .config (for zaurus 5000d/5500) .. make oldconfig; make; or see bitkeeper (free download but non-gpl) or see 'oz snapshot' if you either cannot or will not use bitkeeper.
01:55.15fdaskah... i get it.  different config section
01:55.38fdaskslowly gettin the hang of the buildroot system  :)
03:04.47bipolarI can't win... No matter what I do I keep getting this error when buildroot tries to build libopieplayer, libopierec, and a few others.
03:04.49bipolarld: libopieplayer2.so.1.0.0: undefined versioned symbol name std::time_put_w@@GLIBCPP_3.2
03:05.08bipolarI'm just going to have to do a gcc 2.95 build.
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04:02.08treke|homebipolar: Dont due a current build
04:02.19treke|homebuild against last monday's source
04:02.26bipolartreke|home: huh? is there a problem?
04:02.33treke|homeYes
04:02.47bipolarok... I thought I was going crazy
04:02.54treke|homeNo that isnt the problem
04:02.57treke|homeThat's a toolchain issue
04:03.08bipolaris the problem in 1.0 BRANCH?
04:03.22treke|homeyes
04:03.25treke|homeand in head
04:03.30treke|homeneither are usable
04:03.33bipolarwhat is it?
04:03.51treke|homeharlekin commited some major changes, and didnt finish them
04:03.58bipolarohhh...
04:04.15treke|homeso BRANCH_1_0 is unusable
04:04.33bipolarok. Is there a way to tell buildroot to get source from last monday??
04:04.57treke|homeuse the cvsdate variable
04:07.40bipolarwhen do you expect the problem to be fixed?
04:08.11treke|homeProbably a week or so
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12:41.12bachis there anyone here that tried to open a Zaurus?
12:41.59Zaurinoit's too expensive
12:42.46bach?
12:43.40bachi need to know what screws i have to remove
12:43.50tormenthttp://www.halfsane.com/zaurus/hw/
12:44.31bachtorment: thanks
12:49.24GpFI have seen somewhere dissected C7x0 pics too
12:50.34bachdid anyone here experience hardware problems with the audio?
12:50.47GpFdo you want me to find it?
12:51.05bachno thanks i have an sl5000
12:51.11GpFkay
12:51.24bachand my right channel of the audio is gone
12:51.30Zaurinodo you now a matlab like app for zaurus ?
12:52.05liyangZaurino: looked at Octave? SciLab?
12:52.20Zaurinonow i see
12:52.34liyangthere's also R, if you want to do stats.
12:53.51Zaurinoi need to solve integrals, do graph.. i study as engineer
12:55.07Zaurinooctave is the best ?
12:55.41liyangYou want something to solve integrals, or just to evaluate them?
12:56.09liyangthe former: use your head ;) -- the latter, Octave or SciLab will probably do...
12:58.01Zaurinohmm i don't know the difference (my english is not good) but i think also solve
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16:44.03Pixel_"Please, read the FAQs and search the mailing list archives before bothering the developers" <-- where are the mailinglist archives ?
16:44.26kergothhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/openzaurus/
16:44.40Pixel_thx :D
16:54.30dade`there are new releases that can work on shar 5600 ?
16:54.56mewynhey kergoth
17:08.17Pixel_Is it possible to stream video to an zaurus (750) over wifi ?
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17:34.42George`PackingSHUT UP IBOT
17:34.49George`Packinggit.
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17:49.46George`PackingI'm going!
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19:12.49pHluidWhen using a split storage OZ image (I.e, 32 RAM, 32 storage) ... are settings etc linked to the RAM by default?
19:13.11pHluidOr do they still go to root like a 64/0 image
19:18.44kergothsettings and application data stay in flash by default unless you change it
19:19.34pHluidHow big a deal would it be to change it over to RAM?
19:19.50pHluidCould I just link a few dirs over to it?
19:20.26kergothyep
19:20.31kergoth~/Applications and ~/Settings
19:20.39kergothor just move your homedir and alter /etc/passwd appropriately
19:20.57pHluidThat's it? Easy enough. By doing that I'd be able to full reset and restore it to a freshly-flashed state, correct?
19:22.45kergothhuh?
19:22.49kergothfull reset doesnt touch flash
19:22.56pHluidRight
19:22.59kergothyou'd lose your homedir, but any changes made elsewhere in flash wouldnt be reverted
19:23.08kergothso your symlinks to various dests due to installs there would remain
19:23.18kergothyou _never_ restore to a freshly flashed state without reflashing
19:23.25kergothbut yes, your settings and applications data would be lost
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19:27.47pHluidSafe to remove usbd-* packages if I never use the cradle? (Only wired/wireless LAN)
19:27.58kergothyep
19:28.09pHluidAnything else I can get rid of?
19:28.17pHluidRelated to that, I mean.
19:28.26W8TVIkergoth, how do I remove them if the package doesn't show up?
19:28.29kergothany modules for network cards you dont have, i'd say
19:28.31kergothW8TVI: hm?
19:28.35kergothrm is your friend
19:28.58W8TVIwell... ipkg doesn't show usbd-*
19:29.27pHluidAhh yeah. I'll have to see what chipsets my cards are.
19:29.43W8TVIcan I just locate the modules and remove them?
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19:35.15pHluidHow ambitious was the first one?
19:46.24fdaskanyone else having problems with buildroot checking out the libxine package from cvs?
19:46.41fdaskmy buildroot make keeps failing on this, and manually running the same command fails as well
19:46.51kergothfails how?
19:47.23fdaskmake[1]: Entering directory `/home/jrw/buildroot-oz/packages/libxine'
19:47.23fdaskcvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.xine.sf.net/cvsroot/xine co -r xine-1-beta12-release xine-lib
19:47.23fdaskcvs [checkout aborted]: recv() from server cvs.xine.sf.net: Connection reset by peer
19:47.23fdaskCVS returned an error
19:48.19fdaskand trying it manually, i get:
19:48.20fdaskdebian:/home/jrw/buildroot-oz/packages/libxine# cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.xine.sf.net/cvsroot/xine co -r xine-1-beta12-release xine-lib
19:48.20fdaskcvs [checkout aborted]: recv() from server cvs.xine.sf.net: EOF
19:49.02kergothfdask: try a different -z value
19:49.20kergothits SF being a bitch again
19:49.55fdask-z5 worked
19:50.35fdaskanyone to incorporate this into the makefile?   will the make realize i've manually done the cvs and not bork out?
19:51.41kergothfdask: yes, just put your checkout in sources/
19:52.03fdaskcool, lemme try that
19:52.39fdaski got the collie-minimal config to build yesterday, leaving out libxine..   today i'm trying to do collie-opie.  :)
19:59.25pHluidAny idea what chipset a Socket LP-E ethernet CF card uses?
20:05.49treke|homeIsnt it a spectrum?
20:06.08pHluidSounds right.
20:06.14pHluidWhat module would provide that?
20:06.25pHluidMore specifically, what can I get rid of. Heh.
20:06.26kergothmost ethernet cards use pcnet_cs iirc
20:06.43pHluidSo the 3cxxx modules etc I can safely ditch?
20:06.59kergoth3c are 3com cards
20:07.11pHluidMakes sense.
20:07.23pHluidJust wasn't sure if there were any other cards using a 3C chipset or not.
20:07.53kergothheh.  we should add better descriptions for the module ipks
20:08.04kergothpHluid: look at /etc/pcmcia/config
20:08.11kergothpHluid: theres your card->module bindings
20:08.17pHluidAhh, wicked.
20:08.34hardwirebleh
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20:14.22pHluidThis 8390-modules package...
20:14.45pHluidDoes it do anything anymore? All references that I see in /pcmcia/config are commented out and point to pcnet-cs
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20:34.41tormenthey, when I run scummvm I get _hwscreen failed!
20:34.48tormentanyone seen that one /
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20:45.29pHluidUninstalling 8390-modules didn't work so well.
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23:10.29fdaskcrap.  buildroot filled my hdd.
23:10.34fdask1.6G and it wanted more
23:10.37fdask-_-
23:11.16tanqhey fdask check #zaurus
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