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| 00:04.04 | goony | http://www.juventus.com/uk/news/detail.aspx?lml_language_id=0&trs_id=1367000&ID=4239 |
| 00:04.16 | goony | hi at all :) |
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| 02:37.00 | caffinated | does oz support WPA-TPIK on the sl-5500? |
| 02:37.20 | caffinated | and if so, is there something i could read regarding configuring it? |
| 02:38.34 | caffinated | err sorry, WPA-TKIP |
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| 06:58.03 | pourriture | I have a 5500 and want to install the filesystem to SD ... but the link on the install FAQ is not a link at all ... what must I do? |
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| 07:24.01 | Com[Plex | uh. |
| 07:24.08 | Com[Plex | I wouldnt install the file system to sd.. |
| 07:24.26 | Com[Plex | the reason I wouldnt, is because sd is slow, and not stable. |
| 07:25.40 | Com[Plex | the latest revisions of the OZ rom do not consume ram and stuff like sharps rom and whatnot. so instead of flashing to rom to the flash area, and having it then copy its entire contents to the ram and run from there, it runs right from the flash area. |
| 07:26.07 | Com[Plex | so if you have a 5500, you can use all 64 megs of "ram" as ram, and your 32 megs of flash ram for storage. |
| 07:26.09 | Com[Plex | dig it? |
| 07:26.29 | Com[Plex | then you can put your sd card in there, formatted for ext2fs, and install all your applications to it |
| 07:27.31 | Com[Plex | and if you ghave some disaster and have to reflash your rom, you can just use "ipkg-link" to re link all of your apps that were on the sd card and instantly 'reinstall" all of em. |
| 07:27.38 | Com[Plex | sort of anyway. |
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| 07:43.27 | Com[Plex | is the 'double reboot' bug still in full effect? |
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| 09:17.23 | hrw|gone | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:35.18 | univac | hi |
| 09:35.56 | hrw|work | hi vac |
| 09:35.57 | univac | my computer running on linux and pda |
| 09:36.11 | univac | how i can "connection share" from my computer to pda per usb |
| 09:36.33 | hrw|work | google for it - there are many howtos |
| 09:36.38 | univac | i searchning this 2 days :( |
| 09:36.41 | hrw|work | ~google zaurus usbnet nat |
| 09:37.21 | univac | thanks |
| 09:38.22 | hrw|work | basically its quite easy |
| 09:40.19 | univac | i must for it iptables |
| 09:40.22 | univac | but i modporbe usbnet |
| 09:40.31 | univac | and i haven't in /dev/usb0 |
| 09:40.40 | univac | used udev |
| 09:40.44 | XorA | univac: netowrk devices arent in /dev |
| 09:40.58 | XorA | univac: ifconfig for network config |
| 09:41.12 | univac | i must have for it iptables? |
| 09:41.32 | XorA | iptables doesnt use /dev either |
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| 10:13.29 | lhames | Hi. Oz newbie question: I've just installed OZ 3.5.2 on an SL-5500 in the hopes of getting more up to date bluez support (was running sharp 3.1 rom). Problem is now when I run 'hcitool dev' it shows no devices (even for cards that worked on the old rom with bluez 2.3 on it). What am I missing? (the only relative howto I could find suggested that downgrading back to 2.3 was the way to go) |
| 10:16.59 | univac | hmm look for this |
| 10:17.01 | univac | /etc/init.d/net.usb0 start |
| 10:17.01 | univac | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:17.01 | univac | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:17.01 | univac | SIOCSIFADDR: No such device |
| 10:17.01 | univac | usb0: unknown interface: No such device |
| 10:17.04 | univac | SIOCSIFBRDADDR: No such device |
| 10:17.05 | hrw|work | lhames: have all kernel modules loaded? |
| 10:17.06 | univac | usb0: unknown interface: No such device |
| 10:17.36 | univac | i ran only ifconfig_usb0=( "192.168.0.200 broadcast 192.168.0.255 netmask 255.255.255.0" ) |
| 10:18.04 | univac | ln -sf /etc/init.d/net.eth0 /etc/init.d/net.usb0 |
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| 10:22.57 | lhames | hrw|work: lsmod shows dt11_cs, rfcomm, l2cap, bluez, sa1100_bi, net_fd, usbdcore, ipv6, ipsec, sharp_mmcsd_m |
| 10:23.20 | hrw|work | dt11_cs is a driver of your bt card? |
| 10:24.00 | lhames | hrw|work: Not sure. How would I go about finding out? |
| 10:24.26 | lhames | hrw|work: Never mind: Remove the card and the module unloads. |
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| 10:25.11 | hrw|work | ok - I'm not a right person to help with this. I have only memory cards and it seems like this will be like that for long time |
| 10:25.38 | lhames | Alright. Thanks for the help though. :) |
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| 10:27.09 | hrw|work | hi Bernardo |
| 10:27.23 | Bernardo | hi hrw|work |
| 10:28.33 | Bernardo | I'm still fighting my collie/sd problem... :( |
| 10:33.54 | XorA | Bernardo: that email really sounds like fscked sharp driver |
| 10:34.48 | XorA | Bernardo: thats the type of shit I got until I used the hacked driver on my 512M card |
| 10:37.39 | hrw|work | hmm.. univac was from Poland... |
| 10:38.54 | Bernardo | XorA: how did youn hack it? |
| 10:39.06 | univac_ | ifconfig usb0 192.168.129.200 netmask 255.255.255.255 up |
| 10:39.07 | univac_ | SIOCSIFADDR: Nie ma takiego urządzenia |
| 10:39.07 | univac_ | usb0: unknown interface: Nie ma takiego urządzenia |
| 10:39.07 | univac_ | SIOCSIFNETMASK: Nie ma takiego urządzenia |
| 10:39.10 | univac_ | why ? |
| 10:39.22 | XorA | Bernardo: I didnt, someone on zug did, its the driver used in 3.5.2, but obviously its not hacked enough :-) |
| 10:39.36 | Bernardo | yep... it seems so. |
| 10:40.26 | Bernardo | now what can I do? my financial manager (read: wife) won't approve buying a new pda soon... |
| 10:40.34 | hrw|work | univac_: on Z or on desktop? |
| 10:40.45 | univac_ | desktop |
| 10:41.00 | univac_ | i don't touch configure internet od pda |
| 10:41.06 | XorA | Bernardo: ooops, it fell in the sink |
| 10:41.10 | hrw|work | univac_: chodź na priv |
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| 10:41.25 | univac_ | hihi |
| 10:41.44 | Bernardo | XorA: won't work... she's already convinced it is broken, but no new pda |
| 10:42.37 | XorA | Bernardo: upgrade to financial controller V2.0 |
| 10:42.45 | Bernardo | Lol |
| 10:43.05 | XorA | Bernardo: smd is quite easy to do, how small? |
| 10:43.10 | Bernardo | that would only increase costs, there's no going back... :) |
| 10:43.52 | Bernardo | XorA: the problem is that I don't have a pcb (and no longer have any way to etch one), I need to solder a ribbon cable to the scm "pins" |
| 10:43.58 | hrw|work | XorA: beware additional features of new financial controller |
| 10:43.59 | Bernardo | XorA: congratulations! |
| 10:44.16 | XorA | V1.0 was incompatible with my Wallet V1.0 |
| 10:44.26 | Bernardo | that bad? |
| 10:44.41 | XorA | 90 UKP for a pint of milk |
| 10:44.56 | XorA | 1/2 a litre for europeans |
| 10:46.14 | Bernardo | now I'm lost... |
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| 10:55.31 | XorA | Bernardo: if you can pull it off sometimes you can get SMD devices to sit on top of DIL sockets, solder the SMD in place then solder the ribbon cable to the DIL socket pins, used this at my old work |
| 10:58.07 | Bernardo | this one is too wide, I think. I also need to buy a voltage regulator. I thought about taking apart the simpad dect module and reusing it, but... |
| 10:58.46 | Bernardo | I wish I could do it in a way I could also use the module with my collie, but that is just plain dreaming |
| 10:59.37 | hrw|work | I was thinking about bt-over-rs232 for collie |
| 11:08.58 | XorA | hrw|work: there is a commercial product does that for collie, so its no impossible |
| 11:10.16 | Bernardo | hrw|work: this module works over rs232, so maybe I could get it to work on the collie also. |
| 11:10.42 | hrw|work | XorA: I know - aircable it was |
| 11:12.44 | hrw|work | probably wifi card will be cheaper solution anyway |
| 11:14.59 | Bernardo | I just wish I could find a sandisk memory wifi card, now that someone found a way to use it in linux |
| 11:15.41 | hrw|work | I know that wifi part works with hostap 0.3.x - how about memory part? |
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| 11:22.18 | Bernardo | hrw|work: I saw a few posts on a mailing list a couple of months ago, that said that it was now possible to use the memory part too |
| 11:22.36 | hrw|work | great |
| 11:27.13 | Bernardo | That would solve (at least partially) my problems with the simpad, with 128Mb memory I could use it as a replacement for my collie |
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| 11:43.30 | lhames | hrw|work: Just in case you're interested. Managed to my bt card recognised by commenting out dbus_pin_helper in hcid.conf |
| 11:44.08 | hrw|work | lhames: document it and post into bugtracker |
| 11:44.24 | lhames | Sure thing. :) |
| 11:45.59 | lhames | Um. I really am a newb though, where would I go to learn to use bugtracker? |
| 11:49.28 | hrw|work | lhames: http://bugs.openembedded.org/ l/p: guest/guest |
| 11:50.03 | lhames | Cool. Thanks heaps. |
| 11:50.18 | lhames | thanks again for all the help. |
| 11:50.21 | hrw|work | on top you will have button "new ticket in" - and select "general" |
| 11:50.32 | hrw|work | then describe it as much as possible |
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| 11:51.45 | lhames | Sure. Alright. I'm off to post that then head out. Thanks again. |
| 11:51.59 | lhames | later. :) |
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| 14:04.04 | Com[Plex | is there a vpn client or the z? |
| 14:05.22 | Com[Plex | for oz I mean.. |
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| 14:09.56 | XorA | Com[Plex: is there not vpnc in the feeds? |
| 14:23.33 | Com[Plex | I hadnt checked. |
| 14:23.52 | Com[Plex | is there a nice tidy little index of whats in all the feeds that I can browse? |
| 14:25.16 | XorA | Com[Plex: not that I know |
| 14:25.23 | Com[Plex | its kinda hard to find a application thats named blah-blahpvpncc1.2.so.234566.yadda in the middle of 400 applications similarly named. heh. |
| 14:25.48 | Com[Plex | by the way, long time no see xora. |
| 14:25.53 | XorA | ipkg list | grep bla :-) |
| 14:26.02 | Com[Plex | I swear I only pick this thing up twioce a year. |
| 14:26.20 | Com[Plex | I thought ipkg list oinly displayed stuff that was installed allready. |
| 14:26.46 | Com[Plex | the "notes" section of ipkgs is rarely very informative. |
| 14:28.45 | Com[Plex | hmm. |
| 14:29.18 | Com[Plex | the package manager needs a tidier way of dealing with network hangups when wgetting updates.. |
| 14:31.42 | Com[Plex | anyone else have trouble with nic cards identifying properly in oz? half the time I put my nic card in it gets detected as "anonymous memory" |
| 14:32.34 | Com[Plex | anyone using the kompany apps with 3.5.2? |
| 14:32.53 | Com[Plex | I bought the tkc bundle a lifetime ago. wonder if they are compatable. |
| 14:33.02 | hrw|work | not compatible |
| 14:33.10 | Com[Plex | shit :( |
| 14:33.18 | Com[Plex | tkc editor was the bomb |
| 14:33.24 | hrw|work | you probable can get them working with sharp-compat-libs (called oz-compat before) |
| 14:33.26 | Com[Plex | heverything else was kinda lame. |
| 14:33.55 | Com[Plex | well, not everything... |
| 14:34.15 | Com[Plex | okay, Ill have to read more about the sharp compat libs. thanks |
| 14:35.36 | Com[Plex | lol |
| 14:35.43 | Com[Plex | wtf. my z shat itself. |
| 14:36.26 | Com[Plex | ide0 unexpected interrupt. status=0x02 over and over anfd over. |
| 14:37.29 | Com[Plex | shit. now I wish I hadnt left my zaurus at home.. |
| 14:39.28 | Com[Plex | *sigh* |
| 14:39.45 | Com[Plex | what the hell.... |
| 14:40.32 | Com[Plex | I need a robot. |
| 14:40.44 | Com[Plex | one that can go to my zaurus and reset the friggin thing every time this happens. |
| 14:40.54 | XorA | Chinese mail order brides are cheaper |
| 14:41.23 | Com[Plex | try to ell the z to reboot and it crashes. now I cvant ssh into it |
| 14:41.46 | Com[Plex | yeah, good call. |
| 14:42.55 | Com[Plex | man, this is going to ruin my day. |
| 14:43.01 | Com[Plex | I Just frioggin started work |
| 14:43.08 | Com[Plex | lol |
| 14:43.36 | Com[Plex | I was hoping to wait till at least noon before I crashed it |
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| 22:13.15 | goony | root@hate:/opt/QtPalmtop/quake/data/id1# /opt/QtPalmtop/bin/quake_script |
| 22:13.15 | goony | quake: symbol lookup error: quake: undefined symbol: _7QString.shared_null |
| 22:13.19 | goony | any idea? pls :( |
| 22:15.47 | hardwire | don't try to run quake? |
| 22:15.54 | hardwire | get a job |
| 22:16.01 | hardwire | find a woman |
| 22:16.04 | hardwire | any of the above |
| 22:16.11 | goony | ah ah |
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