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| 00:47.04 | BeTa-glop | lo |
| 00:47.35 | BeTa-glop | I can't make my C700 respawning after a "black screen" (long time idleing) |
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| 00:47.45 | BeTa-glop | does anyone know how to do ? |
| 00:48.01 | BeTa-glop | that's ok |
| 00:48.05 | BeTa-glop | strange :c/ |
| 00:48.16 | treke|home | BeTa-glop: pull the power and restart |
| 00:48.32 | BeTa-glop | strong method :c/ |
| 00:48.35 | BeTa-glop | isn't it ? |
| 00:50.36 | treke|home | If it freezes while suspsended, thats your only option |
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| 01:49.11 | Marsupilami23 | kergoth: With a base system, do I need ncurses? |
| 01:49.28 | Marsupilami23 | Stupid questiong, nevermind |
| 01:49.29 | kergoth | does anything you _do_ need need ncurses? |
| 01:49.37 | kergoth | install libs when something you need needs them, and only then |
| 01:51.35 | Marsupilami23 | Like aalib |
| 01:51.41 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:59.16 | Pendalar | why do people knock aalib? |
| 02:00.54 | treke|home | because it's an idea only a mentally disturbed person would come up with |
| 02:01.25 | Marsupilami23 | Who's "knocking" on aalib? |
| 02:01.32 | treke|home | I will |
| 02:07.52 | Marsupilami23 | kergoth: base-passwd is giving me an error when trying to build a package... *** Error: package script CONTROL/postinst is not executable |
| 02:08.15 | kergoth | yeah, i know, we fixed that the other day, dont think it got pushed yet |
| 02:08.19 | kergoth | i have like 8 pending csets |
| 02:08.23 | kergoth | i'll sync my tree in a bit |
| 02:09.15 | Marsupilami23 | thats fine... |
| 02:09.48 | kergoth | Marsupilami23: bk pull in your 'oe' tree, make sure you're up to date |
| 02:09.54 | kergoth | then clean adn rebuild the package you're trying to ipk |
| 02:09.58 | kergoth | see if that takes care of it |
| 02:10.11 | Marsupilami23 | ok |
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| 02:38.18 | treke|home | ooemake is cool when it works |
| 02:42.48 | Marsupilami23 | hell ya |
| 02:43.41 | treke|home | I spoke too soon :p |
| 02:43.55 | Marsupilami23 | HAHAHA |
| 02:44.26 | Marsupilami23 | me too |
| 02:45.27 | treke|home | autoconf just decided it isnt going to work :p |
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| 02:46.39 | Marsupilami23 | And I can't get mine to package |
| 02:51.00 | Marsupilami23 | got it |
| 02:53.30 | treke|home | ah I see, it isnt liking aclocal defaults |
| 02:56.51 | Marsupilami23 | Be cool to get GCC3 cross compilied |
| 02:57.05 | Marsupilami23 | And everything else thats needed... |
| 03:05.16 | Marsupilami23 | kergoth: Still having the same problem with base-passwd |
| 03:10.35 | kergoth | Marsupilami23: then you'll have to wait for me to push a few changesets |
| 03:10.45 | kergoth | or just stop making ipks (remove package_ipk from INHERIT) |
| 03:12.08 | Marsupilami23 | I can wait |
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| 03:12.44 | kergoth | spent some time yesterday working through an oemake -a run |
| 03:13.00 | kergoth | fixed a ton of build issues that hadnt cropped up due to build ordering |
| 03:20.00 | treke|home | hmmm, do I need to inherit pkgconfig or something to see the staging pkgcongig entries? |
| 03:20.27 | kergoth | its a pkgconfig var that it obeys, its set globally |
| 03:20.32 | kergoth | should always be obeyed |
| 03:20.44 | kergoth | but if your app calls pkg-config, it should have pkgconfig-native in DEPENDS |
| 03:20.50 | kergoth | so it uses my patched version |
| 03:21.06 | kergoth | guess we could do it via a class if you want, just in case we end up having to do extra stuff |
| 03:23.42 | treke|home | if it works ass it is, no point in making a class |
| 03:24.01 | treke|home | I see the problem though |
| 03:24.07 | kergoth | k. just need to make sure anybody calling it depends on it |
| 03:24.11 | treke|home | $STAGING_DIR/share/pkgconfig isnt a directory :p |
| 03:24.27 | kergoth | heh,it wont be until you've built something that installs .pc files there |
| 03:24.32 | kergoth | like directfb |
| 03:24.36 | kergoth | the glib 1.2 package doesnt yet |
| 03:24.40 | treke|home | kergoth: No, I mean it's a plain textfile |
| 03:24.47 | kergoth | hah |
| 03:25.03 | kergoth | somebody did an install blah $STAGING_DIR/share/pkgconfig instead of install blah $STAGING_DIR/share/pkgconfig/ |
| 03:25.08 | treke|home | pkgcopnfig-native should probably make it :p |
| 03:25.11 | kergoth | that trailing / will catch the nonexistance |
| 03:25.13 | kergoth | yeah |
| 03:25.32 | treke|home | just to catch that case |
| 03:25.55 | kergoth | its just good policy to specify either the full path of the output file in a cp/install |
| 03:25.58 | kergoth | or use a trailing / |
| 03:26.13 | kergoth | since we've been bitten by that crap on numerous occasions |
| 03:26.29 | treke|home | k, let's see if xfont builds now |
| 03:26.34 | kergoth | k |
| 03:29.11 | treke|home | install didn't create the directory on it's own, so I added it to the pkgconfig oe |
| 03:30.15 | kergoth | cool |
| 03:32.49 | ljp | thats ingenius! |
| 03:35.22 | treke|home | it's funny. oe is a whole lot better than buildroot, but it's still a freaking hous of cards :p |
| 03:35.44 | kergoth | heh, thats mostly due to its portage codebase, bugs in the parser, that sort of deal |
| 03:35.59 | kergoth | the new c++ backend and a xmlrpc interfaced autobuild daemon will be nice |
| 03:36.15 | treke|home | I'm thinking more of stuff like it works for a while, then it suddenly doesnt see libtool any mor |
| 03:36.27 | kergoth | i havent seen that |
| 03:36.42 | kergoth | if you change the build order, shit can break though, due to broken configure.in's in some packages |
| 03:36.46 | kergoth | i'm fixing that though |
| 03:36.52 | treke|home | I don't know how I did it, but all of the suddent stuff doesnt see it |
| 03:36.58 | kergoth | only a few lurking possible issue |
| 03:37.01 | kergoth | s left |
| 03:37.22 | treke|home | so I can no longer build pkgconfig :p |
| 03:50.42 | treke|home | missing Xos.h |
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| 05:46.45 | dee-vee | Anychance we get new OZ for xmas? ;) |
| 05:46.52 | kergoth | highly doubtful |
| 05:46.58 | dee-vee | argh! |
| 05:47.07 | mithro | how goes OE? |
| 05:47.16 | kergoth | well |
| 05:47.18 | dee-vee | My Z is collecting to much dust |
| 05:47.21 | dee-vee | needs new oz! |
| 05:47.43 | kergoth | we have around 150 packages that output around 290 subpackages/ipks/tarballs/rpms |
| 05:48.21 | mithro | so what is the timeline for oe to produce oz images? |
| 05:48.36 | kergoth | it builds bootable images now |
| 05:48.39 | kergoth | minus /etc/fstab |
| 05:48.43 | kergoth | and /dev population |
| 05:48.45 | kergoth | i use it at work |
| 05:48.56 | mithro | so how long till opie? |
| 05:49.16 | kergoth | I'm not adding opie until i rewrite opie's buildsystem, restrucutre its source repositories, and move it into bk |
| 05:49.20 | kergoth | if someone else wants to, they can |
| 05:49.39 | mithro | okay :) |
| 05:49.50 | mithro | well I might give it a wirl after my exams |
| 05:50.40 | mithro | depending on my time, picked up a 2.2gig Microdrive yesterday |
| 05:50.55 | mithro | only $200 US (inc shipping) |
| 06:04.38 | dee-vee | is there a vnc server package that works with OZ 3.2 without having to hack it? |
| 06:04.45 | kergoth | ? |
| 06:04.55 | kergoth | the fbvncserver package in the feeds is just fine. |
| 06:05.07 | kergoth | the problem with the vnc server in 3.2 is with 3.2, not with the server. |
| 06:05.08 | dee-vee | hmm ok |
| 06:05.12 | kergoth | another server would fail in the exact same way. |
| 06:05.22 | dee-vee | i havent tried it in months |
| 06:05.26 | dee-vee | but before it would not work |
| 06:05.31 | kergoth | read the mailing list archives |
| 06:05.45 | kergoth | its been discussed on like 10 occasions |
| 06:05.46 | kergoth | at least |
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| 06:26.12 | treke|home | great |
| 06:26.25 | treke|home | now dee-vee is posting to the forums that there will be no new oz this year |
| 06:26.38 | kergoth | heh |
| 06:26.48 | kergoth | i love how likelihood suddenly becomes fact |
| 06:26.54 | kergoth | idiocy |
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| 06:35.22 | ljp | funny. I just made me a new oz today |
| 06:35.58 | mithro | ljp: offical :) |
| 06:37.14 | ljp | it is offical |
| 06:37.30 | ljp | whats official mean, anyway? |
| 06:37.46 | ljp | _anyone_ can create an oz image |
| 06:38.01 | kergoth | official oz means i built it |
| 06:38.02 | kergoth | :P |
| 06:38.06 | kergoth | and declared it released |
| 06:38.42 | ljp | bleh |
| 06:39.01 | kergoth | hehe |
| 06:39.02 | ljp | heh |
| 06:39.07 | treke|home | closedzaurus |
| 06:39.18 | ljp | no. coolzaurus |
| 06:39.25 | kergoth | auzaurus |
| 06:39.31 | ljp | available in opie and qtopia versions |
| 06:39.51 | ljp | auzaurus. I like that |
| 06:40.10 | treke|home | how can it be cool if it has a qtopia version ? |
| 06:40.16 | kergoth | hehe |
| 06:40.51 | ljp | opie wouldnt exist without qtopia. :) |
| 06:41.05 | treke|home | yeah, we'd all be happily using gpe |
| 06:41.18 | ljp | ha! |
| 06:41.30 | ljp | on what? an agenda? |
| 06:41.35 | treke|home | an ipaq |
| 06:42.00 | ljp | and pay a MS tax. no thanks |
| 06:44.15 | treke|home | kergoth: looks like a -I is sneaking through pkgconfig |
| 06:44.34 | kergoth | it shows up when you call the staging version directly? |
| 06:44.35 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 06:44.44 | kergoth | maybe my pkgconfig patch isnt doing what it should |
| 06:44.48 | treke|home | lemme try calling it directly |
| 06:44.56 | kergoth | k |
| 06:45.06 | treke|home | I can see the XPROTO_CFLAGS getting chopped, but not X11_CFLAGS |
| 06:45.29 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 06:46.03 | treke|home | ggilbert@olddog:~/oe/oe-build/tmp$ /home/ggilbert/oe/oe-build/tmp/staging/build/bin/pkg-config xtrans --cflags |
| 06:46.07 | treke|home | -I/usr/include/X11/Xtrans |
| 06:46.54 | kergoth | can you paste or email xtrans.pc? |
| 06:47.44 | treke|home | prefix=/usr |
| 06:47.44 | treke|home | exec_prefix=/usr |
| 06:47.44 | treke|home | libdir=/usr/lib |
| 06:47.44 | treke|home | includedir=/usr/include |
| 06:47.44 | treke|home | xtransincludedir=/usr/include/X11/Xtrans |
| 06:47.47 | treke|home | Name: XTrans |
| 06:47.49 | treke|home | Description: Abstract network code for X |
| 06:47.52 | treke|home | Version: 0.1 |
| 06:47.54 | treke|home | Cflags: -I${xtransincludedir} -I${includedir} |
| 06:48.12 | kergoth | includedir doesnt end up in the outputted clfags when you call it? |
| 06:48.15 | kergoth | just xflagsincludedir? |
| 06:48.26 | treke|home | right, just xtransincludedir |
| 06:48.29 | kergoth | interesting |
| 06:48.32 | kergoth | k, i'll check into it |
| 06:48.43 | treke|home | is it part of configure.patch? |
| 06:48.49 | kergoth | can you send me a quick email with the output of your pkg-config execution, and the .pc, so i wont forget? :) |
| 06:48.56 | treke|home | sure. |
| 06:49.17 | kergoth | hmm, no |
| 06:49.25 | kergoth | where the fuck did my pkgconfig patch go? |
| 06:49.38 | treke|home | That could explain quite a bity |
| 06:49.41 | kergoth | indeed |
| 06:49.51 | mithro | ljp: you work at TT right? |
| 06:50.43 | kergoth | werid |
| 06:50.44 | kergoth | weird |
| 06:50.52 | kergoth | i know i put the patch in bk.. |
| 06:50.52 | kergoth | hmm |
| 06:50.56 | ljp | who me? |
| 06:51.13 | mithro | no/yes? |
| 06:51.23 | ljp | I'm only there for the beer, and food |
| 06:51.30 | kergoth | and surf girls |
| 06:51.34 | mithro | he he :) |
| 06:51.44 | ljp | yup. butI have yet to see any in the office |
| 06:51.59 | treke|home | bring that up with management |
| 06:52.03 | kergoth | hehe |
| 06:52.08 | ljp | I tried |
| 06:52.26 | ljp | but there is no 'surf girls' provision in my contract |
| 06:52.29 | mithro | so would you be able to confirm that TT does not have a w100 accelerated QtE driver? |
| 06:52.29 | kergoth | "guys, the lack of surf girls is really lowering morale" |
| 06:52.41 | kergoth | mithro: it was probably sharp that did it, not TT. |
| 06:52.44 | ljp | w100? |
| 06:53.00 | treke|home | ljp: the graphics chip in the c7x0 |
| 06:53.02 | mithro | kergoth: yeah - thats what i'm thinking, but couldn't hurt to ask |
| 06:53.04 | ljp | oh |
| 06:53.14 | ljp | not in 2.3.x |
| 06:53.15 | mithro | ATI Imgeon (sp?) |
| 06:53.22 | ljp | not real sure about 3. |
| 06:53.37 | ljp | I can certianly suggest more accel drivers in 4 |
| 06:53.50 | treke|home | suggest releasing some of them :) |
| 06:54.07 | treke|home | nda's be damned |
| 06:54.25 | ljp | ? |
| 06:56.39 | ljp | but I bet I get an, "Sharp can supply that, or pay us to write it" |
| 06:58.00 | treke|home | tell them greg said to release it |
| 06:58.12 | kergoth | thatll make em change their minds |
| 06:58.13 | kergoth | heh |
| 06:58.13 | ljp | I dont think there is one |
| 06:58.53 | ljp | I can certainly look when I get into work. I would do it now, but I can't get in currently |
| 06:59.17 | treke|home | kergoth: not really, but while they are falling over laughing he can sneak out of the office with a cd full of code |
| 06:59.37 | ljp | heh |
| 06:59.54 | ljp | don;t bite the hand that feeds you |
| 07:00.03 | treke|home | trolltech doesnt feed me |
| 07:00.16 | ljp | they feeds me sandwiches and beer |
| 07:00.30 | treke|home | start sharing and I'll start caring. |
| 07:00.32 | treke|home | :) |
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| 07:03.40 | treke|z | now this is living |
| 07:04.39 | treke|z | comfy bed, warm blankie, and 802.11b |
| 07:05.28 | treke|z | surf girls making waffles |
| 07:05.37 | kergoth | thatd rule |
| 07:09.50 | ljp | naked surf girls eating waffles and playing with the syrup |
| 07:12.42 | ljp | are there docs on the w100 somewhere? |
| 07:12.55 | kergoth | ati hasnt released jack on their imageon stuff |
| 07:12.57 | kergoth | bastards |
| 07:13.18 | ljp | sharp doesnt have access? :) |
| 07:13.28 | kergoth | heh |
| 07:13.44 | ljp | ak! sharks eatting surf girls' arms in hawaii! |
| 07:14.01 | kergoth | doh |
| 07:14.34 | mithro | the mplayer guys have figure out some of the yuv12 translation stuff |
| 07:28.00 | treke|z | sash was workin on some stuff |
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| 12:03.50 | tigerpig | are snapshots of OE available or do I need bk? |
| 12:11.53 | tigerpig | ahah, found it |
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| 12:17.44 | BeTa | lo |
| 12:18.10 | BeTa | is that possible to upgrade from the corgi feed to the testing/unstable feeds w/o many problem ? (I'm on a C700) |
| 12:21.21 | mithro | testing/unstable feeds? |
| 12:21.46 | BeTa | yes... those one in oz.org/official/testing/feed |
| 12:21.56 | BeTa | or something like that :c) |
| 12:23.13 | tigerpig | I'm on C700 too |
| 12:23.30 | tigerpig | I am wondering what is best to try |
| 12:23.31 | mithro | they are for 5500/5000 |
| 12:23.38 | mithro | not for C7x0 |
| 12:23.45 | tigerpig | Opie C700, buildroot, OE ... |
| 12:24.03 | mithro | the only feed for the C700 is in the one you are using |
| 12:24.11 | mithro | (well OZ feed) |
| 12:24.23 | mithro | buildroot is being phased out in favour for OE |
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| 12:24.34 | mithro | however OE isn't ready to produce Opie images yet |
| 12:24.36 | tigerpig | mithro: what about the Opie C700 feed? |
| 12:25.03 | mithro | tigerpig: that feed is produced by opie people I belive, not OZ - however it should work fine |
| 12:25.05 | tigerpig | do buildroot/OE build a kernel too, or just rootfs and packages? |
| 12:25.20 | tigerpig | mithro: they say "contact us before using" for some reason |
| 12:25.34 | mithro | buildroot produces a kernel too, however i have never got it to build a kernel which works for me |
| 12:25.43 | tigerpig | hmm |
| 12:25.57 | tigerpig | so can you mix an OZ kernel with your own rootfs somehow? |
| 12:26.56 | mithro | yeah |
| 12:27.15 | tigerpig | I haven't found any info on how to do that yet |
| 12:27.51 | mithro | you just use the zImage from OZ and the initrd.bin that you created |
| 12:28.39 | tigerpig | oh, that simple :) so buildroot/OE both produce a zImage and a initrd? |
| 12:30.49 | mithro | well OE produces a very minimal initrd |
| 12:31.02 | tigerpig | ok. do you have to build an entire feed with buildroot/OE or can you just build the packages you want? |
| 12:31.10 | tigerpig | sounds like building everything would take a loonnng time |
| 12:31.27 | mithro | btw buildroot/OE is diffrent :) |
| 12:31.42 | mithro | you can just build the packages you want |
| 12:31.55 | tigerpig | cool |
| 12:32.03 | tigerpig | yes, I realise buildroot and OE are different |
| 12:32.16 | tigerpig | someone said you can use c750 rootfs on c700, is that true? |
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| 12:46.21 | mithro | tigerpig: i belive you may be able to |
| 12:46.40 | tigerpig | just discovered sash's ROMs |
| 12:47.14 | tigerpig | and sukoshi's... |
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| 12:49.55 | tigerpig | I wonder if OZ packages work with these ROMs? |
| 13:00.32 | Zaurino | tiger can you give me url of that roms ? |
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| 13:01.23 | tigerpig | http://laurent.lieben.free.fr/ |
| 13:01.58 | tigerpig | http://www.cacko.biz/test321/slc7x0upd1.18.en.zip |
| 13:03.07 | tigerpig | http://externe.net/zaurus/forum/viewtopic.php?t=495 |
| 13:04.30 | Zaurino | k k nothing about 5600 |
| 13:04.30 | Zaurino | :/ |
| 13:37.47 | BeTa-glop | any advise to make my buffalo air station wifi CF card working on OZ ? |
| 13:39.15 | mithro | anyone here using a C7x0 and a Serial Cable? |
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| 13:40.40 | BeTa-glop | mithro: nope, sorry :c/ |
| 13:43.20 | BeTa-glop | mithro: do you know if we can use Z's USB like an USB master ? |
| 13:43.36 | BeTa-glop | for example, to plug USB keys or things like that ? |
| 13:44.26 | mithro | BeTa-glop: yes and no - it technicaly doesn't have a USB host but it can do some limited USB hosty type of things |
| 13:46.44 | mithro | i have found a few japanese sites which talk about getting USB Keyboards etc working |
| 13:50.18 | BeTa-glop | arf !!! enormous |
| 13:50.38 | BeTa-glop | not on a CF-USB card ? on the zaurus's USB ?? |
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| 14:17.54 | pizzathief | doh |
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| 15:27.00 | BeTa-glop | if anybody would have a tip to configure the buffalo wifi card (wli2-cf-s11)... I would be REALLY pleased |
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| 15:50.45 | BeTa-glop | great !! |
| 15:50.57 | BeTa-glop | my buffalo 802.11b CF card is now working !! :c) |
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| 15:58.29 | tigerpig | BeTa-glop: which ROM are you using? |
| 15:59.46 | BeTa-glop | corgi one |
| 15:59.51 | BeTa-glop | experimental |
| 15:59.55 | BeTa-glop | on a C700 |
| 16:00.25 | BeTa-glop | but I have difficulties to get my friend on wifi (ad-hoc mode) |
| 16:00.59 | BeTa-glop | I've never plaid w/ wifi before... so it might be something regular :cb |
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| 16:18.31 | aw | i read on the faq that there are some speed problems if one uses ext2, the same happens with ext3 or minix? |
| 16:18.48 | treke|home | ext3 isnt supported. |
| 16:19.18 | treke|home | minix Can't be any larger than 64mb |
| 16:19.19 | aw | ah, well just asked cause the mkfs.ext3 is there... |
| 16:19.30 | aw | ok |
| 16:19.36 | aw | so ext2 is THE choise. |
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| 16:23.01 | aw | so, if i installed the rom that frees up all the RAM in an 5000d, how can i install stuff on an SD and have all the links registered in ROM... or is it not really ROM? |
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| 16:28.00 | aw | all the gui stuff has to run as root? |
| 16:35.00 | aw | what wifi cards are supported? |
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| 17:19.38 | aw | no list somewhere of what wifi cards supported? |
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| 17:51.40 | aw | no list somewhere of what wifi cards supported? |
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| 18:06.18 | kc8apf | aw: there is, but I don't remember where it is now |
| 18:09.34 | kc8apf | aw: i just picked up a linksys wcf12 and it works flawlessley with OZ3.2 |
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| 18:47.25 | jeroen_ | is there a descriptio about the different memories and boot(strap)loader's in the c7x0 series ? |
| 18:47.38 | treke|home | huh? |
| 18:47.43 | kergoth | ? |
| 18:47.46 | treke|home | there is just one image for each device |
| 18:48.26 | jeroen_ | I'm building buildroot for c700, suceeded with gcc-2.95 but keeps failing with gcc-3.3 |
| 18:48.44 | treke|home | You need to build the kernel with 2.95 |
| 18:49.11 | jeroen_ | I now want to start from scratch, building my own kernel + filesystem. But I don;t understand the memory layout and bootstrap method's |
| 18:49.43 | jeroen_ | I did, at least, I thoink buildroot did ? |
| 18:50.41 | jeroen_ | I'll try one of my old gcc-2.95 build kernel.. |
| 18:52.18 | aw | kc8apf: Thanks... I saw a card at best buy, it's an ambicom wave2net, and it's ony 69 dls.. any idea if it is supported? |
| 18:55.41 | jeroen_ | my gcc-3.3 build boot with my old kernel ! but the keypad doeesn't work ? |
| 18:56.13 | jeroen_ | special character seem to show on the framebuffer ? |
| 19:04.35 | jeroen_ | what can be the reason of my c700 keypad not working ? The special charater's show up in the middle of the screen ? |
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| 19:19.38 | BeTa-dino | is there anything to replace portmap in OZ ? |
| 19:20.00 | BeTa-dino | 'cause taking 5 minutes per nfsmount... it takes a lot of time !! |
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| 21:28.41 | BeTa-glop | grrrr... I'd really like to know if I can upgrade OZ from the corgi tree to the unstable or testing one |
| 21:28.46 | BeTa-glop | can anybody help me ? |
| 22:16.05 | treke|home | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:18.02 | BeTa-glop | :c/ |
| 22:18.09 | BeTa-glop | why ? all is ARM ? isn't it ? |
| 22:18.25 | BeTa-glop | it is not enough optimized to make it incompatible... isn't it ? |
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| 23:16.26 | BeTa-glop | why can't I upgrade to unstable from corgi experimental release ? |
| 23:23.18 | kergoth | BeTa-glop: optimizations are irrelevent. deviceisms are not. |
| 23:24.30 | BeTa-glop | deviceisms ? |
| 23:24.42 | kergoth | yes, packages which are changed based on device |
| 23:24.42 | BeTa-glop | what do u mean q/ deviceisms ? |
| 23:24.56 | kergoth | like qte, modutils, etc etc |
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| 23:25.12 | BeTa-glop | fsck |
| 23:25.35 | BeTa-glop | is there any project which aims to upgrade the corgi release ? |
| 23:25.41 | kergoth | ? |
| 23:25.49 | kergoth | when OZ releases, corgi will be supported. |
| 23:25.51 | kergoth | so i dont see what you mean |
| 23:25.59 | kergoth | 99% of all improvements to OZ affect every supported device |
| 23:26.20 | BeTa-glop | I've heard about something in the ML... and I've answered that I would be ok to test... but there was nothing more :c/ |
| 23:26.28 | kergoth | ? |
| 23:26.32 | kergoth | nothing OFFICIAL |
| 23:26.40 | kergoth | why would someone start a project when OZ already works with it? |
| 23:26.42 | kergoth | fucking idiocy |
| 23:26.44 | kergoth | so no. |
| 23:26.45 | BeTa-glop | I'm running a C700... so I've put a OZ corgi releaze on |
| 23:26.50 | kergoth | good for you. |
| 23:26.59 | kergoth | there is no official release, you're on your own. |
| 23:27.07 | BeTa-glop | there is one |
| 23:27.15 | BeTa-glop | an experimental official release |
| 23:27.36 | treke|home | experimental == we randomly built and hope it works |
| 23:28.18 | BeTa-glop | I know that... but I don't have time to build :c( only a little time to test... so I hoped someone would be on it ;c) |
| 23:28.35 | BeTa-glop | but I can't understand why a C700 is such different in front of a C750 ? |
| 23:28.45 | kergoth | experimental is NOT A FUCKING RELEASE |
| 23:28.49 | kergoth | its an image i threw up there for testing |
| 23:28.50 | kergoth | period |
| 23:29.09 | BeTa-glop | I know that... why are you CAPSLOCKING ? ;c) |
| 23:29.11 | kergoth | what does c700 vs c750 have to do with unstable? unstable was a collie build |
| 23:29.18 | kergoth | because maybe itll sink into your skull that way |
| 23:29.25 | kergoth | you said it was a release. it isnt. get your facts straight. |
| 23:30.25 | BeTa-glop | arf I'm sorry if I've offensed yourself |
| 23:31.08 | kergoth | you have no idea how much *wrong* information i have to correct because people like yourself make incorrect statements and others believe it. |
| 23:31.23 | cyn_ | WAIT WHEN IS THE NEW UNSTABLE RELEASE COMING OUT |
| 23:31.40 | cyn | er experimental |
| 23:31.42 | cyn | bah ruined it |
| 23:31.47 | cyn | can't even troll today |
| 23:31.54 | kergoth | experimentals are never released :) |
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| 23:49.28 | tigerpig | ideally I would go OE and contribute to that but my time is very limited :-/ |
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| 23:55.17 | __andras__ | hi all |
| 23:55.20 | BeTa-glop | zImage.bin |
| 23:55.23 | BeTa-glop | hi __andras__ |
| 23:55.36 | __andras__ | how do i build an initrd.bin for the c750 (shepherd)? |
| 23:56.14 | tigerpig | BeTa-glop: thanks |
| 23:56.25 | __andras__ | i've the got files in a directory structure, i've got mkfs.jffs2, and i've got the device table file, and the c700 header as well |
| 23:57.05 | __andras__ | i just can't seem to get the mkfs.jffs2 options right -- whatever i do, the c750 just hangs with a flashing cursor under the openzaurus logo after flashing and rebooting |
| 23:59.25 | __andras__ | in oz buildroot, config_eraseblock is set to 16384, in the kernel conf file, it's set to 0 |