| 00:00.00 | tomtaylor | back again. what happend with the gameboy-thing? |
| 00:09.36 | *** join/#openzaurus MrZaius (~cragos@c-617e73d5.045-65-6c756c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 00:09.40 | MrZaius | hey |
| 00:09.52 | MrZaius | what all's new in opie 1.1.1, and is it pretty stable? |
| 00:10.24 | mickeyl | http://cvs.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/opie/ChangeLog?rev=1.8&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup |
| 00:10.34 | mickeyl | 1.1.x series is unstable |
| 00:10.40 | mickeyl | 1.2.x series will be stable |
| 00:10.52 | MrZaius | unstable like it crashes frequently, or unstable like it's labled unstable? |
| 00:11.00 | Pendalar | every other .1 they go on a drinking spell? |
| 00:11.03 | mickeyl | no idea. never tried |
| 00:11.34 | MrZaius | doesn't seem like very many people have at all |
| 00:11.49 | MrZaius | or at least, it doesn't seem like many people have and are awake at the moment |
| 00:11.51 | mickeyl | yeah. few people compile their own releases |
| 00:11.58 | MrZaius | there's binaries |
| 00:12.02 | bkw-laptop | sometimes when I start my z and the enter passcode window popups it just seem to freeze |
| 00:12.09 | MrZaius | opie.org has binaries compiled for oz under gcc 3.x and 2.x |
| 00:12.11 | bkw-laptop | and I cannot do a shit |
| 00:12.31 | MrZaius | bkw-laptop: just sometimes? everything's normal the other times? |
| 00:12.46 | bkw-laptop | ok, often! |
| 00:13.21 | bkw-laptop | like now, I cannot even turn off the z |
| 00:13.34 | bkw-laptop | donno why this happen |
| 00:13.46 | MrZaius | bkw-laptop: try and reproduce the error on the cradle |
| 00:14.02 | MrZaius | or while it's set to connect to the/a network in some other manner |
| 00:14.06 | MrZaius | and then see if you can ssh into it |
| 00:14.19 | MrZaius | it might help to know if opie's dead, or if the zaurus has completely crashed |
| 00:14.25 | bkw-laptop | no I couldnt do that yesturday |
| 00:14.32 | bkw-laptop | ssh to it when it freezed |
| 00:15.09 | MrZaius | and you're pretty sure the network connection was set up right/didn't require any changes on the Z side to make it work? |
| 00:15.46 | MrZaius | (I've found 3.3.5 and subsequent versions occasionally forget the default ip for the usbd0 interface, but that's probably not the problem) |
| 00:15.48 | bkw-laptop | yes |
| 00:16.03 | MrZaius | okay.... well, so much for that, then. |
| 00:16.16 | MrZaius | what version of OZ, and have you upgraded the locking mechanism? |
| 00:16.22 | MrZaius | oh, and does this happen with the lock turned off? |
| 00:16.51 | bkw-laptop | this happend yesturday when it turned it on in the bay, but also happens now removed from the bay |
| 00:17.09 | bkw-laptop | version 3.2 |
| 00:17.22 | bkw-laptop | locking mechanism ? |
| 00:17.32 | MrZaius | whatever the pin cody thing is called |
| 00:17.34 | MrZaius | I never use it |
| 00:18.12 | MrZaius | way I figure, if someone that knows what they're doing steals mine, there's no important data on it, and even if it was super-secure, they could just reflash it |
| 00:18.56 | bkw-laptop | how do I upgrade the passwd checker ? |
| 00:19.10 | MrZaius | depends. can you get it running at all? |
| 00:19.24 | MrZaius | ibot: where is oz 3.3.4? |
| 00:19.25 | | well, oz 3.3.4 is http://www.opie.us/opie/devZone.php/initrds/OZ-Opie-1.02/ , a nice new version using opie 1.02. OZ 3.2 with updated opie |
| 00:19.26 | bkw-laptop | I've to take out the battery and restart. |
| 00:19.52 | MrZaius | if you can get it running long enough to back things up and reflash, you might try the above |
| 00:19.59 | MrZaius | or oz-3.3.6-pre1 |
| 00:20.12 | MrZaius | I'm assuming you have an SL-5500 or 5000 |
| 00:20.19 | bkw-laptop | 5500 |
| 00:20.31 | MrZaius | on my 5500, both of the aforementioned OZ builds have been remarkably stable and well behaved |
| 00:20.46 | MrZaius | and they both come with 1.02 or 1.03 builds of opie, so that might solve your problem |
| 00:21.06 | MrZaius | if it doesn't, then it's time to file a bug report or two |
| 00:21.10 | bkw-laptop | could you please explain a little more in detail what need to be done |
| 00:21.16 | MrZaius | might wait an hour or three and see if USian people wake up |
| 00:21.23 | MrZaius | the devs might have some better ideas |
| 00:23.38 | bkw-laptop | MrZaius: what do you recommend me atm ? |
| 00:23.47 | MrZaius | depends |
| 00:23.57 | MrZaius | do you have info on the zaurus that's vital and not backed up? |
| 00:24.08 | MrZaius | if not, I'd reflash to OZ 3.3.4, linked to above |
| 00:24.08 | bkw-laptop | no |
| 00:24.17 | MrZaius | if you do, then I'd wait and see what more competent people have to say |
| 00:24.29 | MrZaius | cool. well, good luck |
| 00:24.36 | MrZaius | I'm gonna run on off to bed now |
| 00:24.36 | mickeyl | g'night |
| 00:24.41 | MrZaius | night |
| 00:24.59 | bkw-laptop | is 3.3.4 testing ? |
| 00:25.18 | MrZaius | sorta, but not really |
| 00:25.23 | MrZaius | it's a stable opie release |
| 00:25.25 | MrZaius | 1.02 |
| 00:25.29 | MrZaius | and it's the kernel from OZ stable |
| 00:25.34 | MrZaius | best of both worlds |
| 00:26.00 | MrZaius | still built with gcc-2.x, too, so it's compatible with all the regular 3rd party ipks and opera without a compatability layer |
| 00:26.21 | bkw-laptop | hmm |
| 00:26.23 | MrZaius | the 3.3.6-pre1 build mentioned in the topic is the current cutting edge distro |
| 00:26.35 | MrZaius | it's built with gcc-3.x, which breaks compatibility with a lot of things |
| 00:26.41 | bkw-laptop | I can only find 3.2 and 3.3.5 for download on oz site |
| 00:26.52 | MrZaius | it'll all be nice and clean in a couple of months, when everything's rebuilt for it |
| 00:27.03 | MrZaius | but for now, it's not easy enough to use for me to mess with it |
| 00:27.11 | MrZaius | (no cross compiler that I can easily use) |
| 00:27.23 | MrZaius | ibot: where is oz 3.3.4? |
| 00:27.24 | | oz 3.3.4 is probably http://www.opie.us/opie/devZone.php/initrds/OZ-Opie-1.02/ , a nice new version using opie 1.02. OZ 3.2 with updated opie |
| 00:27.28 | MrZaius | ibot: where is oz 3.3.6-pre1? |
| 00:27.29 | | I think you lost me on that one, MrZaius |
| 00:27.52 | MrZaius | ibot: oz 3.3.6-pre1 is at http://openzaurus.org/official/experimental/ |
| 00:27.53 | | MrZaius: okay |
| 00:28.13 | MrZaius | bkw-laptop: personally, what I use is oz 3.3.4, distributed by the opie project |
| 00:28.16 | MrZaius | it's rock solid, so far |
| 00:28.20 | tomtaylor | the correct link for the 5500 is: http://www.openzaurus.org/official/experimental/collie/3.3.6-pre1-2.4.18-gcc3/ |
| 00:28.23 | MrZaius | and I've been using it for months |
| 00:28.39 | bkw-laptop | MrZaius: I get connection refused on that link |
| 00:28.42 | MrZaius | yup, but it oughta be more generic in ibot |
| 00:28.46 | MrZaius | which one? |
| 00:28.47 | bkw-laptop | k |
| 00:28.56 | bkw-laptop | http://www.opie.us/opie/devZone.php/initrds/OZ-Opie-1.02/ |
| 00:29.03 | MrZaius | unless you're talking about the www. bit |
| 00:29.11 | tomtaylor | I'll give opie 1.1.1 a try. Opie 1.1.1: http://opie.handhelds.org/feed/openzaurus/unstable-gcc3/SL5xxx/ |
| 00:29.26 | MrZaius | that's weird.... |
| 00:29.34 | MrZaius | bkw-laptop: I can't hit it right now either |
| 00:29.38 | MrZaius | but it worked yesterday |
| 00:29.41 | bkw-laptop | hmm |
| 00:29.42 | MrZaius | looks like the whole site might be down |
| 00:29.48 | MrZaius | give it an hour or two |
| 00:30.02 | MrZaius | or google for opie and see if they've moved |
| 00:30.44 | bkw-laptop | MrZaius: are you talking about oz 3.3.4 ? I guess it's a rom with opie and all the stuff I've in 3.2 ? |
| 00:30.46 | bkw-laptop | right ? |
| 00:30.52 | MrZaius | yeah, pretty much |
| 00:30.56 | MrZaius | think 3.3.5, but stable |
| 00:31.11 | MrZaius | (3.3.5 crashed all the time and had numerous other minor glitches on my 5500) |
| 00:31.27 | MrZaius | 3.3.4 is stable, runs the 3.3.2 kernel, but an up to date build of opie |
| 00:31.32 | MrZaius | well, kinda up-to-date |
| 00:31.34 | MrZaius | 1.02 |
| 00:31.43 | MrZaius | there's a 1.03 out there, too |
| 00:31.49 | MrZaius | but the difference is minor |
| 00:32.19 | MrZaius | I'm gonna run on off to bed, now. got class in 7 or 8 hours, and it'll take me an hour or two to get up and get over there |
| 00:32.23 | MrZaius | wish me luck |
| 00:32.27 | bkw-laptop | hmm, Iam running 0.9.3snapshot from what I can read now |
| 00:32.27 | MrZaius | and tom, |
| 00:32.48 | MrZaius | tomtaylor: would you mind emailing me your thoughts on opie 1.1.1 after you've played with it? |
| 00:33.02 | tomtaylor | sure |
| 00:33.11 | tomtaylor | whats your email? |
| 00:33.14 | MrZaius | there's a build in the opie feed |
| 00:33.17 | MrZaius | cragos@myrealbox.com |
| 00:33.19 | MrZaius | thanks |
| 00:33.20 | bkw-laptop | MrZaius: shouldnt I be able to find oz 3.3.4 roms on oz site ? |
| 00:33.29 | MrZaius | bkw-laptop: I don't think so |
| 00:33.37 | MrZaius | it was built by the opie people, I believe |
| 00:33.38 | bkw-laptop | strange |
| 00:33.44 | bkw-laptop | ahh |
| 00:33.57 | MrZaius | but try that site again in an hour or two |
| 00:34.02 | MrZaius | or... |
| 00:34.05 | MrZaius | can you get dccs? |
| 00:34.13 | MrZaius | I can send an initrd.bin and zimage, if you want |