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| 12:54.07 | RockClimber | If I build a new opie.image from the oe sources, can I use an existing zImage with it or do I need to build my own kernel too? |
| 12:55.03 | hrw|work | RockClimber: it will build kernel also |
| 12:56.39 | RockClimber | I know I *can* build the kernel, but as that's extra effort, do I have to? |
| 12:56.56 | hrw|work | it's part of building opie-image |
| 12:59.32 | RockClimber | so I need to download the 2.95 toolchain then |
| 13:04.27 | hrw|work | yep |
| 13:04.39 | hrw|work | opie-image contain kernel modules |
| 13:15.35 | RockClimber | what's a good package to build to test I have it all set up fine |
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| 13:21.31 | lardman | RockClimber: What, OE or the 2.95 toolchain? |
| 13:22.22 | lardman | the 2.95 toolchain is only for the kernel, so one of those in that case, otherwise nano is given as an example in the GettingStarted page on the wiki iirc |
| 13:23.13 | RockClimber | okay, at the moment I'm having issues with bitbake finding the bb moduk |
| 13:23.17 | RockClimber | moduk->module |
| 13:24.18 | RockClimber | I need to set the Python libs path somehow, or sym link the directory |
| 13:24.43 | lardman | bb module? |
| 13:24.57 | lardman | you have to add the bitbak/bin dir to $PATH |
| 13:25.07 | RockClimber | but the BB module isn't there |
| 13:25.18 | lardman | Other than forgetting that, I didn't have any troubles |
| 13:25.33 | RockClimber | it's in /usr/local/lib/python2.3/site-packages/bb |
| 13:25.58 | lardman | hmm, never seen that |
| 13:26.27 | RockClimber | and /usr/local/bitbake only contains "classes" and "conf" directory |
| 13:26.50 | lardman | oh, why have you installed to /usr/local? |
| 13:27.07 | lardman | or have things changed in the past fortnight? |
| 13:27.30 | lardman | I've got mine in /home/simon/dev/bitbake |
| 13:27.51 | lardman | and /home/simon/dev/openembedded |
| 13:28.14 | RockClimber | did you run the setup.py? |
| 13:28.23 | lardman | nope |
| 13:28.37 | lardman | I think things might have changed with bitbake in that case |
| 13:28.48 | XorA-lego | mine is in /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/bb/ |
| 13:29.03 | XorA-lego | it depends where your python expects to find site-packages |
| 13:29.33 | lardman | RockClimber: yep, I've just taken another look at the GettingStarted page and things have changed, sorry I can't help in that case |
| 13:30.34 | lardman | Annoyingly I can't actually run any setup.py scripts as I lack a Makefile for my version of Python (installed from rpm) |
| 13:31.18 | lardman | nor can I easily remove it and build a new version as much of Mandrake seems to depend on it |
| 13:32.52 | RockClimber | well I can switch to using it from /zaurus/bitbake/bin but I need to install Psycho first (I forgot) |
| 13:33.23 | dipnlik | hi all. how can i unpack a ipk package on debian? |
| 13:33.54 | lardman | dipnlik: ar -x <packagename.ipk> |
| 13:35.03 | RockClimber | Tried "bitbake nano" and I get ERROR: no files to build. |
| 13:35.19 | RockClimber | do I need to download the source code first, or should bitbake do that? |
| 13:35.20 | dipnlik | lardman: thanks. do you know what package contains ar? |
| 13:36.01 | lardman | RockClimber: bb should download it for you |
| 13:36.20 | lardman | dipnlik: No, sorry |
| 13:37.31 | RockClimber | is there a debug switch for bitbake to see where I'm going wrong |
| 13:39.22 | RockClimber | "ERROR: no files to build." |
| 13:42.21 | hrw|work | RockClimber: show your BBPATH |
| 13:42.39 | hrw|work | I usually start with "bitbake gcc-cross" |
| 13:42.51 | dipnlik | lardman: no problem, thanks |
| 13:46.19 | lardman | dipnlik: You might find it in binutils, but I imagine it'll be elsewhere too |
| 13:54.28 | RockClimber | "bitbake nano" seems to go on a bit |
| 13:54.41 | RockClimber | I thought it would be quick but it's downloading loads of bits and bobs |
| 13:55.00 | lardman | gcc & glibc |
| 13:55.07 | lardman | glibc takes ages |
| 13:55.40 | RockClimber | You mean it's building arm gcc and glibc first |
| 13:55.59 | RockClimber | does this only apply the first time you build a package? |
| 13:56.01 | lardman | yep, it should be building the cross-toolchain first |
| 13:56.19 | RockClimber | so in future it should be faster then? |
| 13:56.26 | lardman | it'll only happen once, then it'll skip though that section the next time you build something |
| 13:56.57 | RockClimber | do you know how to build the DAWG file from a wordlist? |
| 13:57.06 | lardman | no idea, sorry |
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| 14:28.27 | rLz_ | hello! my mplayer from the 3.5.2 feed refuses to play mp3 files, it's on a fresh install of OZ 3.5.2 on a SL5500, installed to RAM. |
| 14:29.57 | Cwiiis[uni] | rLz_: What happens when you try to play an mp3? |
| 14:31.17 | rLz_ | i can only hear some strange ticking sounds (hard to describe) and the system hangs |
| 14:31.32 | rLz_ | same happens when i play movies with mp3 sound |
| 14:31.53 | rLz_ | ctrl+c doesnt work, i have to kill it manually |
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| 14:32.21 | rLz_ | i tried the current version from the feed and an older by the way, maybe it's a library problem |
| 14:32.27 | rLz_ | (libmad I'd guess then) |
| 14:37.08 | hrw|work | rLz_: try "mplayer -ac mad file.mp3" |
| 14:37.43 | rLz_ | ok hold on a sec |
| 14:40.33 | rLz_ | hm |
| 14:40.49 | rLz_ | it can't find the codec for the audio format 0x55 |
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| 14:41.02 | rLz_ | but i do have a codecs.conf |
| 14:41.19 | rLz_ | wait# |
| 14:41.46 | rLz_ | Requested audio codec family [mad] [...] not available |
| 14:42.52 | rLz_ | but libmad0 is installed |
| 14:44.46 | lardman|away | Have you ipkg-link'd it? |
| 14:45.06 | rLz_ | yes |
| 14:45.13 | rLz_ | i just did it again to make sure |
| 14:45.38 | lardman|busy | mplayer from the feed works for me |
| 14:46.23 | lardman|busy | this is using the -ac flag? |
| 14:46.58 | rLz_ | hm.. i did the following: install opie, add devel feed, install mplayer from opie feed (it downloaded the req. libraries and installed them), ipkg-link the libraries & mplayer |
| 14:47.27 | lardman|busy | Could it just be that mp3 file? |
| 14:47.43 | rLz_ | i tried two mp3 files but I'll try a different one, just a sec |
| 14:47.51 | rLz_ | by the way, the mp3 works with xmms |
| 14:49.17 | lardman|busy | I was using mplayer on a c750, I don't know whether there'd be any difference |
| 14:53.29 | lardman|busy | you said you ipkg-link'd the libs. Did you do each by hand? |
| 14:53.38 | rLz_ | yes |
| 14:53.42 | lardman|busy | If so you might have missed one out, try 'ipkg-link mount /mnt/ram' |
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| 14:54.04 | lardman|busy | assuming that's where the ram mount is mounted |
| 14:54.07 | rLz_ | ok let me do that |
| 14:54.10 | rLz_ | yes |
| 14:54.52 | rLz_ | wtf |
| 14:55.01 | rLz_ | i just rebooted the Z and now it works with -ac mad |
| 14:55.06 | rLz_ | strange |
| 14:55.15 | lardman|busy | that's life |
| 14:55.28 | rLz_ | oh well at least it works :) thanks a lot |
| 14:55.32 | lardman|busy | np |
| 14:56.42 | RockClimber | i can't get glibc to build |
| 14:57.05 | RockClimber | there seems to be errors in the tar.gz |
| 14:57.19 | RockClimber | for libc_sources.redhat.com-20040624 |
| 14:57.41 | lardman|busy | what's the error? |
| 14:58.21 | RockClimber | a string of "Cannot open: No such file or directory" hundreds of them |
| 14:59.18 | lardman|busy | Is it a permissions problem? |
| 14:59.36 | lardman|busy | it's tried to extract somewhere, not been allowed, etc. |
| 14:59.57 | lardman|busy | I only mention that as things seem to be lurking under /usr now |
| 15:01.04 | RockClimber | it's extracting to /zaurus/sources |
| 15:01.09 | RockClimber | other things are extracting fine |
| 15:01.20 | RockClimber | if I download the tar I can't extract it either |
| 15:03.36 | lardman|busy | oh |
| 15:03.46 | RockClimber | I think I found the problem |
| 15:03.53 | lardman|busy | It's extracting to sources, or downloading there? |
| 15:03.57 | RockClimber | I'm doing all this on the serevr in my lab |
| 15:04.04 | RockClimber | which is a mighty beast that is underused |
| 15:04.21 | RockClimber | but I'm doing it on the OS hdd not the userspace |
| 15:04.27 | RockClimber | and the OS hdd is full :-( |
| 15:04.52 | lardman|busy | I trust you're not running as root |
| 15:07.50 | RockClimber | of course not |
| 15:07.56 | RockClimber | I have a user zaurus |
| 15:08.08 | RockClimber | but their home is on the OS disk not the /home disk |
| 15:08.15 | lardman|busy | ah, ok |
| 15:08.25 | RockClimber | I didn't want the whole oe setup backed up everynight to the HFS |
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| 15:08.54 | RockClimber | i found where the space went |
| 15:09.08 | RockClimber | someone made a backup of 30gb of data and stuck it on the OS disk |
| 15:09.43 | RockClimber | I just had to type "rm -rf backup/" |
| 15:09.46 | RockClimber | very scarry |
| 15:11.33 | RockClimber | It takes a bit of time to delete 22gb |
| 15:12.06 | lardman | I've become a little too blase using rm -Rf |
| 15:12.16 | lardman | I managed to delete a backup I wanted the other day |
| 15:14.35 | RockClimber | this also explains a few other problems that have occured to day |
| 15:14.51 | RockClimber | As soon a I find my Z I'll add a note "Don't fill server" |
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| 16:09.37 | RockClimber | fantastic, I have OE setup and working |
| 16:09.51 | RockClimber | is locale-uk Ukraine or United Kingdom? |
| 16:24.52 | hrw|work | ukraine rathe |
| 16:24.53 | hrw|work | r |
| 16:24.58 | hrw|work | uk is gb |
| 16:25.12 | hrw|work | united kingdom is gb |
| 16:25.29 | hrw|work | or ukraine as ua, and united kingdom as uk.. |
| 16:38.53 | RockClimber | there's a program I like, but it uses the $ symbol and I'd like to switch to £. What's the best way. Add an option to conf? Try and read a locale variable? |
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| 16:57.23 | hrw|work | bye |
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| 22:12.03 | TaZ | hello |
| 22:12.15 | TaZ | I have a problem to install OZ |
| 22:12.47 | TaZ | someone can help me please ? |
| 22:14.00 | TaZ | :( |
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