| 00:13.53 | *** join/#openzaurus jcurry (~jcurry@mcha-af047.taconic.net) |
| 00:14.18 | jcurry | um, will flashing a zaurus take longer if flashing from a 64mb cf card, instead of 16mb? |
| 00:14.28 | jcurry | it's been blinking for a while now... |
| 00:14.33 | hrw|tv | rather not |
| 00:14.38 | kergoth | if the lights are blinking, it isnt flashing the Z |
| 00:14.46 | kergoth | thats an indication that it failed to read the files off the card |
| 00:14.52 | jcurry | oh. |
| 00:15.03 | jcurry | so what *does* it do when flashing? |
| 00:15.05 | hrw|tv | I flash from 16MiB vfat partition of 256MiB cf card |
| 00:15.13 | kergoth | the mail light goes solid. |
| 00:15.17 | kergoth | and stays solid until its done |
| 00:17.54 | jcurry | gah, it isn't working. |
| 00:19.05 | jcurry | i downloaded the opie-image.rootfs.img, and called it 'initrd.bin'...and the zImage.bin.forPoodle, and called that 'zimage' |
| 00:19.09 | jcurry | that ios correct? |
| 00:19.11 | jcurry | is* |
| 00:19.44 | kergoth | if its blinking, either the image files are corrupt, or there's a problem with the filesystem or the card itself. |
| 00:19.48 | kergoth | it indicates read *failure* |
| 00:19.53 | kergoth | a file not being named right isnt a failure |
| 00:19.55 | jcurry | ok... |
| 00:19.57 | kergoth | it just wont flash that component |
| 00:20.00 | hrw|tv | zImage |
| 00:20.10 | jcurry | i need the i to be capital? |
| 00:20.19 | jcurry | damn... |
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| 00:25.45 | cinix | Should it be possible to flash the zaurus with only a zImage. Only to replace to the kernel and none of the root filesystem? |
| 00:25.59 | hrw|tv | yes |
| 00:26.03 | cinix | I think it erases the internal memory when you flash it, or at least indicates that it does |
| 00:26.13 | hrw|tv | atleast on collie it is possible |
| 00:26.14 | cinix | unless it only does that when you have an initrd file? |
| 00:26.50 | cinix | That would be definietly be nice. |
| 00:27.20 | cinix | I don't really understand the updater.sh file, but maybe it has most of the control over what happens. |
| 00:27.41 | kergoth | its a shell script |
| 00:27.48 | kergoth | that calls the flash write commands and everything |
| 00:28.16 | cinix | so if updater.sh calls all the commands, you need a working kernel and shell binary to reflash the PDA? |
| 00:28.30 | cinix | so if you somehow mess up the kernel is it possible to reflash with that method? |
| 00:28.52 | kergoth | the zaurus has an internal independent kernel and initial ramdisk for the flash process. |
| 00:28.58 | kergoth | its on the same partition as the maintainance menu itself. |
| 00:29.51 | cinix | oh sweet. |
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| 00:44.29 | jcurry | do i need the updater.sh script on the cf card? |
| 00:44.31 | jcurry | to flash? |
| 00:45.53 | hrw|tv | jcurry: which zaurus? |
| 00:47.54 | jcurry | hrw|tv, 5600 |
| 00:47.59 | jcurry | it doesn't flash! |
| 00:48.07 | jcurry | and I have no idea why... |
| 00:48.25 | hrw|tv | 5600.. cannot help |
| 00:48.34 | jcurry | i can't rename the zimage file to zImage, it changes to lowercase when I copy it to the cf card... |
| 00:48.46 | jcurry | i assume that's due to fat16? |
| 00:49.10 | hrw|tv | yep |
| 00:49.24 | hrw|tv | that FS doesn't have case sens names |
| 00:49.30 | hrw|tv | by default |
| 00:51.06 | jcurry | hmm...well, i put all three files on the cf card, shutdown, and followed the directions at openzaurus.org... |
| 00:51.18 | jcurry | but both lights keep blinking |
| 00:51.28 | kergoth | once *again*, if the lights are blinking, it is NOT A PROBLEM WITH THE FILENAMES |
| 00:51.36 | kergoth | how many times do i have to tell you that? |
| 00:52.12 | kergoth | jcurry: and the instructions on openzaurus.org where? afaik the only correct instructions are in the openembedded.org wiki. check the 5600 instructions there. |
| 00:53.10 | jcurry | kergoth, ok...just mentioning all the info |
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| 00:53.26 | jcurry | i got the instructions from http://www.openzaurus.org/oz_website/content/installguide |
| 00:53.30 | jcurry | are these outdated? |
| 00:53.44 | kergoth | those instructions are for 5500 only. |
| 00:53.57 | kergoth | thats the old web site. there's a reason it was taken down |
| 00:54.05 | kergoth | openzaurus.org no longer shows you that info |
| 00:54.05 | jcurry | oops :) |
| 00:54.11 | jcurry | I found it through google |
| 00:54.11 | kergoth | again, hit the openembedded wiki |
| 00:54.13 | kergoth | those are correct |
| 00:54.25 | jcurry | i'll use those |
| 00:55.29 | jcurry | you should put in a robots.txt, to stop google |
| 00:59.10 | jcurry | the oe wikie expressly stresses the capital I in zImage |
| 00:59.15 | jcurry | wiki* |
| 00:59.32 | jcurry | "Download the ROM image: zImage, initrd.bin, updater.sh. If the filenames are different, change them to the above or else the zaurus will not be able to find them. The filenames are case sensitive. Note the capital I in zImage, especially if copying to a vfat-formatted card." |
| 01:01.06 | cinix | I personally liked having access to those docs even though there outdated |
| 01:02.26 | jcurry | question: does flashing via usb work with a linux host? |
| 01:02.54 | jcurry | do i need qtopia desktop to do this? will qtopia desktop flash oe/oz ? |
| 01:03.12 | cinix | jcurry: I don't remember renaming my zimage to zImage and i know it started off as zimage on my machine. this was on a 6000 so if it's such a pain to rename it for some reason i wouldn't put it on the top of your list of things to worry about |
| 01:03.54 | cinix | I haven't seen any docs on flashing over USB yet. come across any i'd love to read them |
| 01:04.10 | jcurry | cinix, not a pain, and it seems to have flashed fine... |
| 01:04.23 | jcurry | but I was worried :) |
| 01:04.39 | cinix | don't blame you |
| 01:05.59 | jcurry | even though I got it 2 days ago |
| 01:07.17 | cinix | yea i've only had one a week |
| 01:09.12 | jcurry | how do i move the cursor right in vi? |
| 01:09.37 | jcurry | the right direction on the circle just prints a bunch of kernel messages |
| 01:09.40 | hrw|tv | press joypad right? |
| 01:09.45 | hrw|tv | use "l"? |
| 01:10.51 | jcurry | how do i type esc? |
| 01:10.58 | hrw|tv | press cancel |
| 01:11.18 | jcurry | that prints a bunch of kernel messages too. |
| 01:12.09 | hrw|tv | vi rulez |
| 01:16.20 | cinix | all the keys aren't mapped correctly on the 6000 if you aren't running off the stock rom anymore |
| 01:19.30 | cinix | hehe |
| 01:19.31 | cinix | all? |
| 01:19.33 | cinix | some |
| 01:19.35 | cinix | of |
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| 02:06.57 | tanq | anyone around |
| 02:07.07 | tanq | i'm trying to figure out where to setup infrared at |
| 02:09.04 | tanq | i see nothing that says ird... i looked in Network Setup and in WLANCOnfig |
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