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00:01.29CosmicRayI could use its updater with the OpenZaurus initrd and zImage?
00:01.48mickeylmaybe
00:03.05patternaccording to this -> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=7282525 hotplug is broken in 3.3.6pre1 (meaning you have to reboot your z in order to get usb networking to work if you didn't boot w/z in cradle), so i removed the hotplug package and installed http://openzaurus.org/official/3.2/feed/hotplug_2002_08_26-8_arm.ipk but now when i start /etc/init.d/hotplug i get an error "grep: /proc/hal/model: No such file or directory" and u
00:03.05patternsb networking still doesn't work w/o a reboot
00:04.48patternalso, unrelated to the hotplug issue, i'm seeing "cramfs: wrong magic" and "FAT: bogus logical sector size 381" when i boot
00:18.08CosmicRaymickeyl: initrd-gcc3.bin and zimage-husky.bin are the right downloads for a c760, yes?
00:18.20mickeylya
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00:19.56CosmicRaymickeyl: I can't get the D-M Service menu to work
00:20.15CosmicRaywhat is the trick here?  I'm holding D and M when I re-lock the battery but nothing happens
00:20.27CosmicRayif I hit on/off while holding it, I get the regular Japenese boot menu
00:20.39kergotheh?
00:20.50kergoth"service menu"?
00:20.54CosmicRaythe menu I need to resture a NAND backup
00:20.56kergothyou mean the diagnostics?  d+m isnt for diagnostics
00:21.01CosmicRaykergoth: http://downloads.conics.net/pda/zaurus-sl-c700/service-menus/
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00:21.44kergothyeah, thats what i figured
00:21.53kergothi dont think d+m is tthe right sequence tho
00:21.57CosmicRaywhat is?
00:22.06kergothdont remember
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00:22.07patterncosmicray, try holding down the "OK" key at the same time as the "CANCEL" key instead
00:22.38pattern(that's after you do a hard reset)
00:23.21CosmicRaypattern: that didn't do it either
00:23.27patternand actually, you can hold down the "OK" key and then push the "CANCEL" key
00:23.31patternwhat model z do you have?
00:23.37CosmicRayc760
00:23.42patternahh... it works on the 5600
00:25.37CosmicRaythere we go... if I hold it down and then plug in AC, it works
00:25.40CosmicRayD+M that is
00:25.46patternthere's some mention of the c760 sevice menu here -> http://www.nautilus6.org/operation/l3mobility/documents/wide-memo-nautilus6-zaurus-english-rom-00.txt
00:26.50mickeylwrong terminology all over
00:27.03mickeylupdater != service menu
00:27.10mickeylservice menu == keep out
00:27.13mickeylupdater == in
00:27.14mickeyl:D
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00:44.39CosmicRaymickeyl: working better now.  I did a NAND restore and then re-flashed...
00:44.47CosmicRayI now have at least received "Please wait: booting" :-)
00:45.38mickeylif you see "reconfiguring packages" you've won
00:45.52CosmicRayI do!
00:46.07CosmicRayand no taking that out of context :-)
00:46.19mickeylhehe
00:52.08patternany recommendations on wireless and ethernet cf cards that work well w/oz 3.3.6pre1 ?
00:53.04mickeyleverything prism, everything hermes-1, most symbol/spectrum
00:53.23mickeyleverything ne2000 compatible for wired
00:53.38patterncool
00:53.39patternthanks
00:53.49mickeyli have a billionton
00:53.52mickeylcheap and functional
00:57.23CosmicRaymickeyl: should I be using stable, testing, or unstable feed with 3.3.6-pre1?
00:57.58mickeyljust the one which is in the same directory as the initrd
00:58.37CosmicRaywhat is the difference between that and stable/testing/unstable?
00:58.52mickeylactually there are no global feeds anymore
00:59.05mickeylhow could they... we support too many different models
00:59.20CosmicRaycan't most of the ipkgs run on any machine?
00:59.34mickeylthey could yes.
01:00.02mickeylbut someone would have to split them up. it's easier to upload a whole feed and time and resources were always too limited to care about such things
01:01.32patternthere aren't any combination ethernet and wireless cf cards out there, are there?
01:02.18CosmicRayhmm...  how do I make the device see my SD card?
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01:05.07Meekanwhat isn't it seeing cosmic?
01:05.17CosmicRayMeekan: a Kingston 512MB SD card
01:05.30Meekandoes it have the modules loaded for the sd card?
01:06.27CosmicRay(vfat formatted)
01:06.27CosmicRaywhat modules should I look for?
01:06.27CosmicRaysharp_mmcsd_m          25936   1
01:06.27CosmicRayis that it?
01:06.30CosmicRay(from /proc/modules)
01:06.32CosmicRayinterestingly, dmesg shows this:
01:06.34CosmicRayVFS: Disk change detected on device mmcd(60,1)
01:06.36CosmicRay<PROTECTED>
01:06.38CosmicRayjffs2: attempt to mount non-MTD device 3c:01
01:06.42CosmicRayif that means what I think it does, the kernel is seeing it but something is awry
01:07.06erich141kingston 512mb SD card is working fine for me
01:07.24CosmicRaydo I need to reformat it with a different fs?
01:07.32erich141what FS is there now?
01:07.40CosmicRayvfat
01:07.48CosmicRayalso it has no partition table
01:07.52CosmicRay(dunno if that's a problem or not)
01:08.20erich141vfat should work, but I always put partition table there
01:08.51erich141run fdisk on /dev/mmcda and make a table
01:09.14erich141then format
01:10.16CosmicRaythat did it!
01:10.18CosmicRaythanks
01:10.21erich141np
01:14.50patternwhy does oz come with the pcmcia-cs and pcmcia-modules packages?  are those necessary for cf or sd cards?
01:15.02patternor can i delete those packages?