| 00:17.12 | SubZerooo | hey whats the pw to ftp into OZ |
| 00:17.19 | SubZerooo | and is the account root? |
| 00:18.00 | SubZerooo | ahh nm stupid me i forgot to look at the faw |
| 00:18.04 | SubZerooo | faq* |
| 00:27.10 | ljp | Qtopia |
| 00:27.34 | ljp | oz comes with ssh and scp also |
| 00:36.53 | mrwoody | what file does ipkg-link list read? |
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| 02:13.39 | pole | does opieplayer2 work well with 3.3.5-rc1? |
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| 02:47.57 | foo | Ok... |
| 02:48.08 | zakk | that bot is great |
| 02:48.24 | foo | what in the world is it refering to ? |
| 02:48.34 | zakk | 18:47 -!- telpochyaotl [~root@cs2888-53.austin.rr.com] has joined #openzaurus |
| 02:48.38 | zakk | 18:47 < ibot> ROOOOOOOOOT has landed! |
| 02:48.42 | ljp | someone loged in as root |
| 02:48.46 | zakk | yep |
| 02:48.49 | CoreDump|afk | lol |
| 02:49.00 | foo | ah |
| 02:49.01 | telpochyaotl | it's this gaim thing in oz |
| 02:49.07 | CoreDump|home | some people will never learn it |
| 02:49.30 | telpochyaotl | sorry! |
| 02:50.01 | ljp | ehh, no sweat. doesnt really matter anyway |
| 02:50.18 | telpochyaotl | i guess i should start using a different user in the zaurus |
| 02:50.23 | ljp | wonder if mickey got usb working on 2.4.18 |
| 02:50.26 | foo | how doesn't it matter? |
| 02:50.33 | ljp | tel: naaa.. |
| 02:50.41 | ljp | let ibot be an idiot |
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| 02:51.39 | ljp | only matters if someone wants to do something illegal anyway |
| 02:52.08 | telpochyaotl | is there any drawbacks in usig another user in oz? |
| 02:52.09 | ljp | 0r try, |
| 02:52.14 | CoreDump|Zaurus | funny, ibot isnt shouting when i log in with opie-irc as root |
| 02:52.28 | ljp | cause your username isnt root |
| 02:52.31 | CoreDump|home | maybe opie-irc is switching the user |
| 02:52.36 | ljp | yup |
| 02:52.44 | CoreDump|home | ah, nice |
| 02:52.46 | telpochyaotl | i know, but opie irc segged out |
| 02:52.46 | ljp | some let you specify that |
| 02:53.08 | telpochyaotl | i'm in 3.3.5 |
| 02:53.59 | telpochyaotl | so, does anyone use a different user than root on a zaurus? |
| 02:54.33 | ljp | not recommended |
| 02:54.35 | CoreDump|home | hmm there were issues w/ beeing non-root on a 5500 AFAICT |
| 02:54.47 | ljp | just be aware of it |
| 02:55.02 | ljp | and change your password using passwd |
| 02:55.07 | telpochyaotl | then this gaim ought to know better... |
| 02:55.15 | CoreDump|home | telpochyaotl: indeed |
| 02:55.27 | telpochyaotl | yea, changedd that firs thing |
| 02:56.03 | telpochyaotl | passwd i meant |
| 02:56.15 | CoreDump|home | i don't think there's a point to change to root PW if you have syncing enabled |
| 02:56.31 | ljp | snc doesnt use that password |
| 02:56.36 | telpochyaotl | this liittl keybd isnt that bad |
| 02:56.55 | CoreDump|home | that's what i mean. it's a default sync PW which can not be changed |
| 02:57.19 | telpochyaotl | i still dont sync. havent been able to compile kitchensnk |
| 02:57.29 | CoreDump|home | so one can root the box over WLAN :) |
| 02:57.33 | ljp | try multisync |
| 02:57.53 | CoreDump|home | yep multisync is nice |
| 02:58.12 | telpochyaotl | works with kde pim? |
| 02:58.42 | CoreDump|home | ummm nope, but it sync w/ evolution and some mobiles |
| 02:58.57 | ljp | bother zecke about kitchensync |
| 02:59.12 | telpochyaotl | i'm on wifi now, thats mainly why i chngd passwd. |
| 02:59.15 | ljp | and harlekin |
| 03:00.05 | CoreDump|home | gotta love the NFS server on my zaurus. Beats FTP any time |
| 03:00.22 | ljp | I tend to use ssh and scp |
| 03:00.30 | telpochyaotl | i do 2 |
| 03:00.40 | ljp | but the guy that shares my office uses nfs |
| 03:00.54 | CoreDump|home | me, too. but for browsing the Zs directories NFS sure is nice |
| 03:01.23 | CoreDump|home | long live Debian-ARM :) |
| 03:01.23 | ljp | gftp has ssh support |
| 03:01.42 | telpochyaotl | is there a pop client w/ssl for the oz? |
| 03:02.45 | ljp | not yet |
| 03:03.07 | telpochyaotl | i hate sending passwds clear |
| 03:03.38 | CoreDump|home | did any1 try building mail2 w/o launcher? I wonder if it will run that way |
| 03:04.07 | ljp | its possible, just run with a -qws argument |
| 03:04.17 | ljp | mail2 I doubt works |
| 03:04.25 | telpochyaotl | i saw an imap one, but for z i think pop is better.. |
| 03:04.28 | ljp | has been abandonded |
| 03:04.52 | CoreDump|home | hmm some1 mentioned the current mail2 has launcher probs. |
| 03:04.53 | ljp | mailit, but it doesnt use ssl |
| 03:04.54 | foo | ljp whats the most uptodate mail client |
| 03:05.13 | ljp | qtmail from trolltech |
| 03:05.16 | ljp | :) |
| 03:05.23 | CoreDump|home | or tkcmail |
| 03:05.24 | ljp | but its not available, really |
| 03:05.31 | ljp | ya theres that one |
| 03:05.34 | telpochyaotl | no ssl tho right? |
| 03:05.41 | foo | qtmail? where can one get that? |
| 03:05.53 | ljp | sharp rom |
| 03:06.04 | telpochyaotl | i would line an smtp srvr too.. |
| 03:06.14 | foo | ah, one of those you have to rip out of the rom |
| 03:06.18 | foo | would it even run on 3.3.5? |
| 03:06.33 | ljp | I can ask the qtmail guy if he plans on adding ssl |
| 03:06.47 | ljp | then I can poke him till he does |
| 03:06.56 | telpochyaotl | heh |
| 03:07.16 | CoreDump|home | we just need some1 looking into mail2. I.e. a dev how want's to have it working |
| 03:07.56 | ljp | or someone to make mailit use libtepan, or whatever that is |
| 03:08.39 | CoreDump|home | i'd love to have an email client w/ true IMAP support |
| 03:10.30 | ljp | qtmail has imap |
| 03:11.30 | CoreDump|home | it doesn't work w/ my courier imapd... |
| 03:12.01 | ljp | the one from sharp? |
| 03:12.37 | CoreDump|home | yes, tried it shortly before flashing OZ :). it wouldn't show me the folders |
| 03:12.47 | ljp | hmm |
| 03:13.01 | ljp | well, that code is two years old. :) |
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| 03:19.35 | CoreDump|home | np, i don't think that 'll ever *need* an email app. it'd be just nice to have |
| 03:20.41 | CoreDump|home | as long as opie-reader works, i'm completely fine :) |
| 03:20.54 | ljp | it is good for travelling when you dont want to carry a laptop |
| 03:21.44 | tanq | we're getting wifi in my office |
| 03:21.50 | tanq | i cant wait |
| 03:22.00 | tanq | i'm going to purchase winconnect Z when we do |
| 03:22.00 | ljp | :) |
| 03:22.03 | CoreDump|home | i just wish opie-reader would work w/ DRM'ed books :( I'd *love* to pay for ebooks if i could read them |
| 03:23.00 | vvff | Yeah, me too... I read lots of books... |
| 03:23.09 | CoreDump|home | same here |
| 03:23.12 | vvff | I have, like, 3 extra batteries for my z. |
| 03:23.24 | CoreDump|home | heh two here :) |
| 03:23.30 | W8TVI | DRM has no place in linux |
| 03:23.36 | ljp | the c7x00 is better for reading then sl5x |
| 03:23.45 | ljp | longer battery and vga |
| 03:24.23 | CoreDump|home | i don't see a reason for a good DRM method not to be opensource |
| 03:26.11 | CoreDump|home | or they should dev a watermarking technology for TXT files. who'd put ebooks into gnutella if their name is in it |
| 03:26.41 | vvff | Watermarking TXT? |
| 03:26.54 | vvff | Like mispelling words or what? |
| 03:26.55 | CoreDump|home | it has been done for HTML |
| 03:27.02 | CoreDump|home | yes |
| 03:27.48 | vvff | Hmm... Sounds easy to get rid of, just run a spellchecker... ;-) |
| 03:27.48 | CoreDump|home | whatever they do, they should make it opensource |
| 03:28.17 | vvff | A watermarking thing opensource? That just really wouldn't work. |
| 03:28.38 | CoreDump|home | yes but a true DRM system would |
| 03:28.53 | CoreDump|home | if it's done right |
| 03:29.47 | vvff | Yeah... |
| 03:30.35 | CoreDump|home | sigh, looks like they don't want me to buy ebooks :-(( |
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| 03:38.51 | telpochyaotl | anyone here uses snes9x? |
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| 03:42.24 | chouimat | night |
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| 03:47.43 | CoreDump|Zaurus | god damnit. looks like i fucked up my PCMCIA NIC grrrrrrr |
| 03:49.28 | ljp | hmm. how'd you do that? |
| 03:51.05 | CoreDump|Zaurus | got stuck with my foot in the cable and pulled it of of the connector a lil bit to hard AAAARGH |
| 03:52.00 | CoreDump|Zaurus | now im trying to adjust the little golden ping on my nick |
| 03:52.24 | CoreDump|Zaurus | s/ping/pins/ |
| 03:57.46 | foo | Ok |
| 03:57.54 | foo | I've got an interesting problem |
| 03:58.20 | foo | I installed OpieIRC etc on my sd card |
| 03:58.24 | foo | and I've got launcher icon's |
| 03:58.28 | foo | but for some reason |
| 03:58.38 | foo | it says "can't find Opie-IRC" whenever I try to run it |
| 03:58.41 | foo | what gives? |
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| 04:00.15 | foo | Howdy Coredump|home |
| 04:00.17 | CoreDump|home | w00t |
| 04:00.34 | CoreDump|home | i got my NIC fixed :) |
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| 04:00.51 | foo | Nice. |
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| 04:02.33 | CoreDump|home | you want want to try running opie-irc from the console |
| 04:05.28 | foo | interesting |
| 04:06.24 | foo | says not found |
| 04:06.45 | CoreDump|laptop | try reinstalling it |
| 04:06.57 | foo | hmm ok |
| 04:07.04 | foo | it's all of the opie-* packages that I just installed |
| 04:07.38 | CoreDump|laptop | ehh sec |
| 04:07.52 | CoreDump|laptop | cd to /opt/QtPalmtop/bin |
| 04:08.02 | CoreDump|laptop | then try it again |
| 04:10.35 | foo | it's there as a link to the sd card |
| 04:13.14 | foo | the link is bad |
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| 04:16.21 | foo | very odd |
| 04:16.30 | foo | I think I know whats wrong but I dunno how to fix it |
| 04:19.21 | foo | how would one use the 64-0 kernel ? |
| 04:19.33 | vvff | Use cf/sd cards |
| 04:19.36 | vvff | To install stuff on. |
| 04:19.53 | foo | vvff: Right but doesn't the initrd.bin have to be flashed in ? |
| 04:20.16 | foo | I think my current problem is that some of the opie* packages don't like being installed on non root |
| 04:20.16 | vvff | You mean how would you install it? |
| 04:20.20 | foo | yes |
| 04:20.51 | vvff | put initrd.bin and the zImage renamed to zImage on a vfat formatted cf card, flash standardly... ;-) |
| 04:21.30 | foo | even if I'm using the 64 ram 0 storage kernel ? |
| 04:21.50 | foo | I keep getting |
| 04:22.32 | foo | "Cannont create symlink from ./opt/QtPalmtop/bin/opieplayer2 to 'quicklauncher': Operation Not Permitted. |
| 04:22.42 | foo | so I'm thinking if I went to using the sd card for all storage I could fix that. |
| 04:24.02 | foo | actually no. |
| 04:24.09 | foo | installing to root doesn't help either. |
| 04:24.11 | foo | :( |
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| 06:55.18 | tanq | can you add users to the z? |
| 06:55.34 | tanq | i dont see a useradd |
| 06:59.05 | omin0us | can you just use the command: adduser? |
| 06:59.20 | tanq | its not working for some reason.. |
| 06:59.24 | tanq | adduser tanq |
| 06:59.34 | tanq | and i cant see the options |
| 06:59.39 | tanq | i tried --help |
| 06:59.57 | omin0us | just adduser <username> |
| 07:00.06 | tanq | didnt work |
| 07:00.08 | omin0us | then kill opie |
| 07:00.13 | omin0us | hmm |
| 07:00.17 | omin0us | what OZ you using? |
| 07:00.32 | tanq | not using OZ |
| 07:00.33 | tanq | using tkrom |
| 07:00.46 | omin0us | oh, i don't know about that then |
| 07:00.56 | tanq | i think i'm gonna install an rc OX |
| 07:00.57 | tanq | OZ |
| 07:01.27 | tanq | do you have a sec? |
| 07:01.56 | tanq | i kind of forgot what to do.. dont i just put updater.sh zImage and gcc on the root portion of my cf |
| 07:02.03 | tanq | and then reboot or something like that |
| 07:02.10 | omin0us | no |
| 07:03.01 | omin0us | put initrd.bin and zImage on a CF, then plug in the power cord, press 'C' and 'D' on the keyboard and press hard reset while holding those two keys |
| 07:03.27 | tanq | ahh yes.. |
| 07:03.36 | tanq | i'm at the directions right now.. |
| 07:03.43 | tanq | guess i'll try this real quick.. |
| 07:03.44 | omin0us | ok |
| 07:04.08 | CoreDump|laptop | any1 running 3.3.5 here? |
| 07:04.29 | tanq | i will be in a minute |
| 07:04.39 | tanq | as soon as i find my docking station |
| 07:05.53 | kergoth | omin0us: those instructions (c+d) dont apply to a c7x0 or 5600 |
| 07:12.32 | omin0us | i know |
| 07:13.23 | omin0us | sorry, i just assumed that he was using a 5500 |
| 07:13.37 | omin0us | i get my c760 this wednesday :) |
| 07:14.08 | tanq | i need a usb hub |
| 07:14.34 | omin0us | tanq, what model of zaurus do you have? |
| 07:16.03 | CoreDump|laptop | grr ipkg is driving me crazy on 3.3.5. it wont recognise the packages in my own feed |
| 07:17.08 | omin0us | i tried 3.3.5rc1 for a little while, i liked it because with the new 2.4.18 kernel it was very fast |
| 07:17.22 | omin0us | but my wifi wouldn't work with it |
| 07:17.43 | omin0us | so i decided to just stick with 3.2 till a new official release comes out |
| 07:17.44 | CoreDump|laptop | it still doesn't set up the WEP key automatically |
| 07:18.08 | omin0us | yeah, that is in the readme for it in the download Directory |
| 07:18.45 | CoreDump|laptop | nope, the readme is about WEP not working at all...it *does* work if i enter my key manually |
| 07:19.13 | omin0us | oh, my mistake |
| 07:19.46 | CoreDump|laptop | now i only need to figure out why my own .ipks no longer work grrr |
| 07:20.15 | omin0us | anyone have a c760 and tried OZ on it? |
| 07:20.25 | omin0us | i'm wondering how stable it is currently running? |
| 07:20.58 | omin0us | cause when i get mine, i'm contemplating Sash's X11 ROM or OZ if it is stable enough |
| 07:21.09 | kergoth | stability isnt the issue |
| 07:21.34 | kergoth | open bugs are. primarily the keyboard handling which isnt quite complete (so right shift and the keys on the side of the device dont work for example) |
| 07:22.09 | omin0us | i see |
| 07:23.34 | CoreDump|laptop | ok, my ipkg is royally screwed up |
| 07:25.12 | omin0us | kergoth: do you help out with Wellenreiter any? |
| 07:28.28 | kergoth | nope, never touched the wellenreiter code |
| 07:28.38 | kergoth | thats mickey's forte |
| 07:28.45 | W8TVI | omin0us, talk to mickeyl |
| 07:29.05 | W8TVI | night kergoth |
| 07:30.00 | CoreDump|laptop | time to go back to OZ3.2... |
| 07:30.06 | omin0us | yeah, i knew that mickey did a lot with that code, but wasn't sure if kergoth did too |
| 07:31.07 | omin0us | unfortunantly i dont see Mickey on the server |
| 07:31.33 | tanq | does it matter if the cradle is connected with usb when flashing the rom or does it only need to be plugged in |
| 07:31.41 | tanq | to ac power |
| 07:31.57 | omin0us | tanq, are you using a 5500? or 5600 or c7x0? |
| 07:32.02 | tanq | 5600 |
| 07:32.13 | omin0us | oh, then ignore my directions i gave you about flashing |
| 07:32.19 | omin0us | its different for the 5600 |
| 07:32.19 | tanq | omin0us: i know.. |
| 07:32.26 | omin0us | ok, just making sure |
| 07:32.33 | omin0us | and all you need is the AC |
| 07:32.37 | tanq | i knew that much.. heh |
| 07:32.55 | tanq | i have to take the battery out hit reset and put it back in |
| 07:33.01 | tanq | something like that.. |
| 07:33.12 | omin0us | not sure, never flashed a 5600 |
| 07:34.18 | tanq | ive done it a few times.. |
| 07:34.25 | tanq | its just been a while |
| 07:36.09 | tanq | is there vnc for OZ? |
| 07:36.16 | omin0us | yeah |
| 07:36.22 | omin0us | keypebble |
| 07:36.31 | tanq | now to cop the files over |
| 07:36.33 | omin0us | well, vnc client or server? |
| 07:36.47 | tanq | both |
| 07:37.21 | omin0us | i know keypebble is a vnc client, not sure if it works as a server too. and fbvnc is a server/client but i dont' know if it works in OZ |
| 07:40.05 | ljp | coredump: you can use my images if you want opie1.02 |
| 07:40.31 | CoreDump|laptop | ljp: thx but i got my own :) |
| 07:57.50 | tanq | man i am tired. |
| 07:57.54 | tanq | i cant stop yawnsing |
| 08:01.01 | tanq | i'm not sure this worked |
| 08:01.25 | tanq | should my tkrom screen still come up on my format after update |
| 08:02.55 | tanq | its just kind of sitting with the Kompany logo and a flashing cursor |
| 08:04.52 | ljp | ?? |
| 08:04.55 | tanq | ? |
| 08:05.27 | tanq | i think the flash failed |
| 08:05.32 | tanq | hmm.. |
| 08:05.47 | tanq | has 3.3.5 been tested on the 5600? |
| 08:07.20 | ljp | duo |
| 08:07.24 | ljp | dunno |
| 08:08.12 | tanq | its like the format isnt working |
| 08:08.20 | tanq | the update part worked |
| 08:09.37 | ljp | hmmm |
| 08:10.38 | tanq | i wonder if I should use the update.sh script from sharp |
| 08:12.56 | tanq | ok so this is interesting.. of all things that wont work its the format |
| 08:13.11 | tanq | ljp: |
| 08:13.29 | tanq | when you format is there any sort of progress bar like when you update? |
| 08:13.44 | tanq | or should i be staring at a blinking cursor at the old boot screen |
| 08:17.46 | ljp | 5600? dont know |
| 08:17.57 | ljp | flashing oz? |
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| 08:21.50 | tanq | yeah |
| 08:21.59 | tanq | i was usink theKompany Rom |
| 08:23.05 | CoreDump|laptop | ok FYI the ipkg which comes w/ 3.3.5 is borked. the option "download" no longer works |
| 08:25.17 | ljp | hmm. thats a bit odd |
| 08:25.30 | ljp | any errors? |
| 08:25.39 | tanq | oh yay.. |
| 08:25.46 | tanq | i hate it when a flash goes wrong |
| 08:25.51 | tanq | now i have to dick with this |
| 08:26.24 | CoreDump|laptop | it always say cannot find package blahh. even if it is there |
| 08:26.49 | CoreDump|laptop | the ipkg from oz3.2 works as expected - even on 3.3.5 |
| 08:28.00 | ljp | hmm. odd. works fine on my newest roms |
| 08:28.37 | tanq | ok this should work... |
| 08:28.38 | ljp | do this: edit /etc/ipkg.conf and if there is a line 'dest / / ' remove it |
| 08:28.47 | CoreDump|laptop | well it is not fine in 3.3.5 final |
| 08:28.48 | tanq | i forgot to mv zImage.bin to zImage |
| 08:28.59 | CoreDump|laptop | tanq: ARGH |
| 08:28.59 | ljp | tanq: doh |
| 08:30.02 | tanq | yeah it seems to be working... at least i'm at the sharp screen now |
| 08:30.21 | tanq | So is there some kewl splash screen of OZ? |
| 08:30.43 | CoreDump|laptop | just a penguin |
| 08:30.46 | tanq | doh |
| 08:31.08 | tanq | i kinda like theKompany's logo |
| 08:31.29 | tanq | how long does the format take... |
| 08:31.43 | ljp | format? you mean flash? |
| 08:32.03 | ljp | oz takes a bit as it configures [ackages after the flash reboos |
| 08:32.06 | ljp | reboots |
| 08:33.47 | tanq | well it says to go back to maintenance and select Format |
| 08:34.02 | CoreDump|laptop | lol http://www.animedome.de/Public/lotr_in_60_seconds.mp3 |
| 08:34.15 | tanq | so i've been at the Sharp please wait for 2 minute screen for 4 minutes |
| 08:34.44 | ljp | hmm |
| 08:35.54 | tanq | i guess i'll leave it for a while and see what comes out of it |
| 08:36.24 | ljp | hmmmmm |
| 08:36.40 | tanq | is that the best youve got |
| 08:36.41 | tanq | heh |
| 08:39.20 | ljp | hmmmmmmmm |
| 08:39.31 | tanq | yeah its not working... |
| 08:39.33 | tanq | safe to say |
| 08:39.48 | tanq | well the screen just blanked out on me |
| 08:39.48 | tanq | heh |
| 08:40.58 | ljp | hmmmm. doesnt sound too good |
| 08:41.20 | tanq | guess it doesnt work |
| 08:41.27 | tanq | kergoth: u here? |
| 08:41.27 | ljp | is there even an image/kernel or 5600? |
| 08:41.30 | tanq | yeah |
| 08:41.45 | tanq | http://www.openzaurus.org/official/testing/3.3.5-rc1/poodle/ |
| 08:41.48 | tanq | in testing |
| 08:41.49 | tanq | heh |
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| 11:03.47 | pizzathief | doh |
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| 12:12.16 | crazy-b | hi |
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| 12:19.29 | crazy-b | cheers on the 3.3.5 final ;) |
| 12:20.31 | crazy-b | can we expect a build for the c760 this weekend ;) ? |
| 12:20.44 | mickeyl | most likely :) |
| 12:20.56 | crazy-b | that would be cool |
| 12:21.40 | crazy-b | is there a changelog somewhere to see which issues have been resolved? aqpkg e.g. ? |
| 12:21.50 | mickeyl | the changelog is in my head |
| 12:21.56 | mickeyl | from memory: |
| 12:22.05 | mickeyl | fixed aqpkg and oxygen |
| 12:22.20 | mickeyl | more stuff preinstalled |
| 12:23.36 | mickeyl | that's pretty much all |
| 12:23.46 | crazy-b | thats cool. |
| 12:24.08 | crazy-b | aqpkg was important ;) |
| 12:27.10 | mickeyl | oh and for husky the kernel did not match the kernel modules *sigh* |
| 12:27.14 | mickeyl | that will be corrected also :) |
| 12:27.44 | crazy-b | yeah, i did notice that |
| 12:27.52 | crazy-b | (i mean the not mathcing kernel modules) |
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| 12:28.25 | crazy-b | how much space does the buildroot environment need? i freed 1.5 gb but it still run out of space ;) ? |
| 12:29.23 | mickeyl | for a complete feed you need around 3G |
| 12:29.29 | mickeyl | maybe more |
| 12:30.06 | crazy-b | damn thats more space i can free i think. i already deslected stuff like gcc and development stuff on the zaurus itself |
| 12:31.19 | ljp | get another hard drive |
| 12:31.52 | crazy-b | hehe yeah |
| 12:32.38 | crazy-b | mickeyl: where the not matching kernel-modules the reason for CF-wlan-cards on the husky to not be detected correct? |
| 12:32.46 | mickeyl | most likely |
| 12:33.25 | mickeyl | if the kernel modules don't match, they won't be loaded |
| 12:33.34 | mickeyl | and without orinoco or hostap, the CF card won't be initialized |
| 12:33.37 | mickeyl | nor correctly loaded |
| 12:34.12 | crazy-b | yeah, but it showed some bogus card name i never heard of when you insert the wlan card ;) |
| 12:35.01 | crazy-b | ah well, i'll wait for the build |
| 12:37.58 | mickeyl | bogus card names can come from wrong or double manufacturer entries in *.conf |
| 12:38.03 | mickeyl | this is mostly cosmetic |
| 12:38.21 | mickeyl | some vendors don't use official assigned numbers... grr |
| 12:39.11 | crazy-b | ahh ok. i though the non-working card would be due to the fact that it detects it wrong, but if thats just cosmetic, it doidnt work because of the kernel modules ;) |
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| 12:42.50 | mickeyl | crazy-b: anything you would like to have preinstalled? |
| 12:43.03 | crazy-b | kismet :-) |
| 12:43.14 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 12:43.21 | crazy-b | libpcap |
| 12:43.49 | crazy-b | well, i dont mind installing packets on my own, as long as the hardware works :) |
| 12:44.02 | mickeyl | as the wellenreiter author i don't know if i can support competing packets *g* |
| 12:44.07 | crazy-b | hehehe |
| 12:44.12 | crazy-b | ok, then go for wellenreiter |
| 12:44.31 | crazy-b | wellenreiter didnt work on sharprom due to kernel not supporting monitor mode |
| 12:44.39 | mickeyl | yep |
| 12:44.43 | mickeyl | never got around to fix that |
| 12:44.48 | mickeyl | not enough motivation |
| 12:44.54 | mickeyl | i don't use sharp... |
| 12:45.20 | crazy-b | i have a 760, so i'm kinda bound :) |
| 12:45.30 | mickeyl | up to today ;) |
| 12:45.36 | crazy-b | eagerly ;) |
| 12:45.42 | mickeyl | no really, oz on c7x0 is not perfect, but usable. |
| 12:45.55 | mickeyl | and we expect to have more helping hands after this first official release |
| 12:46.09 | crazy-b | count me in :) |
| 12:46.39 | mickeyl | :) |
| 12:47.46 | crazy-b | (i'll setup the buildroot soon, its definitly something i want to play with) |
| 12:50.38 | crazy-b | ahh something preinstalled, konqi :) |
| 12:52.19 | mickeyl | definitly |
| 12:53.03 | crazy-b | mplayer ? |
| 12:53.19 | mickeyl | mplayer and xmms don't build in the oz buildroot |
| 12:53.23 | mickeyl | better use them from external sources |
| 12:53.34 | mickeyl | be sure to get gcc3 builds though |
| 12:54.09 | crazy-b | i have the toolchain setup'ed, i guess it'll be hard to cross-compile but we'll see. otherwise i get a build |
| 12:54.33 | mickeyl | don't dive too much into the old buildroot |
| 12:54.38 | mickeyl | this will be the last build out of it |
| 12:54.46 | mickeyl | every bit of energy flows into OE |
| 12:54.50 | crazy-b | yeah i read that it will move to openembedded |
| 12:54.53 | mickeyl | (after that release) |
| 12:54.54 | crazy-b | i setup'ed OE, too |
| 12:54.57 | mickeyl | cool |
| 12:55.14 | crazy-b | i love the mixture of portage/bk in oe |
| 12:55.27 | mickeyl | yeah, the overall structure is really thought out |
| 12:55.35 | mickeyl | adding new packages is a breeze |
| 12:55.42 | crazy-b | that was my opinion, too, at first glance |
| 12:55.43 | mickeyl | and maintaining is also easier |
| 12:55.54 | crazy-b | so, the kernel stuff will be in OE in the future? |
| 12:56.20 | mickeyl | definitly. we're shooting for migrating everything - it's just a matter of time and helping hands :) |
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| 12:57.02 | crazy-b | ;) |
| 12:57.31 | mickeyl | we'll also be more "public" in the future |
| 12:57.37 | mickeyl | regular newsletters |
| 12:57.47 | mickeyl | first one is already prepared and will be online w/ 3.3.5 |
| 12:58.35 | tuxoverflow | is the next relaease available soon?? |
| 12:58.46 | crazy-b | thats definitly helping. i got more answers here on irc within 5 minutes talking to you than in hours reading various pages / maillinglists / forums / etc |
| 12:58.54 | tuxoverflow | ow will it be ready when its ready! |
| 12:59.13 | mickeyl | tuxoverflow: what device? |
| 12:59.20 | tuxoverflow | sl5500 |
| 12:59.34 | mickeyl | tuxoverflow: take a look into the directories... |
| 12:59.40 | tuxoverflow | okay |
| 13:02.30 | tuxoverflow | is stable collie 3.3.5 rc1? |
| 13:02.38 | mickeyl | don't look @ rc1 |
| 13:02.45 | mickeyl | use the final |
| 13:02.53 | tuxoverflow | okay |
| 13:02.54 | mickeyl | it's online for collie, not for the others |
| 13:03.13 | mickeyl | and... since it's an odd number release (3.3.x) it's not _stable_ :) |
| 13:03.19 | mickeyl | we're following kernel numbering |
| 13:03.28 | tuxoverflow | okay |
| 13:04.01 | mickeyl | brb |
| 13:04.03 | tuxoverflow | http://www.openzaurus.org/official/stable/ |
| 13:04.04 | tuxoverflow | corrtect |
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| 13:31.07 | crazy-b | tension raising :) |
| 13:32.04 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 13:32.08 | mickeyl | it's always an adventure |
| 13:32.10 | mickeyl | even for me |
| 13:32.18 | crazy-b | hehe |
| 13:32.29 | mickeyl | rebooting.... |
| 13:32.32 | mickeyl | ... |
| 13:32.38 | mickeyl | reconfiguring! |
| 13:32.55 | mickeyl | good so far :) |
| 13:33.10 | crazy-b | hehe coooolio |
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| 14:00.18 | dan2003 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:00.46 | mickeyl | you are trying to compile with an x86 compiler for xscale |
| 14:01.05 | dan2003 | hmm, i set it to arm, i thought something like this was happening! |
| 14:01.47 | crazy-b | dan2003: are you trying to compile the kernel from buildroot? |
| 14:01.52 | dan2003 | yes |
| 14:02.21 | dan2003 | i set all the arm / zaurus option in te cnfig and exported the path to /usr/local/arm/3.3 |
| 14:02.26 | dan2003 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:02.37 | crazy-b | i had the same problem, searched the web, there was a hint on the arm-linux-kernel list, the optimisation is wrong, it should be something else |
| 14:02.43 | mithro | the other problem could be you using 2.95.2 arm |
| 14:02.54 | dan2003 | i set it to gcc 3.3 |
| 14:02.56 | mithro | which doesn't know about -mxscale, 3.3 should though |
| 14:03.35 | mithro | it could be picking it up from somewhere |
| 14:03.58 | dan2003 | shouls i uncheck gcc2 toolcahin available for use? |
| 14:04.45 | mickeyl | you need gcc2 for the kernel |
| 14:05.29 | dan2003 | k, the fact that it mentions i686-pc-linux as the path to the complaining app sugests it is trying to use an x86 tool tho does it not? |
| 14:05.56 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 14:06.09 | mickeyl | do you have both the 2.95.3 and 3.x arm toolchains extracted? |
| 14:06.40 | dan2003 | eesh, now yr asking, how would i know? i have only a 3.3 dir in /usr/local/arm i think |
| 14:06.53 | mickeyl | you _think_ ? |
| 14:07.15 | dan2003 | i need a 2.95 theree as well then? |
| 14:07.20 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 14:07.29 | dan2003 | k, me try to locate one |
| 14:07.31 | mickeyl | otherwise you can't compile a workiug kernel |
| 14:07.36 | mickeyl | oz.org/official/toolchain |
| 14:07.47 | dan2003 | cheers |
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| 14:19.38 | Chairman | where do I find the oz-3.3.5 RC1? |
| 14:20.11 | dan2003 | its gone ofrm the tree |
| 14:20.23 | dan2003 | i think cos the 3.3.5 ill be there soon |
| 14:20.33 | Chairman | ah |
| 14:20.49 | dan2003 | may have just been move, have a look around |
| 14:21.10 | mickeyl | nope, gone. 3.3.5 due in the next few hours |
| 14:22.14 | dan2003 | mickeyl, is there a changelog ? |
| 14:23.08 | mickeyl | not really - other than openzaurus.bkbits.net, which may be a bit too verbose for your taste |
| 14:24.26 | dan2003 | ok, i been told that lirc exists in buildrrot, ok i can see there is a lirc package but it does not apear to be the kernel module lirc_sir, am i missing something? there is no lirc_sir option in the config |
| 14:24.56 | mickeyl | afaik lirc_sir is built as part of lirc |
| 14:26.15 | dan2003 | there doesnt appear to be an lirc_sir module with 3.3.5rc1, modprobe lirc_sir reports module not found, it isnt in module tree but i do have lirc according to ipkg |
| 14:26.28 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 14:26.29 | mickeyl | well |
| 14:26.41 | mickeyl | sorry, i can't do everything |
| 14:26.43 | mickeyl | try to fix it |
| 14:27.06 | dan2003 | thats what im trying to do, i just wanted to make sure i wasnt trying to fix somin that wasnt broke :) |
| 14:27.43 | mickeyl | i really don't know |
| 14:27.51 | dan2003 | k, ill play some more |
| 14:28.21 | mickeyl | have a look : |
| 14:28.28 | mickeyl | mickeyl@gandalf:/usr/local/projects/openzaurus/output/ipks$ ipkgfiles lirc_0.6.6-4_armv4l-strongarm.ipk |
| 14:28.28 | mickeyl | drwxrwxr-x root/root 0 2003-11-28 19:48:31 ./ |
| 14:28.28 | mickeyl | drwxrwxr-x root/root 0 2003-11-28 19:48:31 ./lib/ |
| 14:28.28 | mickeyl | drwxrwxr-x root/root 0 2003-11-28 19:48:31 ./lib/modules/ |
| 14:28.28 | mickeyl | drwxrwxr-x root/root 0 2003-11-28 19:48:31 ./lib/modules/2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix/ |
| 14:28.29 | mickeyl | drwxrwxr-x root/root 0 2003-11-28 19:48:31 ./lib/modules/2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix/kernel/ |
| 14:28.31 | mickeyl | drwxrwxr-x root/root 0 2003-11-28 19:48:31 ./lib/modules/2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix/kernel/drivers/ |
| 14:28.33 | mickeyl | drwxrwxr-x root/root 0 2003-11-28 19:48:31 ./lib/modules/2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix/kernel/drivers/char/ |
| 14:28.37 | mickeyl | -rwxr-xr-x root/root 4548 2003-11-28 19:48:31 ./lib/modules/2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix/kernel/drivers/char/lirc_sir.o |
| 14:28.39 | mickeyl | drwxrwxr-x root/root 0 2003-11-28 19:48:31 ./usr/ |
| 14:28.41 | mickeyl | drwxrwxr-x root/root 0 2003-11-28 19:48:31 ./usr/bin/ |
| 14:28.43 | mickeyl | -rwxr-xr-x root/root 6616 2003-11-28 19:48:31 ./usr/bin/rc |
| 14:28.45 | mickeyl | -rwxr-xr-x root/root 84752 2003-11-28 19:48:31 ./usr/bin/lircd |
| 14:28.47 | mickeyl | -rwxr-xr-x root/root 35512 2003-11-28 19:48:31 ./usr/bin/zremote_gui |
| 14:28.49 | mickeyl | -rwxr-xr-x root/root 682 2003-11-28 19:48:30 ./usr/bin/zremote |
| 14:28.51 | mickeyl | -rwxr-xr-x root/root 86552 2003-11-28 19:48:31 ./usr/bin/irrecord |
| 14:28.53 | mickeyl | so like I said |
| 14:28.55 | mickeyl | the module is contained in the lirc package |
| 14:30.54 | dan2003 | it would seem so! its not on my z, ill have to look again at what i got installed |
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| 14:41.59 | foo | AHHHH!!! he pulled the 3.3.5 stuff!!! |
| 14:50.06 | mickeyl | ok folks |
| 14:50.12 | mickeyl | i need confirmations for several models |
| 14:50.28 | mickeyl | i need people with a poodle, a husky and a corgi |
| 14:50.39 | crazy-b | "husky" |
| 14:50.45 | mickeyl | good |
| 14:50.55 | mickeyl | head over to http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/.3.3.5 |
| 14:51.00 | mickeyl | [note the dot] |
| 14:51.17 | mickeyl | i just need confirmation that it flashes and boots right into opie |
| 14:51.32 | crazy-b | ok sure lem me download and flash |
| 14:51.37 | mickeyl | good |
| 14:51.42 | mickeyl | poodle, corgi, anyone ? |
| 14:52.10 | crazy-b | zimage.bin, isnt it zImage.bin ? |
| 14:52.23 | mickeyl | no |
| 14:52.27 | mickeyl | maybe both |
| 14:52.29 | mickeyl | but definitly zimage.bin |
| 14:52.47 | dan2003 | iva c760, this a husky or shepheard isnt it? (am confused about which cos i was told it was a huskey but found the shepeard stuff worked and the husky didnt!) |
| 14:52.50 | crazy-b | hehe ok you're the boss. 3.3.5-rc1 was zImage i think. |
| 14:53.01 | mickeyl | it's zImage for collie |
| 14:53.06 | mickeyl | but zimage.bin for all other models |
| 14:53.18 | mickeyl | dan2003: this time i took the chance to name the models real |
| 14:53.26 | dan2003 | k |
| 14:57.30 | dan2003 | should one execute a full reset (option 3) prior to flashing? or |
| 14:57.45 | mickeyl | not needed |
| 14:57.51 | dan2003 | anything i want is saved to mmc, ok |
| 14:58.03 | foo | Collie works wonderfully |
| 14:58.17 | CoreDump|laptop | indeed |
| 14:59.08 | mickeyl | good. collie and shepherd confirmed. missing husky,poddle and corgi. |
| 14:59.21 | mickeyl | i only want "mission critical" reports. if it works somehow, it's good enough for an unstable release :) |
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| 15:01.50 | crazy-b | damn network. |
| 15:01.54 | crazy-b | flashing now. |
| 15:03.59 | crazy-b | "cant locate module devinfo", but it continues |
| 15:04.56 | crazy-b | rebooting. |
| 15:09.25 | chouimat | morning |
| 15:09.47 | crazy-b | mickeyl: boots into opie without problems. gonna test the wlan card now. |
| 15:09.53 | mickeyl | thanks |
| 15:10.09 | mickeyl | crazy-b: that was husky? |
| 15:10.26 | crazy-b | yeah |
| 15:10.35 | mickeyl | good. collie, shepherd, husky confirmed. missing poddle and corgi. |
| 15:11.13 | crazy-b | wland card is detected as bogues card, but it loads the hostap drivers, so it seems to work |
| 15:11.29 | chouimat | mickeyl: they left this morning ... they saw a nice shit-tzu downtown yesterday ... |
| 15:11.56 | mickeyl | chouimat: lol |
| 15:12.01 | tuxoverflow | will the feeds settle down for 3.3.5today? |
| 15:12.04 | crazy-b | mickeyl: wlan works fine now. lemme test usb now. |
| 15:12.22 | mickeyl | chouimat: do me a favour and try to recruit people testing poodle and corgi @ openzaurus.org/official/unstable/.3.3.5 [note the dot!] |
| 15:12.27 | mickeyl | i must leave for shopping |
| 15:12.28 | mickeyl | bbl |
| 15:12.47 | chouimat | ok |
| 15:15.08 | foo | Removal of packages through the AQpkg interface locks it up good. (Collie) |
| 15:15.28 | CoreDump|laptop | nahhh |
| 15:15.33 | CoreDump|laptop | wait a lil bit |
| 15:15.55 | foo | 20 minutes? |
| 15:16.15 | CoreDump|laptop | umm nbo |
| 15:17.46 | crazy-b | nice, usb+wlan works, hehe, thats much better than last time :) |
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| 15:21.54 | crazy-b | damn what is "ctrl" now? |
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| 16:12.19 | crazy-b | works really fine. wellenreiter doesnt work, but well :-) thatsd not everything ;) |
| 16:13.43 | mickeyl | now where are the poodle and corgi folks? |
| 16:13.48 | mickeyl | i want to announce the release... |
| 16:13.57 | mickeyl | but i can't prior to at least testing a successful boot into opie |
| 16:16.01 | chouimat | mickeyl: I got linux and opie somewhat working on the dc last night |
| 16:16.11 | mickeyl | cool |
| 16:16.16 | mickeyl | define "somewhat" ? |
| 16:16.38 | chouimat | mickeyl: it's boot but nothing work yet |
| 16:17.01 | mickeyl | cool anyway. what's the arch? is that MIPS? |
| 16:17.47 | chouimat | SH4 |
| 16:19.12 | tuxoverflow | and hancom office dont work |
| 16:19.15 | tuxoverflow | word |
| 16:19.24 | tuxoverflow | oh well |
| 16:20.39 | dan2003 | is buildroot up-to-date? |
| 16:20.46 | tuxoverflow | did you use wellenreiter from the feed |
| 16:21.07 | chouimat | mickeyl: I need to get the codercable so I can stop using CD like hell |
| 16:21.30 | mickeyl | chouimat: jtag ? |
| 16:21.47 | dan2003 | bkpull says nothing to do but make falis cos some files dont exist on the source site anymore |
| 16:21.54 | chouimat | mickeyl: serial cable |
| 16:22.02 | mickeyl | dan2003: that happens... try to google for the sources |
| 16:22.05 | dan2003 | k |
| 16:22.16 | mickeyl | dan2003: then put them into the 'sources' directory |
| 16:22.22 | dan2003 | yep |
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| 16:29.35 | kathleen | is the initrd.bin the same in 3.3.5-rc1 and 3.3.5 |
| 16:29.56 | mickeyl | no. slight fixes |
| 16:30.15 | kathleen | drat, i hate dialup |
| 16:30.32 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 16:30.48 | kathleen | oh well thats what i get for wanting to live in the country |
| 16:31.50 | chouimat | kathleen: huh? |
| 16:32.45 | kathleen | chouimat: i live way out in the country no broadband option |
| 16:32.58 | kathleen | well no reasonable one anyways |
| 16:33.06 | chouimat | kathleen: I'm 145 km east of Quebec and I have DSL here |
| 16:33.47 | kathleen | no dsl or cable here and bell has no plans to offer it anytime soon |
| 16:34.40 | chouimat | kathleen: ouch ... must be a really small place |
| 16:35.21 | kathleen | nearest house to me is like 1km |
| 16:36.36 | chouimat | kathleen: I won't be able ... I lived till july in downtown Quebec so the first nights I was here I was unable to sleep too quiet |
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| 16:50.32 | dan2003 | can i just get something cleared up, dos the c760 have 128 or 64 meg flash? it has 64mb sdram im sure |
| 16:50.53 | mickeyl | 128 |
| 16:51.54 | dan2003 | ahha |
| 16:51.59 | dan2003 | that makes sense then :) |
| 16:53.43 | dan2003 | mode is still reported as a 750, is it not read from /proc |
| 16:54.22 | crazy-b | thats true, also, if you check system settings, it reports as 750, but well ... :) |
| 16:54.46 | Pixel_ | What would be the best mediaplayer for a c750 w/ oz ? |
| 16:55.03 | Pixel_ | for movies |
| 16:55.59 | crazy-b | i guess mplayer? |
| 16:56.14 | crazy-b | i never tried it though since today is the first day oz/opie works fine for me. |
| 16:56.54 | crazy-b | i'm gonna try opie.mediaplayer2 now, let see |
| 16:57.21 | mickeyl | dan2003: no. we no longer differenciate c7x0 in Opie. there's no need to. |
| 16:59.59 | crazy-b | Pixel_: hmm opie-mediaplayer2 segfaults so well :-( |
| 17:00.16 | dan2003 | ok |
| 17:00.35 | Pixel_ | okay, but is there a gui for mplayer ? |
| 17:01.00 | crazy-b | i dont know for embedded hardware |
| 17:01.18 | Pixel_ | bummer |
| 17:01.24 | Pixel_ | :D |
| 17:03.10 | crazy-b | ha |
| 17:03.17 | crazy-b | 2nd time i started it, it pops up. |
| 17:03.31 | Pixel_ | what ? media player + |
| 17:03.32 | tuxoverflow | is there any way of resolving this on a package: Package hancommobileword has no Architecture defined. |
| 17:03.33 | Pixel_ | ? |
| 17:04.21 | crazy-b | Pixel_: i just installed opie-mediaplayer2, and when i started it for 1st time, it segfaulted. now, just by trying again, it worked. lets see if it plays a video. |
| 17:04.27 | Pixel_ | :D |
| 17:04.43 | crazy-b | "yeah" |
| 17:04.46 | crazy-b | leet. |
| 17:04.57 | Pixel_ | hehe |
| 17:05.06 | Pixel_ | Gonna install it when i get home then |
| 17:05.15 | crazy-b | its not as fast as tkcvideo, though. |
| 17:05.20 | dan2003 | i tried playing a divx in kino2 on the sharp rom the other day!! was quite amusing, about 1 frame every 3 seconds, i guess i could recode it at a lower bitrate and it should work quite well |
| 17:05.44 | crazy-b | dan2003: tkcvideo was very fast on sharp-rom. |
| 17:05.46 | Pixel_ | The best player is tkcVideo ? |
| 17:06.03 | crazy-b | yeah but you have to pay $ 19.95 |
| 17:06.06 | dan2003 | is that gpl or some comercial thing ? |
| 17:06.31 | crazy-b | commercial, built upon ffmpeg |
| 17:07.20 | Pixel_ | okay |
| 17:07.21 | mickeyl | grammar question: |
| 17:07.34 | mickeyl | "our now regular appearing newsletter" ? |
| 17:07.35 | mickeyl | or |
| 17:07.38 | mickeyl | "our now regularly appearing newsletter" ? |
| 17:07.41 | mickeyl | adverb or not? |
| 17:07.53 | Pixel_ | looks neet thou: "http://www.thekompany.com/embedded/tkcvideo/_img/screenshots/newsnapshot02.jpg" |
| 17:08.01 | dan2003 | oh, nfs not woring on 3.3.5 |
| 17:08.11 | Pixel_ | nfs ? |
| 17:08.16 | eworm | appearing is a verb |
| 17:08.17 | crazy-b | nr. 1 sounds better, eventhough english is not my native tongue :-) |
| 17:08.30 | eworm | so you should use an adverb i think... |
| 17:08.42 | mickeyl | k, then it must be regularLY |
| 17:09.00 | dan2003 | i had an 80gig drive nfs mounted via wifi so i had a portable music player :) but it wont mount now, get an error: mount: RPC: Remote system error - Invalid argument |
| 17:09.36 | dan2003 | ignore me, i got erong ip! |
| 17:09.40 | eworm | its not my first language, either |
| 17:09.51 | crazy-b | dan2003: :-)) |
| 17:10.02 | eworm | Will there be a release this weekend? |
| 17:10.30 | crazy-b | hrm, "error for wireless request set frequency 8b04" *damn* |
| 17:11.16 | crazy-b | where is ctrl-key now ? |
| 17:11.21 | dan2003 | nfs mounting takes ages on oz, its near instantaneious with sharp rom, why would this be? |
| 17:11.51 | tanq | anyone i here have 3.35 working on the 5600 |
| 17:13.09 | tanq | my Z gets stuck on the Format(#3 maintenance) after the update |
| 17:13.19 | tanq | its just sits at the Sharp screen |
| 17:17.03 | tanq | man i love how everyone disappears |
| 17:17.08 | mickeyl | #3 ??? |
| 17:17.26 | mickeyl | i don't know what you do in #3 |
| 17:17.28 | tanq | its the 3rd option |
| 17:17.31 | mickeyl | #4 is for updating |
| 17:17.35 | tanq | for FOrmat |
| 17:17.40 | mickeyl | why formatting? |
| 17:17.44 | tanq | for the 5600 |
| 17:17.49 | mickeyl | yes, but why? |
| 17:17.55 | tanq | to make sure the rootfs match |
| 17:17.57 | tanq | or something like that |
| 17:18.09 | mickeyl | don't bother with #3 |
| 17:18.26 | mickeyl | oz 3.3.5 don't need formatting. |
| 17:18.31 | tanq | http://www.zaurus.com/dev/support/flashrom_update_sl5600v100.htm |
| 17:18.38 | tanq | do you have a 5600?\ |
| 17:18.45 | tanq | flashing is different |
| 17:19.32 | mickeyl | <mickeyl> don't bother with #3 |
| 17:19.32 | mickeyl | <mickeyl> oz 3.3.5 don't need formatting. |
| 17:19.34 | hardwire | ugh |
| 17:19.47 | hardwire | anybody have experience with a 2.6.x kernel connecting over usb to OZ? |
| 17:20.07 | tuxoverflow | i have noticed while trying to run wellenreiter from a prompt it says libopiecore2.so.1 is required - ive lookes and libopie2 is in installed? any ides |
| 17:20.10 | pole | my sd card just stopped working... how can i get more info on whats going on? |
| 17:20.29 | dan2003 | opieplayer doesnt have a icon at the bottom of the screen so as soo as u open sumin else tehre no way of getting it back that i can see.. or is there? |
| 17:20.45 | mickeyl | tuxoverflow: you did install it to a card? if so, did you ipkg-link ? |
| 17:20.55 | tuxoverflow | no |
| 17:20.57 | tuxoverflow | ah |
| 17:21.08 | mickeyl | libopie is a library |
| 17:21.12 | tuxoverflow | sd is linked to root |
| 17:21.14 | mickeyl | libraries must be on an ext2fs |
| 17:21.15 | mickeyl | and be linked |
| 17:21.31 | tuxoverflow | its on Sd card etx2 |
| 17:21.35 | tuxoverflow | ext2 |
| 17:21.37 | tuxoverflow | sorry |
| 17:22.12 | tuxoverflow | ive gone into packages configure and linked my sd card to root is that correct |
| 17:22.40 | mickeyl | yes, but you must call ipkg-link after each install |
| 17:22.51 | mickeyl | i don't know 'bout aqpkg, never used it |
| 17:22.57 | tuxoverflow | ok |
| 17:23.41 | Pixel_ | how come my Z says "Could not locate application mail" when i try to start "e-mail" ? |
| 17:23.50 | Pixel_ | or; where do it get mail ? |
| 17:23.58 | dan2003 | anybody know whats with the WIP stuff? e2fsprogs_1.34+1.35-WIP-2003.08.21.orig.tar.gz .. 1.33 doesnt exist there anymore i want to know if i can use this instead |
| 17:24.01 | mickeyl | bbl |
| 17:24.03 | mickeyl | need a break |
| 17:24.04 | crazy-b | tuxoverflow: please tell me if you have success. wellenreiter complains about undefined symbol after installing the feed |
| 17:24.07 | *** part/#openzaurus mickeyl (mickeyl@gandalf.tm.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de) |
| 17:24.53 | tuxoverflow | ive got opera working so far and nmap with front end! |
| 17:25.02 | tuxoverflow | kismet no chance! |
| 17:25.06 | pole | was 3.3.5-rc1 taken from the openzaurus.org server? |
| 17:25.12 | tuxoverflow | etherearl is good |
| 17:25.13 | crazy-b | tuxoverflow: whats your kismet problem? |
| 17:25.13 | pole | i cant find it anymore |
| 17:25.24 | dan2003 | .3.3.5 now instead |
| 17:25.52 | pole | huh? |
| 17:25.52 | tuxoverflow | im using 3.3.5 |
| 17:26.20 | dan2003 | http://www.openzaurus.org/official/testing/.3.3.5 |
| 17:26.40 | pole | why did that happen? |
| 17:27.05 | dan2003 | cos its not rc1 anymore, and it was being tested by some of us before being made visible |
| 17:27.23 | pole | k |
| 17:27.26 | hardwire | hmm |
| 17:27.42 | hardwire | I just don't think you can connect the Z running OpenZaurus to a 2.6.0 host computer over USB |
| 17:28.43 | pole | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:28.49 | tuxoverflow | yes |
| 17:29.07 | tuxoverflow | its a the finished version - ihope |
| 17:29.07 | crazy-b | any idea what do do when ipkg says "cannot find package" while it is there ?!?! |
| 17:29.23 | pole | so the readme is out dated? |
| 17:29.31 | tuxoverflow | try and run from a prompt |
| 17:29.36 | tuxoverflow | you will see the real reason |
| 17:29.42 | tuxoverflow | which package?? |
| 17:29.55 | crazy-b | i did from the prompt |
| 17:30.01 | crazy-b | in this case kismet 3.0.1 |
| 17:30.16 | pole | http://www.openzaurus.org/official/testing/.3.3.5/SL5500+SL5000/README.FIRST <- is this current? |
| 17:30.23 | crazy-b | yes |
| 17:30.32 | tuxoverflow | install kismet from the feed |
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| 17:30.52 | crazy-b | tuxoverflow: yeah that worked, but i wanted to try 3.0.1 |
| 17:31.05 | crazy-b | the one from the feed complains about not setting frequency mode |
| 17:31.36 | dan2003 | is the beam receive app on sharp rom opensource or not? |
| 17:31.49 | tuxoverflow | were did you get your kismet ipk? |
| 17:34.13 | tuxoverflow | if anyone gets wellenreiter working let me know please its better than kismet by far |
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| 17:34.53 | Bernardo | hi |
| 17:35.22 | pole | i spent so much time installing all my favorite apps to my SD card, and the fucking just shitted on me |
| 17:35.37 | pole | s/king/ker/ |
| 17:35.49 | tuxoverflow | nightmare yer |
| 17:35.56 | tuxoverflow | i just formatted mine |
| 17:36.02 | tuxoverflow | start new with 3.3.5 |
| 17:36.06 | pole | i did too, but it seems like i'm goign to have to repartition it |
| 17:36.20 | pole | exactly... i'm flashing to 3.3.5 as we speak |
| 17:36.42 | tuxoverflow | its a pain but what the hell |
| 17:36.57 | tuxoverflow | i hope the packages become available soon |
| 17:36.57 | tuxoverflow | or fixes for them |
| 17:37.05 | Bernardo | I solved my problems with my sd card |
| 17:37.10 | pole | what did you do? |
| 17:37.15 | pole | what problems were you having? |
| 17:37.17 | tuxoverflow | i only need to get wellenreiter working - and hancom word and im happy! |
| 17:37.28 | Bernardo | I found the part table had the partition as fat, and I had formatted it as ext2 |
| 17:37.29 | pole | is hancom word decent? |
| 17:37.41 | pole | Bernardo: i prolly did that too |
| 17:37.58 | Bernardo | I deleted that part, created as ext2, and no longer had problems with oz losing access to my sd card |
| 17:38.29 | Bernardo | is 3.3.5 out? |
| 17:38.31 | pole | cool, that sounds just like my problem |
| 17:38.45 | pole | the last 5 minutes it appeard in /testing/ |
| 17:38.55 | Bernardo | ah, ok |
| 17:39.07 | Bernardo | 15 minutes out there was no rc1 there... |
| 17:39.21 | AndersB | Hi. I flashed 3.3.5-rc1 yesterday, and I guess I got the zImage part wrong somehow. Now, it boots into |
| 17:39.37 | pole | right... exactly the same happend to me... i was trying to download fdisk from the feed and it wasnt there anymore |
| 17:40.10 | pole | i really like the 3.3.5 fb booting screen thing |
| 17:40.22 | crazy-b|eat | tuxoverflow: i definitly need wellenreiter too :-( |
| 17:40.24 | AndersB | linux 2.4.6, but with the new initrd image. Neither usb networking or cf seems to work. |
| 17:40.40 | AndersB | Is there anything I can do short of getting a card reader? |
| 17:41.08 | tanq | tuxoverflow: what z do you have |
| 17:41.21 | Bernardo | well, time to download again... |
| 17:41.32 | pole | um... it should work no matter what kernel you are using... almost all the kernels didnt break CF reading |
| 17:43.30 | tanq | how come initrd is only in 3.35 RC1 |
| 17:43.37 | pole | btw, what happend to the preemptive kernels that people were playing with months ago? |
| 17:43.44 | tanq | i dont see itin the 3.3.5 directory |
| 17:43.57 | AndersB | pole: If I do a 'df', it only shows /dev/mtdblock[46] |
| 17:44.17 | pole | AndersB: um,your cf card is /dev/hda1 not /dev/mtdwahtever |
| 17:44.35 | pole | tanq: http://www.openzaurus.org/official/testing/3.3.5/SL5500+SL5000/images/ |
| 17:44.41 | AndersB | pole: if I do a mount /mnt/cf, I get: /dev/hd1 unknown device. |
| 17:44.54 | pole | hda1 unknown device? |
| 17:45.03 | pole | well, you might be missing the corrent module then |
| 17:45.08 | tanq | damn the link changed |
| 17:45.24 | tanq | I was using http://www.openzaurus.org/official/testing/3.3.5-rc1/ |
| 17:45.30 | AndersB | pole: That's what I figured too. Unfortunately, the same store seems to be true for usb networking. |
| 17:45.36 | tanq | i guess kergoth moved everything over to just 3.3.5 |
| 17:45.39 | pole | tanq: refresh your browser, that isnt there anymore |
| 17:45.44 | tanq | pole: yeah i know |
| 17:45.55 | tanq | so where do i get initrd for teh 5600 |
| 17:46.27 | pole | AndersB: right... but you might just be missing the vfat module... i dont think the kernel needs anything to just mount cf cards... i could be totally wrong |
| 17:46.46 | tanq | kergoth: u there? |
| 17:47.26 | pole | isnt the 5500 and the 5600 root images the same? |
| 17:47.53 | yeiazel | no |
| 17:48.32 | tanq | nope |
| 17:50.59 | tanq | just gonna try to use the initrd i got last night |
| 17:51.22 | tanq | i noticed the kernel is smaller than the one from last night |
| 17:53.23 | pole | after creating the partition on my sd card, should i reinsert the card? or just do a mkfs.ext2? |
| 17:53.53 | tanq | why would you take it out? |
| 17:54.01 | *** part/#openzaurus AndersB (~anders@15.80-202-52.nextgentel.com) |
| 17:54.16 | tanq | i'm beginning to wonder.. |
| 17:54.21 | pole | just wondering if i can just format it right after i partition it |
| 17:54.30 | tanq | yes you can |
| 17:54.34 | tanq | but.. |
| 17:54.41 | tanq | make sure you format the specific partition |
| 17:54.45 | pole | right |
| 17:55.01 | tanq | this isnt working... |
| 17:55.07 | tanq | i guess back to Tkrom |
| 17:58.59 | tuxoverflow | whats Tkrom? |
| 17:59.07 | tuxoverflow | is that the kompany rom |
| 17:59.09 | tanq | theKompany Rom |
| 17:59.17 | tanq | tuxoverflow: do you have a 5600? |
| 17:59.20 | tuxoverflow | ah but it doesnt syn |
| 17:59.25 | tuxoverflow | no i have a sl5500 |
| 17:59.29 | tanq | hmm |
| 17:59.36 | tuxoverflow | it doesnt sync with qtopia |
| 17:59.39 | tuxoverflow | no good |
| 18:00.07 | tanq | ok so in spite of my directions that say to Format after Update... |
| 18:00.08 | tuxoverflow | why dony you use oz 3.3.5 |
| 18:00.16 | tanq | Supposedly I dont need to do that |
| 18:00.18 | tanq | ? |
| 18:00.27 | tanq | tuxoverflow: because it wont work |
| 18:00.31 | tuxoverflow | yes which version have you got |
| 18:00.31 | tuxoverflow | oh |
| 18:00.38 | tuxoverflow | what Z u have? |
| 18:00.42 | tanq | 3.3.5 5600 |
| 18:00.43 | tuxoverflow | 5600 |
| 18:00.46 | tuxoverflow | ah |
| 18:00.58 | tuxoverflow | im using it on the 5500 |
| 18:01.02 | tanq | plus kergoth didnt put initrd in the directory |
| 18:01.05 | tuxoverflow | it not 100% |
| 18:01.10 | tuxoverflow | but early days! |
| 18:01.21 | tuxoverflow | ah |
| 18:01.23 | tanq | i'm using the initrd that i grabbed last night |
| 18:01.28 | tanq | from 3.3.5 rc1 |
| 18:01.28 | tuxoverflow | ah |
| 18:01.34 | tuxoverflow | not good |
| 18:01.38 | tanq | so anyway.. it says Please Reset |
| 18:01.46 | tanq | what should I do outside of the intructions |
| 18:01.49 | tanq | just reboot it? |
| 18:02.05 | tuxoverflow | when will it be there has any one got any idea |
| 18:02.53 | tuxoverflow | i would wait till the right one appears |
| 18:02.55 | Disconnect | kergoth: you ever send that mail? |
| 18:03.17 | tuxoverflow | kompany doesny sync and they dont know how to fix it |
| 18:03.21 | tuxoverflow | not good |
| 18:03.35 | tanq | heh |
| 18:03.42 | tanq | yeah sysinfo doesnt work either |
| 18:04.00 | dan2003 | anybody have ir working ? |
| 18:04.01 | tuxoverflow | ah no good |
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| 18:04.05 | tanq | this sucks man.. |
| 18:04.19 | tanq | :/ |
| 18:04.20 | tuxoverflow | i would wait for the right oz 3.3.5 for the z sl5600 |
| 18:04.29 | pole | tuxoverflow: i have the hancom word ipk from the last rom, how can i install it? |
| 18:04.30 | tuxoverflow | not rc1 |
| 18:04.38 | tanq | well i cant imagine initrd would make too much of a difference |
| 18:04.46 | tanq | i have the new zImage |
| 18:04.51 | tanq | and the rc1 initrd |
| 18:04.56 | tuxoverflow | mmm dont know |
| 18:05.10 | tuxoverflow | i have the same problem with the hancom ipkg |
| 18:05.31 | pole | Package hancommobileword has no Architecture defined. |
| 18:05.36 | tuxoverflow | if you try from a prompt its to do with the architectue type? |
| 18:05.39 | tanq | well maybe i'll just go back to sharp |
| 18:06.03 | tuxoverflow | yes i would use sharp before kompany |
| 18:06.19 | tuxoverflow | you can use the rom 3 on 5600 cant you |
| 18:06.52 | tanq | ? |
| 18:07.09 | pole | anyone know how to fix that "no architecture defined" problem wiht ipks? |
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| 18:07.20 | tuxoverflow | i want to know too! |
| 18:07.23 | chuckr | openzaurus |
| 18:07.51 | pole | maybe sharp made the ipk like that on purpose so we cant install it on OZ! |
| 18:08.11 | tuxoverflow | ha yer !! funny because they work in 3.2 oz |
| 18:08.12 | tanq | it installs on tKrom |
| 18:08.26 | pole | heh... |
| 18:08.56 | tuxoverflow | yes in know i used it for a while |
| 18:09.04 | tuxoverflow | ive been tempted to go back |
| 18:09.09 | tuxoverflow | but i would wait |
| 18:09.23 | tuxoverflow | they only put the 3.3.5 up today so i would wait |
| 18:09.32 | pole | umkay... |
| 18:09.33 | tuxoverflow | it will settle down over the next few days |
| 18:09.49 | dan2003 | hmmph.. konq crashes on www.google.co.uk |
| 18:10.05 | tuxoverflow | why dont you install 3.2 for now |
| 18:10.16 | tuxoverflow | try opera that works fine |
| 18:10.20 | pole | i dont care about hancomword that much |
| 18:10.23 | pole | opera does work |
| 18:10.39 | tuxoverflow | i do |
| 18:10.40 | pole | i never used hancom word... is it useful for anything? |
| 18:10.46 | tuxoverflow | ill get it working!! |
| 18:10.57 | Disconnect | its like pocketword. basic word processing, and it opens/saves msword fils. |
| 18:11.01 | tuxoverflow | for word docs! that s it |
| 18:11.33 | pole | what about jeode... does that work/ |
| 18:11.59 | torment | i haven't heard of anyone getting hancom word/sheet or jeode working in OZ |
| 18:12.35 | Bernardo | I haven't been able to get jeode to work... even with the ipkg to generate it from zaurus rom |
| 18:14.47 | tanq | do any other versions of OZ work on the 5600 |
| 18:14.55 | tanq | seems like i tried some of the 550s |
| 18:15.00 | tanq | s/550/5500 |
| 18:15.19 | tanq | oh duh nm |
| 18:15.35 | pole | mediaplayer2 doesnt work out of the box, right? |
| 18:15.37 | tanq | i had take the 500 source before and changed everything to poodle |
| 18:15.43 | tanq | damnit i cant type |
| 18:15.48 | tanq | s/500/5500 |
| 18:16.25 | tanq | i'm gonna try the alpha tkrom |
| 18:17.42 | tuxoverflow | version 1 u mean? |
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| 18:19.30 | tanq | no its version2 alpha |
| 18:20.17 | tanq | booting already |
| 18:20.21 | tanq | that was fast |
| 18:20.35 | tanq | took 4 minutes to download and install |
| 18:20.41 | Bernardo | pole: mediaplayer2 can be installed with ipkg -nodeps, but I don't know if it is working |
| 18:20.59 | pole | Bernardo: umkay... any other suggestions for play stuff? |
| 18:21.02 | dan2003 | i have it installe don my c760, doesnt appear to work |
| 18:21.32 | dan2003 | it opens and lets u choose files but thts about it |
| 18:21.47 | Bernardo | xine? |
| 18:22.14 | dan2003 | libxine |
| 18:22.24 | Bernardo | I've managed to watch movies made on my cannon camera using mediaplayer2 with oz 3.3.3 |
| 18:22.28 | dan2003 | i beleive its what mediaplayer uses |
| 18:22.43 | Bernardo | I mean xine, the whole package, not just libxine. |
| 18:25.10 | Bernardo | there is also a package for mplayer, I think |
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| 18:30.24 | tanq | isnt adduser just adduser blah |
| 18:30.31 | tanq | i did addgroup tanq |
| 18:30.35 | tanq | adduser -g tanq tanq |
| 18:30.41 | tanq | but adduser isnt working |
| 18:33.57 | SGC|Work | try useradd |
| 18:38.58 | tanq | useradd doesnt exist |
| 18:39.01 | tanq | its adduser |
| 18:40.32 | SGC|Work | my bad, I added that to mine |
| 18:40.33 | SGC|Work | sorry |
| 18:41.31 | SGC|Work | hmm, adduser works for me |
| 18:42.27 | SGC|Work | maybe not |
| 18:42.47 | SGC|Work | I added a group/user, su'd to it, did whoami and it showed the user, exited out, now the user is gone |
| 18:48.54 | eworm | Is http://www.openzaurus.org/official/testing/3.3.5/ the rc or the release? |
| 18:50.45 | pole | this is weird... i installed sfcave-sdl and it runs if i run it from konsole, but if i run it from the launcher it doesnt run |
| 18:52.00 | SGC|Work | pole, did you ipkg-link add? |
| 18:52.12 | pole | SGC|Work: yes, i did |
| 18:52.16 | SGC|Work | ouch |
| 18:52.23 | tanq | SGC|Work: what did you type for adduser |
| 18:52.34 | SGC|Work | adduser -g scarter scarter |
| 18:52.39 | tanq | yeah doesnt work for me |
| 18:52.40 | tanq | heh |
| 18:52.41 | pole | that is why i see the icon on the launcher |
| 18:52.41 | tanq | pos |
| 18:52.53 | SGC|Work | it added momentarily |
| 18:52.58 | SGC|Work | then something deleted it |
| 18:53.02 | SGC|Work | apparently |
| 18:53.29 | tanq | keeps coming back with Usage: adduser [OPTIONS] <user_name> |
| 18:53.39 | tanq | like i'm not using it right or somethign |
| 18:53.39 | tuxoverflow | this ipkg-link add do when do you run this command |
| 18:53.53 | tuxoverflow | before or after install?? |
| 18:54.27 | pole | after you install |
| 18:54.53 | pole | all it does is symbolic link all files in the pacage to the root |
| 18:54.56 | *** join/#openzaurus SGC|Work (~SGC|Work@rchp4.rochester.ibm.com) |
| 18:55.28 | SGC|Work | wrong button |
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| 18:56.25 | tuxoverflow | im trying this with opie-wellenreiter now |
| 18:56.33 | tuxoverflow | im going t install to the sd card |
| 18:57.39 | tanq | I wish I could get OZ running on my Z |
| 18:57.54 | pole | is tere any way to see the kernel log messages? |
| 18:58.00 | tanq | dmesg? |
| 18:58.06 | tanq | /var/log/ |
| 18:58.11 | tanq | which messages |
| 18:58.31 | pole | i want to see why sfcave-sdl isnt launching |
| 18:58.36 | tuxoverflow | ive just tried ipkg-link add /usr/sbin/ipkg-link /mnt/card |
| 18:58.41 | tuxoverflow | is that right? |
| 18:58.52 | pole | ipkg link wellenwriter |
| 18:58.59 | pole | ipkg-link add wellenwriter |
| 18:59.21 | pole | VFS: Disk change detected on device mmcd(60,1) |
| 18:59.21 | pole | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.29 | pole | i am getting quite a few of those... is that a problem? |
| 19:00.10 | pole | where do i see the stderr/stdout from opie? |
| 19:00.31 | tuxoverflow | that hasnt worked |
| 19:00.32 | tuxoverflow | oh well |
| 19:00.44 | tuxoverflow | it says it linked but still doesnt work |
| 19:01.35 | pole | what are you running? |
| 19:01.59 | tuxoverflow | i did - ipkg-link add opie-wellenreiter |
| 19:02.34 | tuxoverflow | sl5500 oz 3.3.5 |
| 19:02.54 | pole | do you see the icon in the launcher? |
| 19:03.01 | tuxoverflow | is still have shared libaries problem libopiecore2.so.1 |
| 19:03.04 | tuxoverflow | yes |
| 19:03.08 | tuxoverflow | icon is there |
| 19:03.15 | tuxoverflow | im also trying from a prompt |
| 19:03.27 | pole | hmm... i never really got wellenreiter working... it was always flakey |
| 19:03.40 | tuxoverflow | it works great with 3.2 |
| 19:04.00 | tuxoverflow | im considering 3.2 again!! nightmare |
| 19:05.35 | tuxoverflow | i havent seen any benifits of 3.3.5 yet apart from cant run some of my apps! :-( |
| 19:07.00 | *** join/#openzaurus pixel_ (~pixel_@port107.ds1-boet.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 19:07.23 | pixel_ | whoot! online from my z via/ wifi! |
| 19:07.31 | pixel_ | ... cool ... |
| 19:07.57 | pixel_ | :-) |
| 19:09.57 | W8TVI | pixel_: I do that all the timne |
| 19:09.59 | W8TVI | time |
| 19:11.23 | pixel_ | well... its the first time ive got it working... |
| 19:11.36 | pixel_ | now i just need a decent browser |
| 19:12.02 | tuxoverflow | opera |
| 19:12.03 | tuxoverflow | works |
| 19:12.23 | pixel_ | hehe... i dont have it... |
| 19:12.37 | pixel_ | just flashed oz over it |
| 19:13.03 | pixel_ | should have pulled it off first i think |
| 19:15.22 | *** join/#openzaurus zakk (zakk@net-6621941-214.customer.corenap.com) |
| 19:22.11 | pixel_ | is it possible to get opera without the original flash ? |
| 19:22.21 | kergoth | 'original flash'? |
| 19:22.47 | kergoth | oh, yeah, you can rip it out of the rom without flashing it.. its written up somewhere.. |
| 19:23.33 | pixel_ | okay |
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| 19:26.32 | kathleen | 3.3.5 won't talk to my linksys wifi card :( |
| 19:29.13 | tanq | hey kergoth.. where is the initrd for the 5600 |
| 19:29.17 | tanq | can we bombard you anymore |
| 19:29.19 | tanq | heh |
| 19:30.00 | tanq | ah its there now |
| 19:33.42 | tanq | hopefully it works this time |
| 19:33.44 | kathleen | grumble, no wifi |
| 19:34.12 | tanq | are you sure the driver is loaded |
| 19:34.20 | tanq | or are they built in? |
| 19:34.31 | kergoth | kathleen: define "won't talk to" |
| 19:35.42 | tanq | /me crosses his fingers |
| 19:36.32 | pole | anyone get znester running? |
| 19:36.57 | kathleen | hmm, weird had to do a restart before it would see my wifi card |
| 19:37.18 | tanq | its not working again |
| 19:37.21 | tanq | ugh |
| 19:37.44 | tanq | so kergoth do you know of anyone that has 3.3.5 running on the 5600 |
| 19:38.15 | tanq | it just sits at the Sharp screen and doesnt boot up |
| 19:39.41 | kergoth | sounds like youdidnt flash the kernel |
| 19:39.45 | kergoth | there is no sharp screen in oz. |
| 19:39.50 | kergoth | it must be named zimage.bin |
| 19:40.02 | tanq | ahh not zImage |
| 19:40.09 | kergoth | zImage is 5500/5000d's flasher |
| 19:40.13 | tanq | sharp and tkrom use zImage without the .bin |
| 19:40.26 | kergoth | for 5600? no, they dont. |
| 19:40.33 | tanq | uh yeah they do |
| 19:40.33 | kergoth | they just boot using your old kernel so you didnt notice. |
| 19:40.37 | kergoth | no, they dont. |
| 19:40.38 | tanq | hmm |
| 19:40.45 | kathleen | my 5500 won't detect a change of cf cards, if i eject my wifi and pout in my microdrive it won;t recognize the microdive till i reset the z |
| 19:41.08 | kergoth | brb |
| 19:41.08 | tanq | zImage |
| 19:41.08 | tanq | with capital "I" (case sensitive). Linux kernel to be over-written |
| 19:41.08 | tanq | initrd.bin |
| 19:41.09 | tanq | rootfs to be over-written |
| 19:41.20 | tanq | dont you think it would say zImage.bin |
| 19:41.38 | tanq | but i'll try it... |
| 19:41.53 | kergoth | the updater.sh is what does the real work |
| 19:42.07 | kergoth | its conceivable their script looks for a different filename |
| 19:42.12 | kergoth | not altogether likely, but conceivable |
| 19:43.12 | tuxoverflow | no just zImage |
| 19:43.15 | tuxoverflow | thats it |
| 19:43.17 | tanq | well i do know this.. i tried last night and accidentally left it named zImage.bin |
| 19:43.22 | tanq | and it still didnt work |
| 19:43.48 | tanq | but it looks like there were changes between files.. soo... |
| 19:44.32 | kergoth | decoded tkcrom's updater.sh |
| 19:44.35 | kergoth | it does look for zImage |
| 19:45.17 | tanq | see.. now the updater only did one thing |
| 19:45.24 | tanq | since i renamed it to .bin |
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| 19:47.37 | kergoth | yep, you're right. what a stupid fucking inconsistency |
| 19:47.47 | kergoth | god sharp are dumbfucks |
| 19:48.11 | tanq | sharp doesnt use .bin either do they? |
| 19:48.19 | kergoth | .. |
| 19:48.25 | tanq | anyway 3.3.5 wont boot |
| 19:48.27 | kergoth | they do on c700, c750, c760 at a minimum |
| 19:48.36 | kergoth | if you see a sharp logo, you arent using an oz kernel |
| 19:48.48 | cyn | ooooooh i like stupid sharpisms |
| 19:48.50 | cyn | what i miss |
| 19:49.12 | kergoth | cyn: sharp using zImage on 5600's updater.sh but zimage.bin on the other updater.sh driven models |
| 19:49.19 | tanq | kergoth: its the default sharp screen that comes up before flashing any new rom |
| 19:49.20 | cyn | hah yeah |
| 19:49.31 | tanq | when you format a sharp screen comes up ... then it will start bootin |
| 19:49.32 | tanq | g |
| 19:49.33 | kergoth | taswell why didnt you say that? when does it hang then? |
| 19:49.50 | tanq | so its the kernel that isnt booting. ic an load sharp and tkrom just fine |
| 19:49.59 | AndersB | Hi. I asked this a bit earlier, but it seems some more people are online now. I flashed 3.3.5-rc1 to a 5000 yesterday, but must have gotten zImage wrong somehow. |
| 19:50.15 | kergoth | wrong in what way? |
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| 19:50.30 | kergoth | tanq: so it hangs when it goes to reboot onto the new kernel? |
| 19:50.30 | AndersB | Now it boots into 2.4.6, but with /lib/module/2.4.18.... |
| 19:50.37 | tanq | yes kergoth |
| 19:50.45 | kergoth | okay, thats much clearer |
| 19:50.52 | kergoth | it doesnt hang after any logo, it hangs after flashign when going to reboot |
| 19:50.55 | kergoth | report it to mickey |
| 19:51.02 | tanq | it sits at the Sharp wait for 2 minutes and the kernel never boots.. not even a kernel version |
| 19:51.21 | AndersB | So, now it seems I cannot get either usb networking or the CF card working. Is there anything I can do short of getting a CF card reader? |
| 19:51.26 | kergoth | wait. after the flash is over and it goes to reboot, it displays *ANOTHER* logo? |
| 19:51.30 | kergoth | or what? |
| 19:51.34 | kergoth | AndersB: nope |
| 19:52.11 | tanq | kergoth: after the Update you reset again and go back to maintenance.. THen you select Format.. Then a sharp screen comes up(no matter what rom you use) from there it should start booting.. |
| 19:52.21 | tanq | and it just hangs |
| 19:52.27 | kergoth | oh, i've never gone into maint a second time |
| 19:52.33 | kergoth | i always flash and reboot and boot into the image |
| 19:52.34 | tanq | you have to for the 5600 |
| 19:52.39 | kergoth | not mine. |
| 19:52.43 | tanq | you have a 5600? |
| 19:52.44 | kergoth | never had to |
| 19:52.45 | kergoth | yep |
| 19:52.49 | kergoth | havent used it in months |
| 19:52.50 | tanq | dude walk me through.. |
| 19:52.54 | kergoth | but i had oz on it back then |
| 19:52.57 | tanq | i was following instructions |
| 19:53.01 | kergoth | its been a while, let me wipe the dust off it |
| 19:53.07 | tanq | those are the instructions that sharp has. |
| 19:53.09 | kergoth | and figure out wher ei put it |
| 19:53.11 | kergoth | hmm |
| 19:53.15 | kergoth | brb |
| 19:53.58 | tanq | i've been using these instructions for sharp and tkrom |
| 19:54.00 | tanq | http://www.zaurus.com/dev/support/flashrom_update_sl5600v100.htm |
| 19:54.09 | tanq | i cant imagine why it would make a difference for OZ |
| 19:54.46 | kergoth | hm, it shouldnt. the last time i flashed was before that page existed, back when nobody knew how to update it |
| 19:54.57 | kergoth | got sharp to email me instructions for the japanese unit (b500) |
| 19:54.59 | kergoth | used those |
| 19:55.03 | kergoth | but yeah, it shouldnt matter |
| 19:55.07 | kergoth | let me test hte image on mine |
| 19:55.40 | tanq | in the meantime |
| 19:55.42 | tanq | http://www.gotnypd.com/misc/cnndice.mpeg |
| 20:10.23 | TheMasterMind1 | tanq: what is it |
| 20:13.20 | TheMasterMind1 | hahah |
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| 20:42.30 | Bernardo | I'm curious about some libs in the new oz build, like, for instance what is evas and which packages can make use of it? |
| 20:44.12 | zakk | enlightenment.org has documentation on evas |
| 20:44.15 | zakk | if it's the same evas |
| 20:45.32 | Bernardo | enlightenment? Ok, I'll check |
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| 20:46.31 | NoeticPenguin | wicked cool |
| 20:46.40 | zakk | (iirc it's some back end rendering stuff, I'm not familiar with any non-e 0.17 stuff that is related to it) |
| 20:47.04 | Bernardo | zakk: it seems to be for x11 hardware accel. |
| 20:47.10 | NoeticPenguin | hello from foos 5500 |
| 20:47.10 | zakk | yeah |
| 20:47.19 | Bernardo | so, x11 on the z? |
| 20:47.46 | Bernardo | I thought it was needed only for gpe |
| 20:48.08 | zakk | there is X11 for the z, I'm unaware of any OZ related X11 developments though |
| 20:48.16 | zakk | and it's possible I suppose that evas isn't limited to X11 |
| 20:48.36 | Bernardo | if opie-mediaplayer could use it... |
| 20:49.38 | zakk | iirc it was more for drawing windows nicely |
| 20:50.33 | Bernardo | ok... Now, I need to get freeswan with x509 support... If I get some time to get my buildroot working... |
| 20:50.51 | zakk | like specifying "here is a nice round clock on the desktop" not, "here is some nice content" |
| 20:53.02 | Bernardo | aqpkg is so fast now... |
| 20:53.11 | Bernardo | thanks guys! great release! |
| 20:54.29 | *** join/#openzaurus Pixel_ (~chatzilla@port107.ds1-boet.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 20:55.53 | Pixel_ | Anybody got wifi working with WEP over an AirPort Base station ? |
| 20:56.08 | foo | nope |
| 20:56.40 | Bernardo | yep, but with a smc barricade g station |
| 20:56.51 | Pixel_ | how about just wep ? |
| 20:57.51 | Pixel_ | Was it straightforward, or is there a trick ? |
| 20:57.56 | Bernardo | Pixel_: check the readme... I use wep with my smc (and my card is a sandisk connect, the same as the netgear 701) |
| 20:58.03 | Pixel_ | i've spent the last 2 hours trying to get this danm think to work |
| 20:58.12 | Pixel_ | which readme ? |
| 20:58.16 | Bernardo | The trick was just doing a modprobe hostap_crypt_wep |
| 20:58.32 | Bernardo | the one for 3.3.5, or you're using a different release? |
| 20:58.41 | Pixel_ | using 3.3.5 |
| 20:58.42 | Pixel_ | :D |
| 20:59.12 | Pixel_ | but i compiled it myself earlier |
| 20:59.18 | Bernardo | So you need to read the README at openzaurus.org... |
| 20:59.22 | Bernardo | :) |
| 20:59.35 | Pixel_ | link ? |
| 20:59.47 | Bernardo | Basically, you need to edit /etc/modules so that hostap_crypt_wep is loaded |
| 21:00.02 | tanq | kergoth: did you find anything out? |
| 21:00.16 | Bernardo | http://openzaurus.org/official/testing/3.3.5/SL5500+SL5000/README.FIRST |
| 21:00.30 | Bernardo | after that, wep should work |
| 21:00.55 | Bernardo | if you can't wait for a reboot, do a "modprobe hostap_crypt_wep" and check if wep now works |
| 21:00.58 | Pixel_ | thank you. |
| 21:01.21 | dan2003 | does wep slow z down noticeably? |
| 21:01.45 | tanq | i would imagine that 802.11i will |
| 21:01.52 | Bernardo | not on my 5500, and 3.3.5 already feels faster than 3.3.3 |
| 21:02.10 | Bernardo | tanq: for that one we'll need a radius server, no? |
| 21:03.14 | Bernardo | I now want to get a vpn working, and since my fw supports ipsec with freeswan+x509, I'd like to get that on the z |
| 21:10.05 | Bernardo | Pixel_: any luck with wep? |
| 21:13.47 | Pixel_ | Workion it it |
| 21:13.50 | Pixel_ | Working on it |
| 21:13.54 | Pixel_ | danm that messed up |
| 21:14.07 | Pixel_ | but... no.. |
| 21:14.36 | Disconnect | kergoth: ..and if you send that email relatively quickly (next 10 mins or so) I can do up that mapping as well |
| 21:15.30 | Bernardo | Pixel_: what kind of key you have defined on your ap? a string? |
| 21:16.06 | tanq | mapping |
| 21:16.07 | tanq | ? |
| 21:16.36 | Pixel_ | Yes |
| 21:16.53 | tanq | Bernardo: its the string that is generated from the router |
| 21:16.54 | Pixel_ | but the Airport software gave me an hexstring |
| 21:17.23 | tanq | err your wifi access point |
| 21:17.28 | Disconnect | tanq: the keyboard handling updates. he's doing the (according to him) simple code changes, I'm doing the grunt work to populate the tables. |
| 21:17.36 | Bernardo | Pixel_: try on the net applet entering the encription key as "s:string" |
| 21:17.51 | Bernardo | instead of the hexstring |
| 21:18.15 | tanq | one of these days I will get to use OZ |
| 21:18.16 | tanq | heh |
| 21:18.59 | tanq | has anyone tried the X11 rom? |
| 21:19.37 | Pixel_ | Which net applet ? the one with the antenna thing ? |
| 21:20.47 | Bernardo | no, in the settings tab |
| 21:21.28 | tanq | mani should have gotten the sl 5500 |
| 21:21.30 | Pixel_ | oki |
| 21:21.37 | tanq | this 5600 is limited |
| 21:21.46 | tanq | on roms |
| 21:22.41 | Pixel_ | still no dice |
| 21:23.12 | Pixel_ | :( |
| 21:23.22 | Pixel_ | It does support 128 bit wep, right ? |
| 21:24.43 | Bernardo | yes, I am using it. brb |
| 21:26.22 | tanq | interesting.. |
| 21:26.38 | tanq | apparentyl the Zaurus B500 uses the same kernel as the 5600 |
| 21:27.19 | Twiun | afaik the hardware is virtually identical |
| 21:30.40 | tanq | i'm gonna try this again .... |
| 21:30.44 | tanq | just for fun |
| 21:30.44 | tanq | heh |
| 21:31.08 | Twiun | want me to get ibot to whip you as well? |
| 21:31.22 | Pixel_ | sweet |
| 21:31.38 | Pixel_ | took my basestation offline for 1 min |
| 21:31.45 | Pixel_ | but i did not loose the irc connection |
| 21:31.54 | Pixel_ | (i think) |
| 21:36.52 | enki | anyone here have some experience cross-compiling x apps for the Z? |
| 21:37.22 | enki | im interested in getting into it ... and have some questions, as the faqs out there are kinda lacking, and my expertise on these things isnt all that.. |
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| 21:40.30 | Bernardo | Pixel_: I have wep with 128bits encryption working here... maybe a reboot is needed. |
| 21:40.42 | Pixel_ | in progress... |
| 21:40.44 | Pixel_ | :D |
| 21:41.37 | Pixel_ | nah... no dice.. |
| 21:41.55 | Pixel_ | it's really sad, because it works when i turn of wep.. |
| 21:42.19 | Bernardo | open a console, and do a iwconfig |
| 21:42.27 | Pixel_ | been there |
| 21:42.30 | Pixel_ | looks right |
| 21:43.10 | Bernardo | does it show the correct hexstring for the key? |
| 21:43.20 | Pixel_ | yes |
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| 21:43.37 | Bernardo | number of packets with wrong crypt? |
| 21:43.49 | Pixel_ | eh ? |
| 21:44.18 | Bernardo | sorry, forgot hostap 0.0.3 doesn't show that |
| 21:44.30 | Bernardo | was comparing with my laptop card (prism54) |
| 21:45.00 | Bernardo | wait, hostap shows them (rx invalid crypt) |
| 21:46.06 | Bernardo | and what mode does iwconfig show the wlan0 is? managed? |
| 21:47.06 | Pixel_ | wait 2 secs |
| 21:47.19 | Pixel_ | After the reboot, it forgot the key.. |
| 21:47.59 | Bernardo | is the module hostap_crypt_wep loaded? |
| 21:48.14 | Pixel_ | it's in the /etc/modules |
| 21:48.21 | Pixel_ | but how do i chekc if it's loaded ? |
| 21:48.57 | Bernardo | lsmod |
| 21:49.33 | Pixel_ | loaded yes |
| 21:50.01 | Bernardo | ok, so now launch the net applet again, and check in the config for wlan0 |
| 21:51.22 | Pixel_ | it's really annoying that everytime i eject or insert a card, the hotplug script writes terminal data all over my screen. very rude of it! |
| 21:51.43 | Bernardo | here it doesn't do that... |
| 21:51.56 | Pixel_ | Maybe it's because it's a C750 |
| 21:52.22 | Bernardo | ok... I have a 5500 |
| 21:53.45 | Pixel_ | anyways; rx invalid crypt:0 mode Managed |
| 21:53.54 | Bernardo | should be ok |
| 21:53.59 | Bernardo | ps ax | grep dhcp? |
| 21:54.27 | Pixel_ | what does Security mode: restricted mean ? |
| 21:55.42 | Bernardo | That it isn't a shared key |
| 21:55.46 | Bernardo | (I think) |
| 21:55.59 | Pixel_ | ps ax | grep dhcp? gave 2 lines... the lower "grep dhcp" the first one="udhcp -b -p /var/run/udhcp.wlan0.pid -i -wlan0 -h op |
| 21:57.25 | Bernardo | looks ok... ifconfig? |
| 21:57.55 | Pixel_ | what am i looking for ? |
| 21:59.04 | Bernardo | I'm groping in the dark, now... Just for a ip address for wlan0, or something strange there |
| 21:59.20 | Pixel_ | no ip.. |
| 21:59.25 | Pixel_ | noting... |
| 21:59.29 | Pixel_ | grr... :D |
| 21:59.41 | Pixel_ | bugger |
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| 22:00.13 | omin0us | anyone want to mabey help me out with Wellenreiter on OZ/Opie? |
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| 22:01.23 | Bernardo | omin0us: still haven't got it to work with 3.3.5 |
| 22:01.40 | zakk | is there a list of what's changed between the rc1 and the actual release? |
| 22:01.43 | Bernardo | Pixel_: time to check dmesg. Eject the card, insert it again, and check dmesg |
| 22:01.47 | brokenchaos | Anyone gotten 3.3.5 to work on a 5600? |
| 22:01.56 | Bernardo | zakk: wellenreiter worked for me on rc1 |
| 22:02.02 | zakk | er |
| 22:02.17 | zakk | I'm not concerned with wellenreiter |
| 22:02.21 | zakk | I don't even know what it is :P |
| 22:02.25 | Bernardo | :) |
| 22:02.36 | Bernardo | wifi scanner |
| 22:02.43 | zakk | oh |
| 22:02.44 | zakk | interesting |
| 22:02.51 | zakk | I should try it some time |
| 22:02.59 | zakk | after I get my freaking wifi card back |
| 22:03.17 | zakk | or if I can find some place selling the el-cheapo netgear one that doesn't block the ports |
| 22:03.18 | Bernardo | what model? |
| 22:03.29 | zakk | I think it was ma701 |
| 22:03.32 | brokenchaos | I really wish 3.3.5 would flash properly to my 5600... |
| 22:03.33 | Pixel_ | am i looking for somehting special ? |
| 22:03.35 | Bernardo | I have a sandisk connect, which is the same as that |
| 22:03.40 | Pixel_ | nothing suspissios for me |
| 22:03.44 | Bernardo | Pixel_: just the output from hostap |
| 22:03.56 | zakk | there are plenty of places that sell it online but none that have it as cheaply as the last place I saw it (20 bucks) |
| 22:04.13 | Bernardo | that is dirty cheap... |
| 22:04.17 | zakk | actually |
| 22:04.23 | zakk | I think it may have been 30 |
| 22:04.24 | zakk | in any case |
| 22:04.26 | zakk | yeah |
| 22:04.29 | zakk | I think it was refurbished |
| 22:04.30 | Bernardo | my sandisk (with the pcmcia adapter) cost about 100 (116 euro) |
| 22:04.35 | zakk | wow |
| 22:04.49 | Bernardo | and was the cheapest cf card here |
| 22:07.31 | brokenchaos | Wow... My 5600 is stalled trying to boot up, and now it seems to have turned it's screen off and the e-mail led is blinking... Not normal, as far as I know... |
| 22:08.07 | omin0us | Bernardo: how do i get wellenreiter to work |
| 22:08.13 | omin0us | i'm using OZ 3.2 |
| 22:08.23 | Bernardo | in 3.2 it worked out of the box... |
| 22:08.36 | omin0us | and have an Ambicom WL1100C prism based wifi card |
| 22:08.41 | Bernardo | All I needed was to remove the wlan-ng drivers and install the hostap ones |
| 22:08.47 | omin0us | like what settings do i need |
| 22:08.54 | omin0us | oh, well how do i do that? |
| 22:09.10 | omin0us | cause Kismet works just fine out of the box on 3.2 |
| 22:09.16 | brokenchaos | Guess I'll go back to a Sharp based ROM for now, until OZ works. |
| 22:09.42 | Bernardo | brokenchaos: did you do a hw reset after flashing? |
| 22:10.03 | Bernardo | omin0us: use aqpkg, remove wlan-mg modules, then add hostap modules |
| 22:10.18 | brokenchaos | Yeah. Flashed it using the standard 5600 way, and then opend up the battery case, and hit the reset button with the stylus. |
| 22:10.52 | omin0us | Bernardo: what it under on the list? wavelan-modules? |
| 22:10.56 | brokenchaos | Several times actually. I've tried flashing it at least... 3 times. |
| 22:11.14 | omin0us | wait, hostap-modules are already installed |
| 22:11.25 | *** join/#openzaurus qoreqyas (sgrewe@fno.rd.nar.nu) |
| 22:11.28 | qoreqyas | hi |
| 22:12.25 | Bernardo | omin0us: it should work now... |
| 22:12.29 | omin0us | hmm |
| 22:12.34 | omin0us | it won't detect anything |
| 22:12.40 | Bernardo | brokenchaos: and zImage is called zImage or zImage.bin? |
| 22:12.40 | omin0us | yet, kismet will |
| 22:12.54 | Bernardo | try the settings for wellenreiter |
| 22:13.26 | brokenchaos | zImage. |
| 22:13.39 | *** join/#openzaurus Zaurino (~dade@195.62.234.69) |
| 22:14.05 | Bernardo | brokenchaos: I have a 5500, so I don't know what else can go wrong on a 5600... maybe somebody else knows |
| 22:14.29 | brokenchaos | Bernardo: It flashes the kernel fine, and then during the initrd flash, it seems fine, until the end when it stops before the 100% mark (where the kernel progess went to). |
| 22:15.19 | omin0us | Bernardo: i have these setting in wellenreiter, wlan0 for interface name and hostap for device type |
| 22:15.23 | Bernardo | that might be a bad initrd... might. I don't know for sure |
| 22:15.30 | qoreqyas | when i have my wlan0 set to monitor mode, iam getting the error "Invalid argument" when trying to set the channel, any hints on that? |
| 22:15.35 | Bernardo | omin0us: that should work, it used to work for me |
| 22:15.40 | omin0us | hmm |
| 22:15.42 | omin0us | weird |
| 22:15.47 | Bernardo | qoreqyas: I am getting that too |
| 22:16.06 | brokenchaos | Bernardo: Yeah, but the RC1 did the same thing, except stopped about halfway. |
| 22:16.30 | qoreqyas | Bernardo: do you know why? |
| 22:16.53 | omin0us | what version of Wellenreiter did you use? |
| 22:17.15 | Bernardo | qoreqyas: I think this version of hostap doesn't let you change channel when in monitor mode |
| 22:17.20 | Bernardo | omin0us: just a sec |
| 22:17.43 | Bernardo | got to go, I'll check tomorrow... but it's the latest one, I think |
| 22:19.45 | qoreqyas | Bernardo: sic :/ |
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| 22:21.39 | brokenchaos | Well, anyone got experinece with OZ and the 5600? |
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| 22:24.23 | dan2003 | when i launch opieplayer2 i get an error in consoel, failed to load sound output plugin <oss>, do i need to install sumin? |
| 22:25.41 | omin0us | Bernardo: i just installed the lastest one. Wellenreiter 0.9.9, before i had been using 0.9.3 |
| 22:26.03 | omin0us | now when i go to configure no interfaces are listed on the interface dropdown |
| 22:26.05 | omin0us | :( |
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| 22:36.41 | qoreqyas | omin0us: 23:20:36 -!- Bernardo [~jbbrs@213.58.96.193] has quit ["KVIrc 3.0.0-beta1 "Eve's Avatar""] |
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| 22:40.29 | tanq | oh kick ass |
| 22:40.36 | tanq | you can now rotate anything in tKrom |
| 22:46.01 | ljp | by turning the pda? |
| 22:46.57 | W8TVI | you can even turn it upside down |
| 22:46.59 | W8TVI | :P |
| 22:50.03 | ljp | ad it you look at it in a mirror, you can reverse the display! |
| 22:50.12 | ljp | s/ad/and |
| 22:50.14 | *** join/#openzaurus tuxoverflow (~wayne@host81-152-40-93.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) |
| 22:50.35 | tuxoverflow | is the guy still in here who uses the kompany roms?? |
| 23:15.27 | ljp | dont know. dont use them, personally |
| 23:16.20 | omin0us | the Kompany roms are nice |
| 23:16.23 | omin0us | i used them for a while |
| 23:16.30 | omin0us | very stable |
| 23:17.00 | omin0us | but i like using the 64-0 memory split with OZ |
| 23:17.08 | omin0us | so i switched back :) |
| 23:19.52 | omin0us | can someone help me out with wellenreiter on OZ/Opie please? |
| 23:20.53 | foo | what is wellenreiter? |
| 23:21.08 | ljp | mickeyl is the wellenreiter guy |
| 23:21.11 | foo | omin0us: whats so nice about them ? |
| 23:21.34 | ljp | tr as wave rider |
| 23:21.40 | ljp | its a sniffer |
| 23:22.22 | foo | interesting. |
| 23:22.33 | omin0us | mickeyl isn't responding now |
| 23:22.39 | omin0us | he is away |
| 23:22.45 | tuxoverflow | ive tried to get it working to |
| 23:22.55 | tuxoverflow | no joy at all im afraid |
| 23:23.18 | tuxoverflow | i used wellenreiter with oz 3.2 fine |
| 23:23.46 | omin0us | hmm |
| 23:23.47 | W8TVI | ibot, wellenreiter |
| 23:23.49 | | wellenreiter is, like, http://www.wellenreiter.net/ |
| 23:23.53 | omin0us | what version of wellenreiter? |
| 23:24.20 | tuxoverflow | ill try this version on the site |
| 23:24.34 | omin0us | right now i have 0.9.3 installed |
| 23:24.45 | tuxoverflow | is it working?? |
| 23:25.05 | tuxoverflow | on oz 3.3.5 |
| 23:25.09 | omin0us | i tried 0.9.9 and when i go to configure there are no interface names listed. eg: wlan0, etc |
| 23:25.17 | omin0us | i'm using 3.2 |
| 23:25.24 | omin0us | and no, 0.9.3 isn't working |
| 23:25.31 | omin0us | http://www.zaurus.com/dev/board/index.php?act=ST&f=3&t=7127&st=0#entry45086 |
| 23:25.38 | omin0us | there is all my output from 0.9.3 |
| 23:25.44 | W8TVI | wellenreiter works on 3.2, 3.3.4, and 3.3.5rc1 |
| 23:25.54 | Twiun | omin0us: seeing as mickeyl is the guy doing the 3.3.5 release && the wellenreiter author, give 3.3.5 a try ;) |
| 23:26.06 | omin0us | i tried 3.3.5 |
| 23:26.18 | omin0us | and there are other problems i have with it |
| 23:26.24 | omin0us | so i just switched back to 3.2 |
| 23:26.28 | omin0us | as it gets the job done |
| 23:26.30 | Twiun | please do report them so they can be fixed |
| 23:26.45 | W8TVI | omin0us, where did you install wellenreiter to? |
| 23:26.56 | omin0us | well, for one, when i plug it into the cradle, XP askes for new usb drivers |
| 23:26.58 | tuxoverflow | yes suppose ill put 3.3.5 on and work from there |
| 23:27.08 | omin0us | i am using 64-0 |
| 23:27.12 | tuxoverflow | being to impatiente |
| 23:27.13 | omin0us | so i installed to root |
| 23:27.13 | tuxoverflow | ha |
| 23:28.06 | tuxoverflow | did it work root?? |
| 23:28.17 | omin0us | no |
| 23:28.22 | omin0us | it hasn't worked at all |
| 23:28.26 | omin0us | i've said that already |
| 23:28.29 | omin0us | http://www.zaurus.com/dev/board/index.php?act=ST&f=3&t=7127&st=0#entry45086 |
| 23:28.41 | omin0us | go look there and you'll see my console output from running it |
| 23:28.41 | W8TVI | omin0us, use a memory split where you have some ram disk |
| 23:28.48 | W8TVI | and install it to ram |
| 23:29.06 | omin0us | why does that affect it? |
| 23:29.32 | W8TVI | maybe it was ment to be installed to ram? |
| 23:29.49 | W8TVI | and thats where I have installed it, and it works just fine |
| 23:29.51 | W8TVI | about to execute 'wellenreiterd wlan0 3 &' ... |
| 23:29.52 | W8TVI | wellenretierd: No such file or directory |
| 23:30.04 | omin0us | ok |
| 23:30.06 | omin0us | i'll try that |
| 23:30.07 | W8TVI | that is NOT a problem with wellenreiter |
| 23:30.12 | omin0us | ok |
| 23:30.20 | W8TVI | still report it as a bug |
| 23:30.40 | W8TVI | there could be something about installing to root that messes something up |
| 23:30.48 | omin0us | also, why would 3.3.5 ask for new drivers when put in the cradle so that i can use usb networking |
| 23:31.00 | W8TVI | becouse it looks like a new device |
| 23:31.03 | omin0us | cause then i can't SSH into my Z |
| 23:31.09 | tuxoverflow | im flashing back to 3.3.5 im sure program bugs will get resolved soon |
| 23:31.10 | W8TVI | just reinstall the drivers |
| 23:31.11 | omin0us | so where do i get the drivers at? |
| 23:31.12 | tuxoverflow | :-) |
| 23:31.28 | W8TVI | omin0us, they come on the CD that came with your zarus |
| 23:31.35 | omin0us | i know that, but i lost my CD |
| 23:31.40 | omin0us | i looked for it. |
| 23:31.54 | W8TVI | well check on the zaurus.com website |
| 23:31.57 | omin0us | well, i get my c760 on wednesday, so im sure my 5500 will be shadowed soon |
| 23:32.02 | omin0us | lol |
| 23:32.10 | dan2003 | did some1 say ealrier they had qt embedded running on z? |
| 23:32.44 | ljp | ? |
| 23:33.10 | dan2003 | like hours ago |
| 23:33.44 | tuxoverflow | would you recomend 3.2 or 3.3.5 at the moment |
| 23:33.57 | W8TVI | use 3.2 |
| 23:34.05 | W8TVI | that or... |
| 23:34.40 | W8TVI | the 3.3.4 at http://www.opie.us/opie/devZone.php/initrds/OZ-Opie-1.02/ |
| 23:35.15 | W8TVI | its basicly 3.2 with opie 1.0.2 installed |
| 23:35.15 | W8TVI | works nicely for me |
| 23:35.16 | W8TVI | and it works with wellenreiter |
| 23:35.20 | omin0us | why not use 3.3.5? |
| 23:35.36 | omin0us | what memory split should i use then? |
| 23:35.49 | ljp | its the same opie, th eopie.us uses a stable kernel |
| 23:35.50 | W8TVI | becouse its not 3.3.5, its 3.3.5rc1 |
| 23:35.58 | omin0us | oh, well thats true |
| 23:36.11 | omin0us | what memory split though? |
| 23:36.15 | tanq | all i want for christmas is OZ on my 5600 |
| 23:36.21 | W8TVI | I use the 40ram, 24storage |
| 23:36.32 | omin0us | foo: save up. thats what i did |
| 23:36.46 | omin0us | and i'm only 17, so i'm sure you can do it too. just took me a while |
| 23:37.30 | W8TVI | I'm 23 and out of work... :( |
| 23:37.48 | W8TVI | no c760 for me |
| 23:37.55 | Twiun | W8TVI: and probably a few debts hanging over you from when you were 17 ;) |
| 23:38.18 | dan2003 | very nice but there is so little support for it being a jap model |
| 23:38.25 | dan2003 | and so new |
| 23:38.35 | dan2003 | (relativly) |
| 23:38.43 | omin0us | well, right now i just work at a computer repair shop after school and i'm saving for collage |
| 23:38.50 | W8TVI | Twiun, nope |
| 23:38.58 | W8TVI | my car is free and clear |
| 23:38.59 | omin0us | but i took what money i'd be spending and saved up enough to order a c760 |
| 23:39.09 | kergoth | dan2003: support from whom? |
| 23:39.09 | omin0us | and it gets here on wednesday, so i'm excited |
| 23:39.11 | dan2003 | whats is the internal speaker like on the 5500/5600 ? |
| 23:39.19 | omin0us | 5500 has no speaker |
| 23:39.21 | omin0us | has a buzzer |
| 23:39.22 | kergoth | dan2003: 5500 is a buzzer, not a speaker |
| 23:39.23 | kergoth | piezo |
| 23:39.24 | dan2003 | oh |
| 23:39.25 | omin0us | and that sounds like ass |
| 23:39.36 | W8TVI | got a '91 GMC Jimmy 4-door, 4x4 |
| 23:39.47 | dan2003 | kergoth, generally, most stuuf on the net is for 5500/5600 |
| 23:40.00 | tanq | ahhh so he lives |
| 23:40.04 | omin0us | heh, i got a 89' buick skylark POS that i inherited from my grandma when she died |
| 23:40.44 | kergoth | dan2003: well, thats not support so much as community |
| 23:40.56 | tanq | kergoth: so have u had a chance to look at the 5600 rom yet or were u busy having a real life? |
| 23:41.06 | tanq | ;) |
| 23:41.23 | kergoth | busy avoiding being productive |
| 23:41.31 | tanq | ahh.... good thing to do.. |
| 23:41.34 | tanq | heh |
| 23:41.43 | tanq | i need to get out of the house |
| 23:41.53 | tanq | i think i'm gonna go to burger king |
| 23:41.58 | omin0us | heh |
| 23:42.02 | tanq | i realize i have no food |
| 23:42.16 | tanq | i just ate ham a yogurt and some maraschino cherries |
| 23:42.34 | tanq | thats all i have eaten the whole day |
| 23:42.42 | tanq | a whopper with cheese sounds good about now |
| 23:42.55 | omin0us | is it gonna hurt much if i flash to 3.3.4 58-6, and install wellenreiter to RAM and then move /opt, /home, and /root to /mnt/cf? |
| 23:43.08 | omin0us | and just create symlinks for them? |
| 23:43.30 | torment | that just may work |
| 23:43.37 | torment | let me know how it goes ;) |
| 23:43.54 | omin0us | turkey sandwich++, thanksgiving leftovers are the greatest |
| 23:44.06 | omin0us | torment: ok, i'll try it out and see. |
| 23:47.57 | Cameron | ljp: Z -> 5.1 surround sound -> Really just Stereo output, no? |
| 23:48.30 | omin0us | i would think that would be the case |
| 23:50.51 | ljp | cameron: shhhhhh |
| 23:53.04 | omin0us | could someone be kind enough to zip up the usb drivers from the 5500 cd and DCC them to me? |
