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00:28.21keenanok has anyone else had this problem
00:29.02keenani'm at the gpe login screen, and it's blue, and then i type in my password and it looks like it's going to start, but then it goes back to the login screen only this time it's white
00:29.20keenanand then it just keeps going back to the white login screen
00:29.34keenanand now i'll have to reflash it because there's no way to do anything
00:34.48Luke-JrDoes GPE work now?
00:35.11keenanstill reflashing
00:35.21Luke-JrI mean in general
00:35.26Luke-JrLast I checked, GPE was non-working
00:35.37keenanoh it works all right
00:35.50keenanstill a lot of little annoying things
00:35.51Luke-JrOn c760?
00:36.03keenani'm using a sl-5500
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00:56.34keenanhas anyone gotten vorbis to work in gpe-nmf?
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09:49.05bpeelhas the openzaurus stable feed disappeared?
09:51.09kergothall versions of oz prior to 3.5.1 were yanked for licensing, storage, and supportability reasons
09:51.32bpeeloh ok
09:51.43bpeelis 3.5.1 stable enough to use?
09:51.52kergothyou should be able to find them on other people's sites. we wont be bringing them back
09:52.09kergothits the first release of a development branch.
09:52.19kergothit may very well be extremely stable, but it could blow up as well
09:52.35kergoth5am
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12:30.44golpiraHi.  I just installed 3.5.1 GPE.  Looks nice.  Is there a feed to get more apps from?  How does GPE compare to opie in terms of stability and number of apps?  Will opie apps run under GPE?
12:32.07CoreDump|homethe feed is the normal 3.5.1 feed, Opie currently has more apps then GPE and Opie apps will *not* run under GPE or the other way around
12:47.07golpiraCoreDump:  You running opie or GPE?
12:47.14CoreDump|homeopie
12:49.18golpiraOK.
12:49.44golpiraI think I'll flash opie, and see how that compares to GPE.
12:50.00golpiraIs there any performance difference between the two?
12:50.06golpira(I have a 5500)
12:50.17CoreDump|homenope
12:50.25golpiraok.  thanks.
12:50.29CoreDump|homenp
13:08.56CoreDump|home<CIA-5> CoreDump  * r1.2395 packages/ (classes/image_ipk.oeclass meta/opie-image.oe):
13:08.56CoreDump|home<CIA-5> Change FEED_URI handling to store feeds in /etc/ipkg/*-feed.conf. Allow
13:08.56CoreDump|home<CIA-5> distribution specific feeds using FEED_URIS_openzaurus or FEED_URIS_familiar
13:08.56CoreDump|home<CIA-5> (see opie-image.oe for details). Add merge_feeds to opie-image.oe to store the
13:08.56CoreDump|home<CIA-5> feeds in ipkg.conf since aqpkg can't handle feeds in /etc/ipkg/*
13:09.11CoreDump|homeim nächsten ROM gibt es eine vorkonfigurierte ipkg.conf :)
13:10.57CoreDump|homeaaargh, wrong channwl
13:11.05CoreDump|homesorry!
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13:51.16XorAafternoon
13:53.42matsavhalhiya
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15:53.23awi see gpe and matchbox in the packages, even if i installed the opie image, can i install those and use either?
15:54.22CoreDump|homenope
15:54.48awoh... ok
15:55.34CoreDump|home:)
15:57.22XorAshould be able to install task-gpe-blah
15:57.49awso, yes? no? maybe?
15:58.11XorAI was told on zug it was possible, if you had space on your Z
15:58.16CoreDump|homeyou can't use GPE and Opie at the same time
15:58.33XorACoreDump|home: not even using VT's?
15:58.36awbut could you not log off one and start the other?
15:58.44CoreDump|homeXorA: AFAIK no
15:58.57XorAdamn zug info is wrong then :-)
15:58.58CoreDump|homeaw: that might work
15:59.40XorAas always with OZ, suck it and see :-)
16:01.21awyup... will have to try
16:04.35awone think i noticed is that the gpe image doesn't have many commands the opie one does, for instance mkfs and iwconfig (at least for the collie)
16:06.48XorAit has iwconfig
16:07.14awcould it be i chose the 24/8 image?
16:07.34XorAonly the kernel changes AFAIR
16:07.53XorAbut ive had my wireless card workingon my collie so iwconfig must be there
16:08.00awgpe?
16:08.04XorAyes
16:08.19awi had many lock ups here and there... u too?
16:08.47XorAaw: Ive only used it for an hour or so, but no lockups, Inormally use a C860
16:09.30awmay be that the 5000d just doesn't have the power it takes
16:10.03XorAaw: maybe, I notice something like 24 meg is used just toboot gpe
16:20.38awany disadvantages in using a 32-0 image if i have an sd for installing things_
16:20.43aw?
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16:36.53XorA|afkaw: 8 meg more ram
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16:45.02awthat would be an advantage then
17:05.45XorA|afkaw: I missed the smiley
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17:11.53ClosetPacifistHas anyone had any success mounting images with loopback? I'm trying out the instructions at http://openembedded.org/oe_wiki/index.php/SDCardAndWireless, but mount just complains that it isn't a block device, and losetup dosen't seem to exist on the Z. o.O
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17:22.36djarbAnybody know why attempting to mount a cramfs file results in "Block device required" on OZ3.5.1?
17:23.42ClosetPacifistI have that problem too, although with a ext2-formated file :\
17:24.44djarbWell, it doesn't say that -o loop is a problem...
17:26.00djarbI don't know what the code actually does, but it SHOULD report that as a separate error
17:26.26ClosetPacifistaie- I think it just ignores unused options though, and there's a flag-thingey in the busybox code which dictates whether it compiles loopback support
17:26.36ClosetPacifist(unused -o options that is)
17:27.24djarbthat could be it, then
17:27.46djarbHard to use zgcc if loopback devices are disabled though
17:27.48CoreDump|afkClosetPacifist: is was disabled, there is a newer busybox in the upgrade feed
17:28.43ClosetPacifistoh, cool, thanks!
17:28.56CoreDump|afknp
17:30.09djarbgreat, thanks!
17:38.42djarbaccording to ipkg, busybox is up to date
17:40.33ClosetPacifistthe new one's in the upgrade feed if you don't have that added, perhaps: http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.1/upgrades/
17:41.32djarbthanks
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18:02.15SuNIs there any place I can download Netfront?
18:02.22SuNOr is there a creator package like there is for Opera?
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19:33.15LordVan|Serverhi
19:33.22LordVan|Servergot a question: i just upgraded to 3.5.1
19:33.25LordVan|Server(gpe)
19:33.35LordVan|Serverand for some reason the ext2fs on my SD card got destroyed ..
19:33.42LordVan|Serveri tried repairing it with e2fsck
19:33.48LordVan|Serverbut now it won't work either ..
19:34.04LordVan|Serverany ideas why?
19:34.09LordVan|Serverand/or how to fix it again?
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21:12.11ClosetPacifistah- mayhaps I'm missing something, but it seems that the busybox in the upgrade feed wants to replace makedevs (and some stuff from modtools) - which, if you let it, causes the Z to not want to boot, heh. is there any way to perhaps make ipkg skip the files that are already in existance, maybe? my ar dosen't want to unarchive the ipkg for some reason
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22:14.34vegiestuHi folks.
22:16.23vegiestuNot sure if anyone's noticed lib symlinks to /mnt/card disapearing after renoot. But it looks like ldconfig cleans them out on startup before the sd is mounted.
22:16.48CoreDump|homeargh
22:16.57CoreDump|homei was wondering what was causing this
22:18.06vegiestuA fix is to shift sdcontrol (or whatever it's called) into rcS.d before bootmisc runs.
22:18.36kergoththat seems reasonable
22:19.11vegiestuThat fixes "#79: Zaurus loses symlinks to libraries installed on SD on reboot" on the bug tracker.
22:24.38vegiestuLooks like no maintainer is listed in the initscripts ipkg. Who do I talk to to get this fixed?
22:29.39ClosetPacifistergh, is the busybox in the upgrades feed supposed to contain a makedevs which apparently must override the existing one for the upgraded busybox to install?
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22:40.26vegiestuGoodnight folks.
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23:26.12Com[Plex]hiya
23:26.24Com[Plex]sup kergoth.
23:26.47Com[Plex]any word on fbvncserver-kmodule?
23:41.29awjust installed gpe image on a 5000d, i tried to configure wifi, and after entering settings, error comes saying cardcntl is not installed... any clues?
23:45.24awindeed it's nowher to be found... also, mkfs
23:45.35awthem both are there on the opie image

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