| 00:00.14 | nopal | and I say always, because now I am sadly draining my internal battery to give a shot to the plain sharp rom or the zynergy |
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| 00:01.09 | nopal | Fare: actually, i could do the experiment of installing a distro, let's say thekompany again, do *NOTHING*, sync and reboot |
| 00:01.19 | nopal | if that fails, then something is fishy. what do you think? |
| 00:04.21 | Fare | try |
| 00:05.08 | nopal | Fare: trying... |
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| 00:08.51 | alakdan | anyone using sl b500 (the jap version of 5600) ? |
| 00:09.20 | nodens | mhmm... I got a *lot* of 404 on treke.net |
| 00:09.37 | nodens | seems like this site is really messed up right now |
| 00:10.08 | nodens | I found the exported buildroot, but no kernel-headers, and no download page |
| 00:10.42 | nodens | is there a mirror somewhere ? an alternate site ? |
| 00:11.11 | alakdan | im just wondering if the if the boot menu of 5600/b500 is similar to this http://downloads.conics.net/pda/zaurus-sl-c700/service-menus/ |
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| 00:16.35 | nopal | Fare: installed synergy, synced and rebooted <wish me luck...> |
| 00:18.12 | Fare | luck would be you suddenly get a clue and stop being a geek and chase girls instead |
| 00:21.05 | Fare | depends. If it syncs in the background (bdflush, kupdated properly configured) and/or if you use a journalled filesystem, it might work without explicitly syncing |
| 00:25.34 | nopal | I see Fare, thanks |
| 00:26.51 | nopal | Now, comes the next issue, I installed the usbnet scripts on my fedora box, do I have to do something on the Zaruus side so it uses the USB for it's network when I connect it to the computer? |
| 00:27.21 | Fare | I think you don't |
| 00:27.36 | Fare | that said, I never discovered where the automatic IP address was configured |
| 00:27.54 | Fare | so I had to do something nonetheless so as to use an IP address of my liking |
| 00:28.20 | nopal | I see. |
| 00:28.26 | Fare | (and most importantly, of Windows' liking, for Windows by default will only route 192.168.0.x addresses) |
| 00:29.04 | Fare | you might have to do something on the desktop side |
| 00:29.16 | Fare | check that your Z has an IP with ifconfig |
| 00:29.35 | nopal | ok |
| 00:31.06 | nopal | yep, 192.168.29.201 |
| 00:31.10 | nopal | :P |
| 00:31.22 | nopal | let me ping |
| 00:32.21 | nopal | network is unreachable ... |
| 00:33.12 | nopal | I think I need to add a route. |
| 00:33.46 | nopal | Fare: do you know where the equivalent of /etc/sysconfig/network/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 is in a zaurus? |
| 00:33.54 | Fare | local route is automatic |
| 00:34.07 | Fare | nopal: I just told you I didn't know :( |
| 00:34.16 | Fare | grep might help you |
| 00:34.24 | Fare | use it in a wiser way than I did |
| 00:34.35 | nopal | thanks fare... looking into it |
| 00:35.12 | Fare | usual suspects are in /etc |
| 00:38.16 | nodens | nopal, it is debian-based, so it will be /etc/network/interfaces |
| 00:39.54 | alakdan | last drakx |
| 00:41.42 | Fare | note that for faster search, you can download a .tar.gz of the contents into your desktop and grep into it |
| 00:41.54 | nopal | fare and nodens thanks |
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| 00:43.09 | TCMAN | hi |
| 00:43.34 | nopal | nodens: I am using Zynergy, /etc/network doesn't exist |
| 00:44.00 | nodens | doh... I thought you were using oz :) |
| 00:44.41 | Fare | nopal: what does grep say? |
| 00:44.52 | Fare | (maybe the IP address is hardwired in the module?) |
| 00:45.06 | nopal | nodens :) tnx, for the moment I am not so brave to use oz... I wil eventually :) |
| 00:45.22 | nopal | Fare, I found sysconfig |
| 00:45.42 | kergoth | and you're trying to get help with your non oz rom in this channel why exactly? |
| 00:46.23 | nopal | kergoth: I apologize |
| 00:46.42 | kergoth | no big deal, just sayin |
| 00:48.24 | Fare | kergoth: what def-config should I start from? |
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| 00:49.37 | kergoth | def-config? |
| 00:49.51 | kergoth | oh, you're using buildroot. you're largely on your own, its unsupported. |
| 00:49.57 | Fare | darn |
| 00:50.00 | Fare | what's supported? |
| 00:50.03 | kergoth | use whatever you want. depends on what you need. |
| 00:50.18 | kergoth | the new system, which doesnt yet produce a bootable rootfs for the Z |
| 00:50.44 | Fare | are there docs? |
| 00:50.51 | Fare | I don't need a bootable rootfs |
| 00:50.55 | kergoth | yep |
| 00:51.01 | Fare | I must boot on an ad-hoc ramdisk anyway |
| 00:51.02 | kergoth | see the oe-doc repos on openembedded.bkbits.net |
| 00:51.08 | kergoth | initial pass docbook documentation |
| 00:51.12 | kergoth | run make and read up |
| 00:52.35 | Fare | bk clone bk://openembedded.bkbits.net/oe-doc ? |
| 00:52.47 | kergoth | yep |
| 00:52.58 | kergoth | then 'oe' is the actual tools, and 'packages' is the metadata for the packaeges to build |
| 00:53.06 | kergoth | (we keep them independent, unlike buildroot) |
| 00:53.56 | Fare | should I just rm -rf buildroot-oz ? |
| 00:54.08 | kergoth | .. |
| 00:54.11 | kergoth | if you arent going to use it |
| 00:54.20 | kergoth | keeping your hard disk clean is your business, not mine |
| 00:54.33 | Fare | :) |
| 00:54.49 | Fare | is it also bk clone to update my repository? |
| 00:54.52 | kergoth | the new system has a ton more packages than the old one ever did |
| 00:54.53 | kergoth | no |
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| 00:54.58 | peewai|zaurus | hi |
| 00:54.59 | kergoth | cd repo; bk pull; bk -r co -q |
| 00:55.04 | kergoth | read the faqs on bitmover.com |
| 00:55.10 | Fare | ok, thanks |
| 00:55.21 | kergoth | at current count the new systme produces around 720 ipks |
| 00:55.39 | kergoth | course it builds multiple versions of a number of things, so that isnt quite an accurate count :) |
| 00:55.40 | nodens | seems nice... usable yet or ? |
| 00:56.02 | kergoth | i use the new system to maintain a linux distribution at my work |
| 00:56.06 | kergoth | so yes, i'd say so |
| 00:56.48 | kergoth | now the package sthemselves probably need tweaking and integration work to be up to the level of their buidlroot countaerparts |
| 00:56.58 | kergoth | so itd be great if people could produce packages with teh new system, and play around with them |
| 00:57.02 | kergoth | see whats missing and what isnt |
| 00:57.05 | kergoth | peewai|zaurus: no. |
| 00:57.10 | peewai|zaurus | :( |
| 00:57.32 | kergoth | and there wont be until oz 3.6.1 releases. thats a LONG way off |
| 00:57.47 | kergoth | the next testing release, 3.5.1, will support it, however |
| 00:58.11 | peewai|zaurus | already tried but it was very unusable |
| 00:58.25 | peewai|zaurus | i mean a previous vers of course |
| 00:59.36 | kergoth | well obviously. if it was stable, it wouldnt be an experimental release |
| 00:59.40 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:59.45 | peewai|zaurus | lol i assume |
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| 01:07.09 | nodens | phew. clone etc finished. compile time now |
| 01:07.18 | nodens | that was soooo long :) |
| 01:09.59 | nodens | ouch. 300+ warnings in collie_defkeymap.c |
| 01:10.04 | nodens | and error. |
| 01:10.44 | nodens | I must have an include pb... |
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