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01:12.17nerdboy_yo
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01:49.53chouimatnight
01:56.52ShALLaX:o
01:56.55ShALLaXgentoo for the Z
01:56.56ShALLaXwhee
01:59.26Disconnectnow THATS what I want to do to my flash. rape it, and rape it hard... ;)
01:59.40ShALLaX?
01:59.45ShALLaXit runs from over an nfs share
02:00.16ShALLaXi dont even use my flash for writing to anymore
02:00.20ShALLaXi boot from an SD card
02:00.21ShALLaXheh
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02:25.22PlsHelpi downloaded kismet 3.0.1.tar n kismet_qt gui....so what happens next?how do i install kismet main program?
02:39.50Pendalaris there an actual port enough to load into a gui?
02:39.55sunnyhow do I hit the escape key in vi ?
02:39.55sunnyheh
02:40.05Pendalarthe cancel button
02:40.08Pendalariirc
02:41.02sunnythanks!
02:41.34sunnyPendalar: also, what is the control button in bash ?
02:44.37Pendalar"control"?
02:44.48sunnyCtrl
02:45.00PendalarFn probably
02:45.01sunnyso I can do Ctrl+U or Ctrl+D .... etc
02:45.11Pendalaror Fn+the UP button right above it
02:45.18Pendalaroh that'd be Fn + C then
02:45.48sunnyoh, that works
02:45.50sunnycool
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03:00.37ShALLaXPendalar! :P
03:04.50Pendalaryeah
03:04.59Pendalarone of these days *sigh*
03:07.00PlsHelphow to create a directory...or do i already have a directory in my zaurus sl5600? If i already do,how to locate it??pls help...
03:07.59Pendalareh?
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05:11.32Mr_Shlinghi all, got a question
05:11.51Mr_Shlingis anyone alive?
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11:23.50Mocaraanyone using a WLI2-CF-S11 with a 5500? :-)
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13:32.37Mr_Shlinghi guys, anybody up for a question?
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13:50.48Mr_Shlingi have a problem... i'm trying to sync my OpenZaurus 3.2 SL-5500 handheld to my win2kpro box
13:50.54Mr_Shlingand i'm not having much luck
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14:20.55Mr_Shling07:51] <Mr_Shling> i have a problem... i'm trying to sync my OpenZaurus 3.2 SL-5500 handheld to my win2kpro box
14:20.55Mr_Shling[07:51] <Mr_Shling> and i'm not having much luck
14:22.58jdh41you might get more help if you tell people the exact nature of the problem, what you've tried, what software you're using, etc.
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16:12.18Mr_Shlinghey, i was wondering if you guys could help me connect my OZ3.2 sl-5500 to my win2kpro box?
16:12.26Mr_Shlingi'm having some troubles
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19:29.24poledang it, nobody answered my question on the mailing list
19:29.40polehttp://news.gmane.org/navbar.php?group=gmane.comp.handhelds.openzaurus.user&article=6537&next=6538&prev=6541&newsrc=,6537,6588
19:29.59polehmm
19:30.13polehttp://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openzaurus.user/6537
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20:28.37rabbit_ukhello
20:29.10rabbit_ukwhat's the optimal mem config for playing divx's?
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21:33.57godsmokeis anyone using opie media player on 3.3.6?
21:34.30godsmokefor whatever reason, no matter how many times I flash and redownload and reinstall, I can't get op2 to start, it gives me a SIGSEGV error
21:35.25kollaaha.. interesting link.. newton keyboard on Z
21:35.34kolla3.3.6 is out yet?
21:35.55kollause xmms instead
21:36.07yeiazelnot on 3.3.6
21:36.12treke|laptopxmms doesnt run on 3.3.x
21:36.14yeiazelthere is no xmms for 3.3.6
21:36.14kollathat's the general answer to all mediaplayer related questions :)
21:36.29kollaI run xmms on 3.3.5 just fine, and mplayer too
21:36.34godsmokewell, I had the same problem with 3.3.5
21:36.43treke|laptopeh? It doesnt build against gcc3
21:37.49godsmokesigh
21:37.55godsmokethis is why I didn't use oz
21:39.38kolla:)
21:39.58godsmokeno, I'm serious
21:40.01kollame too
21:40.10kollaI always said linux has nothing to do on a PDA :)
21:40.21godsmokeit's a very typical linux model, versus a professional model, which is often characterized with the BSD model
21:40.23godsmokeuh
21:40.26godsmokethat's ignorant
21:40.34kollabite me :)
21:41.01kollaso far there has been only one true PDA OS
21:41.07godsmokeoh boy
21:41.07kollaand Apple killed it
21:42.06kollathe Z is a nice combo ssh client and mediaplayer though
21:42.14kollawhic his basicly all I use it for
21:42.14godsmokeno, it's not
21:42.20kollawell, mine is
21:42.52kollaI use my P800 for all the pim stuff
21:43.59kollathe Z and the P800 talks well with each other over bluetooth
21:44.07kollait happens that I use the Z for IRC as well
21:44.21kollabut it is easier to use IRC from the P800 directly
21:45.38kollaoh, and I also have a bunch of maps on the Z
21:45.48kollabut opie viewer takes forever to launch
21:46.00kollaand mooview has no zooming
21:46.36kollaso basicly it blows for that use too
21:47.54kollawhat it is that makes opieview spend minutes to launch, I have no idea
21:48.17kollaI suspect it scans for images, or scan images for .. something
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21:51.01treke|laptoptximage
21:52.02ljphmmm
21:52.08ljpuse gimp ;)
21:52.55ljpI need to go get a new keyboard
21:53.15ljpmy quotes button is farked
22:26.10sunnygodsmoke: is your sole job to criticize OZ ? don't you have something more productive to do ?
22:27.16treke|laptopeh, just ignore him
22:27.33treke|laptophe wants to be an asshole, he can be an asshole.
22:27.47JuNGLisTI think he's a m$ agent here to try to make ppl change their mind 'bout Z and openOSs PDAs
22:37.21ljpya, put BSD on one, cause its mroe professional
22:37.29ljpmore, even
22:39.20ljp:)
22:40.01kollaheh, it's my job
22:41.58MG_TakJuNGLisT: you're sounding about as stupid as he is.
22:43.09JuNGLisTmight be ... maybe we just dont have the same sense of humor ^^
22:44.02JuNGLisTbtw every time I see him he's just saying Z is shit
22:44.13treke|laptopso let him
22:44.41MG_TakHalf the time I'm in here there's some schmuck whining about Microsoft, too.
22:44.54yeiazelJuNGLisT: you sense of humor sucks
22:45.04JuNGLisTi'm not whining 'bout microsoft
22:45.20JuNGLisTas I agree they're making good pda os
22:45.28JuNGLisTI also have a ppc
22:45.35JuNGLisTand I4m satisfied with it
22:46.12yeiazelthe "$" is just pure fud
22:46.31treke|laptopnah, it's a good summary of the company :)
22:46.32yeiazeland I'm eating a tiramisu
22:46.34MG_TakI like $un and $pple and Net$cape and.. well anyway.
22:46.49ljpmicrosfot uses bsd code
22:46.57MG_Takljp: so does Apple
22:47.03ljphow does that make you feel?
22:47.12MG_Takljp: why would I care about it..?
22:47.14yeiazelBSDs suck
22:47.16yeiazel:)
22:47.41MG_Takyeiazel: you should call it B$D maybe..
22:48.07MG_TakI'm gonna start calling AT&T A$&$ since they're only after my money.
22:48.11ljpI am going to take BSD code and republish it as my own os - LSD
22:48.45jdh41so as not to confuse PlsHelp on the other channel, hsould kismet work with the original SHARP 5600 ROM?
22:48.56jdh41and he doens't need pcap does he - this OZ thingy right?
22:49.19ljpfor wellenrieter, n\he needs pcap
22:49.20jdh41s/this/that's a/
22:50.57jdh41his card is a prism2 one I assume: its an orinoco gold pcmcia card with cf adapter
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22:57.51MG_TakWhat is the purpose of linking to root?
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22:58.39kollaobfuscating
22:59.36treke|laptopMG_Tak: It's done so that the items are installed into a place wheree they can be expected to work
22:59.49treke|laptopMG_Tak: a work around for apps that are hard coded into a specific location.
23:00.09kollabecause *ix has nothing more clever than symlinks to fix that
23:02.39MG_TakWhen I try to install opie-sh, the first package links properly, but then all the other ones say they fail to link
23:02.51treke|laptopfun.
23:03.04treke|laptopsomeone should go fix qtopia :)
23:03.18ljpfix??
23:03.37treke|laptopyes.
23:03.40ljphow about somneone fix ipkg
23:03.46treke|laptopipkg isnt the problem here
23:03.57ljpipkg is always the problem
23:03.57treke|laptopipkg is buggy, but the problem is qtopias design.
23:04.07MG_TakActually.. I just took a closer look at it and it seems to be trying to link the things 3 times
23:04.16MG_Takthe first works but then the next two fail..
23:04.27kollatreke|ho1e: wow
23:04.37kollauhm treke|laptop I mean
23:04.41treke|laptopif ipkg  could better handle applications that arent installed within $QPEDIR, it wouldnt be as big a problem.
23:04.55treke|laptoper qtopia
23:05.31MG_TakUsing aqpkg
23:06.48kollatreke|laptop: you said "the problem is qtopias design"
23:06.49MG_TakI've heard some strange things about the documents tab and how it being disabled can cause some weird issues. could it be silly enough that it's the case here?
23:07.05treke|laptopkolla: that's surprising?
23:07.16kollanot the fact, but the statement yes
23:07.24treke|laptopI dont think I've ever hidden the fact that there are design decisions I disagree with :0
23:07.24kollaqtopis is broken by design
23:07.28kollaI always said so
23:11.00kollaI do, it's the general rule of "worst solution always wins"
23:11.38kollajust a result of muphy's law
23:24.24MG_TakHopefully 3.3.6'll be fixed for 5600.
23:29.16treke|laptopdid cdm start on it?
23:29.30treke|laptopit was pretty rough on the 550 last I heard
23:29.48MG_Taktreke|laptop: I donno, I just found out about it from google.
23:31.34ljpjust because qtopia doesnt perform the way you want it to, doesn´t mean its broken by design
23:31.35treke|laptopequip looked pretty cool
23:31.49jdh41anyone got bluez rfcomm working on OZ 3.3.5?
23:36.15MG_Takljp: doesn't mean it isn't
23:37.23treke|laptopeh. ljp is paid to disagree :)
23:37.41MG_Taktreke|laptop: by whom? :)
23:37.50treke|laptophehe :)
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