| 00:11.49 | kergoth_ | hm? |
| 00:12.05 | blitzrage | oh, I just read the wiki which lists the known issues :) |
| 00:12.09 | blitzrage | in 3.5.1 |
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| 00:18.18 | MrZaius | I picked up a new 1gb sandisk CF card for my SL5500, replacing a 128mb from some other company, and now, whenever it resumes it ejects and reloads the card, causing my mp3 player to segfault |
| 00:18.29 | MrZaius | didn't ever do that eject/reload thing with the 128mb card |
| 00:18.32 | MrZaius | is there a quick fix? |
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| 00:20.37 | MrZaius | etc/oz_version: 3.3.4, the pre-OE build with opie |
| 00:20.56 | kergoth_ | 3.3.x isnt supported by us. |
| 00:21.01 | kergoth_ | but no, there is no quick fix |
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| 00:22.53 | MrZaius | problem likely to stick around in 351? |
| 00:23.07 | kergoth_ | the problem is likely a kernel issue. |
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| 00:27.05 | MrZaius | will 3.5.2 have a new kernel/possible fix? |
| 00:27.16 | kergoth_ | no. |
| 00:27.25 | kergoth_ | we're using sharp's kernel until we make the move to 2.6. |
| 00:29.06 | MrZaius | okay. is the problem one related to just specific cards/manufacturers, or is it a size issue? |
| 00:29.10 | MrZaius | (last question) |
| 00:29.28 | kergoth_ | neither. |
| 00:29.33 | kergoth_ | its likely a flaw in the kernel's pcmcia handling |
| 00:29.47 | kergoth_ | highly unlikely that it's specific to either manufacturer or size |
| 00:30.08 | MrZaius | so dropping in just about any other gigabyte cf card oughta fix it? |
| 00:30.25 | kergoth_ | once again, the problem isnt likely to be specific to manufacturer |
| 00:30.30 | kergoth_ | what part of that do you fail to understand? |
| 00:30.44 | MrZaius | hmm? |
| 00:30.45 | kergoth_ | if th eproblem isnt bound to manufacturer, then changing manufacturer isnt going to affect the behavior, now is it? |
| 00:30.50 | kolla | what's the problem? |
| 00:30.57 | kergoth_ | kolla: CF unmount/remount suspend/resume. |
| 00:31.04 | kolla | oh |
| 00:31.06 | MrZaius | if it's not tied to size or manufacturer, and the last card worked w/o this problem, it seemed a fair enough question |
| 00:31.28 | kergoth_ | if it isnt bound to size or manufacturer, then there's no way to say when it will occur and when it wont. |
| 00:31.37 | MrZaius | okay. |
| 00:31.38 | MrZaius | thanks |
| 00:31.42 | kergoth_ | isnt logic fun? |
| 00:32.56 | MrZaius | that would have worked as an answer to the question above. rough day? |
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| 00:33.21 | kolla | heh |
| 00:33.38 | kergoth_ | no, i like to make users learn to use their minds. an exercise in futility, certainly, but hey |
| 00:33.52 | kergoth_ | aw |
| 00:36.04 | kolla | mf.. my wlan card wont set its essid :P |
| 00:38.20 | kolla | perhaps it's broken :/ |
| 00:39.09 | kolla | tonights happening was the successfull buildt of a native toolchain (gcc-3.4.3) for the nslu2 :) |
| 00:39.46 | kergoth_ | 3.4.3? is that out? |
| 00:40.25 | kolla | November 4, 2004 |
| 00:40.25 | kolla | GCC 3.4.3 has been released. |
| 00:40.28 | kolla | :) |
| 00:40.32 | kolla | I assume that's a yes |
| 00:40.49 | kergoth_ | nifty |
| 00:40.52 | kergoth_ | i should add that to oe |
| 00:40.54 | kolla | it fixed my endian problems |
| 00:41.10 | kergoth_ | kolla: i got the gcc ipk that oe emits to work the other day :) |
| 00:41.18 | kolla | cool! |
| 00:41.30 | kergoth_ | yeah, oz will have a usable native development environment soon |
| 00:41.35 | kergoth_ | and of course openslug gets it as well |
| 00:41.44 | kolla | yes, that's really really nice : |
| 00:41.45 | kolla | :) |
| 00:42.07 | kergoth_ | course i'll never use it, but people keep requesting it, so.. |
| 00:42.09 | kergoth_ | :) |
| 00:42.12 | kolla | hehe |
| 00:42.47 | kolla | I think the slug is quite ok to build on |
| 00:43.11 | kolla | but then I'm also used to building on m68k.. glibc on my 50MHz 030 takes like.. almost two weeks |
| 00:43.12 | kolla | :) |
| 00:43.14 | kergoth_ | bah, i'm too impatient for that |
| 00:43.24 | kergoth_ | i'lll hack on a package for hours to make it crosscopmile instead |
| 00:43.28 | kergoth_ | :) |
| 00:43.44 | kolla | last time I compiled glibc I went on holidays and checked in from various internet cafes every now and then :) |
| 00:43.50 | kergoth_ | HAH |
| 00:43.52 | kergoth_ | er |
| 00:43.52 | kergoth_ | hah |
| 00:43.56 | kolla | :) |
| 00:44.07 | kergoth_ | i've got a cygwin build going |
| 00:44.15 | kergoth_ | uclibc builds under cygwin take longer than glibc does under linux. |
| 00:44.17 | kergoth_ | how fucked up is that |
| 00:44.19 | kergoth_ | :\ |
| 00:45.43 | kolla | heh |
| 00:46.01 | kolla | what takes so much time with glibc, from my experience, is the iconv checks |
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| 02:04.06 | tanq | dog... i didnt know sharp withdrew from the us pda market |
| 02:04.12 | tanq | s/dog/soh |
| 02:04.17 | tanq | s/soh/doh |
| 02:04.25 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:06.21 | kolla | :) |
| 02:06.32 | tanq | i like the comment they made though |
| 02:07.18 | tanq | "It sucks, but if any community can handle themselves without a corporate support net, it's Zaurus users. Half of them are running modified and hand-rolled ROMs already""It sucks, but if any community can handle themselves without a corporate support net, it's Zaurus users. Half of them are running modified and hand-rolled ROMs already""It sucks, but if any community can handle themselves without a corporate support net, |
| 02:07.31 | tanq | oops.. i thought something weird happened |
| 02:07.44 | tanq | this dial up connection blows |
| 02:07.47 | kolla | :) |
| 02:08.20 | kolla | well, it doesnt help much with a community if there's no hardware available |
| 02:09.56 | kolla | one zaurus is enough for me though, find them a bit too akward |
| 02:12.34 | ljp | sharp has since retracted that statement a bit |
| 02:13.01 | kolla | oh, that was their statement? :) |
| 02:13.41 | kolla | perhaps Sharp should ask themselves _why_ half of the zaurus users run modified roms :) |
| 02:13.52 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:14.17 | ljp | http://www.engadget.com/entry/5707261058425784/ |
| 02:15.17 | kolla | palm is really putting an effort into creating devices that lacks the features I want :) |
| 02:15.35 | ljp | what features are that? |
| 02:16.07 | kolla | bluetooth, wifi and keyboard |
| 02:16.12 | kolla | that simple :) |
| 02:16.48 | kolla | can have two of them, but not all at once :) |
| 02:17.23 | ljp | why ot? |
| 02:17.25 | ljp | not |
| 02:17.58 | kolla | dont know, they simply dont have a model with both wifi and bluetooth |
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| 02:54.07 | tanq | hye i have a question... sometime yesterday when i was installing packages my network stuff got messed up |
| 02:54.27 | tanq | so now for my wifi i can see the network but my dhcp wont work |
| 02:54.37 | tanq | its like i can't get an ip address |
| 02:55.20 | tanq | the only thing in my settings now is wlan0, wifi0, and lo |
| 02:55.34 | tanq | my eth0 and all of the pp stuff disappeared |
| 02:55.40 | tanq | not that i really used them anyway |
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| 03:02.27 | tanq | any idea what i broke. |
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| 03:03.26 | kolla | eth0? |
| 03:03.40 | kolla | wlan0 is what you're supposed to use |
| 03:03.47 | kolla | if you have a wireless card that is |
| 03:03.55 | kolla | (which you obviously have) |
| 03:04.47 | tanq | yeah i type iwconfig and all is well |
| 03:04.54 | tanq | but i can't get an ip |
| 03:04.58 | kolla | I have a similar problem with gentoo though, it seems like iwconfig doesnt set the essid |
| 03:05.06 | tanq | it doesnt |
| 03:05.19 | tanq | you have to do iwconfig ath0 essid somessidhere |
| 03:05.41 | tanq | i wrote a script to set my network configs |
| 03:05.44 | kolla | well ,that's what I meant.. I can do that, but it sill says ESSID="" afterwards :) |
| 03:06.03 | tanq | i think you have to be root |
| 03:06.11 | kolla | anyways, I just chroot back to the internal flash and set up the network from there.. that still works :) |
| 03:06.17 | kolla | I am root :) |
| 03:06.22 | tanq | hmm |
| 03:06.33 | kolla | I'm rebuilding wireless-tools now |
| 03:06.33 | tanq | eh ? |
| 03:07.40 | tanq | i know i'm missing a step here |
| 03:07.52 | tanq | where do i go to actually start the netowrk |
| 03:08.27 | tanq | man i did a massive braindump on this.. see on my laptop i set iwconfig then do /etc/init.d/net.ath0 start |
| 03:08.43 | tanq | which is about equiv to ifconfig ath0 up |
| 03:09.07 | kolla | gentoo, huh? :) |
| 03:09.19 | kolla | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:09.25 | kolla | start |
| 03:09.48 | kolla | that's afaik how to start networking on the Z |
| 03:09.58 | tanq | ahh i have nothing in interfaces apparently |
| 03:10.02 | kolla | ath0? sounds redhat |
| 03:10.17 | tanq | it's just a name |
| 03:10.32 | kolla | a as in air? :) |
| 03:10.35 | tanq | atheros |
| 03:10.38 | kolla | oh |
| 03:10.51 | kolla | damn greeks :) |
| 03:11.06 | tanq | what do you have in /etc/init.d/network/interfaces |
| 03:11.46 | tanq | brb |
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| 03:16.24 | kolla | let me see.. |
| 03:18.05 | kolla | tanq: dont have that file at all.. |
| 03:18.30 | kolla | looks wrong to have something like that in /etc/init.d |
| 03:18.52 | kolla | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:31.50 | netsplit | Hi aTypical. |
| 04:32.06 | aTypical | Hi, netsplit |
| 04:44.41 | kolla | ah.. |
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| 05:46.56 | kc8pxy_ | is there anyway i can point qtopia desktop at the feed and have IT install the packages?? the host for my Z can see the net, and the Z can see any of the IP's of the host the cradle is plugged into, but the Z itself can't see the net. |
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| 06:22.33 | ljp | kc8: not with the current qtopiadesktop. but a new version will soon be available |
| 06:28.00 | kc8pxy_ | i found a solution :) wget -r :) |
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| 09:49.51 | Xyo|work | is it theoretically possible to recompile firefox, that it could work in opie? |
| 09:53.53 | hrw|work | Xyo|work: not |
| 09:55.40 | Xyo|work | unfortunatelly konqueror-embedded is still in 2003 :( |
| 09:56.09 | hrw|work | that's last version which build with qt/e 2.3.x |
| 09:56.45 | hrw|work | after qt/e 4 release opie team maybe will switch to it |
| 10:03.32 | XorA | Xyo|work: there is a kde effort to port firefox to QT, go use google and join in |
| 10:03.51 | hrw|work | XorA: to qt3 which opie doesn't use |
| 10:04.38 | XorA | hrw|work: thought the kdepimpi people had some conversion layer |
| 10:05.11 | hrw|work | XorA: they only get some functions from qt3 |
| 10:05.23 | hrw|work | XorA: similar to libqtaux2 from opie |
| 10:05.44 | XorA | ah well :-( |
| 10:06.16 | XorA | links -g works well on portait devices :-) |
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