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| 00:42.24 | TheMasterMind1 | . |
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| 00:49.20 | Benji2 | hi, does anyone know why i don't have ldconfig and which package can provides it ? |
| 00:49.41 | Benji2 | (OZ 3.2, upgraded to Opie 1.0.3) |
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| 01:52.21 | Mr_Shling | hi all, i'm trying to connect to the internet using USBoE with my SL-5500 using OZ3.2 |
| 01:53.02 | Mr_Shling | but i cann't seem to get a connection to anything other than my actual computer (running win2kpro) |
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| 02:42.57 | cyn_ | Mr_Shling: your win2kpro computer is going to have to act as a gateway for it - which will require internet connection sharing or some such |
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| 08:01.33 | carbon | alright, i'm using 3.3.6pre1 now, which fixes a known hotplug issue in 3.3.5... |
| 08:01.39 | carbon | however, i'm still getting that cf card ejection nastiness |
| 08:01.51 | carbon | its a regular cf card too, not a microdrive |
| 08:02.04 | carbon | any other ideas on how to fix this? |
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| 08:57.00 | ljp | carbon: is it in use when you try to eject it? |
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| 09:18.28 | carbon | ljp, no, i dont attempt to eject it manually |
| 09:18.31 | carbon | hm... |
| 09:18.47 | carbon | i just installed a rom based on sharp rom w/ qtopia... and im continuing to have this issue |
| 09:19.03 | carbon | perhaps something happened to this cf card about the time i used it to flash 3.3.6? |
| 09:25.32 | carbon | yes, its definetly the cf card |
| 09:25.41 | carbon | cf cards besides this one seem to work |
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| 09:27.45 | carbon | ah, damn... |
| 09:28.09 | carbon | without that cf card, i dont have anything with enough room to store music :-\ |
| 09:28.14 | ljp | could have errors on it |
| 09:28.21 | carbon | i did try and reformat it... |
| 09:28.33 | ljp | do you have embeddedkonsole installed? |
| 09:29.21 | carbon | yeah, ive got a console |
| 09:33.44 | carbon | why, do you have an idea? |
| 09:34.27 | ljp | ya, fsck it |
| 09:34.34 | ljp | umount /mnt/cf |
| 09:34.37 | ljp | and run |
| 09:34.37 | carbon | ah, good idea |
| 09:34.50 | ljp | fsck.vfat /dev/hda1 |
| 09:35.56 | carbon | no errors... |
| 09:36.08 | carbon | besides, ive already tried reformatting the card |
| 09:36.41 | carbon | hm... |
| 09:36.59 | ljp | hmm |
| 09:37.05 | carbon | well, my zaurus is still quite usable for gaming/reading/note-taking w/o a cf card... |
| 09:37.19 | carbon | i dont have a pair of headphones atm anyways ;_) |
| 09:37.47 | carbon | this cf card has been acting pretty strangely ever since i got it, anyways |
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| 14:28.40 | kolla | why all this taløk |
| 14:28.43 | kolla | um |
| 14:28.54 | kolla | why all this talk of oz 3.3.6? |
| 14:30.03 | kolla | 3.2 is still stable and 3.3.5 is testing... |
| 14:30.26 | jdh41 | kolla: as 3.3.6 fixes some hideous bugs in 3.3.5 and marks the transition to gcc3? |
| 14:31.24 | kolla | what bugs? |
| 14:31.42 | kolla | or rather.. which? :) |
| 14:39.25 | jdh41 | http://www.openzaurus.org/official/experimental/collie/3.3.6-pre1-2.4.18-gcc3/README.FIRST |
| 14:41.37 | kolla | no ipv6, huh? |
| 14:41.48 | kolla | wonder why it was removed |
| 14:42.56 | kolla | upgraded hostap_cs and wireless extension patches in kernel sounds good |
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| 17:31.09 | nerdboy_ | hey |
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| 18:19.58 | dfgdfg | is it real hard to compile something like xmms on the zaurus? |
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| 19:55.39 | pole | anyone get prboom to run in 3.3.6pre1? |
| 19:59.25 | pole | it segfaults |
| 20:01.16 | pole | dang... i love playing doom on my Z |
| 20:01.49 | pole | prboom v2.2.3 (http://prboom.sourceforge.net/) |
| 20:01.49 | pole | Z_Init : Allocated 8064Kb zone memory |
| 20:01.49 | pole | QPaintDevice: Must construct a QApplication before a QPaintDevice |
| 20:01.49 | pole | I_SignalHandler: Exiting on signal: Floating point exception |
| 20:01.49 | pole | I_SignalHandler: Exiting on signal: Segmentation fault |
| 20:01.49 | pole | SIGSEGV |
| 20:02.05 | pole | this is prboom in the 3.3.6pre1 feed |
| 20:02.31 | dfgdfg | anyone got xmms on 3.3.6pre1? |
| 20:02.32 | pole | with SDL from the feed also |
| 20:02.59 | pole | dfgdfg: did anyone build it? |
| 20:03.58 | pole | dfgdfg: i will try to build it |
| 20:04.51 | pole | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cvstarballs/xmms-embedded-cvsroot.tar.gz |
| 20:04.54 | pole | link is broken |
| 20:06.10 | pole | give me a link of recent source if you want me to try |
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| 20:45.54 | kan0 | btw, looks like the 7x0 series dont like the "thin" SD cards. they are a bit wobbly in the slot and get loads of errors |
| 20:47.41 | treke|laptop | not surprising |
| 20:47.45 | treke|laptop | probably doesnt like mmc either |
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| 21:03.23 | kan0 | pole> cvs checkout also looks broken |
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| 21:08.11 | kan0 | pole> s/gz$/bz2/ |
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| 21:21.24 | Zylogue | how do I 'integrate' my sd card as system memory and not just storage? |
| 21:22.52 | _Bala_ | you dont. |
| 21:23.31 | Zylogue | OK, I go to transfer files to my 5500 and I am out of space, but the sd card is empty... |
| 21:24.17 | _Bala_ | well then transfer the files to the SD card... |
| 21:24.42 | kan0 | you can install packages to the SD card, it is one of the targets on the package manager |
| 21:26.33 | Zylogue | kan0: the problem is that I can not get them ONTO the Z to install them... the sd card is empty adn i run out of space in system mem.... |
| 21:26.43 | Zylogue | running OZ 3.2 |
| 21:31.14 | _Bala_ | Zylogue: what are you using to transfer the files?? |
| 21:31.44 | Zylogue | Intellisync, from my XP machine. I got a small one transferred, and manually moved it to the sd card... |
| 21:32.15 | _Bala_ | cant you tell it to transfer directly to /mnt/card ? |
| 21:32.42 | _Bala_ | i've never used intellisync? |
| 21:34.17 | Zylogue | no... |
| 21:35.27 | _Bala_ | can you make some room by uninstalling some things.. |
| 21:35.38 | _Bala_ | then you can reinstall them on SD |
| 21:36.27 | Zylogue | I have installed OZ/opie and synced with my outlook, no mail...and damn near filled it up with contacts and callendar events... |
| 21:37.02 | _Bala_ | hmm |
| 21:38.38 | _Bala_ | you can always just use a scp client to transfer files directly to the SD card... |
| 21:38.44 | _Bala_ | like WinSCP |
| 21:39.52 | Zylogue | oh? i was not aware there was an ssh server integrated into OZ... |
| 21:40.01 | Zylogue | that is execellent... |
| 21:40.02 | _Bala_ | yeah |
| 21:40.13 | _Bala_ | thats what i use |
| 21:40.35 | Zylogue | what else in integrated like htat? got a AMP solution on there, too? |
| 21:40.51 | yeiazel | yes |
| 21:41.01 | Zylogue | AMP == Apache/MySQL/PHP/PERL/PYTHON |
| 21:41.21 | yeiazel | just install the packages |
| 21:41.27 | Zylogue | I was only joking...but shit, I need to check that out... |
| 21:41.45 | yeiazel | there is also a zope package somewhere on the web |
| 21:41.52 | yeiazel | and you can install samba |
| 21:42.01 | yeiazel | and don't forget to install scummvm and some scumm games |
| 21:42.25 | Zylogue | scumm? |
| 21:43.21 | Zylogue | where is a good place to get these form? |
| 21:44.37 | yeiazel | any abandonware website, i think... |
| 21:44.44 | yeiazel | you know scumm games, do you ? |
| 21:45.29 | Zylogue | no, I do not... |
| 21:47.27 | yeiazel | Indiana Jones, Monkey Island, Day of the Tentacle, Sam&Max... |
| 21:47.41 | Zylogue | hmmm. will have to look for those... |
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| 22:51.35 | PlsHelp | do all software in the world of linux come in .tar.gz? |
| 22:52.21 | yeiazel | .tar.gz means "tar-file gzipped" |
| 22:52.40 | yeiazel | tar means "tape archiver", it archives a bunch of files in one single file |
| 22:52.45 | yeiazel | gz is a compression tool |
| 22:52.53 | yeiazel | there is also bz2 |
| 22:53.04 | yeiazel | or other crappy ones as zip, rar, arj, etc. |
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| 22:53.53 | PlsHelp | yeiazel: ok,so there are no linux software that comes in ipk format,ie.instant installation... |
| 22:53.56 | PlsHelp | ? |
| 22:54.27 | yeiazel | yes there are |
| 22:54.36 | yeiazel | you just search the wrong way :) |
| 22:54.54 | yeiazel | first, you should search on the official openzaurus feeds (with aqpkg) |
| 22:55.01 | yeiazel | next, search on killefiz.de/zsi |
| 22:56.33 | meshuga | anyone used subapplet on 3.3.6? |
| 22:56.46 | PlsHelp | all these come in .tar.gz if im not wrong,checked them out already.anyways,i want to learn how to install .ytar.gz? |
| 22:57.14 | PlsHelp | im a newbie,not so bright too,so any help will be highly appreciated |
| 22:59.45 | meshuga | no they dont |
| 22:59.47 | meshuga | they come in .ipk |
| 23:00.27 | meshuga | wtf |
| 23:01.02 | PlsHelp | ic...cos all the searches i get for linux hardware for Z is .tar.gz. ,and i seem clueless how to install them. |
| 23:01.03 | meshuga | 3.3.6pre1 was being lame, so i flashed back down to 3.3.5. now on the 'tap anywhere to continue' screen, it has a cursor above the text on the left blinking, and wont respond to any of my taps |
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| 23:01.21 | meshuga | wow, you have hardware in .tar.gz.? impressive |
| 23:04.38 | PlsHelp | i cant seem to get th e ipk format, im new to linux and i want to learn everything abt linux but i need to get my zaurus connect to the net first n foremost,learning linux will come later...i need a crash course or some help to get setup first,urgent! |
| 23:05.18 | meshuga | you should learn linux first. |
| 23:05.23 | meshuga | then learn zaurus. |
| 23:05.27 | meshuga | yo kergoth |
| 23:05.33 | kergoth | hey |
| 23:05.52 | meshuga | you ever heard of a problem where the 'tap anywhere on the screen to continue' screen doesnt let you click anywhere on the screen? |
| 23:06.01 | meshuga | just has a cursor above the text, on the left |
| 23:06.13 | meshuga | 3.3.6pre1 was fine, but 3.3.5 is not wanting to go past this |
| 23:06.39 | PlsHelp | meshuga: i know i should,and i would but i need to got zaurus connected to net first,then i will learn linux at my own pace.really would apppreciate help here,thanks!anyone? |
| 23:09.39 | kan0 | connected how? wifi, bluetooth, Ir ? |
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| 23:13.17 | meshuga | oh weird |
| 23:13.20 | meshuga | tis crashing to a prompt |
| 23:13.28 | meshuga | yet i cant type in anything via kb |
| 23:13.30 | meshuga | strange |
| 23:13.46 | PlsHelp | kan0: my hardwares are, Z sl5600,orinoco gold pcmcia card,adapter for cf slot,kismet installed,but now stuck coz i dont know how to config kismet,network,and also not sure if drivers are present,they should be for orinoco coz the linux version contains orinoco drivers,or so they say. |
| 23:13.52 | PlsHelp | can u help?? |
| 23:13.57 | MG_Tak | kergoth: have you heard anything about aqpkg trying to install a package 3 times rather than 1? |
| 23:14.35 | meshuga | orinoco gold pcmcia card and the adapter from pcmcia to compactflash? |
| 23:14.38 | meshuga | thats klunky. |
| 23:14.40 | kan0 | kismet isnt for net connections, it is to discover various types of wifi hardware. |
| 23:15.52 | PlsHelp | <meshuga> orinoco gold pcmcia card and the adapter from pcmcia to compactflash? |
| 23:15.53 | kan0 | you will need to check that the card had is recognised by zaurus, you may need to change files in /etc/pcmcia/* |
| 23:16.15 | PlsHelp | that is correct,i want to keep my orinoco card,its been a loyal friend |
| 23:16.17 | PlsHelp | :) |
| 23:16.41 | kan0 | once you have the card up, you may need to mess with wep, but I would turn wep off on the access point to start playing, it is easier |
| 23:16.43 | meshuga | PlsHelp : type 'dmesg' in konsole and see if it shows up |
| 23:22.47 | PlsHelp | ok..typed dmesg.. |
| 23:23.22 | PlsHelp | a whole lot lines came up,what info do u need me to furnish u from that? |
| 23:24.51 | kan0 | if you plugged in the card recently, you should have some info from the pcmcia drivers/daemons |
| 23:25.02 | PlsHelp | cs: 5V card! but only 3.3V |
| 23:25.29 | PlsHelp | the above came up in the codes...i thought i beeter furnish u with this info |
| 23:26.18 | kan0 | at a guess, the card needs 5v, but the zaurus can only supply 3.3v or it is configed up at 3.3v |
| 23:27.46 | PlsHelp | yes...i guessed as much,but does that mean i cant use the card in Z? coz the adapter i bought from semsons' clearly says that orinoco gold pc cards are compatible.... |
| 23:27.55 | PlsHelp | :( |
| 23:28.26 | kan0 | compatible yes, in a device that can do 5v |
| 23:29.59 | PlsHelp | http://www.semsons.com/comflastopcc.html |
| 23:30.31 | PlsHelp | check out the link above and at the bottom,theres a compatiblity list ,pls click on that. |
| 23:30.57 | kan0 | did you read the bit marked with "***Warning***"? |
| 23:31.58 | PlsHelp | yes ,i idi...pls click on compatibilty list at the bottom of page...u will understand what i mean |
| 23:32.41 | kan0 | yeah, but what I mean is that in devices that provide 5V rails, the Orinoco will work and is compatible |
| 23:34.12 | kan0 | you can check by getting a pcmcia->CF adaptor and plugging your adaptor in, although it will look horrid :) |
| 23:34.27 | PlsHelp | oic, coz cf slots are industry standard 3.3v. and the adapter is INTENDED for pda cf slot use,so it should also mean that..the disclaimer is misleading? isnt it? |
| 23:34.55 | PlsHelp | then at the compatibility page, they claim orinoco gold is compatible...my god |
| 23:35.04 | PlsHelp | its totally contradictort! |
| 23:35.05 | PlsHelp | :( |
| 23:35.20 | PlsHelp | contradictory |
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| 23:38.32 | treke|laptop | not all pcmcia cards need 5vs |
| 23:39.03 | treke|laptop | so the ones that don't would work if the device only provided 3.3 |
| 23:39.56 | PlsHelp | treke|laptop: another bad purchase.Geez..:( |
| 23:40.31 | PlsHelp | so theres no way it can be made to work,thru software hack,or additional power source,maybe? |
| 23:40.34 | PlsHelp | :( |
| 23:42.43 | meshuga | doubtful |
| 23:42.52 | kan0 | for what it would cost you may as well get a cf wifi card |
| 23:43.07 | PlsHelp | when i check for status,it shows up as "lucent technologies","wavelan","IEEE"... |
| 23:43.24 | PlsHelp | that gave me hope it would work,but now |
| 23:43.32 | PlsHelp | it seems hopeless |
| 23:43.37 | kan0 | detected, not enough juice to drive |
| 23:44.58 | PlsHelp | can i sofmod the pda to give 5 volt..or softmod card to reduce to 3.3v |
| 23:45.22 | PlsHelp | just trying all options i have?what do u think? |
| 23:46.20 | kan0 | cant reduce the card, you may be able to introduce an extra power supply, but you would have to open the adaptor and solder in the power. but that would only work if the 3.3v/5v rail isnt switchable/shared, else you will end up making lots of black smoke |
| 23:47.05 | kan0 | although you could break the power line back to the z, but then if you plug a 3.3 device in, you will wont know untill you feed it and blow it up |
| 23:48.09 | meshuga | wtf. anyone had a problem with the 'tap screen to continue' on inital bootup of 3.3.5 on a collie? |
| 23:48.18 | PlsHelp | so it sounds like a totally BAD idea then.Guess i may have to sell my orinoco gold,which im reluctant to,its been agreat pal. |
| 23:48.50 | PlsHelp | how much does orinoco go for oin yr part of town? |
| 23:49.11 | meshuga | $40 |
| 23:49.13 | meshuga | if that |
| 23:50.36 | PlsHelp | oic, reluctant but i may have to...to get dosh to get cf wifi card |
| 23:50.53 | PlsHelp | semsons took me for a sucker.. |
| 23:50.55 | PlsHelp | :( |
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| 23:53.17 | kc8pxy | i had usbd problems with 3.2.. have those been resolved with 3.3.5?? |
| 23:59.31 | PlsHelp | kan0 and meshuga and treke|laptop: Just want to thank you guys for helping me, really appreciate it. Thanks a million! |