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| 04:10.46 | Marsupilami23 | quick question if anyone is around, can I install everything to a SD card and have 64megs of ram available? |
| 04:19.08 | fdask | yes |
| 04:19.22 | fdask | u on a 5500? |
| 04:19.27 | W8TVI | if you can get it to work... |
| 04:19.37 | W8TVI | it never worked for me fdask |
| 04:20.01 | fdask | hrmm |
| 04:20.10 | fdask | i have read reports of people doing it though, never tried it myself. |
| 04:20.35 | fdask | right now i use a 52 12 split, and the 12 ram fs almost always stays empty... |
| 04:21.48 | Marsupilami23 | I'll try it tomorrow and If I get it working, I'll let you know. |
| 04:22.06 | Marsupilami23 | Need to format it though. |
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| 04:46.14 | Umaro | fdask: moo! |
| 05:01.29 | Umaro | ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for opie-mediaplayer2: |
| 05:01.29 | Umaro | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:01.36 | Umaro | anyone know where I can get a package that provides that? |
| 05:01.41 | Umaro | I'm using opie 1.0 |
| 05:13.48 | fdask | umm |
| 05:13.53 | fdask | not sure |
| 05:13.57 | kergoth | -force-depends |
| 05:14.02 | kergoth | its an incorrect dependency |
| 05:17.53 | Umaro | oh. ok. |
| 05:18.02 | Umaro | I got a segfault when I tried to force it, so I wasn't sure |
| 05:19.02 | kergoth | unrelated |
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| 10:27.14 | Marsupilami23 | Anyone know how to create a 64-0 install using SD card to boot. |
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| 10:31.01 | Bernardo | hi |
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| 13:38.46 | Cameron | ibot: ulibc |
| 13:38.47 | | Cameron: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 13:38.52 | Cameron | ibot: glibc |
| 13:38.52 | | Cameron: I give up, what is it? |
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| 13:39.14 | Cameron | For building OZ, which should I use: ulibc or glibc? |
| 13:39.18 | Cameron | hello, yeiazel |
| 13:42.19 | yeiazel | lo |
| 13:45.32 | godog | are there problems to flash OZ from SD? |
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| 14:07.08 | Cameron | ibot: i685 |
| 14:07.09 | | Cameron: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 14:07.13 | Cameron | ibot: i686 |
| 14:07.14 | | Cameron: bugger all, i dunno |
| 14:10.37 | Cameron | is there any advantage/disadvantage to setting Build Processor/Machine to i686 instead of i386? |
| 14:15.14 | Cameron | ibot bootmenu |
| 14:15.14 | | Cameron: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
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| 15:06.48 | Bernardo | I was hoping mickeyl|tv|away was here, as he wrote wellenreiter, and he might make some out of this |
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| 17:04.06 | Cameron | arm-linux-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../.. -I../../include -I../../include -I../../src -I../../src/xine-engine -I../../src/xine-engine -I../../src/xine-utils -DXINE_COMPILE -I../../src/video_out/vidix -I../../src/video_out/vidix -I/usr/include -I/usr/src/sources/buildroot-oz/output/staging/include -I/usr/src/sources/buildroot-oz/output/staging/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/src/sources/buildroot-oz/output/staging/target/include -fex |
| 17:04.06 | Cameron | pensive-optimizations -fomit-frame-pointer -O2 -march=armv4 -mtune=xscale -mapcs-32 -Wall -D_REENTRANT -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DXINE_COMPILE -O3 -MT video_out_fb.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/video_out_fb.Tpo -c video_out_fb.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/video_out_fb.lo |
| 17:04.06 | Cameron | /usr/include/bits/mathinline.h: In function `atan2': |
| 17:04.08 | Cameron | /usr/include/bits/mathinline.h:425: error: unknown register name `st(1)' in `asm' |
| 17:04.42 | kergoth | i should add libxine to OE just to see if that problem is caused by what I think it is |
| 17:04.45 | Cameron | How ever can I fix this compile error? I've tried several different configurations, yet on this Gentoo machine here it always fails |
| 17:04.55 | Cameron | alrighty, kergoth |
| 17:05.02 | kergoth | obviously the problem is it pulling in /usr/include on an arm compile |
| 17:05.07 | kergoth | x86 asm doesnt work for arm :P |
| 17:05.07 | Cameron | I know it |
| 17:05.16 | kergoth | but why.. i suspect its libtool pulling it in |
| 17:05.22 | Cameron | but I do not know how to get it to refer to the correct include, ahh, ok |
| 17:05.38 | kergoth | either that, or a problem with teh configure.{in,ac}'s includes for one of its optional parameters |
| 17:05.44 | Cameron | ok |
| 17:05.50 | kergoth | someone mentioend that he thought AALIB was pulling in /usr/include when you have aalib installed on the desktop |
| 17:06.17 | Cameron | FYI, I do have aalib installed |
| 17:06.34 | tanq | is that americas army lib |
| 17:06.36 | tanq | =0 |
| 17:06.55 | pb_ | something like that |
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| 17:42.10 | Cameron | kergoth: Have you fixed the xine-lib problem yet? |
| 17:42.55 | Marsupilami23 | Has anyone had great success with installing OZ to a SD card to boot from? |
| 17:44.04 | Matthew_I | any one know when/if any one (sharp maybe?) is coming out with a pda featuring the new AMD mobile chip? |
| 17:44.41 | mmelbert | does anyone knw what happened to some packages like tab manager that used to be in one of the OZ official feeds that are not there now? |
| 17:57.53 | kergoth | Cameron: i said i should add it to OE, i didnt say I was. |
| 17:58.00 | kergoth | bit busy at the moment. |
| 17:58.04 | Cameron | k |
| 17:58.17 | Cameron | I uninstalled aalib anyways, and it seems to be working ok |
| 17:58.22 | Cameron | so wish me luck :) |
| 17:58.24 | kergoth | cool |
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| 18:51.11 | cfowler | Hello |
| 18:51.57 | cfowler | I'm on the web page and would like to begin programming in the OpenZaurus environment. There seems to be no web page that talks about installing a development environment |
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| 19:15.52 | cfowler_ | Anyone here today? |
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| 19:35.21 | cfowler_ | Hello |
| 20:09.53 | kergoth | try using the faqs. search for source. |
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| 20:12.34 | Cope | Hello |
| 20:13.28 | cfowler_ | Cope: Do you build apps on the Zaurus or in a cross-compiler environment? |
| 20:13.49 | Cope | cfowler_ - I do neither :-) |
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| 20:16.45 | cleverdra | could someone please point me toward either a 3.2 OZ initrd.bin that's been split into less-than-a-meg pieces, or towards a program that can download http://www.openzaurus.org/official/3.2/initrd.bin in less-than-a-meg pieces? |
| 20:18.02 | cleverdra | I ask because my only networthy Z is a 5000 running a buggy Opie 1 release, and it crashes (with degrees of horribleness) after some unclear amount of network activity. |
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| 20:20.16 | Cope | Having a bit of trouble networking my Z and my PC, following the manual. |
| 20:20.16 | sheenmaster | cleverdra: Why not download it and split it before transfer? |
| 20:20.41 | Cope | Have usb support and usb networking in the kernel. |
| 20:20.56 | sheenmaster | Cope: which kernel on your PC? |
| 20:21.04 | Cope | 2.4.20 |
| 20:21.21 | sheenmaster | tail syslog |
| 20:21.29 | sheenmaster | what does it say about the Z when it's connected? |
| 20:21.56 | Cope | Do you mean /var/log/messages? |
| 20:24.04 | Cope | sheenmaster: in /var/log/messages it says: |
| 20:24.36 | cleverdra | sheen - downloading it, not transfering it, is the problem. I don't have a computer. I have two zaurii and a CF network card that doesn't work with the (otherwise nonbuggy) Sharp 3.1 5500 |
| 20:24.42 | Cope | Sep 14 21:24:47 steinitz kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-1, assigned address 8 |
| 20:24.45 | Cope | Sep 14 21:24:47 steinitz kernel: CDCEther.c: eth1: Sharp SL Series |
| 20:24.48 | Cope | Sep 14 21:24:47 steinitz /etc/hotplug/net.agent: register event not handled |
| 20:24.50 | Cope | Sep 14 21:24:50 steinitz /etc/hotplug/usb.agent: Setup acm CDCEther for USB product 4dd/8004/0 |
| 20:24.54 | Cope | (apologies for flood) |
| 20:25.19 | sheenmaster | ~lart Cope |
| 20:25.30 | sheenmaster | ouch |
| 20:25.33 | sheenmaster | didn't mean to be so harsh |
| 20:26.04 | cleverdra | cope - IIRC there are several manuals. You want the one that talks about usb0 -- and you want a very recent kernel. |
| 20:26.37 | Cope | cleverdra: Ok - 2.4.20 is fairly recent, isn't it, or should I get 2.4.21? |
| 20:27.10 | cleverdra | cope - I was thinking about the 2.6 series, which worked well for me. |
| 20:27.45 | cleverdra | cope - alternatively, you can patch an old kernel -- one of those manuals should have that patch. |
| 20:28.11 | Cope | Ok, so maybe I need to go and study the kernel how-to first... |
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| 20:32.33 | cleverdra | that was a relatively tame crash. |
| 20:34.24 | Cope | Ok - well, I have a choice - patch 2.4.20 or get a new kernel - neither of which I have done before. Which would be best for me to learn first? |
| 20:34.56 | cleverdra | cope - the former is a superset of the latter. |
| 20:35.56 | cleverdra | cope - it's a *source* patch, after all. |
| 20:36.09 | Cope | Ok - so you may as well get the new kernel? |
| 20:37.41 | cleverdra | In 'aversion to learning how to configure and compile a kernel' is your concern, yes. |
| 20:37.53 | Cope | No aversion at all. |
| 20:38.05 | Cope | The question was which would be best to learn first. |
| 20:39.08 | cleverdra | OK. The former pretty much just adds 'how to use patch(1)' to the latter. |
| 20:39.31 | Cope | Ah I see |
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| 20:40.09 | Cope | Since I know how to do neither, learning how to configure and compile a new kernel from source is probably the first one to learn, then. And then learn how to patch said kernel? |
| 20:40.48 | cleverdra | I've just verified that 'wget -c' does indeed continue, despite confusing output, so I'll leave for a '800K-reboot' cycle. |
| 20:41.53 | cleverdra | cope - you would have to patch the sources before configuring the kernel. |
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| 21:45.19 | Cope | Hello - ok now on 2.4.22 :-) |
| 21:45.43 | sheenmaster | Cope: good for you |
| 21:45.52 | Cope | However I put the usbnet stuff in the kernel as * not as M |
| 21:45.59 | Cope | Is this a problem? |
| 21:46.06 | sheenmaster | shouldn't be |
| 21:46.31 | Cope | Cool - I figured just have what I want. |
| 21:47.21 | Cope | Anyway - its now saying: SIOCSIFADDR: No such device |
| 21:47.23 | Cope | usb0: unknown interface: No such device |
| 21:47.37 | Cope | When I try to bring up usb0 using ifconfig |
| 21:48.00 | Cope | Am I overlooking something obvious? |
| 21:48.30 | sheenmaster | Cope: remove and insert the zaurus, look at messages |
| 21:48.43 | Cope | Ok :-) |
| 21:49.35 | Cope | Hmm - similar to before: |
| 21:50.00 | Cope | Sep 14 22:51:13 steinitz /etc/hotplug/net.agent: register event not handled |
| 21:50.02 | Cope | And: |
| 21:50.12 | Cope | Sep 14 22:51:16 steinitz /etc/hotplug/usb.agent: ... no modules for USB product |
| 21:50.14 | Cope | 4dd/8004/0 |
| 21:51.19 | Cope | It saw the Z ok, assigned an address, and loaded CDCEther.c eth1: Sharp SL Series |
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