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| 02:45.41 | Jumpkick_ | what opie package would have 'quicklauncher' in it? |
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| 03:59.30 | Marsupilami23 | Could anyone help me get my Z up and running on the net... I have everything set up right, or so I think. I can ping my desktop with my z and vis versa, but when I try to ping google.com it tells me ping: www.google.com: Host name lookup failure |
| 03:59.37 | Marsupilami23 | What am I doing wrong? |
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| 04:27.11 | W8TVI | ibot: sod off and die |
| 04:27.12 | | W8TVI: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 04:28.37 | treke|z | ibot, eat a bag of dicks |
| 04:28.38 | | ACTION eats a bag of dicks and falls over dead |
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| 04:31.52 | W8TVI | thanks treke|z |
| 04:32.18 | Marsupilami23 | What is the link I'm suppose to make to help opera with the icons? |
| 04:44.08 | Marsupilami23 | Does anyone know how to fix the icons for opera? |
| 04:46.15 | tanq | Marsupilami23: |
| 04:46.18 | treke|z | if they did, they would have answered |
| 04:46.23 | tanq | ? |
| 04:46.41 | tanq | if they did what |
| 04:46.42 | tanq | heh |
| 04:46.53 | kergoth | if they knew |
| 04:46.53 | tanq | man i want that voice enabled browser form opera |
| 04:47.17 | tanq | i ended up writing vxml all day |
| 04:47.18 | tanq | heh |
| 04:47.33 | tanq | that was sort of fun |
| 04:48.29 | treke|z | beach fun or getting the crap kicked out of you fun? |
| 04:49.37 | treke|z | though some people may consider them the same thing |
| 04:49.50 | treke|z | mainly asm programmers |
| 04:50.45 | Marsupilami23 | nevermind, I figured it out |
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| 05:06.13 | tanq | fack |
| 05:06.40 | tanq | does anyone know of something to convert a swf back to fla..even though it might lose quality |
| 05:30.26 | tanq | mother fuckers |
| 05:30.32 | tanq | excuse the language |
| 05:30.42 | tanq | i just got boned on a web template i bought.. |
| 05:30.55 | tanq | apparently there is not a properties file for the swf |
| 05:31.08 | tanq | so i have to pay them like $80 per change |
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| 05:31.15 | tanq | i just payed 106 |
| 05:31.18 | tanq | this blows |
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| 07:15.13 | mcman | How can I make Opie (or AQPkg) accept a local feed? |
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| 10:27.07 | zaurino_ | hi al |
| 10:27.16 | zaurino_ | l |
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| 12:58.21 | raceme | hi... Is it safe to put a default runlevel 1 in inittab ? Because with Opie 1.0 I cannot get the console... I cannot quit Opie... Strange isn't it ? |
| 12:58.57 | mickeyl | terminating opie should give you a console prompt. |
| 12:59.10 | mickeyl | o->settings->shutdown->terminate |
| 12:59.25 | raceme | mickeyl: it doesn't... i've got a cursor prompt but everything is scrambled when I type |
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| 13:00.04 | raceme | mickeyl: it used to work with opie from oz 3.2; but with opie 1.0 it launches a box a la xdm; and if i choose quit then i've got the prompt which do nothing |
| 13:01.47 | mickeyl | strange |
| 13:02.14 | mickeyl | remove opie-login |
| 13:02.19 | mickeyl | or rm /etc/init.d/opie |
| 13:02.20 | mickeyl | and reboot |
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| 13:02.24 | mickeyl | then you'll get the command prompt |
| 13:02.58 | pHluid | Hrm. 0909 snapshot is a bit wierd. |
| 13:03.00 | raceme | mickeyl: i'm not sure. there is a console only at runlevel 1 and default runlevel is 2 |
| 13:03.23 | mickeyl | what's wierd in 0909 ? |
| 13:03.50 | mickeyl | raceme: the runlevel system will be overhauled soon. we will use two virtual consoles and have a permamnent login on vt1 |
| 13:04.23 | pHluid | mickeyl: Upgrade flaked, of course, but that's not unusual... reflash, and there's a bunch of stuff that was never included in the initrd.bin's before (which I'm sure you know :P) |
| 13:04.40 | pHluid | There was some bugs and oddities I noticed, too |
| 13:04.47 | pHluid | But I can't remember them offhand :\ |
| 13:05.06 | raceme | mickeyl: what will happen if i remove opie-login ? opie won't start ? or opie will quit for real when i choose terminate opie ? |
| 13:05.18 | mickeyl | pHluid: opie 1.0.2 will feature a complete new launcher and we're in the progress of migrating all apps to it. |
| 13:05.28 | mickeyl | raceme: no idea offhand. read /etc/init.d/opie |
| 13:05.44 | pHluid | Upgrading was pretty weird. It took hours to finish, and when it was done, I could no longer run any apps that had been installed to the flash, though it booted fine and ran apps that had been installed to RAM or to SD just fine |
| 13:05.54 | mickeyl | upgrading is by no means supported |
| 13:06.08 | mickeyl | not with opie > 1.0.1 due to the new launcher system |
| 13:06.19 | pHluid | Yah, I just try it anyways, I never expect it to work |
| 13:06.19 | pHluid | heh |
| 13:06.58 | pHluid | I'll see if I can dig the bugs I noticed back up and see if they're posted already. |
| 13:07.57 | raceme | mickeyl: from what is see opie should start by lannching qpe if opie-login is not there |
| 13:08.13 | mickeyl | raceme: yep |
| 13:08.14 | pHluid | So that's an Opie 1.0.2 snapshot in 0909? |
| 13:08.21 | mickeyl | pHluid: yes |
| 13:08.29 | pHluid | Didn't even notice |
| 13:08.41 | pHluid | I noticed some new stuff, like the bouncing icons when you launch |
| 13:09.22 | pHluid | Medium Mount isn't included. |
| 13:10.05 | raceme | mickeyl: but there is no opie-qpe so it won't work |
| 13:10.09 | pHluid | Opie-SH tab shows in the Opie menu, even though it's empty and not listed in the tabs |
| 13:10.51 | raceme | mickeyl: oups i misread... this is qpe alone. it is there |
| 13:11.07 | raceme | ok let's go... remove opie-login and reboot and terminate opie |
| 13:11.21 | mickeyl | pHluid: app launch time has been greatly enhance - not noticed? |
| 13:11.28 | mickeyl | s/enhance/reduced |
| 13:11.37 | pHluid | mickeyl: I noticed it was a lot faster, yah |
| 13:11.39 | mickeyl | and scanning documents in the background |
| 13:11.47 | pHluid | Or at least thought I did, but I wasn't sure. |
| 13:11.49 | mickeyl | and all that even without a faster kernel ... |
| 13:12.04 | raceme | mickeyl: must be great with a faster kernel (sigh) |
| 13:12.42 | pHluid | Read an article yesterday ranting and raving about how the 2.6 kernel was the greatest thing to happen to embedded devices since the touchscreen |
| 13:12.42 | pHluid | heh |
| 13:12.43 | mickeyl | raceme: definitly. |
| 13:12.57 | mickeyl | now if we would have just _one_ kernel hacker... |
| 13:13.03 | mickeyl | OZ 3.4 would come out soon then. |
| 13:13.06 | mickeyl | but as it is :( |
| 13:13.19 | pHluid | mickeyl: Button settings errors when you close it |
| 13:13.46 | mickeyl | pHluid: yeah, some apps freak out in the new launcher. as i've said... we'Re in migration process |
| 13:14.07 | raceme | mickeyl: if i'd managed to get the buildroot |
| 13:14.13 | pHluid | Anything new with the launcher other than app launch time and the nice bouncy launching notification? |
| 13:14.14 | raceme | works i could help perhaps |
| 13:14.17 | mickeyl | raceme: where's the problem in that? |
| 13:14.20 | mickeyl | raceme: download it |
| 13:15.13 | raceme | mickeyl: I lse one day trying to do something |
| 13:15.18 | mickeyl | pHluid: document scanning in background |
| 13:15.38 | raceme | mickeyl: I used the snapshot to avoid using bk and found after hours that the snapshot was long way obsolete |
| 13:15.45 | pHluid | No more locking up for 30 secs when I insert a card? |
| 13:15.49 | raceme | then i installed and used bk |
| 13:15.51 | mickeyl | raceme: http://openzaurus.org/snapshot |
| 13:15.59 | mickeyl | as opposed to the obsolete one in official/ |
| 13:16.08 | mickeyl | pHluid: that's the intention |
| 13:17.04 | raceme | and when i tried to build the kernel bk tried to download non existant tree for the kernel sources |
| 13:17.37 | mickeyl | raceme: yeah, it was old. |
| 13:17.46 | mickeyl | ibot: oz snapshot |
| 13:17.47 | | i heard oz snapshot is http://openzaurus.sourceforge.net/snapshot/ or updated every 4 hours by Navi or this is a snapshot of the bk oz buildroot tree use it to compile your own OZ if you don't want to use BK |
| 13:17.57 | pHluid | mickely: the little eject thingie doesn't show my CF card after resuming from a suspend, though it shows the documents on it. |
| 13:21.07 | raceme | mickeyl: ok i'll try again to use that... what are the problem needing a kernel dev ? |
| 13:21.55 | mickeyl | raceme: kernel 2.4.21-cl needs finishing touches regarding sound,apm and sd. |
| 13:22.39 | mickeyl | I'm afraid you won't be able to get the kernel 2.4.21-cl because that is also in a bitkeeper repository |
| 13:22.43 | mickeyl | linux-cl.bkbits.net |
| 13:23.04 | mickeyl | see also http://openembedded.org/phpwiki/index.php/OzTODO |
| 13:25.54 | raceme | mickeyl: it's ok i installed bk... it's against my religion but i should support it :( |
| 13:26.15 | raceme | YES ! i've got my console prompt at least... |
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| 13:42.06 | raceme | mickeyl: i see something about opera icons in taskbar in the wiki page... perhaps this will be usefull: http://khemmis.raceme.org/tmp/tweak_opera/ |
| 13:45.13 | mickeyl | good idea. please add it to the page |
| 13:45.49 | pHluid | Um |
| 13:45.57 | pHluid | This isn't all necessary to make it work |
| 13:46.14 | pHluid | Ahh, nm |
| 13:46.19 | pHluid | Never noticed a prob with pngs before. |
| 13:46.37 | stigger | HAs anyone noticed that with the new rom when you resume it immedialy suspend again or is it just me |
| 13:47.07 | pHluid | Worked fine for me so far. |
| 13:47.50 | stigger | strange first time switches back off press it again and all is well |
| 13:51.09 | prh | anyone found another location for netbase? (so I build Oz! :OO( |
| 13:54.35 | mickeyl | try to get missing sources from http://opie.net.wox.org/sources/, but be gentle on that server |
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| 13:59.32 | raceme | pHluid: png never worked in opera for me (for any version of opera from all the sharp rom) without making this tweak |
| 13:59.54 | prh | mickeyl: ta |
| 14:02.48 | raceme | ok at least one bug has been corrected: the little arrow to choose input method lacked in the previus 1.0 opie snapshot |
| 14:08.30 | pHluid | mickeyl: Is 3.4 basically in a holding pattern based on the kernel? |
| 14:10.23 | raceme | mmm... opie doesn't find halt of my applications... i ran ipkg-link mount /mnt/card and restarted opie but it changes nothing... Menu like application do not have submenu... weird... |
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| 14:14.02 | mickeyl | pHluid: yes |
| 14:14.21 | pHluid | mickeyl: The major hangup on the kernel is the sdmmc module? |
| 14:14.32 | mickeyl | pHluid: that, apm and sound |
| 14:15.34 | pHluid | there's an opensource sdmmc module, isn't there? |
| 14:17.50 | mickeyl | pHluid: yes - for the ipaq. on that base a kernel hacker could implement an sdmmc module for Zaurus. |
| 14:18.31 | pHluid | I wonder if any of the Familiar devs would be interested in undertaking it, given a device to work on. |
| 14:33.30 | pHluid | meh |
| 14:33.36 | pHluid | community.zaurus.com seems to be down. |
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| 15:59.29 | prh | kick poll here - 2.4.18... on a 750 and PC is 2.4.22 - should I be using usbnet or usbdnet ? |
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| 16:20.43 | prh | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:21.01 | mickeyl | prh: you need a certain order for pxa_bi to work |
| 16:21.04 | mickeyl | prh: look in buildroot |
| 16:21.16 | mickeyl | packages/modutils/modules-shepherd |
| 16:21.22 | prh | Ahh ta |
| 16:22.03 | kergoth | usbd sucks |
| 16:22.05 | kergoth | ibot: usbd |
| 16:22.06 | | kergoth: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 16:22.20 | prh | should I use usbnet instead? |
| 16:22.33 | kergoth | ibot: usbd is <reply> USBD is a horrendous Lineo creation with numerous timing issues, among other problems. |
| 16:22.33 | | okay, kergoth |
| 16:22.35 | kergoth | uh |
| 16:22.37 | kergoth | usbd is _zaurus_ side |
| 16:22.42 | kergoth | usbnet is _desktop_ side |
| 16:22.47 | kergoth | usbdnet is _desktop_ side |
| 16:22.58 | prh | Ahhh |
| 16:23.27 | prh | some webpages I've read say usbnet is horrible and crashy, others have said usbDnet is horrible and crashy... so I'm thinking erm... |
| 16:23.42 | kergoth | usbdnet is worthless. |
| 16:23.51 | kergoth | _known_ to kernel panic boxes at random |
| 16:23.58 | prh | right thats good to know |
| 16:24.03 | kergoth | usbnet _may_ stop working. but it usually doesnt explode horribly |
| 16:24.24 | prh | yea with the ipaq it used to be a bit flakey - but has been pretty good recently |
| 16:26.00 | prh | hmm I followed packages/modutils/modules-shepherd and modprobed usbdmonitor. module devinfo doesn't exist on here apparently, and then pxa_bi and it still locked up... |
| 16:26.57 | kergoth | are you using a current buildroot? |
| 16:27.00 | kergoth | that fix was recent. |
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| 16:31.24 | prh | ahh not by build- it was build by eilers a couple of weeks ago |
| 16:31.45 | prh | (I'm still trying to get a sucessful build under my belt ;O) |
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| 16:32.24 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:32.25 | kergoth | bk pull |
| 16:32.30 | kergoth | cat packages/modutils/moduels-shepherd |
| 16:33.01 | prh | usbdmonitor |
| 16:33.01 | prh | devinfo |
| 16:33.01 | prh | #pxa_bi |
| 16:33.30 | kergoth | no |
| 16:33.33 | kergoth | your tree is OLD |
| 16:33.36 | kergoth | how many times do i have to say this |
| 16:33.38 | kergoth | kergoth@direwolf |
| 16:33.38 | kergoth | ~/coding/projects/user/oz/gatekeeper$ cat packages/modutils/modules-shepherd |
| 16:33.41 | kergoth | usbdcore |
| 16:33.44 | kergoth | usbdmonitor |
| 16:33.46 | kergoth | usbdserial |
| 16:33.49 | kergoth | net_fd |
| 16:33.51 | kergoth | pxa_bi |
| 16:33.54 | kergoth | devinfo |
| 16:33.56 | kergoth | THAT |
| 16:33.59 | kergoth | is current |
| 16:34.11 | prh | oh. I did 'bk -r co -q |
| 16:34.15 | prh | earlier today |
| 16:34.16 | kergoth | i said bk pull |
| 16:34.17 | kergoth | didnt i? |
| 16:34.24 | kergoth | co doesnt update a fucking thing |
| 16:34.29 | kergoth | it checks files out of your _local_ repository |
| 16:34.34 | kergoth | it doesnt obtain anything from upstream |
| 16:34.36 | kergoth | bk pull does that |
| 16:34.37 | prh | Oh sod! |
| 16:34.42 | mickeyl | prh: bitkeeper is way advanced compared to cvs |
| 16:34.52 | kergoth | remember, you local tree _is_ a repository |
| 16:34.54 | kergoth | in and of itself |
| 16:34.57 | kergoth | not like a cvs checkout |
| 16:35.03 | prh | mickeyl: I know that. I wish we were using arch/tla - it's free :O) |
| 16:35.18 | mickeyl | bk is free also |
| 16:35.20 | prh | kergoth: right I hadn't ever twigged that |
| 16:35.22 | mickeyl | i didn't pay a single cent |
| 16:35.24 | kergoth | bk is free.. as in beer.. with a license to drink it |
| 16:35.27 | kergoth | ;) |
| 16:35.28 | prh | so what does a bk co actually do? |
| 16:35.29 | mickeyl | hehe |
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| 16:35.43 | mickeyl | prh: please give bk helptool a go |
| 16:35.50 | kergoth | prh: it checks files out of your local repository |
| 16:35.57 | kergoth | prh: just as ci checks files into your local repository |
| 16:36.00 | prh | kergoth: yea except if I want to contribute code to arch - I can no longer use bk. that's errm... not very free |
| 16:36.18 | kergoth | prh: what part of "with a license to drink it" did you not get? |
| 16:36.29 | kergoth | ci/co are like what you're used to with cvs, except they operate locally |
| 16:36.31 | kergoth | not remotely |
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| 16:36.42 | prh | ok. |
| 16:37.51 | prh | oh sod - this is all on a remote machine and it wants X |
| 16:38.23 | raceme | good to know: opie-quicklancher is *required* with the new opie snapshot |
| 16:42.08 | prh | Ahh that's better |
| 16:42.23 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:42.35 | kergoth | prh: you dont need X for anything in bk |
| 16:42.46 | kergoth | theres a commandlien opt to stick to cmdline versions, or unset DISPLAY |
| 16:50.26 | mcman | I'm trying upgrade to opie-mediaplayer2, but ipkg is complaining with: libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 libxine1 | opie-mediaplayer2-codecs |
| 16:50.36 | mcman | Does anyone know where I could get these files? |
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| 17:22.15 | Pixel_ | Hey - Whats the best most competible video player for OZ ? |
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| 19:39.02 | mcman | Hey, I'm running OZ3.2, and I'm trying to upgrade Opie to ver 1.0. Anyway, the whole process has stalled on one of the packages and top is reporting that ipkg + jffs2_gcd_mtd4 are using ~100% of the cpu. |
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| 19:39.37 | mickeyl|tv | mcman: welcome to the wonderful world of kernel 2.4.6 |
| 19:44.25 | mcman | So this is a kernel problem? |
| 19:44.36 | mcman | Should I just let the install process go it's course or... |
| 19:44.56 | mcman | Will it just remain stalled for all eternity? |
| 19:45.25 | bipolar | mcman: eventualy it will clean itself up. |
| 19:45.40 | bipolar | mcman: maybe in a couple of days. ;) |
| 19:45.49 | mcman | Really? Ouch. |
| 19:45.58 | mcman | You being serious? |
| 19:46.05 | bipolar | mcman: did you kill opie before you started the upgrade? |
| 19:46.06 | mcman | I'd rather not wait to use my Zaurus for a couple of days. |
| 19:46.13 | mcman | Yep, killed opie. |
| 19:46.17 | mcman | I'm installing over ssh. |
| 19:46.23 | bipolar | mcman: Yes, I am serious. |
| 19:46.32 | bipolar | mcman: jffs2 sucks in 2.4.6 |
| 19:46.46 | mcman | bipolar: What's holding development back at 2.4.6? |
| 19:46.52 | bipolar | it's best to remove all opie packages, then install the new one. |
| 19:46.58 | bipolar | mcman: SD card support |
| 19:47.04 | bipolar | mcman: mostly |
| 19:47.48 | bipolar | mcman: the sd card driver is binary only. THere is no source. So untill someone gets a open source SD driver for the zaurus, we're stuck with 2.4.6. |
| 19:48.26 | mcman | bipolar: Hmmm, remove all opie packages? Then it would make upgrade pretty difficult. Right now, I only need to do ipkg upgrade and it solves all deps for me. |
| 19:48.49 | bipolar | mcman: at this point, you'll probbly have to reflash anyway. |
| 19:48.51 | mcman | bipolar: Sharp is keeping the sd source to themselves, or is it a third party? |
| 19:49.13 | bipolar | It's sharps code, but they have NDA with sd.org |
| 19:49.22 | mcman | bipolar: Man. I've reflashed like a hundred times trying to upgrade Opie. I bet my Zaurus is pissed at me. |
| 19:49.27 | bipolar | It's a really stupid thing |
| 19:50.37 | Zaurino | kergoth i receives greeting by mail about our rom, it's nice :) |
| 19:51.12 | mcman | What if I kill ipkg and restart the upgrade process? Worth a shot you think? |
| 19:52.24 | bipolar | um... doubtful |
| 19:52.38 | bipolar | worth a shot I guess. I'd reboot first |
| 19:53.25 | mcman | Alright, I'm gonna try it. What can be done to straighten out the sd situation? |
| 19:53.33 | kergoth | code. |
| 19:53.36 | kergoth | feel like writing a driver? |
| 19:53.41 | kergoth | the skeleton's already done |
| 19:53.49 | kergoth | just need the code to communicate with the card via Locomo's SPI interface |
| 19:53.51 | mcman | Write sharp and complain? Would that help? |
| 19:53.55 | kergoth | no. |
| 19:54.05 | kergoth | you think sharp cares about the 5500/5000d models anymore? |
| 19:54.43 | mcman | I don't know, they might care about their reputation. But I guess there's just not enough of us. |
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| 20:20.28 | Vig | woo, my first successful initrd.bin build of oz |
| 20:20.39 | kergoth | congrats. |
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| 20:23.52 | zaurinoino | hm, sometimes my zaurus crashes |
| 20:24.01 | zaurinoino | it's slow mouting cf |
| 20:24.17 | zaurinoino | qpepdf closes itself |
| 20:24.24 | zaurinoino | hmm.. |
| 20:24.37 | zaurinoino | it's normale that every reboot it lost the date/hour ? |
| 20:25.38 | kergoth | no |
| 20:25.54 | Vig | must be resetting itself |
| 20:28.49 | zaurinoino | i meant rebooting without choose "reboot" |
| 20:31.48 | zaurinoino | simply moving the sqith to replace battery |
| 20:32.04 | zaurinoino | (it was crashed) |
| 20:32.11 | kergoth | then yes |
| 20:32.20 | kergoth | it saves the time to the rtc on suspend and proper reboot/shutdown |
| 20:33.54 | kergoth | mtd next, then autoconf, automake, then tslib |
| 20:34.06 | kergoth | er, wrong window |
| 20:34.35 | zaurinoino | hm i'm trying to crosscompile under debian, do you know wich packet i need ? |
| 20:35.01 | zaurinoino | i always find *.h not faund error |
| 20:35.44 | kergoth | just get the toolchain tarball |
| 20:35.47 | kergoth | the debian crosscompilation packages are more trouble than they're woth |
| 20:35.49 | kergoth | worth |
| 20:36.08 | zaurinoino | hm |
| 20:36.17 | zaurinoino | toolchain from trolltech ? |
| 20:36.24 | kergoth | i'd recommend using one of ours. |
| 20:36.29 | kergoth | openzaurus.org/official/toolchain/ |
| 20:36.52 | zaurinoino | i need to compile my application (i wrote) |
| 20:36.54 | zaurinoino | it's the same ? |
| 20:37.05 | kergoth | what? |
| 20:37.08 | kergoth | the same as what? |
| 20:37.41 | zaurinoino | the oz toolchain works well also for that ? |
| 20:38.03 | kergoth | uh |
| 20:38.08 | kergoth | we use it to build an entire distribution |
| 20:38.14 | zaurinoino | ok :) |
| 20:38.14 | kergoth | so yes. |
| 20:38.27 | zaurinoino | i thought it was for kernel |
| 20:38.27 | zaurinoino | okok |
| 20:39.54 | zaurinoino | 40M !! uh.. ok |
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| 21:16.44 | zaurinoino | how to install that tarball |
| 21:16.45 | zaurinoino | ? |
| 21:18.41 | zaurinoino | kergoth. |
| 21:21.04 | kergoth | ibot: oz toolchain |
| 21:21.04 | | from memory, oz toolchain is http://www.openzaurus.org/official/toolchain/, or mkdir /usr/local/arm and extract them in there. |
| 21:21.07 | kergoth | zaurinoino: ^ |
| 21:22.15 | zaurinoino | very good |
| 21:23.33 | zaurinoino | ibot: toolchain doc |
| 21:23.34 | | zaurinoino: I give up, what is it? |
| 21:23.42 | zaurinoino | ibot: toolchain documentation |
| 21:23.43 | | zaurinoino: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 21:23.44 | pyromance | ibot: coffee |
| 21:23.44 | | from memory, coffee is for staying awake, or a proof for the inability of human language to describe God (Wittgenstein) |
| 21:23.57 | kergoth | hah |
| 21:24.01 | zaurinoino | ibot: toolchain |
| 21:24.01 | | extra, extra, read all about it, toolchain is at http://www.handhelds.org/pub/linux/arm/toolchain, or see factoid other-toolchains |
| 21:24.06 | kergoth | zaurinoino: stop spamming the channel. |
| 21:24.12 | kergoth | zaurinoino: use a /query if you need to continue this |
| 21:24.23 | zaurinoino | ahm ok |
| 21:28.10 | zaurinoino | 'night |
| 21:29.55 | pyromance | On a non-Zaurus related note. |
| 21:30.01 | pyromance | I've had a crappy week :@ |
| 21:30.14 | kergoth | ibot: thursday |
| 21:30.15 | | Thursday sucks, because it isnt friday (See friday). |
| 21:30.27 | pyromance | Thanks for that. |
| 21:32.17 | pyromance | http://www.livejournal.com/users/pyromancer/ <- For those who want to cry for me. |
| 21:34.42 | Vig | gah NOC work, I do feel sorry for you |
| 21:35.02 | pyromance | Vig: at a privately-owned hosting firm |
| 21:35.06 | pyromance | With many porn clients |
| 21:35.21 | Vig | heh |
| 21:35.43 | Vig | we used to have a porn hoster called flying croc as a customer back when I worked for ELI |
| 21:36.19 | Vig | both they and real networks whined a lot |
| 21:36.40 | pyromance | Heh. We crank out gigs and gigs of porn |
| 21:36.59 | pyromance | Our uplink is dual gigabits with an OC48 backup |
| 21:38.16 | pyromance | I even talked to Jenna Jameson on the phone a couple times. Of course, my former manager calls on her behalf now. He's a sysadmin for her now. |
| 21:38.35 | Vig | haha |
| 21:39.37 | pyromance | I have milk, an espresso pot, espresso beans, and chocolate syrup. In about 10 minutes, I will be a little happier. BRB |
| 21:46.52 | pyromance | ibot opie |
| 21:46.53 | | hmm... opie is the Open Palmtop Integrated Environment. More info at http://opie.handhelds.org/ http://www.opie.info/ http://www.opie.us/ or in the #opie channel. Installation instructions at http://opie.handhelds.org/wiki/index.php?OpieInstallation or respect |
| 21:47.01 | pyromance | ibot is damn smart :D |
| 21:47.02 | | pyromance: wish i knew |
| 21:47.23 | pyromance | OK that just opens up opportunity for bad bot tricks... such as |
| 21:47.28 | pyromance | ibot who's your daddy? |
| 21:47.28 | | YOU are, Mr Sexy Pants! |
| 21:47.48 | pyromance | rofl |
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| 21:58.35 | pyromance | Triple iced mocha is not a cure for my problems. Just a good band-aid. |
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| 22:41.01 | pyromance | ibot who is your father? |
| 22:41.02 | | pyromance: what are you talking about? |
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| 23:13.49 | mcman | How can I get opie-mediaplayer2 running on OZ3.2? |
| 23:14.01 | Captain-Obvious | install it |
| 23:14.18 | mcman | (Ie, where can I find libxine,etc) |
| 23:14.37 | Captain-Obvious | I think its in the stable oz feed |
| 23:15.04 | mcman | Alright, thanks cap'n. |
| 23:15.11 | mcman | I guess that should have been obvious. |
| 23:15.15 | Captain-Obvious | :) |
| 23:15.27 | Captain-Obvious | well my nick IS Captain-Obvious |
| 23:15.32 | Captain-Obvious | :P |
| 23:16.27 | mcman | I'm a OZ noob. I finally got Opie upgraded to 1.0 so I'm trying to get everything just the way I want it. Thanks for your help. |
| 23:18.07 | Captain-Obvious | :) |
| 23:18.08 | Captain-Obvious | np |
| 23:35.46 | mcman | Another roadblock... Where can I find libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2; I don't see it in the OZ feed. xine and all of it's deps installed fine. |
| 23:36.17 | mcman | Is there a central place to search for this kind of thing? Maybe something similar to rpmfind? |
| 23:36.36 | kergoth | -force-depends |
| 23:36.39 | kergoth | the dependency is incorrect |
| 23:37.25 | mcman | Alright, I'll try that. Thanks. |
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