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01:50.26mrz80Ok, what's up with openzaurus.org ?
01:52.53Pendalarlooks like they moved the site to a new registrant
01:54.31rdwtuxerrrm easydns is like a home dns, no?
01:55.32rdwtuxopenembededded.com is same
01:55.46rdwtuxerr openembedded.org
01:56.03rdwtuxthought they were on handhelds.org server
02:00.15Pendalarthat has nothing to do with registrant
02:04.25Pendalarg'night all
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08:33.53icemanThey
08:34.02icemanTwhich OZ release is better?
08:34.04icemanT3.5.1
08:34.07icemanTor 3.5.2?
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09:33.44CwiiisicemanT: Depends on your PDA and your choice of desktop - For collie with GPE, 3.5.1, otherwise 3.5.2
09:33.52Cwiiis(I think anyway)
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10:32.09icemanThey, y cant i acces OZ website?
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11:32.50icemanThey, anyone know if OZ 3.5.1 GPE package manager can update from the online feed?
11:35.03CwiiisicemanT: It's not recommended to use the gpe package manager in 3.5.1 - It lacks the ability to edit sources/dests and install to any dest but root
11:36.29icemanTcan u plz tell me how to install packages if not by package manager?
11:36.35CwiiisRead the release notes
11:36.58icemanTand another thing.....does 3.5.1 GPE has a suspend or reboot function?
11:37.19CwiiisType reboot in a console as root to reboot, hold the On/Off key to suspend
11:37.28CwiiisAt least, that's how it is on collie, I don't know about other machines
11:38.15icemanTwhen i installed 3.5.2 GPE....and pressed on/off button to suspen.....u couldnt turn it back on....does it have the same problem here?
11:38.55CwiiisYes, suspend/resume is broken for collie in 3.5.2 using GPE - I wouldn't recommend using 3.5.2 if you want to use GPE (3.5.3 will improve on all this, but is a while off)
11:39.25icemanTany idea when the OZ website will be back on?
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11:41.05CwiiisDon't know I'm afraid
11:41.14icemanTsorry to bother u guys w/ my questions......can i install opie software on GPE?
11:43.59CwiiisNope
11:44.15CwiiisOpie software is built to use libopie/qpe, GPE software is built to use x11/gtk2
11:44.39CwiiisI've not heard of anyone having much success running both opie and gpe on the same PDA, but it's perfectly possible
11:44.55Cwiiis(can have them running on different vt's, or have a boot-menu, for example)
11:45.15icemanTso let's say i go to the website "Zaurus software index" which has lots of Apps there...which ones will i be able to install?
11:45.23CwiiisIt'll probably get worked on when other higher priority things are finished, but there are an awful lot of high priority issues to be dealt with :p hehe
11:45.29CwiiisicemanT: None of them, probably
11:45.55icemanTdo u know any gpe software download sites?
11:45.58CwiiisicemanT: Some software from familiar ipkg find might work, but even then, probably not
11:46.11CwiiisBest to stick with the OZ feed, not much outside it will work, especially if you're using gpe
11:46.22icemanTok
11:46.29icemanTthanx for your help =)
11:47.00Cwiiisnp :) If you find any x11/gtk2 software that isn't already in OE, it's quite simple to add it when you get the hang of it - check out www.openembedded.org
11:47.10Cwiiis3.5.3 should have a lot more software for gpe though, hopefully
11:47.22Cwiiis(like working minimo and sylpheed, hopefully)
11:48.45CwiiisIf I'm happy with a few of the things I'm working on, I might upload a preview image somewhere and post about it on the forums - Not likely to happen soon though
11:53.22OSS542The Tierra port does quite nicely also
11:54.05OSS542is anyone out here using a WLI2-CF-S11 wireless NIC ?
11:55.14OSS542I'd like to use kismet with it, but it's beginning to look as if the NIC doesn't do monitor mode.
11:55.18mrz80Cwiiis: Is Ximian Evolution in there yet? :-)
11:55.30OSS542It uses the orinoco driver, which can be patched but.....
11:55.53OSS542the monitor mode doesn't show when I do the iwpriv eth0 thing
11:56.12Cwiiismrz80: Nope, although I think that's a bit overkill unless you plan on running Gnome on your PDA :p sylpheed-gtk2 does a good job and doesn't have any Gnome dependencies
11:56.20OSS542and kismet claims it can't get rfmon from it
11:56.54OSS542I've tried using sylpheed on the C700, but it just crashes
11:56.55mrz80Cwiiis: That would be a more sane approach, yes :-).  
11:57.04OSS542even with swap, iirc
11:57.10mrz80Maybe the best bet is a terminal session running Pine
12:01.37CwiiisI haven't tried sylpheed myself yet, but I've been told it works... Will try it out later possibly
12:05.12OSS542I'd be interested in what you find out.....just crashes here...can't even open a window
12:07.04mrz80I tried setting up GPE and Opie at the same time, along with moving / to SD.  It was Not a Happy Thing (tm).
12:07.32mrz80Running Opie and GPE at once on a 5500 is just plain impractical; there isn't enough CPU to go around.
12:07.57mrz80There are compat libs so's you can run one flavor's apps under the other environment, aren't there?
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12:14.49XorAmrz80: you can run Xqt onder opie to give you X
12:16.23mrz80XorA: Ah. Thanks for the info.
12:17.17XorAmrz80: it is in openembedded but not tried to run it yet
12:18.55XorAxqt.sourceforge.jp for the webpage
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12:39.37OSS542hm.......things are quieting down again
12:45.37XorAOSS542: what does your name stand for? my company makes a product call OS755 and you keep confusing me :-)
12:46.26OSS542only the stuff from the module_init() code.....how odd
12:46.33OSS542I am OSS542
12:46.37OSS542it stands for me
13:02.05XorAwhat you working on OSS542 ?
13:03.23OSS542just trying to study how the orinoco driver works....wanted to see why the RFMON wouldn't take on my WLI2-CF-S11
13:03.28OSS542also brushing up on modules
13:03.37OSS542and testing a Tierra port
13:03.57OSS542mostly just curiosity
13:04.51OSS542busy turning an ordinary C700 into a shirt pocket programmer's workstation...:-)
13:11.42XorAOSS542: heh heh cool
13:12.20XorAfor a while I used pdaXrom onboard dev kit
13:15.11OSS542I've heard of that one.....
13:15.34OSS542haven't tried it yet though
13:16.28OSS542I build the gcc 3.4.3 and the the rest of the C++ suite and set it up on my SD card
13:18.46OSS542built even
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13:39.19rzahas anyone got zerthereal working yet?//
13:44.45OSS542I have kismet built for the C700
13:48.50rzahas any1 been able to get zethereal working
13:49.47rzaalso does aircable work on oz or is there a sd bluetooth card or serial
13:52.21XorAthere are no SD bluetooth cards that work with OZ
13:53.01XorArza: check www.zaurususergroup.org in the forums for loads of info on what people have got working with OZ
13:56.25rzaok cheers
13:57.11rzai really need zethereal working does anyone know if it does work?
14:00.53OSS542not off hand...what do you want to use it for ?
14:02.49OSS542oops...looks like openzaurus.org has been hijacked by a domain name squatter
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14:25.05XorAw00t qpdf2 and mplayer built
14:25.21OSS542ooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!
14:25.44OSS542omedeto gozaimus
14:27.21OSS542omedeto gozaimasu
14:27.38OSS542the heartbreak of finger stutter
14:31.57XorApardon?
14:34.51OSS542daijyobu....shinpai shinaide kudasai....
14:35.37XorAmy japanese is non existant :-)
14:35.50OSS542ima neru no......oyasumi nasi....mata
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15:23.03hEximalany news on the website
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