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| 00:30.19 | funjon | will the OE buildroot build an image that is reasonably working for a Z5500? |
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| 00:58.05 | Cameron | still gcc-2, but I cleaned out my sources first: |
| 00:58.06 | Cameron | arm-linux-gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -fno-strict-aliasing -fstrict-aliasing -Os -mlittle-endian -mtune=strongarm110 -march=armv4 -Wa-mxscale -fPIC -DUCLIBC_TARGET_PREFIX=\"/\" -DUCLIBC_DEVEL_PREFIX=\""/home/cameron/sources/buildroot-oz/output/staging/target"\" -DUCLIBC_BUILD_DIR=\"/home/cameron/sources/buildroot-oz/build/uClibc-0.9.21\" -fno-builtin -nostdinc -I../../ldso/include -I. -I../../include -I/usr/local/ar |
| 00:58.07 | Cameron | m/2.95.3/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/2.95.3/include -I../libdl -c ldso.c -o ldso.o |
| 00:58.07 | Cameron | cc1: Invalid option `-Wa-mxscale' |
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| 02:56.49 | chouimat | night |
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| 05:21.43 | theoddone33 | ssh comes enabled in OZ by default? |
| 05:21.47 | theoddone33 | this would be 3.2 |
| 05:21.54 | kergoth | yep |
| 05:22.02 | theoddone33 | hey you compiled my kernel |
| 05:23.19 | theoddone33 | here's the next question |
| 05:23.25 | kergoth | yep, i did |
| 05:23.27 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:23.31 | theoddone33 | since I'm in windows, how do I tell what IP the Z took? |
| 05:23.44 | kergoth | took? |
| 05:23.52 | kergoth | usb networking in oz doesnt use dhcp. |
| 05:23.59 | theoddone33 | ok |
| 05:24.00 | kergoth | you set the Z ip in network config |
| 05:24.03 | zakk | it's in the networking information thing |
| 05:24.05 | kergoth | you set hte windows ip in the network properties |
| 05:24.15 | theoddone33 | ahh, I see now |
| 05:24.27 | kergoth | read the syncing faq on openzaurus.org |
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| 05:38.16 | theoddone33 | root password... should be blank shouldn't it? |
| 05:38.33 | kergoth | if you're ftping to port 4242 the pass is rootme regardless |
| 05:38.37 | kergoth | for everything else, yes |
| 05:38.50 | theoddone33 | I'm trying to get ssh over usb going |
| 05:38.55 | theoddone33 | on my linux box |
| 05:39.09 | kergoth | ssh shouldnt prompt for a pass. just drop you in |
| 05:39.15 | theoddone33 | I've concluded that my usb isn't working |
| 05:39.28 | theoddone33 | it pings fine but always returns 0.0ms |
| 05:39.39 | kergoth | you're pinging yourself most likely |
| 05:39.50 | theoddone33 | oh |
| 05:39.51 | kergoth | make sure the desktop is 192.168.129.1 and the Z is 192.168.129.201 |
| 05:39.53 | theoddone33 | my route is screwed up |
| 05:39.58 | kergoth | do _not_ set them to the same ip |
| 05:39.59 | kergoth | ah ok |
| 05:40.00 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:40.31 | theoddone33 | I mean, i guess it is |
| 05:40.42 | theoddone33 | makes sense |
| 05:41.30 | theoddone33 | 192.168.129.201 * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 usb0 |
| 05:41.30 | theoddone33 | 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 05:41.46 | theoddone33 | hm |
| 05:41.48 | kergoth | and thats on which side? |
| 05:41.53 | theoddone33 | desktop |
| 05:42.04 | kergoth | ifconfig usb0 shows what ip? |
| 05:42.17 | theoddone33 | inet addr:192.168.129.1 Bcast:192.168.129.255 Mask:255.255.255.255 |
| 05:42.25 | kergoth | can the Z ping 192.168.129.1? |
| 05:43.03 | theoddone33 | yes |
| 05:43.12 | theoddone33 | averages ~3 ms |
| 05:43.17 | kergoth | good |
| 05:43.30 | kergoth | can you ftp to 192.168.129.201 port 4242 from the desktop? |
| 05:43.33 | kergoth | and if not, what error? |
| 05:44.04 | theoddone33 | looks like I can |
| 05:44.08 | theoddone33 | 220 Qtopia 0.9.3-snapshot FTP Server |
| 05:44.20 | kergoth | well there ya go |
| 05:44.21 | kergoth | life is good |
| 05:44.28 | kergoth | try ssh, see how it behaves |
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| 05:46.32 | theoddone33 | oh |
| 05:46.41 | theoddone33 | $ ssh -l root 192.168.129.201 |
| 05:46.42 | theoddone33 | ssh: connect to host 192.168.129.201 port 22: No route to host |
| 05:47.04 | kergoth | heh, wrong side? |
| 05:47.12 | theoddone33 | I guess I'm confused |
| 05:47.40 | theoddone33 | usb0 is 192.168.129.1 |
| 05:47.50 | theoddone33 | so why did it work when I ftp'd into .201 |
| 05:47.58 | kergoth | huh? |
| 05:48.07 | kergoth | the _zaurus_ is 192.168.129.201 on its usb interface |
| 05:48.15 | kergoth | the _desktop_ is 192.168.129.1 on _its_ usb interface |
| 05:48.42 | theoddone33 | confusing |
| 05:48.48 | kergoth | how? |
| 05:48.52 | kergoth | the usb cable is a network. |
| 05:48.52 | theoddone33 | on the zaurus, when I want to get to the desktop I use .1 |
| 05:48.55 | kergoth | with only two people on it |
| 05:49.01 | theoddone33 | on the desktop, when I want to get to the zaurus, I use .201? |
| 05:49.04 | kergoth | yes. |
| 05:49.14 | theoddone33 | I see |
| 05:49.16 | kergoth | its identical to any network |
| 05:49.21 | kergoth | a lan, two machiens on a hub |
| 05:49.28 | theoddone33 | ifconfig was throwing me off |
| 05:49.32 | kergoth | these just happen to use a usb cable |
| 05:49.36 | theoddone33 | I thought .1 was the zaurus |
| 05:49.43 | theoddone33 | and my /etc/hosts reflected that |
| 05:50.51 | theoddone33 | ok here's the root of the problem I guess |
| 05:51.04 | theoddone33 | now that I'm trying to ping the correct IP, I can't ping it |
| 05:51.08 | kergoth | ? |
| 05:51.14 | kergoth | you just ftped into it a second ago |
| 05:51.18 | theoddone33 | yes |
| 05:51.21 | kergoth | what, were you ftping into the zaursu from the zaurus? |
| 05:51.26 | kergoth | or what? |
| 05:51.28 | theoddone33 | nope |
| 05:51.32 | kergoth | .. |
| 05:51.35 | kergoth | you're doing something wrong. |
| 05:51.39 | theoddone33 | I don't know what changed, now it won't ftp either |
| 05:51.59 | kergoth | could be the connection dropped. does ifconfig still show the interface on both sides? |
| 05:52.35 | theoddone33 | my zaurus... locked up |
| 05:52.37 | theoddone33 | somehow |
| 05:53.02 | kergoth | odd |
| 05:53.10 | theoddone33 | yes |
| 05:53.17 | theoddone33 | I imagine I have to flip the battery switch for that |
| 06:00.43 | theoddone33 | well now neither one can ping the other |
| 06:01.12 | theoddone33 | network config on the Z says it's registered to .201, ifconfig on the desktop says .1 |
| 06:05.59 | theoddone33 | "ensure Z is fully in cradle" I'm not normally as stupid as I am tonight :( |
| 06:09.14 | vvff | My Z actually locks up like that semi-regularly, for some reason. ;-) |
| 06:09.38 | theoddone33 | something is odd |
| 06:09.43 | theoddone33 | I can occasionally get pings of 2000 |
| 06:09.47 | theoddone33 | then sometimes 3.4 |
| 06:09.49 | theoddone33 | etc |
| 06:09.57 | theoddone33 | then sometimes not at all |
| 06:10.51 | theoddone33 | linux always detects the usb connection though |
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| 06:40.26 | theoddone33 | ok new kernel |
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| 06:48.14 | theoddone33 | I managed to get a file transferred |
| 06:55.58 | theoddone33 | my desktop locked up pretty nicely though |
| 06:58.20 | theoddone33 | is there a way to refresh your documents tab? |
| 06:58.26 | theoddone33 | I'm not sure of the correct way to get stuff out of there |
| 07:55.26 | funjon | hmm, now i'm getting a "libtool: no such file or directory" error |
| 07:55.37 | funjon | building libgcrypt |
| 07:56.04 | kergoth | build libtool-cross, autoconf-native, and automake-native first |
| 07:56.06 | kergoth | then build it |
| 07:56.31 | funjon | oh. heh. |
| 07:56.41 | funjon | er. how? |
| 07:56.47 | kergoth | ? |
| 07:56.51 | kergoth | oebuild libtool/libtool-cross_1.5.oe |
| 07:57.02 | kergoth | etc |
| 07:59.16 | funjon | oh. i've been working off the oz buildroot. |
| 07:59.22 | kergoth | ahh |
| 07:59.28 | kergoth | then go into host build tools |
| 07:59.31 | kergoth | should be able to enable them there |
| 07:59.33 | funjon | i did. |
| 07:59.34 | funjon | hrm. |
| 07:59.39 | kergoth | hmm, odd |
| 07:59.47 | kergoth | havent touched buildroot in some time, not sure offhand |
| 07:59.56 | funjon | maybe i should grab the oe buildroot |
| 08:07.52 | funjon | should i be using gcc 2.95.3 or 3.3? |
| 08:16.32 | funjon | checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables |
| 08:16.35 | funjon | erg. |
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| 10:37.10 | narowmind | sup |
| 10:42.36 | narowmind | any one else notice that qpdf in the stable feed isnt? |
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| 11:19.05 | lama | hello |
| 11:19.28 | lama | i need some help ... |
| 11:20.34 | lama | i accidentally formated my sd-card like mkfs.ext2 /dev/mmcda .... instead of mmcda1 |
| 11:20.56 | lama | and now i cant change it back |
| 11:26.28 | lama | and if i want to look at the partition table of the sd card it says bus error |
| 11:28.32 | lama | anyone here? |
| 11:30.02 | Twiun | yes, but I've never had to recover from such a problem :( |
| 11:30.13 | lama | :( |
| 11:30.15 | Twiun | you may have more luck asking later, when the US guys wake up |
| 11:30.23 | lama | ok |
| 11:30.30 | Twiun | or using the mailing list as well |
| 11:30.41 | lama | where? |
| 11:31.55 | lama | the opie users mailing list? |
| 11:32.56 | Twiun | no, this isn't an opie issue, now is it? |
| 11:33.09 | lama | i dont think so |
| 11:33.12 | Twiun | no, try the openzaurus-users mailing list |
| 11:33.35 | lama | ah ... found it |
| 11:33.43 | lama | thx |
| 11:34.03 | lpotter | but he knwos opie users are smart |
| 11:34.30 | lama | huh? |
| 11:37.38 | Twiun | eh? |
| 11:41.23 | lpotter | knows |
| 11:41.25 | lpotter | heh |
| 11:41.33 | lama | but who? |
| 11:41.47 | lpotter | you |
| 11:42.13 | lama | :) |
| 11:43.11 | lama | u mean i should write to opie users mailing list instead of oz users mailinglist coz they r smarter? |
| 11:44.08 | lama | Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender <-- oz users mailing list |
| 11:47.57 | Twiun | which email address did you try? |
| 11:48.21 | Twiun | this one should be working: openzaurus-users@lists.sourceforge.net |
| 11:49.23 | lama | openzaurus-users-request@lists.sourceforge.net <-- i have to register for the mailing list first with this address |
| 11:50.39 | Twiun | hmmm, weird. maybe sf's got problems (it wouldn't be the first time) |
| 11:50.53 | lama | hehe |
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| 11:54.02 | Twiun | oh well, try later ;) |
| 11:54.21 | narowmind | huh |
| 11:54.39 | lama | ok |
| 11:55.32 | narowmind | any else notice that qpdf on the openzaurus stablefeed isnt stable.. segs |
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| 11:56.53 | lama | it worked when i wrote the subscripting request from another account... strange |
| 11:57.47 | Twiun | narowmind: all I can say is wait for the imminent 3.3.5 release which will come with appropriate feed |
| 12:03.47 | lama | i ll bbl |
| 12:04.01 | lama | cya ... and thx Twiun |
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| 12:07.31 | Twiun | howdy mithro |
| 12:08.09 | lama | do i have to send a mail to the mailinglist from the mail address the other mails are sent to? |
| 12:08.46 | mithro | hey Twiun |
| 12:11.58 | Twiun | which other mails? the registration ones? |
| 12:12.26 | lama | the mails i get from the mailing list |
| 12:15.37 | Twiun | yes, you can just hit "reply to list" usually (depending on your mailer) |
| 12:18.59 | lama | no i just wanted to know if i _have_to_ use the address for sending mails to the list (i mean the address i submitted on subscribing to the list) |
| 12:19.18 | lama | well its difficult to explain :) |
| 12:21.25 | Twiun | if you used me@home.com to register, then you have to send from me@home.com for the list to accept emails from you |
| 12:21.45 | lama | ah right |
| 12:22.10 | Twiun | makes sense really, it's the only thing the list knows about you to guarantee you've registered |
| 12:22.41 | chouimat | morning |
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| 12:24.28 | Twiun | howdy chouimat, bisho |
| 12:29.44 | lama | Twiun: u were wrong ... i already sent the mail before asking... and it arrived on the mailinglist |
| 12:31.42 | Twiun | lama: oh well, that's probably why the list gets the occasional spam :) |
| 12:31.54 | Twiun | lama: it _should_ filter out unregistered addresses |
| 12:32.24 | lama | lol |
| 12:33.31 | lama | so i really gtg now |
| 12:33.36 | lama | cya later |
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| 13:35.54 | pyromance | Crap |
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| 13:36.36 | Twiun | eh? |
| 13:39.59 | pyromance | I hate my client ;) |
| 13:40.31 | Twiun | ahh, what are you using? |
| 13:41.20 | mickeyl | anyone using familiar 0.7.2 ? |
| 13:41.27 | mickeyl | is libstdc++ included per default? |
| 13:43.32 | mickeyl | no need to apologize... i just want to kill the bogus libstdc++ dependency for opieplayer2 which generates lots of useless traffic on our mailing lists and forums and which we only carry for the familiar folks |
| 13:44.01 | pyromance | OpiePlayer2 had so much potential. (sigh) |
| 13:44.08 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 13:44.12 | pyromance | You read my "whining" about MP3 software long ago, right? |
| 13:44.18 | mickeyl | i think so, yeah |
| 13:44.52 | pyromance | http://www.zaurus.com/dev/board/index.php?showtopic=4805&hl=tkcplayer+wishful |
| 13:45.05 | pyromance | http://www.zaurus.com/dev/board/index.php?showtopic=4805 better |
| 13:45.07 | mickeyl | well, the code is their... eventually maybe someone resumes work on it |
| 13:45.35 | mickeyl | s/their/there |
| 13:45.58 | mickeyl | hmmm |
| 13:45.59 | pyromance | (nod) time for me to get off my fat systems-admin butt and learn how to be a programmer, huh? ;) |
| 13:46.00 | mickeyl | tkcplayer looks nice |
| 13:46.05 | mickeyl | right :D |
| 13:46.20 | pyromance | tkcPlayer is pretty, but it's half broken on OZ |
| 13:46.37 | pyromance | Volume control doesn't work. Probably because of how OZ handles the speaker vs. buzzer |
| 13:46.45 | mickeyl | pyromance: btw., you really have a taste for design and usability, do you know that? |
| 13:47.04 | mickeyl | no need to become a programmer - just try to get your ideas realized |
| 13:47.07 | pyromance | Thanks ... I've been a "user" all my computing life. ;) hehe |
| 13:47.08 | mickeyl | by cooperating with programmers |
| 13:47.38 | mickeyl | (if there were any left :D |
| 13:47.56 | pyromance | Of course. However, the balance between "helpful suggestion" and "nagging the programmer" varies from project to project. It's hard to keep on the right side of it |
| 13:48.19 | mickeyl | true that |
| 13:48.32 | Twiun | I personally don't mind being nagged - as long as the nagging stops if I say 'enough, I know.' |
| 13:48.47 | Twiun | beyond that I see red ;) |
| 13:49.11 | pyromance | One of my ideas is very close to realization ... the Kismet and gpsd back-end to zRoadmap to put sprites on for hot spots. |
| 13:49.30 | pyromance | The code was done, but it's not compiled or distributed anywhere. |
| 13:49.33 | mickeyl | i have been also _kind of_ working on your suggestion |
| 13:49.41 | mickeyl | i cooperate with the qpegps folks |
| 13:49.52 | pyromance | Well you told me your plans for Wellenreiter. That sounds damn cool. |
| 13:49.55 | mickeyl | we have defined an API to exchange interest points from Wellenreiter to qpegps |
| 13:51.57 | pyromance | ] |
| 13:52.01 | pyromance | Mental note. Don't IRC with rdesktop in a background process in the same shell |
| 13:52.01 | mickeyl | they are already working on displaying them |
| 13:52.44 | pyromance | Neat. I am still having difficulty getting maps into qpegps |
| 13:53.07 | mickeyl | one of these days I'll hack a bit more on qpegps |
| 13:53.16 | mickeyl | no idea when this day will come though :D |
| 13:53.45 | pyromance | qpegps is much better organized than zRoadmap, but sadly does not have the map database zRoadmap does. |
| 13:54.03 | pyromance | To use Tiger maps in qpegps would be good. I could torch zRoadmap entirely. |
| 13:54.24 | mickeyl | the qpegps folks are pretty open minded |
| 13:54.28 | pyromance | But hey... now that I have ALL my hardware working again, I'm available to beta anything. root@pyromance.com |
| 13:54.36 | mickeyl | if we tell them, they maybe integrate that |
| 13:54.49 | mickeyl | you have a serial GPS connected to your Z? |
| 13:55.03 | pyromance | Yep. the Digitraveler and sphelan's custom cable. |
| 13:55.48 | pyromance | Apparently at least a dozen other Z users have the same rig. Scott listed it at the bottom of: http://www.fivestarassoc.com/Z/ |
| 13:55.50 | mickeyl | hmm... nice. gonna prepare a Wellenreiter II release next month. I added gathering data from gps but i don't have the hardware to test |
| 13:56.43 | pyromance | You don't? Hmm ... The Digitraveler was on clearance at Radio Shack for $30, and Scott custom made the cables for $20 ... so $50 later I got a working portable serial GPS |
| 13:58.23 | pyromance | If you want one and can't find them locally, I'll hunt radio shacks out here and see what I can find. Radio Shacks dot Phoenix all over. |
| 13:58.25 | pyromance | BRB: break |
| 14:07.18 | pyromance | back |
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| 14:21.07 | Shdwdrgn | I picked up one of the digitravelers, but haven't gotten a cable yet... been meaning to get one of the connectors |
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| 14:41.08 | pyromance | Trust me ... it's much easier to have sphelan make the cable for you |
| 14:41.14 | pyromance | The connectors are TINY |
| 14:41.45 | pyromance | http://pyromaniac.net/zbox/zaurusport.jpg |
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| 17:55.19 | lama | i need some help with formating of my sd card.... i accidentally formated it with mkfs.ext2 /dev/mmcda instead of mmcda1...how can i format mmcda1 again? |
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| 17:57.33 | Twiun | lama: did you not get the replies on the mailing list? |
| 17:59.56 | lama | well i did |
| 18:00.32 | lama | they told me that i should do: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mmcda |
| 18:01.17 | lama | but it my z tells me after about 10 min that there is no space left on mmcda |
| 18:01.17 | kergoth | lama: so you inadvertantly killed your partition table. |
| 18:01.23 | kergoth | thats good |
| 18:01.25 | kergoth | it should do that |
| 18:01.28 | kergoth | then fdisk /dev/mmcda |
| 18:01.32 | kergoth | create one partition, save & quit |
| 18:01.36 | kergoth | then your table is back |
| 18:01.39 | kergoth | then mkfs.ext2 mmcda1 |
| 18:02.08 | lama | when i do fdisk and then enter p for print partition table it says: bus error |
| 18:02.52 | kergoth | the fdisk in 3.2 is busted. grab the one off zsi |
| 18:03.07 | lama | zsi? |
| 18:03.20 | kergoth | the definitive zaurus software site. |
| 18:03.23 | kergoth | killefiz.de/zaurus |
| 18:03.30 | lama | ah right :) |
| 18:03.34 | lama | ok thx |
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| 19:07.32 | heatsink | hello anyone here? |
| 19:08.11 | heatsink | i'm attempting to cross complie drivers for a bluez driver that doesn't get distributed with the project for the Z |
| 19:08.41 | heatsink | and the dependancies are in the kernel |
| 19:08.57 | heatsink | how should/would/could I get this thing to complie? |
| 19:09.20 | kergoth | ? |
| 19:09.28 | kergoth | thats completely dependent on the bulidsystem of what you're trying to build. |
| 19:09.43 | heatsink | it's just a makefile |
| 19:10.27 | kergoth | read it. |
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| 19:10.38 | kergoth | you're going to have to tell it the path to the Z kernel sources |
| 19:10.46 | heatsink | k |
| 19:10.55 | heatsink | one sec.. |
| 19:10.58 | kergoth | and how you do that is dependent on the buildsystem in question |
| 19:12.17 | heatsink | kergoth, is there a how to somewhere on what I want to do? |
| 19:12.24 | kergoth | .. |
| 19:12.26 | kergoth | you're not listening. |
| 19:12.35 | heatsink | I am |
| 19:12.37 | kergoth | such a howto wouldnlt tell you how to build bluez drivers |
| 19:12.44 | heatsink | okay... |
| 19:12.49 | kergoth | because its completely dependent on how you provide the information to _this_ buildsystem |
| 19:12.52 | heatsink | well it's not included in the bluez drivers |
| 19:12.53 | kergoth | which is different than others. |
| 19:13.01 | kergoth | my point still applies |
| 19:13.11 | heatsink | when you say _this_ you mean openembedded? |
| 19:13.34 | kergoth | the buildsystem of what you're BUILDING |
| 19:13.40 | kergoth | is what matters. |
| 19:13.44 | heatsink | I agree |
| 19:13.49 | heatsink | hence my confusion |
| 19:14.07 | heatsink | it should be as simple as that.. |
| 19:14.21 | heatsink | but then the question of...where do I get the source and all of that for the kernel? |
| 19:14.25 | heatsink | can I just use any old kernel? |
| 19:14.31 | heatsink | i mean from kernel.org? |
| 19:14.56 | kergoth | you need a zaurus kernel |
| 19:15.00 | kergoth | the _exact_ kernel on your Z |
| 19:15.03 | kergoth | no differences. |
| 19:15.04 | kergoth | at all. |
| 19:15.44 | heatsink | perhaps installing that small complier on a compact flash |
| 19:15.48 | heatsink | might remedy |
| 19:15.51 | heatsink | this... |
| 19:16.06 | heatsink | it is simply only one file |
| 19:16.26 | heatsink | but |
| 19:16.35 | heatsink | if I'm missing a library or headers |
| 19:16.37 | heatsink | i'm hosed |
| 19:20.36 | kergoth | well, for oz, we use buildroot to bulid the kernels, so go ahead and use that to just build the kernel |
| 19:20.47 | kergoth | unless you're trying to add this to OE, rather than just building it yourself |
| 19:36.49 | heatsink | well |
| 19:36.55 | heatsink | first i'd like to build it myself |
| 19:37.03 | heatsink | then hopefully add to OE |
| 19:37.14 | kergoth | well OE doesnt havfe any kernels in it atm |
| 19:37.18 | kergoth | so that has to happen first |
| 19:37.41 | heatsink | k |
| 19:38.55 | Pendalar | a kernel is a beautiful and elusive thing |
| 19:38.57 | heatsink | well I think I meant....OZ |
| 19:38.58 | heatsink | hahaa |
| 19:40.29 | Pendalar | hm mozilla firebird is asking me what application to open a .html document with |
| 19:40.47 | Pendalar | I'm generally pretty stupid about a lot of things.. but .. |
| 19:41.48 | hardwire | I agree |
| 19:42.35 | Pendalar | =-p be nice |
| 19:42.56 | Pendalar | at least I'm not talking while marked /away |
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| 19:49.29 | Pendalar | ;-) |
| 19:50.30 | Pendalar | anyone try the "ZGCC 2.0" ? |
| 19:57.54 | heatsink | as of right now buildroot works right? |
| 20:32.10 | lama | i tried to install keyz-zkb on my z ... but it said "error: keyz-zkb.postinst return 1 ..." .... and if i try to install anything else i get the same error every time :( |
| 20:32.21 | kergoth | postinst failure is not package install failure. |
| 20:32.26 | kergoth | preinst failure is. |
| 20:32.48 | lama | hmm |
| 20:33.24 | lama | do i have to grab the latest apqkg then? |
| 20:33.31 | kergoth | .. |
| 20:33.34 | kergoth | aqpkg just runs ipkg. |
| 20:33.38 | lama | or ipkg |
| 20:33.44 | kergoth | ipkg isnt the problem |
| 20:33.57 | kergoth | the script is failing. |
| 20:33.57 | kergoth | read the script |
| 20:33.57 | kergoth | its in /usr/lib/ipkg/ |
| 20:34.03 | kergoth | keyz-zkb.postinst is out there |
| 20:34.07 | lama | ok |
| 20:34.09 | kergoth | see if you can determine what line is afiling |
| 20:34.15 | kergoth | try running it line by line at the commandlien yourself |
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| 20:38.31 | lama | "cp: /opt/Qtopia/lib/zkb/zkb.xml.sample: no such file or directory |
| 20:38.37 | lama | " |
| 20:40.12 | kergoth`food | probably installed to a place other than root, and its postinst doesnt know how to handle that |
| 20:41.18 | tanq_ | hey do you know if airfart has been ported to the zaurus |
| 20:41.27 | tanq_ | http://airfart.sourceforge.net/ |
| 20:41.28 | lama | well i installed it to root... but maybe it has some problems coz i moved /opt to my sd card |
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| 20:43.58 | lama | ah i found the file somewhere else |
| 20:46.32 | lama | its working again :) |
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| 21:03.50 | heatsink | how much space do I have to have available on my harddrive to complie OZ? |
| 21:08.26 | heatsink | is treke.net down? |
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| 21:12.52 | Pendalar | tanq_: where is the port? |
| 21:14.41 | heatsink | tanq_, ? |
| 21:14.44 | heatsink | opps |
| 21:14.51 | heatsink | Pendalar, am I missing something or is treke.net down? |
| 21:15.31 | tanq_ | Pendalar: i asked if it had been ported |
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| 21:16.43 | Cameron | hi, hergoth |
| 21:16.52 | Cameron | * kergoth |
| 21:17.00 | kergoth | hey |
| 21:17.11 | Cameron | I'm still getting compiler errors :( |
| 21:17.17 | kergoth | paste them |
| 21:17.22 | Pendalar | tanq_: sorry I just glanced |
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| 21:17.41 | Pendalar | apparently treke.net is indeed down heatsink |
| 21:17.41 | Cameron | Ok. Let me revert the source back to the unedited version because I tried to fix it |
| 21:18.00 | heatsink | thanks |
| 21:18.22 | Cameron | yup; I found that out yesterday :( |
| 21:18.54 | heatsink | I didn't see that I should've asked that question in openembedded |
| 21:19.03 | heatsink | my apologies to the channel |
| 21:19.52 | Pendalar | this channel is a lot less topicized than OE |
| 21:20.05 | kergoth | topicized? |
| 21:20.14 | Pendalar | we get bored.. doubt anyone will complain, unless you put kergoth: in front of it |
| 21:20.16 | Pendalar | then oooooh boy |
| 21:20.27 | Pendalar | kergoth: dammit it could be a word *grin* |
| 21:20.37 | Pendalar | I mad cheat in scrabble |
| 21:20.37 | kergoth | heh, #openembedded is almost never on topic |
| 21:20.50 | W8TVI | kergoth: topic? whats a topic? |
| 21:20.54 | Pendalar | well it's often about coding/compiling/the project |
| 21:20.58 | Cameron | heh |
| 21:21.00 | Pendalar | here is like... hmm so what did you do today? |
| 21:21.13 | kergoth | here is support questions, there is developer stuff |
| 21:21.18 | kergoth | both go offtopic on a regular basis |
| 21:21.40 | Cameron | make[2]: Entering directory `/home/cameron/sources/buildroot-oz.shakey/build/linux' |
| 21:21.40 | Cameron | scripts/split-include include/linux/autoconf.h include/config |
| 21:21.40 | Cameron | arm-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/home/cameron/sources/buildroot-oz.shakey/build/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -Os -mapcs -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -fno-common -pipe -mapcs-32 -march=armv4 -Wa,-mcpu=xscale -mtune=strongarm -mshort-load-bytes -msoft-float -DKBUILD_BASENAME=main -c -o init/main.o init/main.c |
| 21:21.40 | Cameron | Assembler messages: |
| 21:21.41 | Cameron | Error: Invalid processor variant -mcpu=xscale |
| 21:21.43 | Cameron | init/main.c:273: output pipe has been closed |
| 21:21.45 | Cameron | cpp0: output pipe has been closed |
| 21:21.50 | Pendalar | nevermind gb2 just killed my point |
| 21:22.24 | kergoth | Pendalar: hehe |
| 21:22.37 | Pendalar | I had a point before then, promise |
| 21:22.38 | kergoth | Cameron: old binutils. tried with a gcc3 chain? |
| 21:22.44 | Cameron | I messed with the -Wa,... part, kergoth, but it only yielded a different error |
| 21:23.11 | Cameron | kergoth: nope. The gcc3 would really fix that error? sounded more like a command syntax prob or something |
| 21:23.34 | Cameron | sure, I'll try it |
| 21:23.52 | kergoth | Cameron: gcc2 doesnt support xscale optimization |
| 21:23.56 | kergoth | so that could by why |
| 21:24.01 | Cameron | ahah |
| 21:24.04 | kergoth | -Wa means pass what follows to the assembler |
| 21:24.08 | kergoth | -Wl is the linker |
| 21:24.08 | kergoth | iirc |
| 21:24.17 | Cameron | so then I could just remove the -Wa and it might work, right? |
| 21:24.36 | kergoth | theoretically |
| 21:24.50 | Cameron | I shall try that while I attempt to compile with gcc3 @ the same time :) |
| 21:24.58 | kergoth | good plan |
| 21:27.01 | heatsink | where can I pick up the gcc3 cross complier? |
| 21:27.24 | kergoth | .. |
| 21:27.26 | kergoth | ibot: oz toolchain |
| 21:27.27 | | hmm... oz toolchain is http://www.openzaurus.org/official/toolchain/, or mkdir /usr/local/arm and extract them in there. |
| 21:27.33 | kergoth | there |
| 21:31.05 | Cameron | checking for gcc... arm-linux-gcc |
| 21:31.05 | Cameron | checking whether the C compiler (arm-linux-gcc -I/home/cameron/sources/buildroot-oz/output/staging/include -I/home/cameron/sources/buildroot-oz/output/staging/usr/X11R6/include -I/home/cameron/sources/buildroot-oz/output/staging/target/include -fexpensive-optimizations -fomit-frame-pointer -O2 -march=armv4 -mtune=xscale -mapcs-32 -L/home/cameron/sources/buildroot-oz/output/staging/target/lib -L/home/cameron/sources/buildroot-oz/output/st |
| 21:31.05 | Cameron | aging/usr/X11R6/lib -Wl,-rpath-link,/home/cameron/sources/buildroot-oz/output/staging/target/lib -Wl,-rpath-link,/home/cameron/sources/buildroot-oz/output/staging/usr/X11R6/lib) works... no |
| 21:31.06 | Cameron | configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables. |
| 21:31.08 | Cameron | make[2]: Entering directory `/home/cameron/sources/buildroot-oz/build/modutils-2.4.6' |
| 21:31.17 | Cameron | new error under gcc3 when doing modutils |
| 21:31.51 | kergoth | did you set gccver in the build options properly? |
| 21:31.56 | kergoth | er tell it you want 3, not 2 |
| 21:32.08 | Cameron | right. I thought I set the version to 3.3 correctly... |
| 21:32.12 | Cameron | I'll check though |
| 21:32.25 | kergoth | hmm |
| 21:32.31 | Cameron | yup |
| 21:32.39 | Cameron | Gcc3 toolchain available for use CHECK |
| 21:32.47 | kergoth | hmm |
| 21:32.49 | Cameron | 3.3 = version of ...gcc3 toolchain |
| 21:32.52 | kergoth | ls /usr/local/arm/3.3/bin/arm-linux-gcc |
| 21:32.56 | kergoth | thats there, right? |
| 21:33.36 | Cameron | ls /usr/local/arm/3.3/bin/arm-linux-gcc |
| 21:33.36 | Cameron | /usr/local/arm/3.3/bin/arm-linux-gcc |
| 21:33.41 | kergoth | odd. |
| 21:33.47 | kergoth | cat build/modutils-2.4.6/config.log|less |
| 21:33.55 | kergoth | find where its doing that check |
| 21:34.03 | kergoth | see if theres any more useful info about why it failed |
| 21:34.04 | heatsink | oh cool.. |
| 21:34.22 | heatsink | kergoth, what is your system you use for buildroot like? |
| 21:34.32 | kergoth | i have a few |
| 21:34.39 | heatsink | kergoth, i mean like distro, which tool chain |
| 21:34.50 | kergoth | toolchains, i use the ones on oz .org |
| 21:34.51 | heatsink | kergoth, which kernel are you running |
| 21:34.53 | kergoth | since i built them. |
| 21:34.58 | kergoth | kernel is irrelevent, but i use 2.4.22-ck1 |
| 21:35.07 | kergoth | laptop i do most of my building on is a heavily hacked rh73 box |
| 21:35.15 | kergoth | though i occasionally test builds on my winxp box under cygwin |
| 21:35.53 | Cameron | configure:986: checking for gcc...{really long series of paths + compiler options} |
| 21:36.17 | Cameron | /usr/local/arm/3.3/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/3.3.1/../../../../arm-linux/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x24):../sysdeps/arm/elf/st |
| 21:36.17 | Cameron | art.S:74: undefined reference to `__libc_start_main' |
| 21:36.28 | Cameron | /usr/local/arm/3.3/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/3.3.1/../../../../arm-linux/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x2c):../sysdeps/arm/elf/st |
| 21:36.28 | Cameron | art.S:77: undefined reference to `__libc_csu_fini' |
| 21:36.34 | kergoth | um, something is messed up wtih that toolchian |
| 21:36.45 | Cameron | hmm...alright |
| 21:36.47 | kergoth | try removing it, redownloading the tarball, and reextracting it there |
| 21:36.50 | Cameron | ok |
| 21:36.51 | Cameron | will do |
| 21:38.09 | Cameron | cross-3.3.1.tar.bz2, Sept 16, no? |
| 21:38.31 | kergoth | yep |
| 21:38.39 | Cameron | ok. here goes again |
| 21:39.08 | Pendalar | heh my GCC version is 3.2.2 |
| 21:39.56 | Cameron | but you ain't "official" ;-), Pendalar |
| 21:40.14 | Cameron | under gcc2 again, kergoth: arm-linux-gcc -D__ASSEMBLY__ -D__KERNEL__ -I/home/cameron/sources/buildroot-oz.shakey/build/linux/include -mapcs-32 -march=armv4 -msoft-float -c -o proc-xscale.o proc-xscale.S |
| 21:40.14 | Cameron | proc-xscale.S: Assembler messages: |
| 21:40.14 | Cameron | proc-xscale.S:882: Error: bad instruction ':strd r2,[r0],#8' |
| 21:40.32 | Cameron | I'll assume that's optimizer instructions it gcc2 doesen't understand again? |
| 21:40.40 | Cameron | and no easy way to fix this time, right? |
| 21:40.48 | kergoth | looks that way |
| 21:41.13 | Cameron | K. A gcc3 kernel will still run gcc2-compiled progs though, right? |
| 21:41.20 | kergoth | yep |
| 21:41.28 | Cameron | any real disadvantages to a gcc3 kernel except that it's less tested? |
| 21:41.34 | kergoth | nope |
| 21:41.44 | kergoth | in fact, our 2.4.21 oz tree for collie |
| 21:41.49 | kergoth | only builds under 3.x, not 2.95.x |
| 21:41.51 | kergoth | heeh |
| 21:42.01 | heatsink | how can I get a hold of the 2.4.21 tree? |
| 21:42.10 | heatsink | hook a brotha up |
| 21:42.21 | kergoth | its not really ready for public consumption, has some quirks, and different interfaces so opie isnt happy |
| 21:42.25 | kergoth | but if you want to play around |
| 21:42.27 | kergoth | linux-cl.bkbits.net |
| 21:45.44 | Cameron | re-untarring, kergoth. |
| 21:45.58 | Cameron | kergoth: what's the command to only compile modutils? something with SUBDIRS=, no? |
| 21:46.14 | kergoth | make SUBDIRS=packages/modutils |
| 21:46.16 | kergoth | read doc/BUILD iirc |
| 21:46.18 | kergoth | er docs |
| 21:46.19 | Cameron | ahh, thanks |
| 21:48.03 | Cameron | configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables. |
| 21:48.04 | Cameron | same error |
| 21:48.17 | kergoth | odd |
| 21:48.24 | kergoth | i've not had any trouble building all of buildroot with gcc3 |
| 21:48.31 | kergoth | with the possible exception of the collie kernel n stuff |
| 21:49.07 | Cameron | just today's luck, eh? |
| 21:49.14 | kergoth | could be |
| 21:49.51 | Cameron | any suggestions for how to fix? |
| 21:50.05 | Cameron | because it looks like I have NO way to compile any kernel |
| 21:50.17 | kergoth | hmm, not offhand.. |
| 21:50.21 | kergoth | busy at work |
| 21:50.27 | Cameron | alright |
| 21:50.34 | Pendalar | psst hand him money, he likes that |
| 21:50.42 | Cameron | lol |
| 21:51.04 | Pendalar | guess I get to update GCC |
| 21:53.18 | Cameron | :) |
| 21:53.19 | Pendalar | 3.3.2 I guess hm |
| 21:53.25 | Pendalar | just cause I'm lazy |
| 21:53.31 | kergoth | i should fix the build of glibc toolchains with OE |
| 21:53.42 | kergoth | and build a 3.3.2 arm chain |
| 21:53.54 | Cameron | please :) |
| 21:54.10 | Pendalar | 3.3.1 wasn't very supported imho |
| 21:54.13 | kergoth | cosmicpenguin's been pestering me for it for like 2 week |
| 21:54.24 | Cameron | then maybe I'll actually be able to compile a working kernel |
| 21:54.29 | Pendalar | if yer gonna do it hop to it before I set up yet another cross compiler =-x |
| 21:54.46 | kergoth | i wonder if the cygwin -> arm-linux toolchain building works |
| 21:54.49 | kergoth | with oe |
| 21:55.53 | Pendalar | cygwin really a necessary step =-x |
| 21:56.19 | kergoth | some users will want to run it from a windows machine. even i've done it on occasion just because i can |
| 21:56.23 | kergoth | heheh |
| 21:56.34 | Pendalar | I can but kinda.. horrid |
| 21:56.59 | kergoth | switch explorer to blackbox and use cygwin heavily and its almost a sane experience |
| 21:57.03 | kergoth | :) |
| 21:57.16 | Pendalar | do you need a shell man? *grin* |
| 21:57.22 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:57.34 | Pendalar | I can't imagine having to live like that |
| 21:57.35 | kergoth | there ya go, make cygwin bash your explorer |
| 21:57.47 | kergoth | thatd be .. interesting |
| 21:58.11 | Pendalar | they should make matrix 4 and have neo wake up from a bad dream of that |
| 21:59.10 | Cameron | kergoth: what about if I compile my own gcc cross compiler by enabling it in make menuconfig? |
| 21:59.18 | Cameron | will that solve my problem y ou think? |
| 21:59.22 | kergoth | the ones on openzaurus.org were built by buildroot |
| 21:59.25 | kergoth | so i doubt it |
| 21:59.39 | Cameron | but maybe there's something wrong with THAT particular build |
| 21:59.47 | Cameron | unlikely? |
| 21:59.58 | kergoth | doubtful |
| 22:01.05 | Cameron | ok |
| 22:01.48 | Cameron | and same with binutils, right? |
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| 22:04.27 | Cameron | oh well. kergoth, when do you recommend I try back here, to either compile myself a new kernel or to find out if a new one has been made for the C700? |
| 22:05.27 | Pendalar | I think you guys should switch out the pingy mascot for a Gundam SD |
| 22:05.38 | Pendalar | just cause it's too unbarebly cute |
| 22:05.43 | kergoth | we have a bunch of possible new logos for OE |
| 22:05.48 | kergoth | pingi is going away |
| 22:05.49 | Pendalar | url? |
| 22:05.52 | kergoth | well, he'll stay around as opie's mascot |
| 22:05.54 | kergoth | just not oe/oz's |
| 22:06.13 | Cameron | hehe |
| 22:06.22 | kergoth | no url, most arent up anywhere |
| 22:06.34 | kergoth | i think theres a tarball of some of them on openembedded.org somewhere though |
| 22:06.37 | Pendalar | pity. =-x I know you care which one I'd pick |
| 22:06.37 | kergoth | let me check |
| 22:06.46 | kergoth | well, i do want opinions on the subject |
| 22:06.54 | Pendalar | just not mine, I know |
| 22:07.38 | kathleen | i like pingi |
| 22:08.02 | kergoth | pingi is nice, but for one, its ambiguous since both opie and oz/oe use it |
| 22:08.09 | kergoth | and for two, its not exactly professional |
| 22:08.55 | Pendalar | professional is hardly important |
| 22:09.04 | Pendalar | like a guy with a red hat is professional |
| 22:09.08 | Pendalar | or debian's swirl |
| 22:09.09 | kathleen | well i still like it |
| 22:09.10 | Pendalar | ya know.. |
| 22:09.47 | kergoth | well compare a guy in a red hat to a fire breathing godzilla penguin |
| 22:09.50 | kergoth | i mean, no contest |
| 22:09.52 | kergoth | pingi is out there |
| 22:09.52 | kergoth | :) |
| 22:11.06 | Pendalar | how about the yoda drawing from the new cartoon? |
| 22:11.11 | Pendalar | with a saber of course |
| 22:11.41 | Pendalar | simply because it is fabled for yoda to be badass |
| 22:11.56 | Cameron | kergoth: I can only hope the kernel compile works on my Gentoo machine |
| 22:12.13 | Cameron | if not, the current buildroot/toolchain is really messed up! |
| 22:12.34 | Cameron | I'll check back later :) |
| 22:12.50 | Pendalar | he doth mock you |
| 22:13.04 | Pendalar | notice he didn't say it could be a problem with his box.. |
| 22:13.27 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:13.42 | kergoth | yeah well, users dont like to consider the possibility that its user error or a problem in their environment |
| 22:13.45 | kergoth | even though thats more likely the case |
| 22:14.24 | Pendalar | eggbeater of justice. haha.. SD Gundam Force is too good |
| 22:14.53 | Pendalar | would a 3.3.2 toolchain even be on the map of the 'anytime soon' ToDo list? |
| 22:16.44 | kergoth | yeah |
| 22:16.51 | kergoth | might build it this weekend if i dont get to it today |
| 22:19.07 | Pendalar | nice |
| 22:35.57 | noiddAWAY | users |
| 22:36.09 | noiddAWAY | everything would be a lot smoother without them :-) |
| 22:36.13 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:36.45 | noiddAWAY | oh kergoth, I lost my private ssh key in a HD crash a week or so ago |
| 22:36.58 | noiddAWAY | at some point I may ask you sweetly to update me with a new key |
| 22:37.24 | noiddAWAY | I've updated the buildroot (old) perl to 5.8.2 using sources direct from CPAN |
| 22:37.35 | noiddAWAY | I need to do the same with OE now |
| 22:38.27 | noiddAWAY | I have a new compile workhorse comming on order tomorrow which should speed up my builds |
| 22:38.34 | kergoth | k, cool |
| 22:40.40 | noiddAWAY | thanks |
| 22:40.43 | noiddAWAY | catch you in a while |
| 22:40.51 | noiddAWAY | gotta go out, do the social thing |
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