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| 00:51.16 | enki | anyone here using the husky image in unoffical/experimental? |
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| 01:26.26 | tpdd | hello anyone here really on top of security setup on openzaurus? |
| 01:27.20 | kergoth | tpdd: with regard to..? |
| 01:28.11 | tpdd | I have openzaurus 3.2 running and my trying to use multisync. The qtopiadesktop works fine but when i use multisync or try to ftp to my zaurus the connection is refuesed |
| 01:29.18 | kergoth | you ftp on port 4242, not the standard ftp port |
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| 01:29.33 | kergoth | its not a full ftp protocol implementation, just a minimal server used for syncing |
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| 01:31.41 | tpdd | OK so this channel rocks. I read that but it didnt sink in. Thanks |
| 01:31.51 | kergoth | np |
| 01:32.16 | kergoth | would be nice to get it using scp or something instead, but .. |
| 01:32.38 | kergoth | at least, optionally. gotta keep the old method regardless for compatibility |
| 01:32.46 | nerdboy | it's not the full ssh? |
| 01:33.16 | kergoth | ? |
| 01:35.06 | nerdboy | doesn't ssh usually instal the sftp and scp stuff? |
| 01:36.08 | kergoth | scp just opens an ssh connection and starts an scp instance on the other end, afaik |
| 01:36.27 | kergoth | scp isnt a subset of ssh, its something on top |
| 01:36.57 | kergoth | i said scp since its a file transfer in this instance.. i'm not talking about replacing the qcop bridge communications method, just the file transfer method |
| 01:37.06 | kergoth | (though running a qcop bridge over ssh is a possibility as well) |
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| 04:38.40 | tanq_ | how does 4Mbps of transfer translate to bandwidth usage for shared hosting |
| 04:54.46 | treke|home | ? |
| 04:54.56 | tanq_ | ? |
| 05:02.19 | __andras__ | treke|home: is it possible that the sharp bootloader resets the rtc on boot? |
| 05:04.19 | treke|home | __andras__: It's possible, but unlikely |
| 05:04.37 | __andras__ | i've been looking for the reason why the rtc gets reset on reboot |
| 05:04.47 | treke|home | I told you the reason last night. |
| 05:05.39 | __andras__ | treke|home: according to the pxa255 data sheet, the cpu must either be powered down completely (which it isn't during reboot, i suppose) or get a full (hardware!) reset for the rtc to be reset |
| 05:05.56 | __andras__ | treke|home: there's also no erratum for the rtc, so i suppose it works as it should |
| 05:06.07 | __andras__ | treke|home: so it must be the kernel or the bootloader |
| 05:08.22 | __andras__ | treke|home: also, do you know where i can get the instruction set manual for the xscale from? i couldn't find it on intel's and arm's websites |
| 05:08.31 | treke|home | Intel probably sells it |
| 05:09.15 | treke|home | __andras__: It sounds to me like the hard reset is what occurs during the typical reboot |
| 05:10.49 | treke|home | sign up with the arm linux mailing list. They will most likely know why it works the way it does |
| 05:10.56 | __andras__ | treke|home: that would be very unusual, given the fact that the linux kernel reboots by essentially just jumping to address 0, no hardware reset etc. occurs |
| 05:11.04 | __andras__ | treke|home: will do |
| 05:16.00 | treke|home | or ask pb tomorrow. He'd probably understand whats happenning |
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| 07:10.57 | ominae | hello |
| 07:11.13 | ominae | anyone able to get there z to sync with redhat |
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| 07:29.33 | keta | hi all |
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| 08:10.18 | ominae2 | hi, been trying to put OZ on my zaurus sl 5500 but it won't flash |
| 08:10.49 | ominae2 | powerlight and mail light come on but when i turn Z back all i get is the sharp logo |
| 08:10.58 | ominae2 | any suggestions |
| 08:11.34 | ominae2 | follow instructions to a t on oz.org |
| 08:13.28 | lpotter | hit the reset button again after the flash? |
| 08:14.00 | lpotter | zIMage is named 'zImage'? |
| 08:15.21 | ominae2 | yeah |
| 08:17.27 | ominae2 | lpotter where you able to sync with a linux box? |
| 08:17.58 | lpotter | with opie? |
| 08:18.03 | lpotter | yes and no |
| 08:18.32 | ominae2 | how about with OZ |
| 08:19.24 | ominae2 | hey it says rename initrd to initrd.bin, but it is alrealy a .bin ext |
| 08:19.40 | lpotter | opie changed the pim data a bit, and so qtopia desktop doesnt understand some of it |
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| 08:20.21 | ominae2 | this is wack |
| 08:20.38 | ominae2 | i have followed the instructions exactly and it still don't work |
| 08:22.34 | lpotter | how long do the lights stay on for? |
| 08:22.50 | ominae2 | about 5 minutes |
| 08:23.08 | ominae2 | ok i am on windows now formating to fat16 again just incase |
| 08:23.50 | lpotter | and you are sure you are flashing the oz zImage? |
| 08:24.52 | ominae2 | i have a sl5500 i should be using zImage-SL-5500-64memory-0storage.bin right |
| 08:26.18 | crush | when it flashes for about 5 minutes, it should be done |
| 08:26.26 | lpotter | you have a sd card too? |
| 08:26.30 | crush | but you need to put the 'replace battery' switch back to operation mode |
| 08:26.57 | crush | sd? zauri don't flash from sd |
| 08:27.09 | ominae2 | i'm using a compact flash |
| 08:27.30 | lpotter | with 64/0 I think you need sd also |
| 08:27.32 | ominae2 | i don't put the normal mode battery switch on until i do the final reset |
| 08:27.37 | ominae2 | then power up |
| 08:27.51 | ominae2 | i just formatted the card and trying it again |
| 08:28.18 | crush | lpotter, what for would one need that sd then? |
| 08:28.30 | ominae2 | i got a sd card too in my card reader |
| 08:28.42 | lpotter | cause with 64/0 you have no sorage |
| 08:28.55 | lpotter | storage |
| 08:28.59 | crush | eh, true |
| 08:29.01 | ominae2 | what image do you recommend? |
| 08:29.08 | lpotter | I dont recommend the 64/0, personally |
| 08:29.22 | lpotter | on my 5000d I use the 24/6 |
| 08:29.30 | lpotter | so for you the 48/12 |
| 08:30.04 | crush | depends on how much software you expect to install |
| 08:30.11 | J | ominae2: you did rename zImage didn't you...? |
| 08:30.16 | ominae2 | 48/16 you mean |
| 08:30.19 | crush | however, you can also use your CF-card for software once you flashed it succesfully |
| 08:30.26 | lpotter | well, with 0 you dont even have room for settings config changes |
| 08:30.33 | ominae2 | if it every happens again it failed |
| 08:31.00 | ominae2 | what is the debugbin |
| 08:31.29 | J | afaik, the normal stuff + some debug |
| 08:31.41 | crush | that's a rom that outputs extra debugging information - you don't want it. |
| 08:31.51 | ominae2 | k |
| 08:31.54 | ominae2 | hangon |
| 08:37.47 | ominae2 | ok i am downloading the initrd saving it as allfiles and renaming it initrd.bin and i am downloading the zimage and saving as all files and renaming it zimage.bin .... wtf... |
| 08:38.14 | J | not zimage.bin zImage (with NO extension!) |
| 08:38.26 | ominae2 | ok |
| 08:39.12 | J | ominae2: sorry to shout, but (AFAIU) case is important and so is the lack of extension |
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| 08:39.44 | crush | Sharp noticing, J |
| 08:40.56 | crush | However, openzaurus.org says: "Be sure to rename your zImage-[5000d|5500]-Xmemory-Ystorage.bin to just "zImage" and make sure your initrd is named "initrd.bin"." |
| 08:42.51 | ominae2 | well i did that before and it still didn't work this is the last try |
| 08:43.10 | J | what OS did you use to do the rename? |
| 08:43.13 | ominae2 | how the hell can sharp make a linux pda and it doesn't sync with linux |
| 08:43.21 | ominae2 | windowsxp now |
| 08:43.54 | J | AFAIK, windows *can't* rename a file to not have an extension (at least w2k can't) from Explorer |
| 08:44.11 | J | never mind. I lied. |
| 08:44.17 | crush | Hmm |
| 08:44.19 | ominae2 | no kidding you did |
| 08:44.34 | J | ominae2: f' you too! |
| 08:44.36 | crush | the files on the card I last flashed with are named zImage and initrd.bin (WITH .bin) |
| 09:11.51 | J | lpotter: that'd work too :) |
| 09:20.16 | Twiun | mornin' |
| 09:21.44 | Twiun | You didn't forward me that email ;) |
| 09:23.26 | lpotter | dang it. I meant too |
| 09:24.04 | Twiun | I'll remind you in 12 hours |
| 09:24.55 | lpotter | hehe |
| 09:25.42 | Twiun | I do hope I can come to _some_ agreement with TT on this eventually though - I don't actually want to create a competing OSS package |
| 09:27.24 | __andras__ | Twiun: morning |
| 09:27.41 | __andras__ | what OSS package, if you allow me to be nosey? |
| 09:27.57 | Twiun | __andras__: replacement for TT's QtAWT |
| 09:28.19 | Twiun | __andras__: theirs isn't publicly available anyway |
| 09:28.22 | __andras__ | Twiun: ok, so it's userspace, not kernelspace |
| 09:28.35 | Twiun | __andras__: yeah, definately userspace |
| 09:28.57 | __andras__ | Twiun: i'm just asking because aumix doesn't work with the oss driver in the sharp kernel, which is a pain |
| 09:29.11 | Twiun | __andras__: call it a plugin to java virtual machines to allow their GUI capabilities to integrate into Qtopa |
| 09:29.17 | Twiun | s/Qtopa/Qtopia |
| 09:29.46 | lpotter | different OSS :) |
| 09:29.52 | Twiun | __andras__: ahh, yeah, the sharp kernel is one big turd of a hack |
| 09:29.58 | __andras__ | Twiun: sorry i'm being thick i thought oss referred to the sound driver |
| 09:30.25 | lpotter | it does.. sometimes |
| 09:30.36 | __andras__ | Twiun: and i can't really understand why that thing needs a new driver anyway, given that it's an ac97 |
| 09:30.36 | Twiun | __andras__: no worries |
| 09:30.55 | Twiun | I'd never heard of a sound oss driver in relation to TT anyway ;) |
| 09:31.50 | mithro | :) |
| 09:34.03 | lpotter | I have |
| 09:34.51 | Twiun | TT got it outsourced to them? |
| 09:35.46 | lpotter | o. TT outsourced the devel of it |
| 09:35.54 | lpotter | s/no/o |
| 09:36.18 | Twiun | no wonder the work is so crap ;) |
| 09:39.21 | lpotter | :) |
| 09:39.47 | lpotter | which is one reason why they wont release it |
| 09:41.23 | Twiun | no, hang on - I was referring to the mythical TT sound oss driver |
| 09:41.31 | Twiun | I know QtAWT was outsourced |
| 09:42.17 | Twiun | but I have to say that not releasing QtAWT just because it was outsourced is a poor reason - it can't possibly impact their public image |
| 09:42.28 | Twiun | so the other reasons must be more significant |
| 09:42.39 | Twiun | TT doesn't own all the IP rights to it? |
| 09:43.34 | Twiun | bit's of open source soft in it? |
| 09:43.44 | Twiun | s/bit's/bits/ |
| 09:44.01 | Twiun | bit's of _closed source' stuff in it which isn't theirs? |
| 09:44.30 | Twiun | contractual agreement with someone never to release it? |
| 09:44.43 | Twiun | stubborness? |
| 09:45.05 | Twiun | fear that it'll trigger a support flood? |
| 09:48.08 | lpotter | yes, TT ownes the right |
| 09:48.09 | lpotter | s |
| 09:51.45 | mithro | hrm - i've miss placed my stylus |
| 10:00.54 | lpotter | check behind yer ear |
| 10:07.16 | mithro | nope - not there |
| 10:07.29 | mithro | i had it earlier today |
| 10:08.48 | Twiun | doesn't that translate to poor long-term memory too? |
| 10:09.31 | mithro | suprisingly not |
| 10:11.50 | Twiun | must be one of those miracles of nature things |
| 10:15.46 | lpotter | too type of memory in the brain,just like two types of computer memory |
| 10:15.57 | lpotter | s/two/too |
| 10:16.11 | Twiun | granted, but I thought everything had to go through short-term to get into long-term? |
| 10:16.11 | lpotter | he needs new ram |
| 10:16.29 | lpotter | its accessing thats the problem |
| 10:16.54 | Twiun | maybe a new quartz crystal maybe... |
| 10:17.02 | lpotter | maybe they gave him SIMMs when he needed DIMMs |
| 10:17.04 | Twiun | ...maybe...maybe...maybe... |
| 10:17.18 | mithro | whats the best way to find out if opie is started? |
| 10:17.44 | lpotter | look at the screen |
| 10:17.57 | mithro | he he - programatically? |
| 10:18.17 | lpotter | oh.. |
| 10:18.23 | Twiun | messaging? |
| 10:19.20 | Twiun | qcop wasn't it? |
| 10:20.41 | lpotter | ya |
| 10:20.48 | mithro | look for QtEmbedded-0 ? |
| 10:21.10 | lpotter | could check for qpe's pid |
| 10:21.52 | Twiun | best use the same mechanism qpe uses to check for a second instance of itself |
| 10:22.25 | mithro | how does qpe does it? |
| 10:23.40 | Twiun | can't remember ;) it's in QWSServer somewhere |
| 10:35.30 | mithro | Twiun: hows that icon coming along :) |
| 10:35.54 | Twiun | mithro: I can't exactly work on it at work ;) |
| 10:37.30 | mithro | doh! :) |
| 10:38.04 | Twiun | lpotter: seems the root reason I can gather is that bugfixing isn't enough of a benefit for TT to open source QtAWT - need to find some more positive points |
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| 10:41.26 | mithro | a free Java implimentation is a good bargining point - on less person to pay royalties to? |
| 10:41.57 | Twiun | well no - that's not exactly valid ;) |
| 10:42.14 | Twiun | TT can charge royalties to anyone who uses QtAWT with their JVM at the moment |
| 10:42.20 | Twiun | not sure if they do though |
| 10:44.05 | Twiun | It just seems limitting not to keep their QtAWT maintained - the market won't keep using Qtopia in conjunction with Java on mobile phones if it's suffering from bitrot |
| 10:44.08 | lpotter | supposedly qtawt works on 4 different java vm's |
| 10:44.28 | Twiun | yeah, but 'working' is a relative term as well all know |
| 10:44.43 | mithro | Twiun: i mean for people to use QtE/Qtopia |
| 10:44.52 | lpotter | maybe point out specific bugs |
| 10:45.09 | Twiun | sure, let me find genepi's bug page |
| 10:45.39 | Twiun | problem is that doesn't really solve anything - the JVM vendors have to re-release their whole VM to update QtAWT |
| 10:45.51 | Twiun | and Sun still haven't officially released theirs |
| 10:46.36 | mithro | but you could put it in Wonka etc |
| 10:47.20 | Twiun | you're mixing them up ;) Lorn and I are talking TT's QtAWT, you're talking about my Qt/e AWT |
| 10:47.29 | Twiun | lpotter: http://www.alterna.tv/jeodebugs/ |
| 10:47.54 | mithro | o? |
| 10:47.57 | Twiun | lpotter: those are at heart QtAWT bugs |
| 10:48.16 | Twiun | mithro: QtAWT from TT isn't open source (but it's complete enough) |
| 10:48.22 | lpotter | is that insignia bugs? |
| 10:48.35 | Twiun | mithro: Qt/E AWT from me is open source but really incomplete |
| 10:48.55 | Twiun | lpotter: insignia uses(used?) QtAWT |
| 10:49.22 | lpotter | ya, bu are these qtawt bugs? or the java underneath it? |
| 10:49.41 | Twiun | they're bugs in the Java portion of QtAWT |
| 10:49.55 | Twiun | bug 27 for instance definately is |
| 10:50.17 | Twiun | bug 24 also |
| 10:50.38 | Twiun | bugs 21 to 23 as well |
| 10:51.03 | Twiun | I could keep going, but that's not particularly productive |
| 10:51.44 | mithro | ahh so QtE AWT will be working in wonka sometime soon? |
| 10:52.02 | Twiun | mithro: unlikely :( Kaffe probably :) |
| 10:52.34 | Twiun | the Wonka people have chosen to concentrate on other non-gui related development for now |
| 10:52.52 | Twiun | whereas Kaffe has really improved it's gui dev |
| 10:52.53 | mithro | as long as we have an OSS replacement for Jeod :) |
| 10:52.57 | Twiun | exactly |
| 10:53.17 | Twiun | but I don't have a great deal of time to devote to QtE AWT atm |
| 10:53.27 | Twiun | and Kaffe isn't quite ready to receive it in any case |
| 10:56.38 | Twiun | but if you fancy helping with QtE/AWT after you've finished your BC stuff ;) |
| 10:56.59 | Twiun | we can develop it against the blackdown VM for now |
| 10:57.15 | Twiun | the lib's portable |
| 10:59.10 | mithro | i have enough on my place atm |
| 10:59.20 | mithro | and Jeod works fine for me atm :) |
| 11:00.06 | Twiun | bah! look at all that evangelising and then you return to the devil :) |
| 11:00.25 | mithro | :) |
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| 11:01.20 | mithro | o no its a tiny barley detectable version of a Zaurus |
| 11:02.48 | mithro | is there a file for "preremove" in ipkg? |
| 11:03.15 | mithro | http://home.t-online.de/home/sonja.walter/PIMPrint/ |
| 11:03.55 | Twiun | yeah but I'm not sure if it gets called |
| 11:04.01 | mithro | o? |
| 11:04.15 | Twiun | best way to be sure is to test it |
| 11:04.41 | Twiun | there's {pre|post}{install|rm} |
| 11:04.51 | Twiun | but which get called and in what order... |
| 11:05.55 | mithro | ahh you are right |
| 11:15.49 | mithro | the oz-compat is 3.5mb atm |
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| 11:18.23 | lpotter | ouch |
| 11:18.29 | mithro | ouch? |
| 11:18.51 | mithro | in a C7x0 it isn't all that much space |
| 11:19.07 | Twiun | yeah it's only on the older devices |
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| 11:31.55 | mithro | whats the N mean in "ps fax"? |
| 11:34.28 | __andras__ | N stands for nice |
| 11:34.37 | __andras__ | nice level >0 |
| 11:37.55 | mithro | anyone know how to find out in sh if a file points to another one? |
| 11:38.32 | __andras__ | you mean a symlink? |
| 11:38.51 | Twiun | it's one of the test options iirc |
| 11:38.58 | __andras__ | -L or -h |
| 11:39.42 | __andras__ | that doesn't resolve the link though, so it could still point nowhere |
| 11:49.33 | Twiun | mithro: Wonka's LOC graph http://adorphuye.com/~twiun/wonka/statcvs/loc.png |
| 11:49.47 | Twiun | mithro: Kaffe's http://www.kaffe.org/~robilad/loc.png |
| 12:31.26 | Twiun | yeah, Wonka dev is a bit stagnant - they're working on something called Wonka XS (eXtra Speed) in another branch... so no new development, just optimisations |
| 12:39.16 | mithro | optimisation's in java area always good |
| 12:40.42 | Twiun | most of Wonka is native code ;) |
| 12:43.08 | mithro | thats always good |
| 12:43.23 | mithro | sun's java on linux is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO slow |
| 12:52.48 | Twiun | I've never seen that |
| 12:52.56 | Twiun | must be a bad program or a slow machine ;) |
| 12:53.02 | Twiun | btw, easy comparison: http://adorphuye.com/~twiun/LOCs.html |
| 12:55.11 | mithro | even on my athlon 1700 it takes about 30 seconds to load many of suns demos |
| 12:55.42 | mithro | Twiun: well i'm only waiting on your icon and i can release the new version of oz-compat :) |
| 12:55.45 | Twiun | mine take 4 to5 secs max |
| 12:56.01 | Twiun | ok, you'll have to wait another8 hours then :) |
| 12:56.07 | Twiun | it's 1pm here |
| 12:56.10 | Twiun | still at work |
| 12:56.31 | mithro | i have to go to bed now anyway |
| 13:02.10 | mithro | sadly - no it doesn't |
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| 13:08.36 | mithro | it appears an older version works which isn't linked against libsl |
| 13:16.51 | J | Twiun: you in the UK? |
| 13:17.28 | Twiun | J: Yup, in London, you? |
| 13:17.41 | J | Twiun: Nottingham |
| 13:21.31 | Twiun | OZ developer or user? |
| 13:22.20 | J | user atm, still trying to get a dev env working |
| 13:22.23 | J | not much time :( |
| 13:22.42 | Twiun | yeah, I know the feeling |
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| 13:46.50 | Pendalar | hey guys |
| 13:47.02 | Pendalar | when I put my CF into the memory reader, XP corrupts some files |
| 13:47.06 | Pendalar | anyone had that issue? |
| 13:47.22 | Pendalar | on that initial scan it's doing funny stuff |
| 13:47.41 | Twiun | weird, no, never seen that. have you run scandisk on the card? |
| 13:48.27 | Pendalar | I can but I want XP to leave it alone for the most part |
| 13:48.44 | Pendalar | I just formatted it a few minutes ago thinking that would find bad clusters |
| 13:49.46 | Twiun | try running fsck on it - I don't think mkfs does bad sector checking |
| 13:51.21 | Pendalar | see I have a /root/code area which is sync'd with /mnt/legacy/h (my other computer's CF reader drive) |
| 13:51.34 | Pendalar | the sync shows everything is fine, til I take the card out and put it back in |
| 13:52.01 | Pendalar | and at that point XP messes with some files |
| 13:52.17 | Twiun | argh. do you eject the card first? |
| 13:52.29 | Twiun | on XP that is |
| 13:53.15 | Pendalar | never had to before.. I just make sure it's not in use |
| 13:53.22 | Pendalar | I've had the same card for a year |
| 13:53.55 | Twiun | I always eject mine - no problems |
| 13:53.59 | Pendalar | fsck.msdos ? there's no .fat |
| 13:54.09 | Pendalar | vfat == fat32 doesn't it? |
| 13:54.14 | Twiun | should be |
| 13:54.30 | Twiun | maybe an XP update broke their CF stuff |
| 13:54.52 | Pendalar | hmmm the only update I've done is that JET framework crap |
| 13:55.06 | Pendalar | I don't mess with the box that often other than for VNC client purposes |
| 13:55.48 | Twiun | works for me with eject |
| 13:56.09 | Twiun | I've never prended XP was consistent ;) |
| 13:56.11 | Pendalar | scandisk on XP made 2 .chk files |
| 13:56.17 | J | Pendalar: s/JET/NET/ |
| 13:56.21 | J | ? |
| 13:56.25 | Pendalar | no it was JET something |
| 13:56.44 | Pendalar | not sure what the hell it was for, but I got tired of the messages about it |
| 13:57.00 | J | I didn't think JET was a framework, database access... yes, framework, no... |
| 13:57.13 | J | ok |
| 13:57.36 | J | *grin* |
| 13:57.38 | Pendalar | I thought it said framework but I didn't pay much attention |
| 13:58.24 | Pendalar | what's weird is it's changing some files into directories |
| 13:58.37 | Pendalar | when I put the card in.. that makes no sense to me |
| 13:59.16 | Pendalar | hmm I guess it marked those areas as bad sectors |
| 13:59.22 | Pendalar | that sucks, even for 1 yr use |
| 14:00.28 | Pendalar | now it's sync'ing much faster too |
| 14:00.42 | Pendalar | guess it was having problems reading before the point it died |
| 14:01.35 | Pendalar | was taking ~15 secs to sync about 15mb, now takes 2 =-x |
| 14:01.41 | Pendalar | hope all the data is there heh |
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| 14:06.38 | Pendalar | gah now scandisk found 6 more groups of files to make .chk's out of |
| 14:06.41 | Pendalar | dammit =-( |
| 14:08.42 | Pendalar | I know Twiun, but like I said I haven't done that in over a year of use |
| 14:08.48 | Pendalar | and I've never had this problem |
| 14:09.00 | Pendalar | I always make sure it wasn't in use |
| 14:09.02 | Twiun | humour me ;) |
| 14:09.12 | Twiun | and I don't mean eject the hardware |
| 14:09.19 | Twiun | right click the drive icon and select eject |
| 14:09.45 | Pendalar | right.. but if it's got problems 'ejecting' would just prevent future problems in different areas no? |
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| 14:09.54 | Pendalar | ie the damage is done |
| 14:10.03 | Twiun | right, it's not a fix for existing problems |
| 14:10.59 | Pendalar | is it possible that even though it's FAT FS that it's having problems with the linuxisity of some of the files now? |
| 14:11.18 | Pendalar | for the purpose to aggervate me on my days off |
| 14:12.19 | Pendalar | should 'eject' say, do anything visually noticable? |
| 14:12.41 | Pendalar | of course it doesn't physically eject but it didn't close my windows that were viewing the files |
| 14:12.46 | Pendalar | like ejecting a CD does |
| 14:14.11 | Twiun | no, I usually close those before ejecting |
| 14:14.24 | Twiun | and as for linuxisity, there shouldn't be any |
| 14:15.05 | Pendalar | I agree but something isn't happy |
| 14:15.43 | Pendalar | still finds more problems when I put the CF back in and scandisks |
| 14:15.43 | Twiun | granted - but I can't tell you what it is |
| 14:16.31 | Pendalar | it's lexar which I hear is either sandisk or panasonic repackaging, so if it's sandisk I'm not amused nor surprised |
| 14:18.06 | Twiun | aye - can't remember what mine it |
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| 14:28.38 | Pendalar | heh it corrupted /code/zaurus/virus.txt |
| 14:28.40 | Pendalar | the irony.. |
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| 15:32.36 | chouimat | morning |
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| 15:41.34 | mouse | hi2all. Why building of gcc3.3 doesn't generate gcc-lib/3.3/cpp0 and gcc-lib/3.3/tradcpp0? gcc3.2.3 do it. It's normal? |
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| 16:02.52 | noidd | ello |
| 16:02.59 | Twiun | hey noidd |
| 16:03.04 | noidd | how sthings |
| 16:03.05 | noidd | ? |
| 16:03.07 | Twiun | mouse: sorry, no idea |
| 16:03.22 | Twiun | noidd: same old, got a job, changing jobs, you? |
| 16:03.24 | noidd | is buildroot -> oe migration liveish? |
| 16:03.36 | Twiun | well, yes, liveish... |
| 16:03.42 | Twiun | slow, but live |
| 16:03.57 | noidd | i'm trying to build buildroot and the sources are hopelessly out of date for 80% of the packages |
| 16:04.21 | noidd | I'm building a perl/cpan cross-compile to OZ package thingy |
| 16:04.28 | Twiun | yeah, it's going to be painful getting a whole source tree |
| 16:04.32 | noidd | guess I should use oe instead? |
| 16:04.36 | noidd | damn :-/ |
| 16:04.49 | Twiun | yeah, oe should be able to give you packages |
| 16:04.57 | Twiun | can't do images or kernels yet though |
| 16:05.25 | noidd | thats all I need |
| 16:05.34 | noidd | would you ave a copy of the kernel headers handy? |
| 16:05.46 | noidd | increasing the version to 2.4.21 breaks the libc compile :-/ |
| 16:06.12 | Twiun | which version of the kernel headers? |
| 16:06.33 | noidd | erm, |
| 16:06.35 | noidd | one sec |
| 16:07.14 | Twiun | .18, right? |
| 16:07.18 | noidd | yeah |
| 16:07.21 | Twiun | http://adorphuye.com/files |
| 16:07.32 | noidd | last comment was "I'm sick of playing follow the headers" and pointed to treke |
| 16:07.38 | noidd | now treke is dead :-P |
| 16:08.08 | Twiun | mine should be online most of the time... |
| 16:08.28 | Twiun | 16:07:13 up 120 days, 15:50 |
| 16:08.52 | noidd | bingo, thanks |
| 16:08.58 | noidd | I don't have internet access anymore |
| 16:09.06 | noidd | so i'm spending my time doing make sources |
| 16:09.11 | noidd | to try and get all the sources down first |
| 16:09.22 | noidd | its been a real pita to find half the missing stuff |
| 16:09.50 | Twiun | no more net access?? how are you surviving? |
| 16:10.06 | Twiun | let me see if I can stick my sources dir online |
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| 16:11.34 | Twiun | hmmm... only 600mb? that can't be right |
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| 16:12.42 | Twiun | oh well, I'll still copy the stuff over |
| 16:12.59 | noidd | only for the next few hours will I have access |
| 16:13.04 | noidd | thanks a lot |
| 16:13.08 | noidd | that would be much appreciated |
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| 16:20.32 | noidd | now I got the right headers it actually compiles |
| 16:20.40 | noidd | getting the right sources really helps :-0 |
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| 16:21.05 | noidd | I do like that callsign :-0 |
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| 16:26.08 | mouse | did anybody try to compile glibc2.2.6 by gcc3.3.x? |
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| 16:29.20 | Twiun | noidd: ok, sources should be up now |
| 16:29.38 | Twiun | noidd: http://adorphuye.com/files/oz-source-dir/ |
| 16:30.10 | noidd | thanks a lot :-) |
| 16:30.13 | noidd | i'll do the drag now |
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| 18:40.35 | BeTa | anyone can help me to change my screen resolution ? |
| 18:41.12 | BeTa | how can I do it ? I have a 640x480 C700 screen... and I'd like to temporary skip to 320x240 for mplayer :c/ |
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| 18:57.29 | __andras__ | BeTa: what for? what would you gain? |
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| 19:10.17 | BeTa | __andras__: I would gain performances in full screen |
| 19:10.26 | BeTa | when I would be playing vids |
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| 19:15.31 | __andras__ | BeTa: why? does the video hardware scale the image, or does the graphics driver do that? unless it's done in hardware, there's no performance gain |
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| 19:50.59 | hardwire | OZ and usb networking and 2.6 k |
| 19:51.04 | hardwire | series kernel? |
| 19:55.23 | lpotter | is that a question? |
| 19:55.48 | lpotter | I think kergoth had 2.5 semi-working before he updated 2.4.21 |
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| 23:42.05 | ShALLaX | time to apply my screen protectors me thinks |
