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| 00:34.59 | darkschneider | ok can someoen check if he has /dev/random on his distro? |
| 00:44.05 | ljp | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:45.54 | darkschneider | i know.. |
| 00:46.04 | darkschneider | but my Z don't have it :P |
| 00:46.13 | darkschneider | so i can't run sshd... |
| 00:46.29 | darkschneider | i'm trying to figure out why it does not have it.. |
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| 01:45.25 | darkschneider | night all |
| 01:45.50 | darkschneider | allready too much OZ for today... |
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| 11:02.37 | darkschneider | lo all |
| 11:04.02 | darkschneider | some idea of how to exit from vi on OZ.. because esc q! say "q is nto implemented" "! is not implemented" if i do ctl c it says "caught signal 2 (interrupt)" and it does not exit. |
| 11:04.44 | pyromance | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:04.46 | pyromance | Should work |
| 11:04.57 | darkschneider | ok |
| 11:05.51 | darkschneider | finaly that : appeared tx! |
| 11:06.08 | pyromance | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:18.00 | MaRK-UsE | hi |
| 12:18.25 | MaRK-UsE | is it posible to connect a zaurus 5500g to a nokia 7650? |
| 12:18.36 | MaRK-UsE | i need a solution to go online |
| 12:18.47 | pyromance | Hmm |
| 12:19.00 | pyromance | Does your Nokia have a data cable, BlueTooth, or IR? |
| 12:19.45 | MaRK-UsE | I don't have a data cable, and also no connection-port on the mobile for this. |
| 12:19.55 | MaRK-UsE | but it supports IR and BT |
| 12:20.20 | pyromance | The IR mode ... does it have "modem" type compatibility? |
| 12:21.02 | MaRK-UsE | I think so, there's a win32-software to configure the modem |
| 12:21.11 | MaRK-UsE | but I'm not sure |
| 12:21.26 | MaRK-UsE | is a gsm-modul available? |
| 12:25.21 | pyromance | Hmm |
| 12:25.24 | pyromance | It probably can be done |
| 12:25.27 | pyromance | I just have never tried |
| 12:25.35 | pyromance | I just go over WiFi to a hotspot when I need 'net access |
| 12:25.57 | yeiazel | it seems to work with ppp |
| 12:26.49 | yeiazel | raceme has written a doc (in french :/) about how to make connect his zaurus to the net via his sagem and gprs |
| 12:27.08 | yeiazel | s/make// |
| 12:32.32 | MaRK-UsE | that makes no sense in my situation. I'll do this the same way @home. But I wanna go online whereever and whenever I want :-) |
| 12:35.18 | MaRK-UsE | does the solution over bluetooth work? |
| 12:36.33 | MaRK-UsE | i found something: http://affix.sourceforge.net/gprs-zaurushowto.shtml |
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| 13:02.46 | MaRK-UsE | where to buy a used zaurus? ebay,.....? |
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| 13:34.15 | MaRK-UsE | sits? |
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| 13:51.16 | zeronett | has development on oz basically stopped? |
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| 14:03.35 | music2 | Ermm.. I just reflashed with OZ for the first time, done "ifup usbd0", but now i can't route through the usb interface from my Windows desktop. Anyone? |
| 14:07.59 | stigger | what version of window |
| 14:08.21 | music2 | Win 2k |
| 14:08.49 | stigger | do you see the connection in w2k |
| 14:09.07 | music2 | No, can't see it anywhere ... route print or Network Connections |
| 14:09.39 | stigger | does the net work device show up in device manager |
| 14:11.04 | music2 | I can never find that on 2k, hang on a tick ... |
| 14:11.05 | stigger | also what version os OZ |
| 14:11.18 | music2 | OZ 3.2 stable |
| 14:11.39 | stigger | do you have a usb0 i the zaurus |
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| 14:11.55 | music2 | I have usbd0 |
| 14:12.09 | music2 | ? |
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| 14:12.31 | stigger | cool can you see the zaurus usb device in device manager |
| 14:12.57 | music2 | Hm, device manager seems to be hanging when i go through "Computer Management" |
| 14:13.34 | stigger | hmmmm |
| 14:13.52 | stigger | if you unplug the crdle do you get |
| 14:13.57 | stigger | device manager back |
| 14:14.21 | music2 | ... yup! |
| 14:14.40 | music2 | There's no usb device in "Network adapters" |
| 14:14.46 | stigger | ok take out the zaurus and plug in the cradle |
| 14:14.54 | music2 | Yeah |
| 14:15.28 | stigger | then making sure the zaursu is on put the zaurus in the cradle |
| 14:15.58 | music2 | oh tits. the z seems to have frozen now |
| 14:16.17 | stigger | when you dropped it in the crable or before |
| 14:16.39 | music2 | dunno, some time between .. it looks the same but it don't go |
| 14:16.43 | music2 | i think i'll have to reboot it |
| 14:17.05 | music2 | Here we go |
| 14:17.05 | stigger | you cannot power up the zaurus while its in the cradle or it will hang |
| 14:17.52 | music2 | Cheers. When you say "power up" do you mean "unsuspend" or just "boot"? |
| 14:18.01 | music2 | Right, opie's back |
| 14:18.18 | stigger | i think you can boot but not resume |
| 14:18.58 | music2 | OK device manager is showing the SL series device now . |
| 14:19.35 | stigger | hang tem I'm just plugging the zed into th ewindows box |
| 14:20.41 | stigger | are these the drivers that came with the 3.10 rom or the origanial ones |
| 14:21.11 | music2 | The originals when i bought the 5500 |
| 14:21.49 | stigger | ok then you should be able to add a network interface using the windows wizard |
| 14:22.37 | music2 | I've got the network connection icon now .. |
| 14:23.02 | music2 | Does it do DHCP or do i need to specify an address? |
| 14:23.25 | stigger | cool now you will probably need to set static address at both ends |
| 14:23.40 | stigger | opps sorry typing not reading |
| 14:24.56 | music2 | Booyah, it's connected! |
| 14:25.08 | music2 | stigger++ # Hand-holding tech support well beyond the call of duty! |
| 14:25.40 | stigger | I've had so many problems with it I can do it my sleep now |
| 14:25.43 | music2 | lol |
| 14:26.33 | stigger | if this is your first time with oz the you need to set security in opie to connect |
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| 14:27.29 | music2 | Cheers -- seem to have SSH'd in OK already. Right, many things to fiddle with now! |
| 14:28.37 | MaRK-UsE_ | :-) |
| 14:28.46 | stigger | once you've played a while you might want to try the 1.0 release of opie |
| 14:28.58 | music2 | what am i on with OZ3.2? |
| 14:29.16 | stigger | .93 or something |
| 14:30.00 | music2 | a-ha. Opie looks much prettier than the Sharp, btw |
| 14:30.08 | music2 | (at least at first glance!) |
| 14:30.19 | stigger | I think opie is up to 1.0.1 I can't remember as I'm useing OZ 3.3 |
| 14:31.53 | darkschneider | apart the aloowroot line in sshd conf file thre is some other issure why i can't connect to my Z (but i can use scp anf sftp without problems) |
| 14:32.06 | darkschneider | s/aloowroo/allowroot |
| 14:32.30 | stigger | can't connect with what |
| 14:32.37 | darkschneider | if i ssh to it it just add the Z key and then iddles forever |
| 14:33.08 | stigger | sounds like a routing issue |
| 14:33.20 | darkschneider | from linux box usb ovr wthernet to sshd on the Z |
| 14:33.23 | stigger | but you say that sftp and scp work |
| 14:33.28 | darkschneider | yeah ?perfectly |
| 14:33.35 | darkschneider | 400kb/s... |
| 14:34.06 | darkschneider | i have added the route on my box but not on the Z, do i need that too? |
| 14:34.06 | stigger | what if you ssh from the zed to the linux box |
| 14:34.10 | darkschneider | i can0t.. |
| 14:34.15 | darkschneider | that's anther problem... |
| 14:34.35 | darkschneider | my Z don't see my box back... (i really wonder how sftp is working...) |
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| 14:35.02 | stigger | try typing route on the zed I think one of the roms doesn't set the default route |
| 14:35.03 | darkschneider | (ad problem is that i can't type when the Z is in the docking station.. i have console only..) |
| 14:35.20 | darkschneider | stigger: i have alpha rom for the sl-5600 :P |
| 14:35.28 | darkschneider | it does not even have the devices :P |
| 14:35.36 | darkschneider | so say me what to add :) |
| 14:36.00 | darkschneider | so i make a script for the other sl-5600 users.. and maybe a day normal ppl can use that rom |
| 14:37.07 | darkschneider | stigger: sec booting (i can't even vi files.. it's too unstable and it chrash after like 60 sec..) |
| 14:37.37 | darkschneider | stigger: ok there is no routes at all the list is empty |
| 14:38.51 | stigger | ok you need to edit the file /etc/network/interfaces |
| 14:39.12 | darkschneider | say me what to add.. i have 60 sec before vi crash... |
| 14:39.23 | stigger | iface usbd0 inet static |
| 14:39.23 | stigger | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:39.23 | stigger | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:39.23 | stigger | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:39.27 | stigger | ok |
| 14:39.45 | darkschneider | lol no /etc/network dir :P |
| 14:40.04 | stigger | probably why you have a problem |
| 14:40.27 | darkschneider | ok i creathe the needed scipts :) |
| 14:41.15 | stigger | those lines in that file should be enough to configure the usbd0 interface |
| 14:41.29 | darkschneider | ok they are in place |
| 14:41.32 | stigger | do you have a resolv.conf |
| 14:41.41 | darkschneider | i aded lo w lan and eth0 too |
| 14:41.52 | darkschneider | so i shoudl have all the intefaces ok |
| 14:41.59 | stigger | auto lo eth0 |
| 14:42.00 | stigger | iface lo inet loopback |
| 14:42.00 | stigger | iface wlan0 inet dhcp |
| 14:42.00 | stigger | iface eth0 inet static |
| 14:42.00 | stigger | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:42.00 | stigger | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:42.02 | stigger | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:42.04 | stigger | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:42.06 | stigger | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:42.08 | stigger | iface eth1 inet dhcp |
| 14:42.10 | stigger | iface usbd0 inet static |
| 14:42.12 | stigger | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:42.14 | stigger | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:42.16 | stigger | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:42.18 | stigger | # comment out other iface |
| 14:42.20 | stigger | # & uncomment to use dhcp |
| 14:42.22 | stigger | #iface usbd0 inet dhcp |
| 14:42.45 | stigger | obviously you will need to change the address |
| 14:47.07 | darkschneider | stigger: anotehr question you may know, where i can find a list of devices major and minor for the Z kerenl, since apart the common ones i have allready creeated i don't really know what is the supposed minor major of for example the sd card.. |
| 14:51.50 | stigger | try http://www.allygray.2y.net/dev.list |
| 14:52.23 | stigger | thats from a 5500 |
| 14:54.39 | stigger | or rather thats from my 5500 |
| 14:55.44 | darkschneider | ok tx but it's a problem... i know for sure that the sd module changed... |
| 14:55.56 | darkschneider | i hope it does not changed major and minor.. |
| 14:56.28 | stigger | couldn't tell you I don't have a 5600 |
| 14:56.52 | darkschneider | stigger: no problem, i apreciate a lot your help :) |
| 14:57.05 | stigger | you could always romburst a 5600 sharp rom and look in there |
| 14:57.59 | darkschneider | stupid me that i didn't done that before flashing mine... few chances i can burst sharp rom back.. |
| 14:58.15 | darkschneider | (this will mean waste all the work i allready done on this rom..) |
| 14:58.47 | stigger | if you have the OSPACK and a linux box you can do it on there |
| 14:59.08 | darkschneider | i have only linux box, no ospack |
| 14:59.17 | darkschneider | url? |
| 14:59.32 | darkschneider | (i have cross-compiler allready working) |
| 14:59.42 | stigger | I think they are on the community site a zaurus.com |
| 14:59.48 | darkschneider | k |
| 15:00.15 | stigger | hang ten |
| 15:01.02 | stigger | http://community.zaurus.com/projects/sl5600uss/ |
| 15:02.08 | darkschneider | i allready have that rom :) |
| 15:02.22 | darkschneider | ok can i make a Z virtual machine on my box? |
| 15:02.44 | stigger | then you should be able to extract it on a linux box and poke around |
| 15:02.46 | darkschneider | i basicaly don't want to reflash my Z again then again |
| 15:02.54 | darkschneider | hoo |
| 15:03.10 | stigger | google for a prog called romburst |
| 15:03.14 | darkschneider | that's rigth... |
| 15:03.17 | darkschneider | oki |
| 15:03.48 | stigger | I did it a long time ago so I don't remember exactly |
| 15:04.12 | darkschneider | i will figure it out, tx a lot :) |
| 15:04.33 | stigger | but you romburst the OSPACK and then you mount the rootfs on a loopback inteface |
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| 15:05.55 | stigger | alternatively take a look at the OZ buildroot all that info should be in there |
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| 15:06.40 | stigger|asleep | bye all |
| 15:06.42 | darkschneider | mm i browsed build root but i did not found the device list (even is it MUST be there...) |
| 15:06.49 | darkschneider | tx again, by |
| 15:06.52 | darkschneider | e |
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| 15:12.27 | darkschneider | found! |
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| 16:47.37 | darkschneider | some idea why my box is not registering the usb0 network interface anymore? |
| 16:47.50 | darkschneider | it worked yesterday.. and nothing changed.. |
| 16:48.31 | darkschneider | but ifconfig -a do not show usb0 anymore and usbnet module is listed as unused on lsmod |
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| 17:09.39 | darkschneider | mm noideas around? at least can it be dependent on the Z or it's another problem of my box? |
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| 20:08.33 | darkschneider | how do i specify to the buildroot where my cross-compiler is? |
| 20:12.43 | fdask | under Build Parameters in make menuconfig |
| 20:12.51 | fdask | or in the .config file I guess |
| 20:13.18 | fdask | CONFIG_TOOLCHAINPATH="/usr/local/arm" |
| 20:13.39 | fdask | CONFIG_USERGCC2=y |
| 20:13.39 | fdask | # CONFIG_USERGCC3 is not set |
| 20:13.39 | fdask | CONFIG_USERGCC2VER="2.95.3" |
| 20:13.40 | fdask | etc |
| 20:13.52 | fdask | have the cross compiler tools in your PATH as well |
| 20:14.43 | darkschneider | mm bad thing is that my build dir has no .config |
| 20:15.02 | darkschneider | there is some major flaw i'm not getting.. |
| 20:15.18 | fdask | did you read the files in the doc directory? |
| 20:15.38 | fdask | they would have told you that you need to copy over a suitable .config from the def-configs directory |
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| 23:30.05 | pgampe | anyone familiar with the new husky build online? |
| 23:30.40 | treke|home | yes |
| 23:36.34 | pgampe | great, I just wanted to confirm the ip-over-usb is not supported yet |
| 23:36.44 | treke|home | no it isnt |
| 23:37.07 | pgampe | thx! |
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| 23:37.36 | pgampe | it is pretty good build for me so far ... |
| 23:52.52 | *** part/#openzaurus pgampe (~pgampe@lulu.redhat.com.au) |