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02:13.08timlinuxhi
02:13.34timlinuxopenzaurus no longer exists? Where can I get a rom from my 5600?
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06:41.31icemanThey guys, any way to change the name of the zaurus (collie) to something else?
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10:38.34Jlauren1: I recommend you quit and log on as other than root ;)
10:39.07XorAwhats wrong with root?
10:39.34XorAfor a laugh I once changed root no UID 1000 and renamed UID 0
10:40.59Jnothing I suppose... but I wouldn't log on using it :)
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10:41.47XorAJ: Administrator@windozemachine.adsl.com is a much more fun target
10:42.41JXorA: lol :)
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10:44.41lauren1openzaurus.org is down ?
10:45.02Jyeah, I think they forgot to pay the bill :)
10:45.13Jor re-register the dns :)
10:45.27Jis it a download you're after?
10:45.38lauren1not really
10:46.14lauren1just installed 3.5.2 and whas looking for more.....
10:46.42Jmore...? feeds? programs?
10:46.56Jinformation?
10:47.27lauren1found a nice how-to on setting up opie and gpe on the same Z
10:47.36lauren1was thinking to try
10:47.46Jwhich Z?
10:47.57Jor, rather, what Z do you have :)
10:48.06lauren1feeds however came from openzourus.org
10:48.20lauren1sl5500
10:49.06JI think the feeds are still accessible, but you've got to go through a sf url
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10:49.55lauren1sf url ?
10:50.09Jyeah, sf host oz
10:50.21XorAopenzaurus.sf.net/official
10:50.25JXorA: ta
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10:51.49lauren1ok i
10:51.59lauren1found it
10:52.43BlackRainwhat appened the the openzaurus site?
10:52.52lauren1miirrors still up
10:54.03BlackRainbut it will return or is dead forever?
10:54.03lauren1bye
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10:57.57XorABlackRain: will return, kergoth having problems transfering the domain
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10:59.55BlackRainbefore I flash my zaurus and lost an entire day can someone tell me if now gpe is stable for sl-5500?
11:00.23Cwiiis[uni]BlackRain: Not OZ3.5.2 - 3.5.1 is the best image for gpe on collie at the moment
11:00.46BlackRainbut i had many problem with OZ3.5.1
11:01.25lauren13.5.2 got the same problems.....
11:01.33lauren1in gpe...
11:01.49BlackRainfor example the calendar work only if I don't add any appointmets.....
11:02.20BlackRainso for now the best is still the opie image I suppose
11:03.04lauren1believe so
11:03.43lauren1i am now using the hentges rom
11:04.05lauren1most things work.....
11:04.17BlackRainI don't understand why is so difficut to port gpe to the zaurus...hentges?
11:05.28lauren1www.hentges.net
11:06.03lauren1oz 3.5.2 / opie 1.1.7
11:06.54lauren1with the cardfs everything will be installed on the SD
11:07.01lauren1handy
11:08.03BlackRainI have no problem with opie
11:08.16BlackRainnow i'm using it
11:08.38BlackRainbut I will prefer switch to gpe maybe the next relase
11:11.20lauren1next release .....
11:14.37icemanThey guys
11:15.08lauren1hey icemanT
11:15.15icemanTi have GPE, i found the 3.5.1 feed.....but how do i make ipkg recognize it
11:15.48lauren1recognice what
11:15.57icemanTor the package manager gui?
11:16.11icemanTi want the Z to install directly from the feed
11:16.15lauren1PM gui is not working
11:16.24icemanTwhich file do i have to edit to put the url of the feed?
11:16.42lauren1the /etc/ipkg.conf
11:16.50icemanTcommand line then...
11:17.30icemanT<PROTECTED>
11:17.30lauren1the file
11:17.33icemanTi edited it..... but what should i put for
11:17.36icemanT<PROTECTED>
11:17.40icemanTthe src-name?
11:17.52lauren1src sourcewhatsoever http://url
11:17.57icemanToh
11:17.58icemanTok
11:18.00icemanT=)
11:18.03icemanTthanx
11:18.11lauren1your elcoem
11:18.25lauren1elcoem=welcome
11:18.29icemanThehe
11:19.09lauren1did you tried the gpe 3.5.2 ?
11:22.22Cwiiis[uni]lauren1: OpenZaurus 3.5.2 you mean
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11:22.38Cwiiis[uni]icemanT: Look at the release notes for instructions on how to use ipkg
11:22.49icemanTwhere is that?
11:22.58lauren1yes, but then the gpe image...
11:23.03icemanTlauren1: i tried it...its unusable
11:23.05Cwiiis[uni]icemanT: On the webpage - which is just a link to the old OE wiki
11:23.10icemanTif u have a sl5500
11:23.21icemanTthe best way to go is w/ gpe 3.5.1
11:23.30icemanTok
11:23.35icemanTthnx =)
11:23.41Cwiiis[uni]np
11:23.52lauren1the webpage ?
11:24.00BlackRainIf you want an advice use opie I have tried gpe 3.5.1
11:24.07BlackRainand is very very unstable
11:24.12lauren1openzaurus.org ?
11:24.25BlackRainand I have an sl5500
11:24.35icemanTlauren1: http://openembedded.org/oe_wiki/index.php/OzReleaseNotes
11:24.44icemanTill flash opie then....
11:24.54icemanTdoes the PM work in opie?
11:25.00BlackRainyes
11:25.09icemanTthank god for that!
11:25.22BlackRainthe only think I'm not able to use is opiemediaplayer2
11:25.28BlackRainbut you can use xmms
11:25.36icemanTdid divx work on it?
11:25.45BlackRainand don't use konqueror of the 3.5.2 feed
11:25.49XorAonce upon a time I found an article that told you which nokia hand free kit just works with the Z, anyone got any clues?
11:25.52BlackRainuse the 3.5.1 one
11:26.08lauren1use opera
11:26.11icemanTok
11:26.23BlackRainthe 3.5.2 put the cache in /  
11:26.30icemanTdo i have to install any dependencies first?
11:28.54BlackRainif you want to use opera you need oz-compat
11:29.15lauren1yes?
11:30.03lauren1i used the hentges-rom, oz-compat is included
11:30.48lauren1you need the combat-lib also if you want the handcom apps.
11:31.51icemanTbtw, any way to change the Z name from "collie"
11:32.00icemanTthats a really terrible name
11:33.12lauren1quick flash, iceman
11:33.22icemanThehe
11:33.33icemanTconfiguring the network at the moment...
11:34.00lauren1gpe or opie
11:34.04icemanTopie
11:34.06icemanT3.5.1
11:34.09icemanT5500
11:34.17Cwiiis[uni]heh, no zaurus serial cables on ebay :/ Anyone got a spare? :p
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11:34.36icemanTheh
11:34.40lauren1whats wrong with 3.5.2.?
11:34.49icemanTwhats NOT wrong?
11:34.51icemanThehehe
11:35.03Cwiiis[uni]Lots og gpe-related bugs with the collie in 3.5.2... The majority will be fixed in 3.5.3 though
11:35.06Cwiiis[uni]*of
11:35.26RockClimberWhen is 3.5.3 due?
11:35.31lauren1opie works fine
11:35.55RockClimberAnd has the ToDO list for 3.6.0 been updated since 3.5.1 was released?
11:35.56Cwiiis[uni]March apparently - I might release a preview image when a few of the things I'm working on work
11:36.14Cwiiis[uni]Minimo is rather nice now and if I can get unionroot working and sort out suspend/resume, gpe will actually be pretty nice :)
11:36.26Cwiiis[uni](on collie, it's already nice on ipaq from what I hear..)
11:36.31RockClimberAny websites with free palmtop databases - data not software - in a format accessible on a Zaurus.
11:36.55icemanTguys, please change the name "collie"!!
11:36.56Cwiiis[uni]RockClimber: How do you mean free palmtop databases?
11:37.01Cwiiis[uni]What data?
11:37.03lauren1for the collie sl5500
11:37.03XorACwiiis[uni]: is that same suspend/resume problem PXA based had?
11:37.04BlackRainwhat is unionroot?
11:37.53Cwiiis[uni]XorA: what was the problem PXA-based had? Something's changed in the rootfs that completely borks suspend on collie, even in bootstrap-image - apm still works though
11:38.07Cwiiis[uni]BlackRain: Removes the need for ipkg-link :)
11:38.16RockClimberI remember stumbling across a website, with lots of databases for the Palm Pilot. All sorts of databases, from films, wine, geographical facts
11:38.21BlackRainoh this will be great
11:38.41Cwiiis[uni]RockClimber: Oh, ok... No idea I'm afraid
11:38.46lauren1back to work
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11:38.58XorACwiiis[uni]: if you suspended as a user then the machine locked up, you had to reset
11:39.17XorACwiiis[uni]: as a non root user
11:39.46Cwiiis[uni]XorA: Ah, collie has never had this problem :p hehe
11:39.47icemanTquestion, in other roms, i used to edit /etc/resolv.conf
11:39.57icemanTon opie, i cant find that file
11:40.05Cwiiis[uni]XorA: How was it fixed though, out of interest?
11:40.12icemanTi find a dir called /etc/resolconf/
11:40.24icemanTw/ other dirs in it
11:40.32XorACwiiis[uni]: someone made select work correctly on apm device
11:40.46XorACwiiis[uni]: well I assume that is the fix, I havent been able to build an image recently
11:41.08icemanTnevermind, fixed
11:41.20XorACwiiis[uni]: fix_tosa_apm.patch
11:41.58Cwiiis[uni]XorA: Will take a look later, thanks
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11:42.33Cwiiis[uni]I need to learn how to do some simple kernel hacking/debugging... I'd really like to fix apm on collie
11:42.43Cwiiis[uni]Fix it properly that is, rather than work around it :p
11:43.49ahnklehi - having problems with mediaplayer2, choppy sound
11:44.10icemanTgot the internet working on Z
11:44.26XorACwiiis[uni]: well the proper fix is 2.6.XX kernel :-)
11:44.29icemanTand successfully intergrated the feed ...
11:44.50Cwiiis[uni]XorA, heh, yeah :) Perhaps I should help driver development...
11:45.27XorACwiiis[uni]: wish I had time but the missus doesnt let me hack all night anymore :-(
11:46.36icemanTwill xine work on opie 3.5.1?
11:46.45Cwiiis[uni]XorA: hehe... Probably for the best really, health and all :p hehe
11:47.01BlackRainif you need only audio playback use xmms
11:48.55icemanTdoes opera exist in the feed?
11:49.33BlackRainno
11:49.36Cwiiis[uni]icemanT: No, it's not open-source
11:49.38ahnkleBlackRain: does it support mp3?
11:49.47Cwiiis[uni]Actually, I guess that isn't the reason...
11:49.53Cwiiis[uni]But it's not easily put in OE anyway
11:50.08BlackRainyes mp3 oggvorbis
11:50.38ahnklethanks: i got opera 7.3 running (with a little tweaking)
11:50.48BlackRainI used xmms last night for 50min and work great
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12:23.41icemanTquestion, when i install apps w/ the command line ipkg, do i have to reboot the Z in order for the apps to appear?
12:23.59dipnlikicemanT: no, just restart opie
12:24.05icemanThow?
12:24.13dipnlikicemanT: /etc/init.d/opie restart
12:24.17icemanTok
12:24.18icemanTthnx
12:24.20icemanT=)
12:24.21dipnlikicemanT: or use Setting, Shutdown
12:24.32dipnlikand restart opie :)
12:24.50icemanTwill do
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12:33.21icemanTguys, any idea of the package(s) for wlan monitor (not kismet or wellenreiter) just a monitor to discover networks and setup...
12:38.04XorAicemanT: SlapASS
12:38.05icemanTexists in feed?
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12:38.05XorAicemanT: no, buts its just an opie-sh script
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12:38.25XorAicemanT: lists the AP in your area and allows you to select one to associate with, it does rely on kismet to do the hnting though
12:38.39icemanTkewl
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13:57.07Cwiiis[uni]icemanT: You don't need to restart Opie, there's a QCOP command to refresh the icons - I can't remember what it is, but it gets installed by default in the hentges.net image I think... It should be in opie-sh-scripts or whatever the package is called
13:58.27ahnklehi - how do i start up zaurus as someone apart from root?
13:58.55absentiawhy woudl you want to do such a thing?
13:59.17ahnklebecause i just ran gaim and got a big warning when entering this channel :)
13:59.18Cwiiis[uni]ahnkle: I don't think opie works as non-root user - GPE does and does so by default too
13:59.39Cwiiis[uni]But there isn't a particularly usable gpe image at the moment :p hehe
13:59.45absentiaah... ya, some irc servers are really brain dead and won't even allow you to connect when it thinks you're running as root.
14:00.00absentiaon solaris, I use to make an account "notroot" with uid 0... and put it in just before root.
14:00.18ahnklecan i run gaim as non-root?
14:00.37absentiabut, can you imagine this, THAT BROKE SOLARIS on boot... as stupid scripts checked the user not by the uid, but by the username! if [ "$USER" != "root" ]; then bitch .... solaris is brain dead.
14:00.55absentiayes, that might be a better option...  simply run gaim as a non-root.
14:01.08ahnklesudo? would opie complain?
14:03.08Cwiiis[uni]ahnkle: I don't think sudo is on a base OZ image - su <user> -c qpe-gaim, I guess
14:04.43ahnkleta
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14:23.13ursUm, what happened to openzaurus.org? Any repository mirrors?
14:23.51brimstoneopenzaurus.sf.net
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15:56.50ursIs there a way to display all files (and dirs) contained in a package with ipkg?
15:57.34ursI've got the problem that I ran out of storage space when trying to install a package, now i can't seem to get it removed cleanly
16:07.15XorAipkg files package
16:11.43ursThat only works on installed packages.
16:12.08ursBut the space ran out before it could write its package info files...
16:12.18urs... so ipkg thinks its not installed.
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16:28.32LarsACcannot connect via usb, there is no usb0 network device on the linux box
16:28.37LarsACany ideas
16:28.38LarsAC?
16:30.21XorAurs: keep installing the package and it will list files it clashes with
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17:41.53[anonuk]whats the status of apache/mysql on openzaurus?
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18:36.03janciciwhy the openzaurus.org is not working ?
18:36.15kergothbecause i didnt pay the dns fees in time
18:36.18kergothshould be up shortly
18:36.31janciciokay
18:36.48janciciis  it possible to use IP ?
18:37.22kergothi take it you arnet on the mailing lists.
18:37.26kergothsourceforge hosts us.
18:37.31kergothhttp://openzaurus.sourceforge.net/
18:37.33kergothhttp://openzaurus.sourceforge.net/official/
18:38.28jancicithanks
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19:07.02jancicido openzaurus ROM support SL-6000?
19:07.46kergothno, it doesnt
19:07.53kergoththe SL-6000 directory in the downloads area is just to fuck with you
19:07.59kergothsame for the install instructions
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22:06.58mohandasDoes anyone know where to obtain the modules needed to access the Sharp Compactflash camera on OZ 3.2?
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22:26.04ursI've got a problem with the gpe login tool here...
22:26.18urs... it doesnt display any widgets anymore.
22:26.36ursJust its virtual keyboard, nothing else.
22:26.47ursAnd doesn't respond to anything.
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