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| 00:59.29 | PhantomsDad | Is there a way to extract apps from OSPACK without flashing first to SL-5500? |
| 00:59.50 | treke|laptop | exit |
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| 01:08.08 | benr | has anyone got XMMS running on OZ32? |
| 01:48.19 | benr | arghhhhhhhhhhh! |
| 01:48.27 | benr | ipkg should die!!!!!111 |
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| 03:36.37 | raleigh | im trying to commumicate with a ti86 calculator through the zaurus headphone jack... |
| 03:36.40 | raleigh | ideally i would read a byte at a time |
| 03:36.46 | raleigh | but... |
| 03:37.33 | raleigh | http://www.ossh.com/zaurus/mirrors/docs.zaurus.com/audio_howto.shtml says AFMT_U8 is buggy on the zaurus |
| 03:37.46 | W8TVI | why not use a serial cable? |
| 03:37.52 | W8TVI | the zaurus has a serial port |
| 03:38.20 | raleigh | just for fun |
| 03:41.47 | ljp | I found 8 bit audio buggy on the original kernels |
| 03:42.11 | raleigh | but its not anymore? |
| 03:42.15 | ljp | might be different in openzaurus, but you can always resample |
| 03:42.34 | treke|home | yeah but he doesnt want to get audio data :) |
| 03:42.52 | ljp | its all bits |
| 03:43.17 | matr1x | heh |
| 03:43.17 | treke|home | how do you resample a serial stream? :p |
| 03:43.36 | ljp | umm.. very carefully |
| 03:45.16 | matr1x | whats the average battery time on a zaurus running OZ? best estimate? |
| 03:45.40 | ljp | depends on what you use it for |
| 03:45.55 | matr1x | say ebook reading |
| 03:45.56 | ljp | wifi sniffing you arent going to get too much |
| 03:46.14 | matr1x | someone should make a chart :) |
| 03:46.31 | ljp | the zaurus isnt known for long bettery life |
| 03:46.37 | matr1x | yah |
| 03:47.16 | ljp | if its plugged into power, you can read a long time :) |
| 03:48.11 | matr1x | i bought one despite that, havent got it yet but im just looking around with google at all the stuff thats been done |
| 03:51.14 | raleigh | ljp, can you explain how i can 'resample'? |
| 03:53.29 | RedBeard- | matr1x: I've had good success reading ebooks on mine. |
| 03:53.52 | RedBeard- | but I turned the back light almost off, and still kept it pluged in as much as possible |
| 03:56.32 | matr1x | does kpilot work with the zaurus? |
| 03:57.17 | RedBeard- | duno. I haven't tried. I've just pulled my CF flash card, put it in the pc reader, copied over the files I want then plugged it back into the Z |
| 04:06.42 | raleigh | oh well... i think ill just read a byte at a time and hope for the best |
| 04:13.03 | raleigh | if i read from /dev/dsp into a buffer, read() should return sizeof(buffer), right? |
| 04:13.19 | raleigh | and if they arent the same, i have an error |
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| 06:12.02 | zeronett | does anyone know if there are any programs that will sync with ical on osX? |
| 06:12.51 | sig | yes |
| 06:12.54 | sig | qt |
| 06:13.13 | treke|home | qt is a library :) |
| 06:13.29 | sig | http://www.trolltech.com/products/qtopia/index.html |
| 06:13.34 | sig | qtopia that is |
| 06:13.48 | treke|home | qtopia is a desktop environment :) |
| 06:13.51 | ljp | qtopiadesktop, you mean |
| 06:14.06 | ljp | and I dont think it syncs with ical |
| 06:14.07 | sig | look at the link I just gave out. |
| 06:14.25 | sig | ljp: I don't know either |
| 06:14.56 | sig | http://www.linuxgoons.com/modules.php?set_albumName=Linux_Handhelds&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php&PHPSESSID=12f0c376edcf933e6cae51f4d03406fb |
| 06:15.05 | ljp | I have kicked the guy that does qtopiadesktop for not syncing with anything in osx |
| 06:18.43 | zeronett | ljp: are there any other options than qtopiadesktop. one that will actually sync with ical? |
| 06:19.11 | ljp | not real sure |
| 06:19.16 | ljp | I doubt it |
| 06:19.39 | zeronett | ok |
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| 09:03.55 | pchan | what is updater.sh in the .6 dir? |
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| 09:08.39 | ljp | thats needed for flashing a c7x00 device, perhaps a 5600 |
| 09:17.26 | pchan | Ok |
| 09:17.47 | pchan | When i started flashing with the new rom on the CF card, it lit up for like 3 sec then shut off |
| 09:17.50 | pchan | any clue? |
| 09:18.35 | pchan | Not off right away--just after a few sec. |
| 09:21.08 | ljp | which device? |
| 09:24.06 | pchan | 5500 |
| 09:25.09 | ljp | did you name the files zImage and initrd.bin ? |
| 09:25.16 | pchan | Yes. |
| 09:25.36 | ljp | and the cf card is formatted as vfat? |
| 09:25.51 | pchan | It should be..ive flashed with it before... |
| 09:25.55 | ljp | ok. |
| 09:26.41 | ljp | most often I have had to copy the files again, sometimes they may not all be there, if you ftp'd them |
| 09:27.51 | ljp | crap. burnt my pizza |
| 09:33.07 | pchan | ill try sending em over again then |
| 09:35.59 | pchan | The lights are on longer this time |
| 09:36.05 | pchan | but turned off after like 4 sec now |
| 09:36.42 | ljp | hmm |
| 09:37.15 | pchan | Tis odd... |
| 09:41.21 | pchan | Im gonna pop on Ospack and revert |
| 09:41.24 | pchan | thanks anywho.. |
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| 14:22.05 | zack | Hi all |
| 14:22.18 | zack | does anyone know of a distro for the SL-5600 |
| 14:22.20 | zack | ? |
| 14:25.50 | sonix` | ?? |
| 14:26.00 | sonix` | OZ |
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| 14:47.29 | PhantomsDad | Some CF wireless cards are Type II and some are Type I/II. Does this matter? (Oz 3.3.5, SL-5500). |
| 14:47.35 | yeiazel | no |
| 14:47.50 | yeiazel | but don't you know what 'politeness' means ? |
| 14:48.00 | sonix` | :-p |
| 14:48.16 | PhantomsDad | yeiazel: Excuse me? Was I impolite? |
| 14:48.24 | sonix` | no |
| 14:48.27 | sonix` | you werent polite |
| 14:48.29 | yeiazel | did you say "hello" ? |
| 14:48.41 | yeiazel | you came, asked your question |
| 14:48.54 | sonix` | bossing us around as if you own us |
| 14:49.00 | PhantomsDad | yeiazel: No, I apologize. Hello everyone. Hope you had a happy holiday. |
| 14:49.13 | yeiazel | :) |
| 14:49.18 | yeiazel | hello PhantomsDad |
| 14:49.49 | yeiazel | the CF card 'Type' is the thickness of the card |
| 14:49.55 | yeiazel | like for PCMCIA cards |
| 14:49.58 | yeiazel | that's all |
| 14:50.29 | yeiazel | the Z has a Type II CF slot, you can put Type I and Type II cards |
| 14:50.51 | yeiazel | if they existed, you wouldn't be able to use Type III CF cards :) |
| 14:51.00 | PhantomsDad | Another question please. Should I stick with cards that are known to work in SL-5500, or will almost any 802.11b card work? |
| 14:51.02 | yeiazel | (but Type III only exists for PCMCIA) |
| 14:51.12 | yeiazel | PhantomsDad: any that has a prism chip |
| 14:51.20 | sonix` | I SECOND THAT! |
| 14:51.22 | sonix` | woops |
| 14:51.24 | sonix` | caps lock |
| 14:51.37 | sonix` | dealing with drivers on a PDA isa bitch |
| 14:51.46 | yeiazel | if it's not directly recognized, you would just have to add 3 or 4 lines to a config file |
| 14:51.53 | yeiazel | as long as it's prism, it's good |
| 14:52.01 | sonix` | I got teh ambicom |
| 14:52.02 | sonix` | its good |
| 14:52.07 | sonix` | my friend got a sony |
| 14:52.10 | sonix` | looks slicker than mine |
| 14:52.17 | sonix` | both provide plug and play |
| 14:52.33 | yeiazel | got a linksys WCF12 |
| 14:52.41 | yeiazel | works with OZ |
| 14:52.43 | sonix` | there was smethign about those cards |
| 14:52.47 | sonix` | linksys ones |
| 14:52.52 | yeiazel | yes, WCF11 |
| 14:53.03 | yeiazel | the antenna was pcmcia-size-wide |
| 14:53.04 | sonix` | yeah it sucked major balls or something |
| 14:53.23 | yeiazel | blocking the stylus and the jack slot |
| 14:54.05 | PhantomsDad | Um, not good. Glad I asked. Is the WCF12 802.11b? |
| 14:55.32 | PhantomsDad | I'm not familiar with the Sony. Got a model number? |
| 14:55.37 | sonix` | nope |
| 14:55.37 | sonix` | sorry |
| 14:55.44 | yeiazel | PhantomsDad: yes it is |
| 14:58.24 | PhantomsDad | There's a list of cards at http://myzaurus.com/acc_Comm2.asp. The WCF11 is listed there. The Ambicom is also included. (I'm asking 'cus I'm about to go out and try to buy a card, so I'd like to know which ones will work well with Oz 3.3.5.) |
| 14:58.45 | yeiazel | go for a prism |
| 14:58.55 | yeiazel | lynksys are prism |
| 14:58.58 | yeiazel | s/y/i/ |
| 14:59.15 | yeiazel | and other cards said to work... work |
| 15:00.59 | PhantomsDad | Thanks for the help. |
| 15:03.59 | PhantomsDad | BTW, Oz 3.3.5 rocks. Thanks to all those who've worked so hard on a fine package. |
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| 15:05.50 | yeiazel | ... and he didn't say "bye" |
| 15:09.01 | sonix` | lol |
| 15:09.08 | sonix` | at least he said thanks |
| 15:09.34 | yeiazel | :) |
| 15:13.41 | sonix` | will c860 be in the US? |
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| 15:58.51 | Disconnect | guh. first test of the compat libs, bombed :( (undefined symbol qws_server_display_spec in libsl.so.1 .. so its not surprising.. just annoying. was hoping to use kino2 ;) ..) |
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| 16:51.36 | sofaking | hello |
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| 17:00.56 | PhantomsDad | hello. got an AmbiCom card. :) |
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| 17:11.41 | PhantomsDad | what is best web brkwser to usr in oz 3.3.5? I installed Opera from TheKompany but toolbar buttons are missing. |
| 17:12.46 | smashie | opera |
| 17:12.50 | smashie | well |
| 17:12.54 | smashie | you have to create a symlink |
| 17:12.59 | smashie | to /usr/local/share |
| 17:13.04 | smashie | or /usr/share/opera |
| 17:13.08 | smashie | dunno remember exactly |
| 17:14.20 | PhantomsDad | thx. checking |
| 17:15.28 | smashie | like |
| 17:15.35 | smashie | ln -s mnt/card//opt/QtPalmtop/opera /usr/share/opera |
| 17:15.47 | smashie | ln -s /mnt/card/opt/QtPalmtop/opera /usr/share/opera |
| 17:15.47 | smashie | even |
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| 17:19.52 | PhantomsDad | fantastic! that did it. thx so much. |
| 17:21.14 | smashie | you're welcome |
| 17:21.15 | smashie | ;) |
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| 17:46.31 | sig | http://www.linuxgoons.com/ |
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| 19:13.10 | PhantomsDad | Hello, anybody here use VNC? |
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| 20:53.53 | somervil_ | is cf necessary for installing open zaurus, or is there some way to do it via sd ? |
| 20:55.26 | treke | it's necessarry on the 5600 and 5500 |
| 20:55.53 | somervil_ | and the c7xx (760) ? |
| 20:55.58 | treke | no |
| 20:56.52 | somervil_ | im browsing around the openzaurus site, and im having trouble finding instructions specific to the 7xx and installing without cf... do you have any revant links ? |
| 20:56.57 | treke | no |
| 20:57.31 | treke | they are the same as installing with CF, you just choose SD instead of CF |
| 20:57.56 | somervil_ | Alright, awesome : ) |
| 20:57.58 | somervil_ | thanks |
| 21:10.07 | somervil_ | what are zaurus "feeds" |
| 21:13.05 | ljp | check in the openzaurus wiki |
| 21:13.14 | ljp | about installing on c7x0 |
| 21:15.34 | somervil_ | where can the wiki be found ? |
| 21:28.45 | ljp | should be at openzaurus.org |
| 21:31.14 | somervil_ | not unless my eyes are failing me and google has yet to index it... google search[ wiki site:openzaurus.org ] fails to come up with anything relevent |
| 21:34.57 | ljp | http://www.openzaurus.org/oz_website/faq/browse?show_results=1&search_string=&categories%5B%5D=13&date_modified_start=&date_modified_stop=&action%5Bsubmit%5D=Submit |
| 21:35.11 | ljp | thats mainly for c700, though. |
| 21:35.40 | ljp | you might also search here http://externe.net/zaurus/forum/ |
| 21:36.17 | ljp | the openzaurus wiki si a bit.. unconventional |
| 21:36.22 | somervil_ | thanks... is that a wiki ? |
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| 22:27.59 | somervil_ | what do collie corgie etc refer to ? |
| 22:29.27 | pb_ | models of zaurus, or dogs. |
| 22:29.51 | pb_ | ibot, collie? |
| 22:29.52 | | well, collie is sharp sl-5500 and sl-5000d, or a dog |
| 22:29.55 | pb_ | ibot, corgi? |
| 22:29.56 | | somebody said corgi was sharp sl-c700, or a dog |
| 22:30.00 | pb_ | you get the idea. |
| 22:30.44 | George- | ibot: poodle |
| 22:30.45 | | i heard poodle is sharp sl-b500/5600, or a dog |
| 22:32.03 | somervil_ | why not just name them something intuitive |
| 22:32.12 | treke | ? |
| 22:32.25 | somervil_ | like zaurusslc760 |
| 22:32.38 | treke | because it isn't as fulfilling |
| 22:33.03 | George- | somervil_: because that's what Sharp chose to call them. |
| 22:33.15 | somervil_ | They did ? |
| 22:33.18 | treke | yes |
| 22:33.18 | George- | ... |
| 22:33.32 | somervil_ | wow... crazy ... so what is th c760 ? |
| 22:33.36 | treke | husky |
| 22:33.47 | George- | ibot: husky |
| 22:33.48 | | from memory, husky is Sharp Zaurus SL-C760 or a dog |
| 22:38.15 | chouimat | hi George- |
| 22:38.33 | George- | chouimat: piss off |
| 22:38.49 | chouimat | George-: no |
| 22:39.06 | somervil_ | is updater.sh in japanese, or just compressed somehow ? |
| 22:39.10 | treke | chouimat: dont you have ops in here? |
| 22:39.24 | chouimat | treke: nope :( |
| 22:39.34 | treke | George-: can you join #openembedded please? |
| 22:39.36 | George- | no, he's a blasted frog. |
| 22:39.44 | chouimat | treke: ;) |
| 22:39.48 | George- | treke: no, beacuse chouimat is an op in there |
| 22:39.53 | George- | treke: and chouimat is a gay frog |
| 22:40.21 | George- | in fact, I'm going to ignore him. |
| 22:40.59 | chouimat | treke: I just say hi and everytime he said obscenities and put me on ignore ... |
| 22:41.12 | treke | he's predictable |
| 22:41.24 | treke | chouimat: I've got debian on my ppc now |
| 22:41.26 | treke | chouimat: it's yummy |
| 22:41.47 | chouimat | treke: I need to get one of those ... but they have all sold their ibook g3 :( |
| 22:42.09 | chouimat | treke: so I need to work a little before getting a g4 |
| 22:47.08 | somervil_ | anyone have the sl-c760... im having trouble with install ... im following the instructions for the c700, but it doesnt seem to be working |
| 22:47.11 | somervil_ | i plug in |
| 22:47.24 | somervil_ | power off |
| 22:47.37 | somervil_ | slide battery slider over and back |
| 22:47.52 | somervil_ | then hold the ok button next to the power button while pressing the power button |
| 22:47.56 | somervil_ | and nothing happens |
| 22:50.05 | pb_ | I think the drill for c760 is a bit different. iirc, you need to actually pop the battery out rather than just flipping the switch. |
| 22:51.31 | somervil_ | thanks... actually its slide switch, take battery out, remove power adapter, then replace all, and holdok and power |
| 22:53.02 | somervil_ | here goes... : ) |
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| 23:35.27 | somervil__ | is the usbnet driver unstable ??? Iv just had kernel panic when plugging in my zaurus |
| 23:37.05 | treke | untable is being generous |
| 23:37.21 | somervil__ | that really sucks... |
| 23:38.40 | Rack | what is the 'file browser' on the zaurus? |
| 23:39.17 | somervil__ | im also having really wierd problems with my zaurus... when ever it suspends because it hasnt been touched for a while... it wont turn back on properly... it will turn on for 3 seconds and then blank back out, and the touch screen is unresponsive |
| 23:39.30 | treke | you need to upgrade |
| 23:39.39 | treke | sounds like you use an older snapshot |
| 23:41.05 | somervil__ | im using husky 3.3.5 |
| 23:41.13 | somervil__ | do I need to get it from cvs ? |
| 23:41.31 | treke | The bug shouldnt be there in 3.3.5 |
| 23:41.38 | treke | I know it isnt in newer builds |
| 23:41.55 | treke | I just dont recall where it was actually fixed |
| 23:42.07 | somervil__ | http://www.openzaurus.org/official/3.3.5/husky/ is where I got it |
| 23:42.19 | treke | I guessed as much. |
| 23:42.39 | George- | somervil__: yeh, I had that trouble with the suspend/resume on my 2.4.18 hack (which is almost identical to the 2.4.18 in 3.3.5) |
| 23:42.43 | George- | somervil__: try 3.3.6-pre1 |
| 23:43.07 | treke | I think the fix was in the C860 source tree, so 3.3.6 would probably do it |
| 23:43.31 | somervil__ | cool... ill try it |
| 23:43.59 | somervil__ | ... if i can manage to plub it in without crashing my computer : / |
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| 23:47.50 | Rack | anyone use SD memory with the zaurus? |
| 23:47.55 | Rack | or is cf preferred? |
| 23:48.13 | ljp | I use both |
| 23:50.41 | treke | same |
| 23:50.43 | somervil__ | is cvs handeled by sourceforge? ... i noticed the release files have been depreciated |
| 23:50.53 | treke | we dont use cvs |
| 23:50.57 | treke | ibot bitkeeper |
| 23:50.58 | | extra, extra, read all about it, bitkeeper is at http://www.bitkeeper.com/ or at http://www.bitmover.com/ or hosted trees at http://www.bkbits.net/ or like cvs and subversion, but its non-opensource.. but its really good, even linus uses it to develop the kernel! |
| 23:52.40 | somervil__ | do I need a bitkeeper client to get 3.3.6-pre1 ? |
| 23:53.16 | Pendalar | no |
| 23:53.33 | Pendalar | it's on the website normally unless it's been moved |
| 23:53.48 | Pendalar | bitkeeper is for the building system.. different thing |
| 23:55.11 | somervil__ | its not obvious where to find it on the website... can you point me to it ? |
| 23:55.26 | Pendalar | it's at http://www.openzaurus.org/official/experimental/collie |
| 23:55.31 | Pendalar | assuming you have a sl5500 |
| 23:55.38 | Pendalar | or 5000d |
| 23:56.11 | Pendalar | do look at the readme |
| 23:56.27 | Pendalar | because there's some things you'll be griping about later if you don't |
| 23:56.40 | somervil__ | Im using husky... which has nothing but updater.sh |
| 23:56.53 | somervil__ | will the collie work in the stead of husky ? |
| 23:56.58 | Pendalar | no |
| 23:56.59 | treke | no |
| 23:57.07 | Pendalar | that would be bad (TM) |
| 23:58.05 | somervil__ | so im up shit creek ? |
| 23:58.40 | ljp | yup. better just send me the c760 |
| 23:59.03 | Pendalar | heh |
| 23:59.14 | Pendalar | somervil__: just use whatever the stable husky is for a bit |