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00:36.40sunnyhey guys
00:36.49sunnywhat if I change my OZ to login as a user ?
00:36.52sunnydoes that break things ?
00:36.56treke|laptopyes
00:37.29sunnyoh
00:38.39sunnyI don't know why, but even on my PDA doing things as root makes me queasy, heh
00:38.50treke|laptoppatches welcome :)
00:39.16sunnyok
00:39.18sunnyhere goes :)
00:41.51sunnyhah
00:41.53sunnyit got suck on
00:41.59sunnyopenzaurus login:
00:42.37treke|laptoppermissions are broken.
00:43.04sunnywell, I can type characters .. but only by mashing buttons around, nothing coherent
00:44.20sunnyand now my Z won't startup, heh
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02:11.16MG_Taknyah
02:11.19MG_Takgoddamnit
02:11.24MG_TakI always type in the wrong window
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02:39.12brontoshey all
02:39.49brontoswhat packages are required for opie-mediaplayer2?
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12:13.10sunnywhy can't one use SD/MMC for updating ?
12:13.27ses0mw0rkno
12:13.47sunnyI'd like to know why, heh
12:15.06sunnythe update menu on my 5600 gives it as an option
12:24.19sunnyalso
12:24.24sunnyhow does one type the | key ?
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14:37.54michkaHello, did anyone succeed to join a wep protected AP with OZ (last stable opie - 5500) and lynksys WCF12 ? works fine in only open mode with me
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17:14.59brontosHey all
17:15.07brontosI am having some issues with OZ
17:15.18kergothokay, elaborate
17:15.26brontosSeems like every now and then OZ loses my network settingfs
17:15.37brontosI have to reflash to get them back
17:15.49brontosare there any issues with this?
17:16.24brontosit is almost like OZ does not see any networking devices
17:17.31brontosbtw I am using a netgear wireless nic
17:31.20brontosany ideas?
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18:02.06brontosso does anyone else have an issue where the wireless nix is lost?
18:05.24MG_TakUsually aqpkg loses all my package info and I suck up all of my root space first. :p
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20:23.06DarkSSJhi all
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21:10.13jeroen_hi, I remember reading something about hw scaling is the c7x0 series to change the res. to 320x240, anyone knows more about this ?
21:12.13ljpa bit
21:12.28jeroen_so, it possible, right ?
21:13.00ljphmm, I believe so
21:13.18jeroen_tell me what you know, please, any pointers ?
21:13.29jeroen_I'm trying to get mplayer work better
21:13.30ljpnot much more than that, really
21:13.42jeroen_well, i'll keep searching
21:13.50ljpsash is the guy to talk about that, he does the cacko roms
21:14.34jeroen_I'll ask him, how does cacko use this option ?
21:15.14ljpnot sure
21:15.19jeroen_does kino2 use it maybe ?
21:15.36ljpthere's not a lot of details about the display chip and the hw stuff
21:16.08jeroen_I can't seem to find anything at all..
21:19.01jeroen_FYI, I'm trying to make something like Movix, to play movies from sd/cf when booting
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21:28.36Wemblyhelloish?
21:29.39Wemblyi just flashed my zaurus to 3.3.5 and it dosnt seem to want to boot :/
21:31.20ljpdid you also flash a kernel?
21:31.27ljpyou might want to try 3.3.6
21:32.17Wemblyi have a zImage and a initrd.bin
21:32.25Wemblywhere do i get 3.3.6?
21:32.39kan0Wembly> not zImage.bin ?
21:32.50Wemblyummm nop
21:32.53Soopamanhmm.. what is a good linux hex editor?
21:32.55Wemblyshould it of been labled that?
21:32.59kan0and updater.sh
21:33.08kan0Wembly> yup
21:33.11zakkSoopaman: gghex
21:33.12zakk-g
21:33.24Wemblythatd be the problem :)
21:33.27Wemblywhere can i get 3.3.6 btw?
21:33.43kan0Wembly> 3.3.6: http://www.openzaurus.org/official/experimental/
21:34.50kan0which model btw?
21:34.55Wembly5500
21:34.58Soopamanzakk, know of any for command line?
21:35.04zakkvim
21:35.07kan0ahh in that case it may be zImage
21:35.39kan0there should be an FAQ entry about flashing on the oz site
21:36.02Wemblydoh
21:38.31Wemblyyea it should of been just zImage
21:40.11Wemblyhow does 3.3.6 order go?
21:40.52Wemblywhat is this 3.3.1-2.4.21-gcc1?
21:42.08kan0something to ignore by the sounds
21:43.17Wemblyk
21:43.28Wemblyis there something that is required todo to go from version 2.x to 3.x?
21:43.33Wemblyof sharp's rom?
21:44.05kan0not played with 5500, so going beyond me now
21:44.20Wemblydrat
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22:10.34gecko_x2anyone here using affix?
22:10.43gecko_x2hi :)
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22:47.57michkaHi, may I ask a question ?
22:48.27mickeylDon't ask to ask, just ask.
22:49.08kergothheh, our rules here are similar to the rules on #kernelnewbies, except for the 'be polite' one
22:49.11kergoth:P
22:49.31mickeylPlease don't ask to ask, just ask.
22:49.40mickeylbetter ? :D
22:49.52michkayes forgot this... I have a 5500 OZ and latest opie and a WCF12. I can only connect an open AP wep fails, no idea ?
22:49.59kergotherr, what i mean is, #kernelnewbies has a rule that you should be polite.  we dont have that rule
22:50.03kergothheh
22:50.08mickeylkergoth: ah hehe :))
22:50.17kergothmickeyl: by design :)
22:50.51mickeylmichka: wep seems best to be configured through the commandline. this is not zaurus specific though, you should google for linux wavelan settings etc.
22:51.25kergothmickeyl: heh, you know if networksettings has radio buttons to select hex vs ascii yet? most users dont know about s:
22:51.40michkaI've done the configuration modifying the pcmcia/wireless.conf adding the wep key no luck
22:51.57mickeylkergoth: iirc it has those things. ljp added them.
22:52.04kergothuh, thats the wrong place. wireless.opts or interfaces is better
22:52.07kergothmickeyl: ah, cool
22:52.28mickeyl(or at least he wanted to do it... sometimes he doesn't do things he claims to do ;)
22:52.33kergothhehe
22:52.40kergothi have that problem too
22:52.46kergoth"yeah i'll fix the qte keyboard this weekend.."
22:52.47mickeylwe all
22:52.56mickeylhehe, yeah the qte keyboard is kind of an extreme example ;))
22:53.18michkaI may be confused by the file names but the fact is that I can select the right AP ssid doing this modification so the file I modified seems to be the correct one
22:53.54kergothuh, no. the fact that it works doesnt indicate that its the correct way of doing it
22:54.00kergoththats flawed logic
22:54.02michkatrue :)
22:55.09michkaI'll put it another way, is my problem something well known (not the fact that Im unable to configure this of course)
22:57.20mickeylthat problem came up on the mailing lists
22:57.25michkaadditionnaly in the network settings the profile tab is disabled (opie 1.03/OZ 3.2)
22:57.28mickeylpeople figured out how to do it
22:57.43mickeylprofile tab is not implemented. networksettings lacks a maintainer :(
22:57.49michkaI'll go there and check
22:58.02mickeyltake a look at opie@handhelds.org and openzaurus-users@lists.sf.net
22:58.03michkaOh I see
22:58.15michkathanks
22:58.18mickeylnp
23:04.39MG_TakProbably not the easiest thing to start with though.
23:04.56mickeylnetworksettings?
23:04.58mickeylwell...
23:05.13MG_TakProfile and a tab applet that can turn the card off
23:05.16mickeylthat should get a rewrite if you ask me
23:05.32MG_TakEither way, not the easiest. :)
23:05.36mickeyltrue
23:05.58kergothhis implementation of profiles was pretty sane.
23:06.02kergothjust uses interfaces mappings
23:07.53meshugaanyone ever have oz 3.3.5 drop you to a openzaurus: prompt on inital bootup after flash? on the 'tap screen t continue' screen?
23:08.52kergothsounds like you didnt flash both kernel and rootfs, or you didnt full reset after flashing
23:10.33meshugafull reset == hitting the button under te battery cover then the tab, closing battery cover, flicking that tab, and powering on?
23:10.56kergothyes
23:11.11meshugahm k i'll try again
23:11.45meshugaand initrd.bin is rootfs and zImage of course is kernel?
23:11.48meshugai know those are valid
23:12.43kergothdepends on what model.
23:13.05meshugasl5500d
23:13.17kergoththen yes
23:14.15meshugacool, flashing now
23:15.25meshugawhat exactly does full reset do?
23:32.27meshugahrm, same thing.
23:32.44meshugaits weird i cant even use the keyboard to type 'root'
23:32.52meshugathe ok button makes a ' ' ' ' '
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