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| 00:31.44 | absentia | hey, anyone here with oz... could you do a find and lookfor kbdsim.o for me? thanks |
| 00:34.41 | BadCode | Hello, I have a problem upgrading OZ 3.2 to Opie 1.0, ipkg seems to hang on a package, I've heard that some packages can take some time, but it's been half an hour or something now |
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| 00:51.48 | BadCode | Hello, I have a problem upgrading OZ 3.2 to Opie 1.0, ipkg seems to hang on a package, I've heard that some packages can take some time, but it's been half an hour or something, i can't write to e.g. /bin anymore, not even after killing the ipkg processes and jffs2_gcd_mtd4 still eats up processor time |
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| 04:30.57 | Umaro | hey there.. |
| 04:31.37 | Umaro | i know the 5500 can record using the second channel, but what app can i use to record? |
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| 05:01.31 | mhes | so does the new buildroot for OZ work well for sl-5500ds? |
| 05:01.38 | mhes | i've been looking for an INSTALL doc and havent located |
| 05:01.52 | treke|home | new buildroot? |
| 05:01.54 | treke|home | you mean oe? |
| 05:02.17 | mhes | yea, that stuff work well? |
| 05:02.21 | mhes | running oz liking it |
| 05:02.28 | treke|home | It works very well |
| 05:02.29 | mhes | wondering howto upgrade to the new stuff |
| 05:02.36 | mhes | or reinstall or whatever? |
| 05:02.42 | treke|home | it isn't capable of generating an image that you are thinking of |
| 05:02.45 | treke|home | but it works very well |
| 05:02.51 | mhes | ahh |
| 05:02.55 | mhes | how should i do it then? |
| 05:03.05 | mhes | stick w/ OZ for now? |
| 05:03.18 | mhes | OZ just pauses at some weird places, little annoying quirks |
| 05:03.22 | mhes | wanted to test out OE |
| 05:03.24 | treke|home | Openembedded is a development tool |
| 05:03.33 | treke|home | you will always be running openzaurus |
| 05:03.42 | mhes | ahh ok cool |
| 05:04.06 | mhes | so as an enduser, new buildroot effects me nil? |
| 05:04.15 | treke|home | right |
| 05:04.49 | mhes | sweet, thats what i wanted to know |
| 05:04.57 | mhes | is there a CVS of OZ i can try? |
| 05:05.01 | mhes | or is that OE? |
| 05:07.48 | mhes | daamn, i cant find my 192meg CF |
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| 05:34.42 | mhes | does the Z have a page up or pagedown button? |
| 05:44.28 | W8TVI | no |
| 06:03.03 | mhes | lame |
| 06:05.54 | W8TVI | show me another pda with a page up and down button? |
| 06:06.17 | W8TVI | that has a 5-way d=pad |
| 06:08.41 | mhes | soo |
| 06:22.51 | mhes | anyone got the opera.ipk they could dcc me? |
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| 15:14.42 | dweller | evening :) |
| 15:16.10 | dweller | can someone help me with an ipkg problem? |
| 15:29.56 | dweller | if i try to install an ipkg from the filesystem i get: a "Cannot find package" error |
| 15:30.10 | dweller | even tho the ipkg is actually in the location |
| 15:30.47 | treke|home | Ipkg bug |
| 15:30.57 | treke|home | try renaming the package |
| 15:31.06 | dweller | aaah ok... can i work around it? |
| 15:31.22 | dweller | wekll i tried it with a few different packages |
| 15:31.33 | dweller | ill put in a bogus name and try |
| 15:31.57 | treke|home | if that doesnt work, your probably sol |
| 15:32.00 | treke|home | try extracting it by hand |
| 15:32.27 | dweller | yeah that didnt work |
| 15:33.28 | treke|home | so extract it by hand |
| 15:34.07 | dweller | the weird thing is i was able to use ipkg before |
| 15:34.13 | dweller | until i did the first update |
| 15:36.36 | dweller | i nuked the files in /usr/lib/ipkg hoping itd take me back to before whatever the changes that the update did |
| 15:36.41 | dweller | but to no avail |
| 15:36.48 | treke|home | Congratulations |
| 15:36.54 | treke|home | you just fucked up your install |
| 15:37.00 | dweller | nah |
| 15:37.05 | dweller | i backed them up |
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| 16:01.45 | enki | is there a standard c/c++ function to wait/sleep n milliseconds? |
| 16:02.27 | dweller | usleep |
| 16:03.00 | enki | ty |
| 16:03.07 | dweller | no probs |
| 16:03.50 | treke|home | I don't think there is a standard c way of doing it, but usleep should be fairly standard on unix's |
| 16:04.28 | dweller | the problem is more the timing chipset on your hardware |
| 16:04.50 | treke|home | hehe, that also :) |
| 16:04.51 | dweller | u wont get anywhere near the accuracy that usleep claims |
| 16:05.07 | enki | well im not picky |
| 16:05.14 | enki | i just wanna kill some time |
| 16:05.30 | dweller | heh its fine for that |
| 16:06.14 | treke|home | there was some time library that stated that the response time would be no better than 1 millisecond and no worse than 1 second :p |
| 16:06.57 | enki | ahhh its microsseconds |
| 16:07.05 | enki | which is a millioninth, right? |
| 16:07.57 | enki | very neat |
| 16:08.34 | enki | i was just working on a dice rolling function...and i just didnt want two dicerolls to happen right on top of each other, otherwise you get duplicate values, cuz of the abovementioned issues i guess |
| 16:09.42 | dweller | yeah usleep should be ok for that |
| 16:10.02 | dweller | but its more like a few millisecond accuracy really |
| 16:10.15 | dweller | varies on the hardware |
| 16:10.15 | dweller | and kernel |
| 16:10.34 | treke|home | should be fine as long as the exact time it sleeps isnt really important :) |
| 16:10.48 | enki | they can wait, uwahaha |
| 16:10.53 | dweller | hehe |
| 16:10.53 | treke|home | now if this were say, navigation software for a 747, I might go looking for a new implementation :) |
| 16:11.09 | dweller | u dont use linux fdor a start |
| 16:11.10 | enki | well thats running on NT4 neways, lol |
| 16:11.21 | treke|home | hehe true |
| 16:11.21 | enki | theyre already doomed |
| 16:11.35 | dweller | im not sure what the real time kernels are like, but normal linux kernels are horrible for real time performance |
| 16:11.47 | dweller | QNX provides far more reliability |
| 16:12.39 | treke|home | qnx is really cool |
| 16:13.58 | dweller | was :) |
| 16:14.21 | treke|home | eh? |
| 16:14.21 | dweller | regardless of the fact that its still decent, its always mandatory to refer to QNX as "was" |
| 16:14.26 | dweller | haha |
| 16:14.40 | treke|home | oh, thought they went out of business or something :p |
| 16:14.47 | dweller | nah, sorry. office joke. |
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| 16:28.58 | tiga | :) |
| 16:29.16 | tiga | hi, hope this is the right # now |
| 16:29.45 | tiga | looking for vpn client(s) .. any hints? |
| 16:32.06 | tiga | hmm nobody actually using a vpn client?! seems like university nets over ehre all use vpn :\ |
| 16:32.17 | tiga | iiiiiiiiiih |
| 16:32.21 | tiga | oops |
| 16:32.24 | treke|home | apparently no one here is |
| 16:32.35 | tiga | :( |
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| 16:43.37 | dweller | night folks! time for bed! |
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| 22:33.05 | [BoBuk] | anybody alive here? |
| 22:33.26 | godsmoke | slightly |
| 22:35.13 | [BoBuk] | i have strange problem: i try to burn OZ to my c700. get a files, drop it to CF, select menu and start CF updater. it's _stop_ on 'Rebooting the system' message. any ideas? |
| 22:35.37 | godsmoke | sorry, I have no experience with the c700 |
| 22:35.57 | godsmoke | with the SL-5500 you just hold down C + D while rebooting |
| 22:36.04 | godsmoke | and it takes care of the rest |
| 22:36.15 | [BoBuk] | heh. i don't think what it's c700 problem. looks like something terrible. :) |
| 22:36.27 | [BoBuk] | yes, in c700 it's M+D :) |
| 22:36.38 | [BoBuk] | much closer to MustDie :) |
| 22:37.28 | godsmoke | so what is this "select meny and start cf updater" |
| 22:37.32 | godsmoke | menu* |
| 22:38.06 | [BoBuk] | godsmoke: yep. here in c700 you must use MENU for reburn flashrom |
| 22:38.52 | godsmoke | so, you do this while the zaurus is on? |
| 22:39.09 | cyn | [BoBuk]: where are you getting the files for your c700 |
| 22:39.42 | [BoBuk] | cyn: at opit.handhelds. it's wrong place? |
| 22:39.54 | cyn | does it say it's for the c700 |
| 22:41.02 | cyn | "We also have one experimental feed for the SL-C7x0. The kernel image and Opie applications are compiled using gcc3.x. Contact us for more information before using them." is the one you used, yes? |
| 22:41.15 | [BoBuk] | cyn: sure :) |
| 22:41.18 | cyn | sorry, that's a feed |
| 22:41.36 | cyn | I'm trying to make sure you downloaded a flash setup for your device, as c700 isn't exactly 'standard' |
| 22:41.55 | [BoBuk] | cyn: yes i know. so, any idea? |
| 22:42.06 | cyn | well, tell me specifically where you got the rom |
| 22:42.09 | cyn | because I see no rom on their site |
| 22:42.10 | cyn | only feeds |
| 22:42.24 | [BoBuk] | so what's this http://opie.handhelds.org/image/c700/ ? :) |
| 22:42.46 | cyn | ok, that's what I was looking for |
| 22:43.13 | cyn | stopping at rebooting hmm, which means all the files should've been there and intact |
| 22:43.45 | [BoBuk] | cyn: yes. i think all files good. but it's doesn't reboot at all. :( |
| 22:44.54 | cyn | I'm not sure, I may try flashing this image sometime later and can get back to you then |
| 22:45.17 | cyn | all I could recommend is redownloading the files to make sure they're good, not just named right, and try reflashing |
| 22:46.28 | [BoBuk] | cyn: hehe. it's not so easy - i don't have cf reader here :)) i always use my c700 for this but now i can't. It's like an old joke: pkunzip.zip :) |
| 22:47.55 | [BoBuk] | cyn: okey. last question is what image you (as great guru i mean) recomend to use as 100% working? |
| 22:56.01 | treke|home | [BoBuk]: If you want 100$ working, use sharp rom |
| 22:57.31 | cyn | [BoBuk]: yeah I'm still on sharprom, but I anxiously await a new oz image after they get it all converted to openembedded |
| 22:57.54 | cyn | traditionally the answer is 'grab buildroot and make your own' but that's oftentimes easier said than done |
| 22:58.10 | cyn | especially now that the developers are working fulltime on OE instead of the old buildroot |
| 22:58.22 | treke|home | buildroot will not give you a 100% working openzaurus |
| 22:58.27 | cyn | that's also true |
| 22:58.32 | treke|home | there simply is not one for the c7x0 |
| 22:58.33 | cyn | keyboard won't be 100% for c700 |
| 22:58.43 | cyn | and a few other minors, but the kb is the main one |
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| 23:09.31 | [BoBuk] | so in short words i need to wait some time before use OZ on C700. so sad. i like OZ on my 5600. |
| 23:09.39 | treke|home | right |
| 23:10.57 | cyn | I've been waiting since april or so :) |
| 23:11.10 | treke|home | patches welcome |
| 23:11.57 | [BoBuk] | heh. :( in all other things c7x0 much better than 5xxx. but this terrible japanese so anoying me. i can't read it :( |
| 23:12.12 | godsmoke | the 5600s aren't too good |
| 23:12.29 | [BoBuk] | treke|home: i can't patch cause can't load my Z :) in other words - i have nothing to test :) |
| 23:12.36 | godsmoke | their benchmarks against the 5500s were horrid |
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| 23:32.01 | [BoBuk] | okey, thanks all (and cyn especialy)! bye! |