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00:09.16Rupert-Giles:D
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04:10.55Genesishi
04:16.07Kingsleyhi
04:17.25KingsleyGenesis: ?
04:19.30Genesisnothing i wait after gawel
04:22.36Kingsleyokie
04:23.12Genesisdoes he go there often ?
04:23.13Genesis:)
04:23.32Genesisnevermind i 'll mail him
04:24.45Kingsleyk
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06:38.13Genesis++
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13:52.39univac^openzurus good works with ipaq h3800 ?
14:00.02Kingsleyhello univac^
14:00.08Kingsleywhat media player do you use?
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14:04.23univac^Kingsley: beep-media-player
14:05.18Kingsleyunivac^: no openzaurus?
14:05.20Kingsleyon*
14:05.32Kingsleywhat zaurus model do you have?
14:05.55univac^i havent zaurus
14:06.06univac^maybe i buy ipaq h3800
14:06.07Kingsley........
14:06.09Kingsleyah
14:06.16univac^and i don't know what the linux install
14:06.19univac^zaurus or familiar
14:06.32Kingsleyfamiliar
14:06.45univac^:>
14:06.45Kingsleyi dont' there there is an openzaurus port for ipaq
14:09.47univac^ipaq h3800 is good machine ?
14:09.49univac^;]
14:11.12Kingsleyi dunno
14:11.15Kingsleyprobably
14:11.19Kingsleyhp makes good machines
14:11.21Kingsleyalthough
14:11.34Kingsleyn/m
14:11.59univac^hmm familiar good run ath h3600/h700/h800
14:12.25univac^0
14:12.43Kingsleyo shit, suprnova is back
14:13.17Kingsleyunivac^: do you work for the RIAA?
14:14.38univac^no, i have 15 years old
14:14.44univac^O_o
14:14.50univac^:)
14:15.01univac^Kingsley: and you ?
14:15.15Kingsleyno
14:15.30Kingsleywhere do you get your music univac^
14:15.37univac^p2p
14:15.43univac^:>
14:16.11univac^i like bob marley , and techno, trance
14:20.38univac^Kingsley: maybe you have photo your pda and running linux on this ? :>
14:21.38Kingsleynope
14:21.45Kingsleybut i know take one now if you want
14:22.10univac^mhm if you have time...
14:22.23univac^;>
14:23.13univac^and, you take this photo ?
14:24.34Kingsleyhold on a bit
14:25.55Kingsleyits transfering
14:30.28univac^ok
14:30.37Kingsleycrap
14:30.45Kingsleyhold on a bit longer
14:34.57Kingsleyall done
14:35.07Kingsleyhttp://rkx.sytes.net/screenshots/open1.png
14:35.25Kingsley@#$@#4
14:35.29Kingsleyhttp://rkx.sytes.net/screenshots/opie1.png
14:35.39Kingsleythe first link is a bit off
14:36.12Kingsleyits not much since i dont' have alot of app. insalled'
14:36.15Kingsleyinstalled*
14:36.38univac^nice
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14:44.02Kingsley1hiya
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15:33.33ratFrom which feed may I get libqte2 (>=2.3.7, to quote my Z) from?
15:34.57Pendalarit's been awhile since I've fooled with it but you probably already have it
15:35.14Pendalariirc it's a bug, force the depends (if that's the only one missing) and see if it doesn't work anyways?
15:36.37ratokay, I'll try
15:40.08rathm, no I didn't try - the "embeddedkonsole" was installed before, but the package manager didn't seem to know. Anyway, with 3.5.2 I have many packages that don't install- due to missing depedencies or other weird problems:
15:40.40ratopie-mediaplayer2 does seem to be at two places, but actually he cannot download the one he chooses?
15:43.44Kingsley1rat: where is the download locaiton for opie-mediaplayer2
15:43.51Kingsley1i cant' find it anywhere
15:44.56ratThe preset location should be at http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.2/feed/opie/
15:45.30ratI really don't know why aqpkg says that it's there twice?
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15:59.35chuckrHello, anyone got an SL-C3000?  I don';t know how to install an image onto it, can't get to a pre-boot screen
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16:03.09Kingsley1chuckr: ?
16:03.18Kingsley1did you read the doc. on openzaurus.org?
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16:21.09ratI am yet working on opie-mediaplayer2; this package also demands libqte2 (>= 2.3.7)
16:22.32ratI am trying -force-depends - as Pendelar suggested
16:26.09ratunbelievable, after having /etc/init.d/opie restart the icon appeared, and it *seems* to work- I'll try some files now
16:33.51ratwtf? ./opt/QtPalmtop/lib/libqte.so.2.3.7 is there? So it seems that ipkg is confused and like I assumed before I does not seem to know about packages that are already installed. Is there a way to correct this?
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16:56.30ratanyway - it did play an mp3, but it sounded garbled
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17:13.47Pendalarplease spell my nick right
17:14.13Pendalar=-/ I've used the same nick for like 12+ yrs now and it just really urks me
17:14.30ratsorry
17:14.30Pendalarbut yes it's there, it's a bug, force the depends if that's the only depend giving a problem
17:14.45Pendalarshould be fixed in next release (or maybe current OE build?)
17:20.02lardmanR builds, but doesn't package... still work to do
17:20.41lardmanRandom comment for anyone interested in R :-)
17:21.56PendalarR.. isn't he that guy who's over the rebellion forces in MMX Command Mission?
17:22.04Pendalarhas a robotic parrot on his shoulder
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17:22.21lardmanhmm... :-)
17:22.41lardmanI was thinking more of this: http://www.r-project.org/
17:30.37ratNow I installed every available plugin from the official feed for xine, yet opie-mediaplayer2 is not able to play mpeg2 and mpeg4 videos, nor does mplayer start "libpostproc.so.0 cannot open shared object file"
17:31.07ratIs 3.5.2 somewhat broken?
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17:59.17Pendalarlibpostproc isn't a plugin
17:59.22Pendalarit's a library..
17:59.25Pendalarlook in lib or devel
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18:03.11ZratYes, mplayer is a different issue- yes there is such a lib, but it seems it is missing in mplayers dependencies
18:04.38Pendalarthat or is installed and not detected or symlink'd properly
18:12.37ZratYes, it wasnt symlinked
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18:39.15Zratmplayer works nice with -nosound, but not with -ao oss or sdl
18:52.36Zratbrb
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19:02.47Kingsley1hey
19:03.04Kingsley1what media player do you guys use on zaurus?
19:12.07Zratgood question
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19:12.37ZratI just managed to get mplayer running without sound
19:13.31Zratopie-mediaplayer2 does no video here, but plays "sound"- although it's garbage
19:15.48ZratI dont get it 'brickout' does play sound properly
19:28.53Kingsley1i see
19:29.01Kingsley1where did you get to download opie-mediaplayer2?
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19:38.28Rupert-Gileshai
19:39.21linuxbombhai
19:39.43Rupert-Gilesjust bought me a c3000
19:39.54Rupert-Gilesanyone got that model?
19:40.23ZratKingsley1: http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.2/feed/opie/
19:43.26Rupert-Gilesanyone got some wicked cool screenshots of their zaurus?
19:43.27Rupert-Giles:D
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21:53.45Capt_Eye1hi
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21:56.19Capt_Eye1hi tapo
21:56.32tapohi, are there plans about a openzaurus for sl-5500 with newer GPE?
21:56.34tapohi
21:56.43hrwtapo: oz 3.5.3
21:56.48tapowhen? :)
21:57.01tapohad hard trouble with familiar 0.8.1...
21:57.27tapogave up some minutes ago. flashing oz352/opie now
21:58.02hrwfamiliar is not for Z
21:58.25Capt_Eye1does anyone have some experience with sdl/opie ?
21:58.30tapohttp://familiar.handhelds.org/snapshots/v0.8.1/20050203/
21:58.45tapothey're trying to make images fpr the collie... sometimes.
22:01.27tapohrrrm, flashing stops after 15secs...
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22:08.28caffinatedhrw: i ran familiar on my Z, it worked ok
22:08.43taponot on my Z
22:08.43hrwcaffinated: you run packages from familiar
22:08.54caffinatedhrw: sure
22:09.23tapoma last try was a oz352 kernel with a familiar initrd. now I can't flash my Z with oz352/opie any more.
22:09.29tapo(crying)
22:09.49tapomd5sum of files is correct...
22:09.57hrwbasically familiar and openzaurus are build by openembedded so can packages can work - but oz are softfloat and fam are hardfloat so no exchange can be done
22:10.19caffinatedinteresting, i wonder why I was able then
22:10.34hrwthey can work
22:10.35tapois there a hardcore reset beside C+D+FULL_RESET?
22:10.52caffinatedthat's not a reset, that's flash
22:11.10caffinatedthe reset button on it's own should reset the Z
22:11.49tapoI can read the files from CF card and the md5sums are still ok
22:13.10caffinatedi've hit some problems with OZ352 and Opie - specificly when i switch between my 32mb CF card and my Wireless CF card.  sometimes the storage card doesn't unmount properly when the card is removed.  is this a known issue?
22:13.45caffinatedI can get around it by manually unmounting, but it's a pain
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22:17.21tapooh, looks like wrong name for initrd.bin
22:26.05tapowhats the best way to learn how to code opie programs? is there a good tutorial?
22:28.37hrwlook into opie wiki
22:31.03taposhould be linked on http://opie.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/ ... thanks
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22:46.47taporoot@collie:~# echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
22:46.49tapo:-)
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22:54.34xfzehi
22:54.59xfzewhere are the temp files of ipkg unpacked?
22:56.24xfzei tried to install an app of 3,1 MB but it run out of space during installing
22:56.24Kingsley1temp files?
22:56.26Kingsley1um.......
22:56.33xfzeand know i have /dev/root
22:56.39xfzefull and no app
22:56.53caffinatedprobably in /tmp if anywhere
22:56.57xfzei guess it just decompressed the .ipk somewhere
22:57.06xfzeno /tmp is no /dev/root
22:57.13xfzeis separated
22:57.23xfzeand even so i've looked already :D
22:57.47caffinatedi don't know about your install, but /tmp on my Z links to /var/tmp which is a ramdisk
22:57.58xfzeyes
22:58.11xfzeand /var/tmp is a partition tmpfs
22:58.19xfzeisn't on /dev/root
22:58.34xfzehas 15MB (on my sl-5600) and it's free
22:58.44xfzethe problem is the /dev/root
22:59.16xfzewich is now only 68k free (and i had to uninstall an app, it went 0)
22:59.51xfze22464kB used - 64kB free
23:00.09xfzei was supposed to have around 3600kB
23:00.38xfzenow i just need to find those space eating temp files =\
23:01.40xfzewell they shouldn't be in a single file but anyway can someone point me out a quick find command to find large files
23:02.08xfze(someday i'll study the manpage ;)
23:02.14xfzelol
23:06.44xfzeit isn't just me it seems:
23:06.45xfzeHowever, I can add that the ipkg -d /mnt/card install.... or its equivilant for Sharp ROM 3.10, ipkg -d /usr/mnt.rom/card install ..... doesn't work, because the temporary files fill up 100% of internal storage before the package is installed to SD. A workaround must exist, and I'm currently looking for a way to move the ipkg temp files to CF during the install.
23:10.37xfzewell there is a /home/tmp/ipkg/inst
23:10.46xfzebut its empty :S
23:10.55xfzestrange
23:15.24xfzeis it possible to find the largest folders?
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23:57.09xfzeFOUND IT =)))))
23:58.55xfzeit's /opt/QtPalmtop/etc/
23:59.22xfzeit was laying there a dir with almost 4MB temp files

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