00:00.41 | eworm | What's the development status of Kernel 2.4.21? |
00:00.57 | kergoth | its missing SD/MMC and a few minor bits here and there, for collie |
00:01.01 | kergoth | it doesnt support any other models yet |
00:02.30 | eworm | Does the touchscreen work properly now? |
00:02.35 | W8TVI | sence I cant run anything off of the sd card, I might as well make it so I can read it on my windows box |
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00:02.53 | kergoth | eworm: damn close, and i can easily improve it further |
00:03.04 | kergoth | eworm: i have a shitload of filtering modules and stuff for tslib |
00:06.12 | eworm | Oh, one thing to oz 3.3.5: Where do I find iptables-modules? |
00:06.24 | kergoth | dunno, shouldve ended up in the feeds |
00:06.28 | kergoth | pester mickey |
00:08.32 | eworm | ok, thanx |
00:08.50 | eworm | and n8 :) |
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00:16.42 | scribe | Hey guys |
00:16.53 | scribe | Anyone have any info on GPE om the Zaurus? |
00:17.14 | scribe | s/om/s//on/ |
00:18.05 | mickeyl | no more than a download location |
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01:50.03 | trappist | # mkfs.ext2 /dev/mmcda1 |
01:50.03 | trappist | mke2fs 1.33 (21-Apr-2003) |
01:50.04 | trappist | mkfs.ext2: No such device or address while trying to determine filesystem size |
01:50.09 | trappist | brand new sd card |
01:50.17 | trappist | am I missing something? |
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02:08.47 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
02:10.48 | trappist | 3 lines to go away? |
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02:14.54 | godsmoke | trappist: it's sad, isn't it? |
02:15.14 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
02:15.40 | godsmoke | of course it is ... but chances are, it's a script (for the "away" feature) |
02:15.52 | kergoth | yep |
02:15.53 | Pendalar | probably using XDCC script for xchat2 |
02:15.54 | godsmoke | and then he/she decided to change their nic |
02:16.04 | Pendalar | which is buggy and likes to announce about 3-4 times at once |
02:16.10 | godsmoke | heh |
02:16.57 | godsmoke | at least it's not "Illusion" or whatever that thing is called that everyone uses with mIRC ... it colors everything, every time the person gets voice or oped, it says thanks in like 10 colors ... it pisses the shit out of me |
02:17.21 | godsmoke | I usually kick those people where I have ops |
02:17.25 | godsmoke | ban them for 30 minutes |
02:18.28 | Twiun | yeah, the advantage of only using the nick change is that no further querying is required by others to know you're not there |
02:18.46 | Pendalar | well XDCC is one of the few to only scripts for xchat2 that does auto op'ing in channels |
02:18.51 | kergoth | yep. and /whois already shows your idle time |
02:18.51 | Twiun | or reminding '... is auto away, LOG is ON...' blerh |
02:19.00 | godsmoke | kergoth: depends on the server |
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02:19.59 | godsmoke | is anybody else here pissed off by livejournal and their stupid setup? |
02:20.40 | godsmoke | I'm trying to get my girlfriend to use a simple php/mysql blog I set up on my server ... I think livejournal has just died as any kind of decent resource |
02:21.15 | kergoth | heh, have never used it myself |
02:21.38 | godsmoke | well, I have an account I barely ever use ... and I just hate their restrictions |
02:21.46 | godsmoke | you have to pay to be able to grab an rss feed |
02:22.07 | godsmoke | I can write a script in about 2 minutes to build one for me |
02:22.09 | trappist | kergoth: IMHO /nicking for away is also useless, since freenode has a perfectly good away system |
02:22.25 | Pendalar | that would be fine if you were bound to one network |
02:22.25 | kergoth | not useless. tab completing me immediately tells you i'm not here. |
02:22.29 | trappist | most people on most of the channels you're on don't care when you get up to go do something |
02:22.34 | kergoth | which isnt true of a normal /away |
02:22.48 | trappist | but if they do care a /whois will hook em right up |
02:23.03 | kergoth | 20:18 < Twiun> yeah, the advantage of only using the nick change is that no further querying is required by others to know |
02:23.06 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
02:23.37 | trappist | I suppose a nick change is better than a /me in that it doesn't trip the activity flag so I go see what's going on on that channel |
02:23.50 | kergoth | yep, exactly |
02:24.03 | trappist | I still prefer /away though :) |
02:24.13 | kergoth | personal preference |
02:24.18 | godsmoke | heh, that and also only people who are around at that moment will know you're away |
02:24.22 | trappist | right tool for the job |
02:24.25 | godsmoke | (when using a /me) |
02:24.34 | kergoth | i think we can all equally despise /me |
02:24.56 | godsmoke | yes, except when one is bored, and is speaking in the 3rd person |
02:25.06 | trappist | I wish xchat and other of its ilk would drop the broadcast away feature |
02:25.20 | kergoth | MG_Tak: buildroot builds packages. oebuild builds packages. |
02:25.38 | kergoth | MG_Tak: the goal wasnt the issue, but the implementation and ease of use and available functionality in that scope |
02:26.51 | MG_Tak | kergoth: I realized both of them did the same thing. But from the name, I always got the impression that it was more a "create a distribution" than just a single package. At least buildroot sounded rather vast. |
02:27.05 | kergoth | oebuild builds an individual package |
02:27.15 | kergoth | oemake builds a set of packages, following interpackage dependencies |
02:27.25 | kergoth | oemake is more like a 'make' in buildroot than anything else |
02:27.51 | MG_Tak | Sounds nifty. |
02:27.54 | kergoth | note that OE's tools and package metadata are split |
02:28.02 | kergoth | buildroot was the it all globbed together in one big pile |
02:33.40 | MG_Tak | is there such a thing as right-click in konq? |
02:35.45 | kergoth | yep |
02:35.50 | kergoth | its not bad, though i'm more of a vim guy |
02:35.52 | kergoth | heh |
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02:38.17 | MG_Tak | not the easiest thing |
02:38.37 | MG_Tak | later |
02:38.37 | kergoth`bbl | treke|ho1e: pango builds now :) |
02:38.41 | treke|ho1e | cool |
02:39.02 | W8TVI | Linked /mnt/ram/home/QtPalmtop/opera/buttons/opback.png to /home/QtPalmtop/opera/buttons/opback.png |
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02:39.03 | W8TVI | Failed to link /mnt/ram/home/QtPalmtop/opera/buttons/opback.png to /home/QtPalmtop/opera/buttons/opback.png |
02:39.19 | W8TVI | its funny |
02:39.31 | W8TVI | the first part it says it links it |
02:39.40 | W8TVI | then it tried to link it again |
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03:14.30 | darien_ | anyone here have the 760? |
03:16.53 | darien_ | anyone here at all? |
03:16.58 | W8TVI | no |
03:17.46 | darien_ | ok who can help me fix my wi-fi |
03:18.06 | darien_ | i'm used to the prism drivers and this new hostap stuff is killing me |
03:23.57 | omin0us | what is libgcc_s.so.1? |
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04:15.36 | trappist | how do you go about setting file associations for opie? |
04:17.09 | treke|ho1e | application .desktop files list what type of files they can handle |
04:19.06 | trappist | thanks |
04:22.37 | trappist | ok I guess it's a mime type issue |
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04:44.17 | trappist | I came all the way over to this channel because the activity flag was tripped and I wanted to see what was going on, and it's somebody doing /back with xchat |
04:44.44 | treke|ho1e | hope it wasnt a long walk |
04:47.31 | trappist | alt-7 |
04:48.00 | trappist | plus my verbose rant about broadcast away and back messages |
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05:27.23 | vvff | Whee. 2.6.0 here I come. Looks like they fixed my ide-scsi problems... |
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07:35.54 | Shtoink | Anyone around? |
07:35.54 | Shtoink | Anyone here? |
07:36.15 | Shtoink | Doh |
07:36.33 | Shtoink | Got lagged there a sec and wasn't sure if I typed the one line or not |
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08:20.16 | zaurin | ha this is my zaurus 3.3.5 |
08:20.23 | zaurin | on 5600 |
08:20.26 | zaurin | yeah |
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09:46.49 | Zaurino | how can simulate the tab key with a application key lancher with opie ? |
09:46.57 | Zaurino | (qtopia does that) |
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10:00.55 | marvin42 | hi |
10:01.39 | marvin42 | does anyone knows when /official/experimental/collie/3.3.6-pre1-2.4.18-gcc3 is going to be filled? |
10:02.12 | HCl[pda] | does anyone know an lftp ikg that works with the non-gcc libc? |
10:03.47 | mickeyl | what is the non-gcc libc? |
10:04.32 | HCl[pda] | eh, hold on |
10:04.55 | HCl[pda] | 2.2.4 |
10:05.18 | mickeyl | "non-gcc" ? |
10:05.21 | mickeyl | i don't understand that |
10:05.48 | mickeyl | or do you mean gcc2-libc as opposed to gcc3-libc ? |
10:06.01 | mickeyl | (e.g. 2.2.4 as opposed to 2.3.2) |
10:08.28 | ljp | non-gcc libc is one compiled by a MS compiler |
10:08.37 | marvin42 | mickeyl: don't know if you read my question above, I just wanted to know if you are going to upload pre1 today... |
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10:09.03 | Zaurino | how can simulate the tab key with a application key lancher with opie ? |
10:09.03 | Zaurino | (qtopia does that) |
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10:13.18 | Piete | 'lo |
10:15.29 | mickeyl | marvin42: i read it and decided to ignore because i don't know the answer :) |
10:15.46 | mickeyl | that means... most likely not today |
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10:17.38 | zaurin | ok |
10:17.51 | zaurin | really good.. |
10:19.06 | marvin42 | mickeyl: ok, will flash pre0 than... |
10:19.06 | darmou | Are there any screenshots of the new oz? |
10:21.00 | mickeyl | opie.handhelds.org --> gallery |
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10:24.29 | darmou | Thanks |
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10:38.00 | mickeyl | hey Twiun |
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11:19.34 | zaurin | my opieirc terminates itself |
11:19.39 | zaurin | !@#$ |
11:20.27 | dade` | . |
11:21.37 | Zaurino | . |
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12:12.18 | _4cheeze_ | hey |
12:12.34 | _4cheeze_ | does anyone have GNUemacs running on the Zaurus? |
12:12.54 | MG_Tak | My Z doesn't have _that_ much RAM.. |
12:13.00 | _4cheeze_ | :-) |
12:13.02 | _4cheeze_ | aww |
12:13.13 | _4cheeze_ | emacs runs in about 8MB |
12:14.06 | MG_Tak | anyway |
12:14.08 | MG_Tak | I'm off to work |
12:14.11 | MG_Tak | bbiab |
12:14.59 | _4cheeze_ | l8rz |
12:17.42 | mclaren | hi, is there any good FAQ on how to build the rootfs of OZ? |
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14:00.44 | gawel | anyboy awake? |
14:02.05 | _4cheeze_ | nope |
14:02.08 | _4cheeze_ | :-) |
14:02.53 | gawel | so it's me and the crickets ;> |
14:03.56 | MG_Tak | mm, crickets |
14:04.32 | gawel | say, you guys have used bitkeeper before? |
14:10.36 | _4cheeze_ | nope |
14:10.45 | _4cheeze_ | isn't it a closed source thing? |
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14:11.04 | gawel | yes |
14:11.08 | mouse | hi 2 all |
14:20.12 | mouse | I recreate rom disk and after boot have follow messages (from dmesg): "jffs2_scan_eraseblock(): Magic bitmask 0x1985 nor found at 0xADDR: 0x793f instead"" "Child dir "arm" (ino #xyzw) of dir ino #wxxy appears to be a hard link". And I have files instead some dirs. What wrong? I create rom by cmd: mkfs.jffs2 -r root -p -e 0x40000 -o initrd.bin -l -q -f |
14:22.18 | mouse | there are a lot of "jffs2_scan..." and "Child dir" messages |
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14:39.57 | mouse | ? |
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15:07.07 | chouimat|coffee | morning |
15:29.59 | mouse | chouimat|coffee: evening |
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16:08.25 | mouse | anybody alive? |
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16:15.24 | darien_ | can someone help me with the wi-fi |
16:19.47 | darien_ | i have no connectivity to my zaurus via usb, wi-fi or infrared |
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16:20.27 | darien_ | for wi-fi the hostap_cs crypt module gives errors and wlan0 is not available |
16:21.01 | darien_ | whenever i try to start an interface in network setting it says starting device failed |
16:23.12 | mouse | darien_: lsmod ? |
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16:41.21 | ruied_Zaurus | how can I represent characters that doesn't exist im my keyboard? |
16:41.41 | ruied_Zaurus | I am Portuguese with english layout... |
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18:17.42 | davisfactor | has anyone successfully got xmms to work with 3.3.4 ? I get errors when adding songs to the playlist |
18:19.43 | Cameron | you mean 3.3.5, right? |
18:19.53 | davisfactor | no, 3.3.4 with opie 1.0.2 |
18:20.00 | Cameron | where did you get that image from? |
18:20.17 | davisfactor | someone from here recommended it .. let me find the url |
18:20.40 | davisfactor | http://www.opie.us/opie/devZone.php/initrds/OZ-Opie-1.02/http://www.opie.us/opie/devZone.php/initrds/OZ-Opie-1.02/ |
18:20.45 | davisfactor | it pasted twice |
18:21.35 | Cameron | cool |
18:21.43 | Cameron | sorry, I don't know, however |
18:22.36 | davisfactor | yeah, me either ... driving me crazy trying to figure it out |
18:32.30 | trappist | I got mplayer to *look* like it's playing mp3s, but I have no sound |
18:35.06 | duffolonious | you sure you aren't deaf? |
18:35.19 | trappist | nope not deaf |
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18:43.34 | duffolonious | trappist: my problem is that I can't flash my zaurus, any I've done about everything with the conclusion that it's flash program is dysfunctional... |
18:43.44 | duffolonious | so I have a worthless p.o.s. |
18:44.45 | Captain-Obvious | have you tried flashing a sharp rom? |
18:45.28 | duffolonious | no, I have not; but when flashing there is no lights (it should at least light). |
18:45.42 | duffolonious | but I could give the sharp rom's a try. |
18:46.11 | MG_Tak | duffolonious: what model? |
18:46.17 | duffolonious | 5500. |
18:46.24 | MG_Tak | ah |
18:46.29 | MG_Tak | can't help you there |
18:46.35 | duffolonious | that's alright. |
18:46.46 | Captain-Obvious | duffolonious: are you sure that your getting both c and d pressed? |
18:47.13 | duffolonious | I assume that I can do "C+D+FULL RESET" because... |
18:47.33 | duffolonious | I can do "D+P+FULL RESET" and get into debugging/bios mode. |
18:47.41 | Captain-Obvious | k |
18:50.37 | duffolonious | yeah. |
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19:10.18 | trappist | duffolonious: works flawlessly on my 5500 |
19:13.28 | duffolonious | trappist: I hope that isn't supposed to make me feel better. Sharp roms? or oz? |
19:14.04 | trappist | oz |
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19:21.21 | davisfactor | whats the best way to mount a partition on another linux box? |
19:23.20 | dade` | i think smbmount |
19:23.37 | duffolonious | trappist: trade ya? |
19:23.41 | dade` | but you are yousing wireless connections ? |
19:24.12 | davisfactor | yeah, wireless connection .. i want to mount the mp3 parition on my workstation to transfer files over |
19:24.20 | davisfactor | just got xmms working !!! :) |
19:25.13 | davisfactor | right now im running the sftp-serrver on the z and ftping files over |
19:25.36 | dade` | yep |
19:25.41 | dade` | i tryed with smbmount |
19:25.48 | dade` | BUT |
19:25.53 | dade` | there are many broblem due to the wireless connection |
19:26.27 | dade` | 'cause if the signal interrupts for a little there is an I/O kernel error on that mountpoint |
19:26.36 | dade` | and you can't unmount, you have to reboot |
19:26.50 | davisfactor | really? |
19:26.51 | dade` | this happens often |
19:27.06 | davisfactor | thats handy :) |
19:27.17 | dade` | ? |
19:27.31 | dade` | i dunno how to solve this |
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22:28.51 | trappist | # mount /dev/mmcda1 /mnt/card/ |
22:28.51 | trappist | mount: /dev/mmcda1 is not a valid block device |
22:29.05 | trappist | that happens with 2 brand new sd cards in a row, 2 different manufacturers |
22:30.33 | StarScream | isn't /mnt/card for CF? |
22:30.45 | kergoth | no, it isnt |
22:31.07 | smashie | its for sd/mmc |
22:31.19 | smashie | ./mnt/cf |
22:31.19 | smashie | is for CF |
22:31.19 | smashie | :p |
22:31.42 | trappist | # mkfs.ext2 /dev/mmcda1 |
22:31.44 | trappist | mke2fs 1.33 (21-Apr-2003) |
22:31.44 | trappist | mkfs.ext2: No such device or address while trying to determine filesystem size |
22:40.30 | trappist | just verified that it's good in my reader |
22:41.34 | cipher_ | anyone know if theres a usbdnet module that'll work on 2.6.*? |
22:42.17 | trappist | 2.6 comes with a module that specifically supports OZ |
22:42.20 | StarScream | cipher i dont know but if you want to sync you zaurus you can with the Sharp Zaurus modules |
22:42.49 | cipher | trappist: really? which? |
22:42.56 | trappist | there's one that supports that, and there's a faster-better-cheaper-whatever module that's basically just for OZ |
22:43.06 | kergoth | eh, usbnet works fine with sharp or oz. |
22:43.10 | trappist | cipher: I don't recall, I just remember seeing it last night when I was building 2.6 |
22:43.47 | cipher | my dmesg shows that the usb device is getting detected, but i'm not sure if i'd be able to sync. |
22:43.52 | trappist | kergoth: the maintainer of that code seems to think the sharp way of doing things was unnecessarily complicated, and there's a separate one for OZ |
22:44.12 | kergoth | OZ's usbd driver behaves the same as sharps. |
22:44.14 | trappist | hang on I'll pull it up |
22:44.48 | cipher | hub 1-0:1.0: new USB device on port 1, assigned address 7 |
22:44.51 | cipher | i get that in dmesg |
22:45.05 | cipher | how could i do a quick test to see if it works? |
22:45.14 | trappist | " |
22:45.14 | trappist | Although the ROMs shipped with Sharp Zaurus products use a |
22:45.14 | trappist | different link level framing protocol, you can have them use |
22:45.15 | trappist | this simpler protocol by installing a different kernel. |
22:45.19 | trappist | oops |
22:46.11 | kergoth | as i said. heh. yes, if you switch from usbd to usb-ether, itll remove the crc appending which isnt really needed, since usb has crc checking already |
22:46.20 | kergoth | but oz still uses what sharp does |
22:46.35 | kergoth | well, to clarify, our 2.4.21 tree uses the simpler driver by default |
22:47.08 | trappist | do sd cards necessarily go to /dev/mmcda1? |
22:47.48 | trappist | this new one works in my reader, has a filesystem, etc. but I can't find it on the zaurus |
22:48.55 | trappist | oops nm it does work :) |
22:49.55 | kergoth | heh |
22:50.36 | trappist | now I'd like to ext2 it so I can install software to it and not just use it for data, any gotchas before I do that? |
22:50.54 | kergoth | nope |
22:51.36 | trappist | I suppose I'll need to update $PATH and ld.so.conf, anything else for installing software? |
22:51.54 | kergoth | no you dont need to do that, the gui package installer symlinks everything back into / |
22:52.17 | trappist | hmm |
22:52.25 | trappist | it didn't seem to do that when I installed stuff to /mnt/ram |
22:52.36 | trappist | oh gui, I wasn't using the gui |
22:52.39 | StarScream | kergoth: When i sync my zaurus under 2.4.22 or 2.4.23 my machine freezes when i remove it from the cradle. Do you know which kernel developer should i notify of the bug? |
22:52.41 | trappist | I was just using ipkg |
22:53.02 | kergoth | StarScream: the desktop freezes? email the linux-usb-devel mailing list |
22:53.29 | trappist | I wasn't aware the gui came with any special bennies |
22:53.41 | StarScream | thanks kergoth. Yeh everything locks up, like i dont even get anything in the syslog |
23:04.01 | trappist | an item in the FAQ tells me I can change the default install destination to sd, but doesn't say how, and I'm not seeing how. Help? |
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23:13.04 | trappist | the opie documentation on this is apparently out of date |
23:13.47 | kergoth | the last destination you selected will be the one thats selected by defualt the next time you install something |
23:13.56 | kergoth | its on the "to install" dialog in the package gui |
23:14.08 | trappist | ok that'll work, thanks |
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