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| 01:43.01 | GS | hi |
| 01:44.07 | GS | one wuestion , when i update de packagelist say error ( ipkd_ download ERROR :Command failed with return value |
| 01:44.09 | GS | ... |
| 01:44.19 | GS | how to install ipkg?? |
| 01:44.48 | GS | or wget... |
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| 01:56.33 | GS | someone can update a list of packages? |
| 01:56.44 | GS | an't |
| 01:56.56 | GS | i try it but i can't |
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| 03:20.13 | jumpkick | did it pop out while I was gone? |
| 03:20.14 | jumpkick | :) |
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| 04:12.17 | jumpkick | minimo is sweet |
| 04:13.48 | vol | im having a big problem getting my wifi card working with 3.5.3 |
| 04:14.41 | vol | 3.5.2 would recognize it right away and it would be connected to the ap within a few seconds |
| 04:15.09 | vol | were there any big changes from 3.5.2 to 3.5.3 in respect to how they treated cf cards? |
| 04:15.49 | Cwiiis | vol: Not CF cards, but a newer hostap version is used in 3.5.3 - If you could try downgrading to the one in 3.5.2, that'd be helpful |
| 04:17.47 | vol | Cwiiis: just use the old hostap modules? |
| 04:18.20 | Cwiiis | vol: hmm, that's a good point, they're kernel modules aren't they... Well, give it a go anyway, see what happens - sorry in advance if things blow up :) |
| 04:19.02 | jumpkick | mmm... gxine is also cool |
| 04:19.14 | Cwiiis | jumpkick: Damn right ;) |
| 04:19.45 | jumpkick | Cwiiis: do you know if it can play internet radio? |
| 04:19.56 | jumpkick | I played an MPEG and it was pretty sweet |
| 04:19.58 | Cwiiis | jumpkick: It should be able to, but I haven't tested it |
| 04:20.30 | Cwiiis | It should be able to play all the media it can play locally over the net and using mms streaming |
| 04:25.14 | jumpkick | hmm... maybe I need some more codecs |
| 04:25.23 | vol | im so jealous, i have this pretty gpe environment and no way to connect it to the world |
| 04:27.12 | Cwiiis | vol: Keep trying, hopefully your efforts will benefit others :) |
| 04:27.43 | vol | flashing 3.5.2 on there now to grab the modules |
| 04:28.09 | Cwiiis | Good stuff |
| 04:29.15 | Cwiiis | right, 5:30am, time for bed - g'night |
| 04:29.26 | vol | gnight |
| 04:42.44 | jumpkick | 5:30 |
| 04:42.54 | jumpkick | right sleep well |
| 04:42.56 | jumpkick | :) |
| 04:45.56 | Timelord | Erm... is it normal on openzaurus/opie on the SL-6000 to have very minor screen artifacts and annoying bugs here and there? |
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| 05:05.20 | vol | is it possible that 3.5.3 is just missing orinoco_cs.o? |
| 05:05.57 | vol | cause i just copied the module from a 3.5.2 install to my sd card, flashed 3.5.3 and loaded it and now my card works |
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| 05:35.43 | __law__ | morning |
| 05:36.04 | __law__ | i am not able do compile gpe (perl-native failed) http://pastebin.com/270685 |
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| 11:30.45 | toukitsune | hello. is there any support to run an external USB hd? |
| 11:31.01 | hrw|work | toukitsune: on what machine? |
| 11:31.12 | toukitsune | 6000 |
| 11:31.24 | hrw|work | probably yes |
| 11:31.26 | toukitsune | I know it has USB |
| 11:31.35 | hrw|work | I cannot say - no 6000 here |
| 11:33.13 | toukitsune | I been thinking of eather getting a laptop or a pda but my choice of pda is a zaurus. I had one and ran apache on it |
| 11:34.21 | toukitsune | but its been a while sense then. I am thinking zaurus must have improved the machine a bit more sense I last had one |
| 11:36.32 | toukitsune | so hrw|work what machine you have? |
| 11:36.36 | hrw|work | currently 5500 |
| 11:36.44 | hrw|work | soon will get c760 (donated) |
| 11:37.22 | toukitsune | cool |
| 11:48.09 | alrs | I've got a 5500 and I'm pretty unhappy with it. I don't like the Sharp ROM, and the Openzaurus project hasn't really managed to put out anything consistenly usable. |
| 11:49.24 | alrs | Perhaps things will change with 3.5.3 |
| 11:52.42 | hrw|work | alrs: you can help to improve |
| 11:54.44 | XorA | alrs: for not usable I have been using solidly for last year, please make some constructive comments |
| 11:55.01 | toukitsune | heh complaining about how something is not good and not doing anything about it doesn't help the problem |
| 11:57.07 | hrw|work | I could say that sharprom 2.38 suxx totally when compared to oz 3.5.x - but I dont even remember non-OZ on collie |
| 12:00.01 | toukitsune | I like the zaurus cause its range of compatible devices and the fact that its already linux compatable |
| 12:00.51 | toukitsune | unlike a laptop that maybe you can get linux to work on alot of the laptop but then you get to the cards you can use with the laptop and you have more compatability problems |
| 12:02.01 | alrs | I've never gotten my pocketop keyboard to work |
| 12:02.17 | hrw|work | alrs: under which OZ? |
| 12:02.27 | alrs | any |
| 12:02.31 | alrs | 3.5.2 most recently |
| 12:03.12 | hrw|work | alrs: send me one pocketop keyboard and in 2-3 days you will got it good supported |
| 12:03.15 | alrs | perhaps I'm spoiled by debian |
| 12:03.27 | alrs | but I ran into lots of problems with the package management |
| 12:04.02 | XorA | hrw|work: I might take you up on that :-) |
| 12:04.04 | hrw|work | alrs: zaurus users have more hardware then developers can test so noone helped in irda keybards problems |
| 12:04.20 | hrw|work | XorA: have spare pocketop? |
| 12:04.25 | alrs | I was dumb, I bought it because it said it was Zaurus-supported |
| 12:04.45 | hrw|work | alrs: you got your Z and keyboard now? |
| 12:04.46 | alrs | and OZ had the packages as well |
| 12:04.49 | XorA | hrw|work: no, but I dont understand enough IRK/Irda magic to get mine working |
| 12:05.02 | XorA | hrw|work: I need time to sit and actually look at it |
| 12:05.04 | alrs | yeah, they're here |
| 12:05.14 | hrw|work | alrs: "irk" installed? |
| 12:05.31 | XorA | hrw|work: though someone did say IRK+pockettop worked in 3.5.2 |
| 12:05.37 | alrs | checking. It's been sitting in its cradle for months |
| 12:05.59 | hrw|work | XorA: pocketop is easy - worse is with belkin or targus |
| 12:06.01 | XorA | lirc needs to be taught about 2.6 for me |
| 12:06.04 | toukitsune | OZ has support for the accessories thats listed for zaurus right? |
| 12:06.18 | hrw|work | toukitsune: mostly |
| 12:06.20 | toukitsune | perferably for the GPS and barcode scanner |
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| 12:06.55 | toukitsune | oh and wifi |
| 12:07.04 | toukitsune | o.o Foxdie!! |
| 12:07.10 | Foxdie | OMG! |
| 12:07.15 | hrw|work | wifi is good supported afaik |
| 12:07.28 | toukitsune | didn't know you came here |
| 12:07.31 | Foxdie | dude I'm one of the admins of the zaurus user group, is it so surprising I may drop in? ;) |
| 12:07.45 | toukitsune | I didn't know that |
| 12:07.52 | toukitsune | you never told me on the other server |
| 12:08.12 | hrw|work | XorA: irk needs lirc? |
| 12:08.14 | Foxdie | I am needing some helpage please |
| 12:08.15 | toukitsune | but then again I never asked |
| 12:08.18 | alrs | hrw!wrk: It looks like I've flashed it since I last played with the pocketop |
| 12:08.18 | XorA | hrw|work: yes |
| 12:08.29 | alrs | hrw|work: I'll go hunt down the package |
| 12:08.43 | hrw|work | XorA: ah.. so that can be problem - no lirc modules in 3.5.2 |
| 12:09.04 | XorA | hrw|work: I dont think it uses the modules, just headers for definitions |
| 12:09.09 | hrw|work | ah |
| 12:09.37 | XorA | IRK on 3.5.3preishXorAversion kills Opie :-( |
| 12:09.39 | hrw|work | alrs: ok - tell me when you install it |
| 12:09.52 | hrw|work | XorA: there is a fix for it |
| 12:09.55 | toukitsune | im so hyper |
| 12:10.03 | XorA | hrw|work: there is? |
| 12:10.13 | hrw|work | XorA: you lack $HOME/Settings/IRK.conf |
| 12:10.31 | Foxdie | XMMS on the OZ feed won't start because of missing libstdc6++.so.6 - so far I've tried downloading libstdc++ from killefiz and installing it and linking to the library when it's installed, xmms will start but no GUI is shown and in the console I get "/opt/QtPalmtop/lib/xmms/General/libQPEgui.so: symbol _ZNSt8ios_base4InitC1Ev, version GLIBCXX_3.4 not defined in file libstdc++.so.6 with link time reference"... Anyone got any |
| 12:10.46 | XorA | hrw|work: that old chestnut, I thought that had been fixed |
| 12:10.54 | hrw|work | Foxdie: grab it from "devel" feed |
| 12:10.59 | XorA | hrw|work: I will try IRK again this weekend if I get time |
| 12:11.09 | hrw|work | XorA: afaik it was in "upgrades" fixed |
| 12:11.12 | Foxdie | odd, it's not listed in the ipkg list after an update |
| 12:11.34 | XorA | hrw|work: it must not have made OE :-( |
| 12:11.36 | hrw|work | Foxdie: oz >3.5.1 have lots of feeds |
| 12:11.46 | Foxdie | using 3.5.2 |
| 12:12.12 | hrw|work | Foxdie: add devel feed into ipkg.conf, update and then try |
| 12:12.13 | alrs | hrw|work: in updates there is an irk for targus and an irk for belkin |
| 12:12.24 | hrw|work | Foxdie: and in future - use "search" in ZUG :) |
| 12:12.34 | hrw|work | alrs: you can install any - both has pocketop support |
| 12:12.53 | Foxdie | I tried that! |
| 12:13.02 | Foxdie | first thing I checked |
| 12:13.24 | Foxdie | I will attribute the oversight to alcohol though |
| 12:13.44 | Foxdie | never drink vodka and expect to be profficient at linux'y goodness |
| 12:13.51 | Foxdie | (unless you're russian) |
| 12:14.02 | toukitsune | hehe |
| 12:15.03 | toukitsune | Foxdie: you wouldn't happen to know with the USB if you can actualy run an external USB HD? |
| 12:15.33 | Foxdie | depends which model |
| 12:16.01 | toukitsune | 6000 |
| 12:16.34 | Foxdie | if the kernel modules are present for usb storage devices then I can't see why not |
| 12:17.21 | toukitsune | does anyone know if OZ has the kernel modules for usb storage? |
| 12:17.35 | XorA | toukitsune: not in 3.5.2 |
| 12:18.41 | toukitsune | hmmm. I wonder if the CF addapter for an external laptop HD would work in OZ |
| 12:19.48 | toukitsune | and I wonder if it would detect it as an ide device or a scsi device. I know on my old zaurus it was detected as scsi |
| 12:19.48 | Foxdie | hrw|work can I pester you some more? |
| 12:19.54 | toukitsune | why you wanna pester hrw|work when you can pester me? |
| 12:20.23 | Foxdie | have you successfully installed xmms on your opie Z? |
| 12:20.36 | hrw|work | Foxdie: sure |
| 12:20.43 | toukitsune | nope. never used OZ yet |
| 12:20.53 | Foxdie | got that lib you told me to install, now when calling xmms I get: |
| 12:20.54 | Foxdie | Processing Qtopia gui for XMMS 3.1.2 |
| 12:20.54 | Foxdie | QPE init started |
| 12:20.54 | Foxdie | Cannot find font definition file /usr/local/qt-embedded/lib/fonts/fontdir - is $QTDIR set correctly? |
| 12:20.57 | toukitsune | my other zaurus was LFS |
| 12:21.10 | hrw|work | Foxdie: dont run it from shell... |
| 12:21.28 | hrw|work | Foxdie: install "oz-service-release" (or how it is called) from upgrades feed |
| 12:21.39 | Foxdie | ok |
| 12:21.43 | Foxdie | thanks |
| 12:22.51 | hrw|work | Foxdie: did xmms run when you start it from opie? |
| 12:24.56 | alrs | hrw|work I installed irk |
| 12:25.18 | hrw|work | alrs: do you have /root/Settings/IRK.conf file? |
| 12:26.05 | alrs | I'm already suspicious because irk doesn't show up in the package manager as installed |
| 12:26.38 | alrs | hrw|work: no IRK.conf |
| 12:26.41 | hrw|work | alrs: check for /opt/QtPalmtop/plugins/inputmethods/*irk* |
| 12:26.42 | lardman|lunch | toukitsune: regarding mass storage devices - I've had one running with my Z and ratoc card |
| 12:26.51 | hrw|work | alrs: run "touch /root/Settings/IRK.conf" |
| 12:26.59 | Foxdie | yeah it loads but it does'nt appear I can open a file to play |
| 12:27.17 | alrs | hrw|work not there, either |
| 12:27.27 | alrs | but ipkg was very friendly when it said that it had installed it. |
| 12:27.50 | hrw|work | alrs: open terminal and install it using ipkg |
| 12:27.50 | toukitsune | ratoc card? |
| 12:27.55 | Foxdie | ahh it works now |
| 12:28.05 | alrs | hrw|work: I did install it with ipkg from a term |
| 12:28.14 | lardman|lunch | toukitsune: It's a cf host card for the Zs which don't have it built in |
| 12:29.01 | alrs | hrw|work: It installed all of this stuff to the cf |
| 12:29.05 | hrw|work | alrs: ok |
| 12:29.13 | hrw|work | alrs: still no /root/Settings/IRK.conf file? |
| 12:29.15 | alrs | hrw|work: no wonder I couldnt' fint it |
| 12:29.19 | hrw|work | ;) |
| 12:29.31 | hrw|work | alrs: "ipkg-link add irk" |
| 12:29.45 | alrs | hrw|work it installed to /mnt/cf/etc/IRK.conf |
| 12:30.02 | alrs | I don't really want this stuff on the cf anyway, so I'll be cleaning up my mess for a little bit |
| 12:30.04 | hrw|work | alrs: copy it to /root/Settings/ |
| 12:30.17 | hrw|work | IRK.conf I mean ofcourse |
| 12:30.54 | Foxdie | had fun the other day toukitsune |
| 12:31.26 | Foxdie | someone gave me an old CF gprs card to see if I could fix |
| 12:31.34 | Foxdie | apparently it wouldn't work |
| 12:31.42 | Foxdie | turns out there was a short inside of it |
| 12:31.50 | Foxdie | damn thing nearly fried my C860 |
| 12:32.05 | Foxdie | if I look inside the CF slot theres a black ring around some of the pins x.x |
| 12:32.11 | Foxdie | luckily it still works |
| 12:32.51 | XorA | Foxdie: I accidently put my WiFi card in washing machine, it still works :-) |
| 12:33.21 | hrw|work | I dropped memorystick memory card into wine - worked after |
| 12:33.47 | toukitsune | I have a audiovox cf gprs card |
| 12:34.10 | toukitsune | but no card for it |
| 12:34.16 | toukitsune | so no service |
| 12:34.28 | toukitsune | should get one from tmobal |
| 12:34.49 | Foxdie | most stuff does work after water damage if you leave it in a warm dry place for a day |
| 12:35.13 | Foxdie | hrw: thankyou, I am now listening to the prodigy's fat of the land album thanks to your help :) |
| 12:35.17 | hrw|work | XorA: with simlock to strange company? |
| 12:35.21 | Foxdie | XorA: so last year |
| 12:35.30 | XorA | hrw|work: get them on ebay not symlocked |
| 12:35.31 | hrw|work | Foxdie: your welcome |
| 12:35.56 | XorA | I have Vodafone and T-Mobile sims though |
| 12:35.58 | hrw|work | XorA: I will insert BT cf card and use nokia via bt to gprs |
| 12:36.28 | XorA | Foxdie: what part of vodafone? Do you use Aspects tools? |
| 12:36.38 | hrw|work | Foxdie: nice transfer |
| 12:37.00 | Foxdie | aspects tools? never heard of that |
| 12:37.06 | Foxdie | I work for 191 customer services |
| 12:37.14 | alrs | Foxdie: They just lowered the price on the n-gage here to $99 if you use prepaid. I'm trying to figure out if it is carrier-locked, as I'd like to do that sort of bluetooth thing myself. |
| 12:37.27 | XorA | Foxdie: ah, would be your handset testingguys use our stuff |
| 12:37.36 | Foxdie | 16k a year to tell people how to configure their phone for picture messaging, change SIM numbers on contract accounts and other stuff |
| 12:37.43 | hrw|work | alrs: how your progress in getting irk? |
| 12:37.54 | Foxdie | alrs: very strong chance it'll be locked |
| 12:37.58 | hrw|work | ~change 16000 gbp to pln |
| 12:38.05 | XorA | my phone has neither IR or BT :-( |
| 12:38.06 | alrs | hrw|work: I managed to get the thumbkeyboard stuck in alt-mode, so I'm rebooting |
| 12:38.15 | hrw|work | alrs: ;) |
| 12:38.32 | hrw|work | XorA: so you bought wrong phone |
| 12:38.38 | Foxdie | XorA: what company do you work for? |
| 12:39.07 | XorA | hrw|work: I didnt buy it, I got my Fiance's old phone, previous to that I had nokia 3300 crap, I dont buy phones :-) |
| 12:39.14 | XorA | Foxdie: Aspects Software |
| 12:39.21 | Foxdie | and thats why you don't have bluetooth or irda :) |
| 12:39.26 | hrw|work | XorA: ah... |
| 12:39.44 | XorA | ill get her D500 in 18 months :-) |
| 12:39.51 | Foxdie | dont bother |
| 12:40.06 | Foxdie | Samsung D500 has already been decommissioned due to bluetooth "issues" |
| 12:40.11 | Foxdie | aka it's fucking shit for bluetooth data |
| 12:40.12 | hrw|work | XorA: when I extended my contract with gsm operator I choosed nokia 6310i (2.5 year ago) |
| 12:40.23 | Foxdie | hrw|work: BEST. PHONE. EVER. |
| 12:40.25 | XorA | Foxdie: ooopsie, Ill have to tell her before she buys BT card |
| 12:40.29 | Foxdie | I miss my 6310i |
| 12:40.35 | Foxdie | shame you can't buy them on a new contract anymore :/ |
| 12:40.51 | Foxdie | XorA: D600 with fixed bluetooth will be out in a couple of months, wait for that |
| 12:40.52 | hrw|work | Foxdie: have to go to service with it - turns off too often |
| 12:41.03 | XorA | personally Id love an RTM8800 with full software for Z |
| 12:41.04 | alrs | I have a sidekick that I despise |
| 12:41.09 | Foxdie | yeah mine used to crash a lot after unlocking it |
| 12:41.10 | XorA | save me carrying a phone |
| 12:41.18 | alrs | from the same sharp factory as the zaurus |
| 12:41.26 | Foxdie | XorA: want an insider tip? |
| 12:41.32 | Foxdie | Nokia 6820. |
| 12:41.36 | XorA | Foxdie: yes please |
| 12:41.36 | toukitsune | I love my cellphone. has no games no special ring tones CDMA and it works |
| 12:41.43 | Foxdie | looks ugly but has bluetooth and a huge battery life. |
| 12:42.02 | Foxdie | plus the usual gprs, picture messaging, etc |
| 12:42.05 | toukitsune | oh and no bluetooth |
| 12:42.16 | alrs | hrw|work: there is now an IRK.conf in /root/Settings |
| 12:42.31 | Foxdie | I'm still using a samsung A800, no gprs or infrared or bluetooth or colour screen |
| 12:42.34 | hrw|work | alrs: ok - started opie? |
| 12:42.36 | alrs | and I handcopied the /opt/blah/blah/inputmethods stuff in off the cf card |
| 12:42.42 | alrs | yes |
| 12:42.57 | hrw|work | alrs: select "IRK" from inputmethods menu in taskbar |
| 12:43.01 | XorA | Foxdie: my backup is Samsung A300 that you have to wind up |
| 12:43.05 | Foxdie | very small flip phone with polyphonic ringtones and a good battery life. I just use it for calls and sms |
| 12:43.13 | Foxdie | clockwork phones |
| 12:43.22 | Foxdie | those SOOOOOO have to be invented :D |
| 12:43.40 | Foxdie | although you can get this little gizmo that you wind and it charges up a mobile |
| 12:44.35 | toukitsune | they have cellphones where you shake it and it powers it up |
| 12:44.40 | alrs | hrw|work: there's "targus", but not irk. It did manage to throw some garbage up |
| 12:44.42 | Foxdie | yeah |
| 12:44.48 | Foxdie | surprised we don't sell them actually |
| 12:44.48 | hrw|work | alrs: ok - select it |
| 12:44.50 | toukitsune | but you can only use it for emergancy services |
| 12:44.57 | alrs | hrw|work apparently the targus irk is the wrong one |
| 12:45.06 | Foxdie | good for those that masturbate a lot eh toukitsune? ;) |
| 12:45.07 | toukitsune | I had one but it broke |
| 12:45.20 | hrw|work | alrs: you have to configure it |
| 12:45.25 | toukitsune | I don't masterbate x.x |
| 12:45.29 | Foxdie | how... boring |
| 12:45.31 | toukitsune | thats gross! |
| 12:45.58 | alrs | hrw|work: what next? |
| 12:46.20 | Foxdie | I was at work shaking a can of slimfast with my right arm and this dude says "that arm gets a lot of practice then eh?" and I grinned and said "I'm left handed" and he just shut up ^_^ |
| 12:46.34 | hrw|work | alrs: you got irk bar over taskbar? it not then press "inputmethod" icon on taskbar |
| 12:46.52 | alrs | hrw|work There is no "irk" option |
| 12:46.56 | alrs | hrw|work only "targus" |
| 12:47.20 | hrw|work | alrs: ok - select it |
| 12:47.20 | alrs | well, handwriting, pickboard, multikey, and "targus" |
| 12:47.28 | hrw|work | so select "targus" |
| 12:47.28 | alrs | hrw|work: I did. |
| 12:48.06 | alrs | hrw|work and like I said, using the keyboard throws up garbage on-screen |
| 12:48.18 | hrw|work | pocketop one? |
| 12:48.21 | alrs | hrw|work: so I've made progress, but I don't think that the targus "irk" was the right one to use |
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| 12:48.34 | hrw|work | alrs: so remove it and install that other irk package |
| 12:48.34 | alrs | hrw|work: yes, the pocketop |
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| 12:50.48 | gs | hi |
| 12:51.00 | toukitsune | hi |
| 12:51.04 | gs | what module i have load for usbnet? |
| 12:51.35 | gs | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:51.35 | gs | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:51.36 | gs | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:51.36 | gs | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:51.38 | gs | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:51.43 | gs | what? |
| 12:51.50 | hrw|work | gs: usbnet one |
| 12:52.23 | gs | :? |
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| 12:52.42 | hrw|work | gs: ? ? [*] Sharp Zaurus (stock ROMs) ? ? |
| 12:53.02 | gs | mmm |
| 12:53.23 | gs | what categorie? |
| 12:53.23 | hrw|work | gs: device drivers->usb->network adapters-> |
| 12:53.43 | gs | i don't have a sharp Zaurus module... |
| 12:53.53 | gs | i have 2.6.10 |
| 12:53.57 | hrw|work | I 2.6.11 |
| 12:54.03 | gs | mmm |
| 12:54.09 | hrw|work | and had it starting from 2.6.0 |
| 12:54.50 | gs | i don't have a module ;( |
| 12:57.37 | gs | hrw|work, can u send me a config of your kernel? |
| 12:59.27 | hrw|work | gs: http://www.hrw.one.pl/tmp/config-2.6.11 |
| 12:59.35 | gs | thanz |
| 13:04.36 | hrw|work | np |
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| 13:07.54 | Cloe | hi all |
| 13:08.05 | toukitsune | hi |
| 13:08.14 | hrw|work | hi Cloe |
| 13:08.40 | Cloe | maybe some one knows this, where do i find an "official" blacklist of ip's which spam and do other malicious stuff ? some known big list/site where i can find this |
| 13:08.45 | Cloe | hi hrw :) |
| 13:08.54 | hrw|work | Cloe: http://planet.debian.org/ |
| 13:09.10 | hrw|work | Cloe: someone has ~1000 entries in blacklist |
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| 13:09.45 | Cloe | damn hehe |
| 13:09.46 | Cloe | thanks ! |
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| 13:14.35 | Cloe | isn't there already a vpn client avail for the Z ? |
| 13:14.48 | Cloe | i saw during boot alot of msg's contain ipsec/openswan i believe |
| 13:14.59 | hrw|work | openvpn is in OE |
| 13:16.01 | XorA | hrw|work: I know, just need gumption |
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| 13:56.19 | aquarius | When I run xtscal, I get the error "Can't open XFT font". I'm using Xfbdev (no GPE or Opie). |
| 13:56.27 | aquarius | What might be causing this error? |
| 14:00.39 | aquarius | moreover, "xtscal -view" throws "TS_GET_CAL: Invalid argument" |
| 14:02.03 | XorA | alrs: did you find pocketop settingS? |
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| 14:15.00 | gs | openzaurus 3.5.3? !! |
| 14:15.00 | gs | w0w |
| 14:15.19 | alakdan | gs: where? |
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| 14:15.52 | gs | http://openzaurus.org/web/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=40 |
| 14:16.05 | gs | 12 april |
| 14:16.06 | gs | ;) |
| 14:16.47 | alakdan | cooool!!!!! |
| 14:16.54 | hrw|work | announce soon |
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| 14:22.05 | HCl | yay. |
| 14:34.12 | aquarius | Has anyone had any success using pygame on the Z? I can't seem to get hte fonts to work. |
| 14:44.35 | lardman | Hello all, 3.5.3 has been released |
| 14:45.04 | Rupert-Giles | so i read sweet |
| 14:45.12 | lardman | Could people take a look at http://openembedded.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/OpenZaurusReleaseNotes and remove anything which doesn;t actually apply any more |
| 14:45.29 | lardman | once you've updated of course |
| 14:45.51 | Rupert-Giles | now all am waiting for is 3.5.4 and my C3000 |
| 14:45.54 | Rupert-Giles | dunno which will come first |
| 14:46.03 | Rupert-Giles | my guess is 3.5.4 |
| 14:46.09 | lardman | C3000 will be supported in 3.5.4 |
| 14:46.09 | gs | how to view a list of packages installed? |
| 14:46.15 | gs | i try ipkg list |
| 14:46.29 | lardman | Rupert-Giles: http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/ReleaseNotes |
| 14:46.49 | lardman | gs: and it didn;'t work? |
| 14:47.06 | lardman | gs: ipkg status is an option |
| 14:47.09 | hrw|work | gs: ipkg list_installed (if you have good ipkg) |
| 14:47.15 | Noodles | Rupert-Giles: I have basically 3.5.3 on my C3000; I need to find time to hack with the keymap stuff but that's the main issue left. |
| 14:47.16 | lardman | or ipkg-link list <mount point#> |
| 14:47.20 | hrw|work | good == new enough |
| 14:47.38 | gs | a ok ipkg status |
| 14:47.42 | Rupert-Giles | well i bought my C3000 from shirtpocket 2 months ago and am still waiting... >:| |
| 14:47.57 | Noodles | For it to arrive? |
| 14:48.01 | Rupert-Giles | yes |
| 14:48.03 | Rupert-Giles | :( |
| 14:48.04 | XorA | Rupert-Giles: that sucks, did you see tyhe ZUG thread? |
| 14:48.07 | Noodles | Wow. Glad I ended up not using them. |
| 14:48.09 | Rupert-Giles | XorA, yup |
| 14:48.29 | XorA | send Buffy in |
| 14:48.36 | Rupert-Giles | lol |
| 14:48.53 | Rupert-Giles | yeh |
| 14:48.55 | XorA | Rupert-Giles: did you use Credit Card? |
| 14:48.58 | Rupert-Giles | yeh |
| 14:49.10 | XorA | Rupert-Giles: Id cancel on them after 2 months, CC people should be helpful |
| 14:49.20 | Rupert-Giles | XorA i have contacted my CC company |
| 14:49.32 | Rupert-Giles | and the sent me this letter to fill in and send back |
| 14:49.50 | XorA | Rupert-Giles: goodo, Ill have to remeber to not use them anymore, damnation, back to ebay for me |
| 14:50.06 | Rupert-Giles | supposedly they have had a shipment in so ill hold off to the end of this week start of next week |
| 14:50.10 | gs | when i put ipkg upgrade |
| 14:50.12 | gs | Installing libgcc1 (3.4.2-r3) to root... |
| 14:50.12 | gs | ERROR: Package libgcc1 (parent libgcc1) is not available from any configured src. |
| 14:50.25 | gs | i run ipkg update... |
| 14:50.35 | Rupert-Giles | but next wednesday am gonna cancel if i havent recieved it |
| 14:50.39 | gs | how to remove it? |
| 14:50.52 | hrw|work | gs: upgrade to 3.5.3 |
| 14:51.00 | gs | hrw|work, ouch |
| 14:51.01 | gs | xD |
| 14:51.01 | Rupert-Giles | XorA there are heaps of people in the same boat as me |
| 14:51.05 | Rupert-Giles | so i dont feel as bad |
| 14:51.05 | gs | hrw|work, ok ;) |
| 14:51.06 | Rupert-Giles | heh |
| 14:51.25 | gs | hrw|work, upgrade sure? |
| 14:51.34 | XorA | Rupert-Giles: sounds like they overstretched themselves :-( |
| 14:51.37 | gs | how to upgrade to red? |
| 14:51.40 | Rupert-Giles | yeh totally |
| 14:51.44 | gs | i can? |
| 14:51.55 | gs | edit ipkg.conf |
| 14:51.58 | XorA | FFS SHARP NOTICE ZAURUS IS POPULAR IN EU |
| 14:52.12 | Foxdie | XorA: what? |
| 14:52.36 | XorA | Foxdie: just shouting at SHARP |
| 14:53.06 | Noodles | They can't hear you. |
| 14:53.19 | Noodles | No one wants to sell tiny PDAs/laptops in the EU. :( |
| 14:53.31 | jdh41 | yeh :( |
| 14:53.43 | Foxdie | sucks really |
| 14:53.57 | Noodles | We need to breed smaller Europeans. |
| 14:53.57 | jdh41 | though I did manage to get my hands on a nice 12" SHARP laptop recently in the UK |
| 14:54.07 | jdh41 | weighs less than a kg |
| 14:54.16 | Foxdie | I've had a 5500, C760 and C80 and loved every one of them more than any other pda |
| 14:54.56 | XorA | 5500 I got from Argos after trying ever "dealer" in UK, C860 I got from Taox in Tokyo |
| 14:55.05 | Noodles | I like my C3000. Though since I've started hacking on OZ on it it's been a bit less useless as it's in a state of flux. |
| 14:55.13 | Noodles | Need to get Bluetooth working on it. |
| 14:55.19 | gs | hrw|work, can send me a ipkg.conf for 3.5.3? |
| 14:55.43 | gs | i have this... |
| 14:55.50 | gs | [flood] |
| 14:55.53 | gs | src upgrades http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/upgrades/ |
| 14:55.53 | gs | src base http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/feed/base/ |
| 14:55.53 | gs | src libs http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/feed/libs/ |
| 14:55.53 | gs | src console http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/feed/console |
| 14:55.53 | gs | src opie http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/feed/opie |
| 14:55.53 | gs | dest root / |
| 14:55.55 | gs | dest cf /mnt/cf/ |
| 14:55.57 | gs | dest sd /mnt/card/ |
| 14:56.01 | gs | dest ram /mnt/ram/ |
| 14:56.08 | gs | [/flood] |
| 14:56.19 | gs | it's ok? |
| 14:56.32 | Rupert-Giles | oz on C3000 will be nice, i knew it would get released before i got my C3000 |
| 14:56.36 | Rupert-Giles | i should have put a bet on |
| 14:57.54 | hrw|work | gs: should be |
| 14:57.59 | gs | Downloading http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/upgrades//Packages |
| 14:58.00 | gs | wget: server returned error 404: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found |
| 14:58.21 | hrw|work | gs: of course I dont know does 3.5.2 can be upgraded to 3.5.3 |
| 14:58.37 | hrw|work | gs: upgrades are not yet - we just released |
| 14:58.43 | gs | no? xD |
| 14:58.45 | gs | ops |
| 14:58.45 | gs | xD |
| 14:58.59 | gs | ok i donload and flash ... |
| 14:59.12 | hrw|work | gs: and it would be better for you to reflash as some things are changed which wont be upgraded via pakcages |
| 14:59.27 | gs | ok thanz hrw|work |
| 15:01.06 | gs | i download it... |
| 15:01.15 | gs | i'm downloading.. |
| 15:02.00 | gs | hrw|work, what zImage download? |
| 15:02.15 | hrw|work | which you want |
| 15:02.31 | gs | ok |
| 15:03.49 | lardman | wow, that's a lot of sub-dirs in the feed |
| 15:09.08 | lardman | hrw|work: what about Coredump's thread - it ought to be closed, what does afk mean in his name? |
| 15:10.11 | lardman | Coredump|afk: ping |
| 15:10.15 | hrw|work | ~afk |
| 15:10.16 | ibot | afk is, like, Away From Keyboard |
| 15:10.25 | lardman | ah-ha |
| 15:11.30 | gs | reboot |
| 15:15.36 | HCl | is there any way to disable the documents tab completely? i don't see why it should still be visible if its disabled |
| 15:18.17 | lardman | HCI: I don't think so, it just appears there anyway |
| 15:19.27 | hrw|work | but opie team will get a patch from you which will do it |
| 15:20.37 | HCl | grin. |
| 15:20.41 | HCl | i might. |
| 15:20.58 | HCl | on other things, any idea why the bottom pixel row is random / white? |
| 15:21.53 | lardman | on collie? |
| 15:21.59 | HCl | yea |
| 15:21.59 | lardman | par for the course |
| 15:22.00 | HCl | sorry |
| 15:22.04 | HCl | what? |
| 15:22.08 | lardman | normal |
| 15:22.51 | lardman | I've no idea what causes it - patches are welcome as ever, but it doesn't do any harm so is low priority afaiu |
| 15:23.23 | HCl | mhm. |
| 15:27.10 | hrw|work | HCl: kernel bug |
| 15:28.12 | hrw|work | 4x6 font which is used doesnt multiply to 320 but to 318 so last two lines are not erased by framebuffer (something like that) |
| 15:28.52 | HCl | okay |
| 15:28.58 | HCl | i might look at it someday |
| 15:29.02 | HCl | but for now i'm busy with rockbox |
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| 15:45.05 | congrio | hi, i need help installing oz 3.5.3 in a 6000l |
| 15:46.41 | congrio | file names are ok? or i need to rename like in oz3.5.2? |
| 15:47.17 | hrw|work | congrio: read install guide - it does not change since 3.5.1 and wont change |
| 15:47.19 | hrw|work | rather |
| 15:48.40 | congrio | install say: |
| 15:48.41 | congrio | Download the following files: |
| 15:48.41 | congrio | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:48.41 | congrio | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:48.50 | congrio | but only updater.sh is in the web |
| 15:49.39 | congrio | the other files have diferent names and extension that version 3.5.2 |
| 15:49.45 | congrio | is the same format? |
| 15:49.58 | congrio | i have to rename opie.... to bootstrap.data? |
| 15:50.02 | congrio | o updater.data? |
| 15:52.07 | lardman | what's the url of tyhe install guide for the 6000? |
| 15:52.24 | congrio | i have this |
| 15:52.25 | congrio | http://openzaurus.org/web/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=32&Itemid=44 |
| 15:52.42 | congrio | but, this is for 3.5.2, i think. |
| 15:53.03 | lardman | it should be the same |
| 15:53.36 | lardman | which image do you want? Opie or GPE? |
| 15:54.05 | congrio | opie |
| 15:54.51 | congrio | files are .jffs2 and 3.5.2 are .data |
| 15:54.58 | congrio | are the same? |
| 15:55.00 | lardman | so you need to rename opie-image-tosa-20050409225341.rootfs.jffs2 to updater.data |
| 15:55.28 | lardman | I'm a little confused by the install doc as it makes no mention of zImage |
| 15:55.35 | lardman | Anyone out there know anything about this? |
| 15:55.42 | congrio | thx lardman |
| 15:55.52 | congrio | what happend with zImage then? |
| 15:56.06 | lardman | I don't know |
| 15:56.20 | lardman | The flashing system is yet another different one |
| 15:56.30 | lardman | different to the 5500 and C750 which I use |
| 15:56.36 | congrio | ok, thx again |
| 15:57.01 | lardman | Actually, hang on a tick |
| 15:57.15 | lardman | I wonder, as it's the updater.sh which decides on the filenames |
| 15:57.32 | lardman | if the same scheme as with the other c7x0 roms should be followed...? |
| 15:58.47 | congrio | lardman, i have tried, but alwais say me "please reset" |
| 15:58.58 | congrio | just before load updater.sh i think. |
| 15:59.45 | lardman | I'd consider renaming zimage to zimage.bin, opie-image*jffs2 to initrd.bin and stick updater.sh on the card too - that's the way it works for the 750 |
| 16:00.18 | Cwiiis | lardman: Shouldn't that be zImage rather than zimage.bin? Or does it differ with updater.sh? |
| 16:00.38 | lardman | Cwiiis: it's zimage.bin for everything except the collie |
| 16:00.48 | Cwiiis | ah :) |
| 16:00.55 | Cwiiis | I need to get myself another PDA :p |
| 16:01.08 | lardman | Cwiiis: It depends on the updater.sh as you say |
| 16:01.59 | lardman | That page on oz.org needs to be fixed (assuming my method is correct) |
| 16:02.31 | lardman | congrio: let us know if that worked |
| 16:03.44 | lardman | Cwiiis: I see someone just posted to your GPE 3.5.3pre thread |
| 16:04.07 | lardman | Cwiiis: It might still be worth closing it and starting one about 3.5.3 final |
| 16:04.35 | congrio | i am going to try, |
| 16:04.38 | congrio | one moment |
| 16:04.38 | congrio | :) |
| 16:04.45 | lardman | fingers crossed |
| 16:05.15 | Cwiiis | lardman: I've edited it now |
| 16:05.38 | Cwiiis | lardman: Pretty much all of the information there, related to wifi, etc. still applies to 3.5.3 final, I think it's worth keeping around |
| 16:06.11 | lardman | Cwiiis: ok, I wasn't sure how much had changed between then and now |
| 16:06.37 | congrio | lardman, use zImage.bin or zimage.bin? |
| 16:06.37 | Cwiiis | lardman: Nothing - in fact, my prerelease image contains some newer versions of certain apps ;) (they're in the upgrades feed however) |
| 16:06.46 | lardman | :-) |
| 16:07.00 | lardman | congrio: shouldn't matter, try zImage.bin |
| 16:07.05 | congrio | ok |
| 16:10.38 | lardman|away | congrio: post and let me know whether it worked, thanks |
| 16:10.50 | lardman|away | once you know |
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| 16:13.59 | gs | re! |
| 16:14.18 | gs | hrw|afk, how many minutes wait for flash? |
| 16:14.45 | hrw|work | gs: 18 minutes and 37 seconds - no more, no less |
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| 16:20.39 | gs | rep |
| 16:25.41 | lardman|away | congrio: It must have done something by now.... |
| 16:25.57 | lardman|away | Hopefully flashed successfully :) |
| 16:27.03 | congrio | lardman|away, i was at phone. Sorry but my english is very bad, i don't understand you last post |
| 16:27.33 | lardman|away | Basically I was hoping it had worked; has it? |
| 16:28.05 | congrio | and, ok. where, i am coping updater.data updater.sh and zImage.bin to CF |
| 16:28.13 | congrio | only need this files, ok? |
| 16:28.29 | lardman|away | updater.data is the one which was called opie*.jffs2? |
| 16:28.34 | congrio | yes |
| 16:28.41 | lardman|away | I think you should rename that one to initrd.bin |
| 16:28.49 | congrio | ops, ok |
| 16:28.54 | congrio | i am going to rename |
| 16:28.58 | lardman|away | so you then have initrd.bin, zimage.bin and updater.sh |
| 16:29.24 | lardman|away | I think that the 6000 flashing method is probably the same as for the c7x0 machines (hopefully) |
| 16:29.26 | congrio | ok, i have |
| 16:29.34 | congrio | i am going to try |
| 16:29.37 | congrio | one moment. |
| 16:30.12 | congrio | reset 6000.... |
| 16:30.17 | lardman|away | I've got to go, back in 1.5hours, leave a post though |
| 16:30.26 | congrio | update... |
| 16:30.28 | congrio | cf... |
| 16:30.29 | congrio | ok... |
| 16:30.31 | congrio | reboting... |
| 16:30.43 | congrio | some nice kernel messages.... |
| 16:31.14 | congrio | flashing!!! |
| 16:31.15 | congrio | :) |
| 16:31.36 | congrio | i think all is ok... it is flashing now |
| 16:31.40 | congrio | thx lardman|away |
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| 16:35.33 | gs | hrw|gone, my zaurus sl5500 its imposible c+d + reset ;) |
| 16:35.38 | gs | 1h try it |
| 16:35.39 | gs | ... |
| 16:36.00 | gs | 1/1000000 work |
| 16:36.04 | gs | ;) |
| 16:46.15 | gs | i can't install some packages ;_( |
| 16:47.01 | gs | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:47.01 | gs | Installing apt (0.6.25-r1) to root... |
| 16:47.01 | gs | Downloading http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.2/feed/base//apt_0.6.25-r1_arm.ipk |
| 16:47.01 | gs | ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for apt: |
| 16:47.01 | gs | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:47.02 | gs | An error ocurred, return value: 1. |
| 16:47.45 | gs | ipkg search libstd* |
| 16:47.47 | gs | no results |
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| 17:08.29 | Ikkakujyu | Okok... anyone know how to send a ctrl+c in GPE's terminal? |
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| 17:12.54 | gs | i run on 3.5.2 |
| 17:12.56 | gs | i run on 3.5.3 |
| 17:12.59 | gs | sorry |
| 17:13.09 | gs | what pass of root? |
| 17:13.18 | Ikkakujyu | Should be blank. |
| 17:13.35 | Ikkakujyu | Unless you set it with passwd. |
| 17:15.08 | gs | i can't acces via ssh |
| 17:15.15 | gs | ok now |
| 17:15.15 | gs | xD |
| 17:15.30 | gs | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:15.30 | gs | Linux collie 2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix #1 Thu, 07 Apr 2005 13:51:45 +0200 armv4l unknown |
| 17:15.31 | gs | ;) |
| 17:17.24 | gs | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:17.25 | gs | Downloading http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/upgrades//Packages.gz |
| 17:17.25 | gs | wget: server returned error 404: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found |
| 17:17.43 | Ikkakujyu | Erg. |
| 17:17.53 | Ikkakujyu | Looks like a problem in ipkg.conf. |
| 17:18.04 | gs | ok thanz |
| 17:18.06 | gs | see u |
| 17:18.08 | Ikkakujyu | There shouldn't be a slash at the end of the src line. |
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| 18:12.06 | lardman|away | gs: It may be that there's no compressed Packages file in the feed dir (you might need to alter the setting for that feed in ipkg.conf) |
| 18:12.25 | lardman|away | ikkakujyu: the extra trailing slash doesn't matter |
| 18:12.52 | Ikkakujyu | Yes, but the line he posted has an extra slash in it. |
| 18:13.09 | Ikkakujyu | .../3.5.3/upgrades//Packages.gz |
| 18:13.15 | Ikkakujyu | Usually won't work. |
| 18:13.45 | lardman | I don;t think there are any issues using two slashes |
| 18:14.03 | lardman | It should work as long as there's nothing between them |
| 18:14.21 | Ikkakujyu | Hrm. There's no Packages.gz there anyway. |
| 18:16.34 | lardman | Yep, an oversite, it needs to be changed |
| 18:16.47 | lardman | s/oversite/oversight |
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| 18:26.21 | lardman | congrio: ping |
| 18:26.35 | lardman | congrio: can you confirm that my method worked ok? |
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| 18:29.49 | congrio | lardman, yes, work perfectly |
| 18:30.01 | congrio | thx, lardman |
| 18:30.32 | congrio | now, i am going to move system to my 1gb sd |
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| 18:31.11 | lardman | Cool, glad it worked |
| 18:39.19 | lardman | Night all, enjoy the flashing ;) |
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| 18:50.02 | wpiku | alright.. I got an SL-C3K and want to help... let me know... |
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| 18:53.01 | gs | h |
| 18:53.03 | gs | hi |
| 18:53.20 | gs | on openz 3.5.3 i can't modify ipkg.conf... |
| 18:53.49 | gs | with vi i can't write on files and save.... |
| 18:54.36 | gs | and when i install package... for example joe tellme that no space on device.... |
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| 19:22.31 | luke-jr_ | o.o |
| 19:55.55 | prh | just flashed the 353 opie image onto a c750. how do I start opie? |
| 20:07.19 | prh | (I had pdaxrom on there before... is that breaking things, I seem to have old stuff in my /home) |
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| 20:08.01 | prh | when i run qpe I get "D'ok QPE Sever process got SIGNALL 11. gtring to exit gracefully..." |
| 20:11.25 | luke-jr_ | Unofficial mirror at http://utopios.org/~luke-jr/mirror/openzaurus/3.5.3/ |
| 20:11.32 | luke-jr_ | everything but feeds completed, I think |
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| 20:20.14 | mimecar | hi |
| 20:20.36 | mimecar | Openzaurus 3.5.3 is realeased |
| 20:20.47 | mimecar | :) |
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| 20:21.23 | Jason-Bourne | you think? |
| 20:21.42 | mimecar | yes |
| 20:21.49 | mimecar | I have installed |
| 20:21.58 | Jason-Bourne | yeh i was being sarcastic |
| 20:22.08 | Jason-Bourne | :D |
| 20:22.13 | Jason-Bourne | nanananan LARDMAN! |
| 20:22.22 | lardman | Evening all |
| 20:22.27 | Jason-Bourne | damn i miss those old skool batmans |
| 20:22.28 | mimecar | hi lardman |
| 20:22.56 | lardman | hi mimecar & Jason-Bourne |
| 20:23.02 | lardman | how's the new ROM? |
| 20:23.10 | Jason-Bourne | i'll tell you maybe next week |
| 20:23.12 | Jason-Bourne | :P |
| 20:23.21 | mimecar | I like the new version |
| 20:23.33 | lardman | Jason-Bourne: very slow connection ;) |
| 20:23.42 | Jason-Bourne | no very slow supplier |
| 20:23.45 | mimecar | but I have find a bug with spanish translation |
| 20:24.09 | Jason-Bourne | lardman i'm Rupert-Giles from before |
| 20:24.26 | Jason-Bourne | the guy who was bitching about not getting Zaurus for 2 months |
| 20:24.27 | lardman | Jason-Bourne: My apologies, I forgot you're expecting a C3000 |
| 20:24.42 | Jason-Bourne | heh |
| 20:25.10 | Jason-Bourne | i wanna test and hack but can't :( |
| 20:25.32 | prh | I can't get the new version to work for me. with OZ - how do I repartition? or format /home? |
| 20:26.04 | lardman | mimecar: have you reported it? (I don't know who maintains the Spanish translation actually) |
| 20:26.41 | mimecar | not |
| 20:26.56 | lardman | prh: what's the trouble? |
| 20:26.57 | mimecar | where can I report it ? |
| 20:27.22 | lardman | mimecar: on the bug-tracker - should be in the topic line of this channel |
| 20:27.33 | mimecar | ok, thanks lardman |
| 20:27.58 | Jason-Bourne | hey cool lardman you're from uk :D |
| 20:28.23 | prh | lardman: opie image doesn't give me opie... it boots up to a prompt but I get: |
| 20:28.26 | prh | when i run qpe I get "D'ok QPE Sever process got SIGNALL 11. gtring to exit gracefully..." |
| 20:28.44 | lardman | Jason-Bourne: Indeed, and what am I doing online at this time of the evening when I should be in the pub!? |
| 20:28.47 | prh | there is weird stuff in my /home - i think it must be from pdaxrom |
| 20:28.47 | mimecar | prh: what model do you have ? |
| 20:28.55 | prh | 750/shep |
| 20:29.00 | Jason-Bourne | lardman, it's only wednesday |
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| 20:29.00 | Jason-Bourne | :P |
| 20:29.26 | lardman | Jason-Bourne: starting late this week then ;) |
| 20:29.30 | Jason-Bourne | hah |
| 20:29.31 | mimecar | I can't help you. I only have a 5500 :( |
| 20:29.43 | lardman | prh: I have a shep, hang on a tick |
| 20:30.03 | lardman | prh: which ROM did you flash? Opie or GPE? |
| 20:30.27 | lardman | Opie, ignore me |
| 20:30.38 | lardman | I need to type faster & read faster |
| 20:30.52 | prh | lardman: with gpe image I get the screen calibration and then nothing else... |
| 20:31.15 | lardman | prh: It takes a while to finish |
| 20:31.31 | lardman | prh: have you checked the md5sums? |
| 20:31.33 | prh | tried both :O0 |
| 20:31.53 | prh | llardman: yes |
| 20:32.16 | prh | oops |
| 20:32.27 | lardman | prh:? |
| 20:33.08 | prh | yea I checked the md5s |
| 20:33.17 | lardman | I've flashed GPE and it works fine |
| 20:33.29 | lardman | What did you name the files... |
| 20:33.30 | lardman | ? |
| 20:33.40 | prh | zImage.bin and initrd.gz |
| 20:33.53 | lardman | initrd.gz should be called initrd.bin |
| 20:34.04 | lardman | or was that a typo? |
| 20:34.09 | lardman | on your part? |
| 20:34.31 | prh | starting..S35... |
| 20:34.46 | HCl | and zImage.bin should be called zImage |
| 20:34.50 | prh | S98.. |
| 20:35.03 | lardman | HCL: no,. no, no! |
| 20:35.08 | HCl | no? O.o. |
| 20:35.17 | HCl | mine was o.o; |
| 20:35.22 | HCl | sorry :X |
| 20:35.33 | lardman | For the C750 (c7/8*0) it should be called zimage.bin |
| 20:35.53 | lardman | no worries - gets confusing ;) |
| 20:36.03 | HCl | ah :X |
| 20:36.32 | prh | ahh third try on opie and it's better |
| 20:36.32 | lardman | more confusingly, the 5600 was a half way house - zimage and initrd.bin & updater.sh (though this may have changed now) |
| 20:36.47 | lardman | as the updater.sh decides what each file has to be called |
| 20:37.18 | lardman | collie (5500/5000D) is the only one with truly fixed names: zimage & initrd.bin |
| 20:37.35 | lardman | prh: glad to hear it |
| 20:38.22 | lardman | In any case the instructions on OZ.org are correct (except for the 6000 which should follow the c7x0 instructions) |
| 20:38.32 | prh | cool it's actually fully running |
| 20:38.51 | Jason-Bourne | sweet |
| 20:39.14 | lardman | good good |
| 20:40.04 | Jason-Bourne | need my c3000 grrr |
| 20:40.17 | lardman | :) |
| 20:41.08 | Jason-Bourne | some guy said eariler that 3.5.3 is almost fully working on C3000 |
| 20:41.56 | Jason-Bourne | which is nicer OPIE or GPE |
| 20:42.22 | HCl | c3000's are nice, but way too expensive :/ |
| 20:43.02 | lardman | I've just posted the alterations to the tosa instructions on ZUG in the OZ 3.5.3 thread |
| 20:43.09 | Jason-Bourne | tosa? |
| 20:43.16 | lardman | hopefully that will prevent people from getting it too wrong |
| 20:43.17 | luke-jr_ | Jason-Bourne: GPE is nice :) |
| 20:43.19 | lardman | ~tosa |
| 20:43.20 | ibot | i guess tosa is the Sharp SL-6000 PDA, or a dog (see http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/tosa.htm) |
| 20:43.40 | luke-jr_ | Jason-Bourne: but why would you use OZ on a c3000? =p |
| 20:43.42 | Jason-Bourne | yeh what's up with all the models given dog names |
| 20:43.50 | lardman | I'm running GPE atm - I agree, very nice |
| 20:44.04 | Jason-Bourne | i heard that full distros are kinda sluggish |
| 20:44.10 | luke-jr_ | I hope the problems w/ 3.5.3-pre GPE are solved |
| 20:44.22 | luke-jr_ | Jason-Bourne: ? |
| 20:44.32 | lardman | GPE seems snappy now, none of the previous issues afaict |
| 20:44.44 | Jason-Bourne | luke-jr_ you said gentoo on c3000 or was that sarcasm |
| 20:44.44 | Jason-Bourne | heh |
| 20:44.46 | luke-jr_ | Jason-Bourne: Only cuz KDE etc are more demanding maybe? |
| 20:45.00 | lardman | luke-jr: what exactly are you refering to wrt GPE? |
| 20:45.00 | luke-jr_ | lardman: I mean desktop crashing |
| 20:45.05 | luke-jr_ | lardman: and various non-working things |
| 20:45.22 | luke-jr_ | My Sylpheed broke also |
| 20:45.39 | lardman | I've not tried everything, but it seems to work fine |
| 20:45.47 | lardman | sylpeed just started up ok too! |
| 20:45.58 | luke-jr_ | It worked fine for me for a bit |
| 20:46.01 | lardman | s/sylpeed/sylpheed |
| 20:46.11 | luke-jr_ | but after a while it had issues |
| 20:46.20 | luke-jr_ | I just did the -pre install & test yesterday |
| 20:46.38 | lardman | I see; I don;t think there's much difference |
| 20:46.50 | lardman | You should report your issues |
| 20:47.10 | lardman | I'm impressed with matchbox - I prefer the way it looks now |
| 20:48.34 | luke-jr_ | I wish I could resize windows |
| 20:48.55 | Jason-Bourne | luke-jr_ were you serious about gentoo on C3000 |
| 20:49.15 | luke-jr_ | Jason-Bourne: yes |
| 20:49.19 | Jason-Bourne | cool |
| 20:49.28 | luke-jr_ | omg... 3.5.3-pre == 3.5.3 regarding c7x0 images... |
| 20:49.29 | prh | bah "Package Manager was terminated due to signal code SIGSEGV" |
| 20:49.46 | luke-jr_ | Jason-Bourne: I don't have a c3000 tho |
| 20:49.47 | Jason-Bourne | wonder if it works well |
| 20:49.51 | prh | lardman: any idea why the gpe image still uses 2.4.18? |
| 20:49.57 | luke-jr_ | prh: Pkg Mgr didn't work at all, BTW =p |
| 20:50.02 | lardman | luke-jr: ish, I'm not sure how much has been changed |
| 20:50.03 | luke-jr_ | prh: 2.6 doesn't work w/ it yet |
| 20:50.13 | lardman | prh: no, I'm not sure |
| 20:51.14 | lardman | I'd like to know though, but at least this way I don't have to think about trying to sort the ratoc cf card ;)driver |
| 20:51.26 | prh | with the opie images - is there any way to repartition? (ie on a 750 initially I got a 32MB home... which i wont use (I'll use SD) and just 5MB free on /) or can i easily put / on sd? |
| 20:51.30 | lardman | typo - rubbish IRC client |
| 20:51.37 | luke-jr_ | I tried using 2.6 w/ it (Opie's zImage) and it didn't even start |
| 20:51.49 | lardman | prh: you can install to /home |
| 20:52.07 | lardman | prh: create an entry in /etc/ipkg.conf then use it |
| 20:52.14 | lardman | prh: a src entry |
| 20:52.18 | prh | done that for sd |
| 20:52.46 | lardman | luke-jr: what do you mean? The zimage is the kernel |
| 20:52.56 | luke-jr_ | lardman: exactly |
| 20:53.03 | luke-jr_ | I used Opie's zImage w/ GPE's initrd |
| 20:53.09 | prh | hmm my ratoc usb card appears to have locked up opie |
| 20:53.21 | lardman | sorry, I should move keyboard, difficult to read new posts from where I'm typing |
| 20:53.29 | prh | luke-jr_: did it not just tell you to reflash you stupid person what were you thinking? |
| 20:53.48 | luke-jr_ | prh: ... |
| 20:53.57 | lardman | prh: I don;t think the ratoc is supported with 2.6 yet |
| 20:53.59 | luke-jr_ | prh: It told me, and continue to attempt booting |
| 20:54.15 | prh | lardman: weird - there is support for it in mainline |
| 20:54.28 | luke-jr_ | prh: Opie's zImage is 2.6, hence why I tried |
| 20:54.31 | lardman | luke-jr: In any case using a random(ish) zimage won;t work, as the kernel modules are in the initrd |
| 20:54.48 | luke-jr_ | BTW, GPE on c7/8x0 doesn't include wifi modules |
| 20:54.59 | luke-jr_ | lardman: I fixed that issue, too |
| 20:55.06 | lardman | prh: a lack of pcmcia glue so I'm told |
| 20:55.12 | prh | ahh |
| 20:55.27 | lardman | luke-jr: that said, most of the 2.6 kernel is compiled in I think atm |
| 20:55.46 | prh | so... opie or gpe? :O) |
| 20:55.48 | luke-jr_ | so anyway, if you need wifi on your Z, don't flash GPE until you backup your modules ;) |
| 20:55.52 | lardman | prh: the driver is in the handhelds.org 2.6 kernel |
| 20:55.58 | lardman | prh: but lacking glue |
| 20:56.01 | prh | ok |
| 20:56.27 | prh | opie looks pretty but I it annoys me. X is cosy |
| 20:57.15 | luke-jr_ | prh: Just be sure you backup modules before flashing if you want WiFi =p |
| 20:57.28 | lardman | luke-jr: oh |
| 20:58.54 | lardman | My wifi card seems to be alive |
| 20:59.31 | luke-jr_ | w/ GPE image? |
| 20:59.47 | lardman | yes; the lights are flashing |
| 20:59.57 | luke-jr_ | oh... that doesn't mean much |
| 21:00.01 | luke-jr_ | try actually using it or lsmod |
| 21:00.19 | lardman | lsmod doesn't work because the APTH var isn't right for root |
| 21:00.26 | lardman | s/APTH/PATH |
| 21:00.35 | lardman | which I was just about to mention |
| 21:00.39 | luke-jr_ | You need to use 'su -' |
| 21:00.45 | luke-jr_ | as with any desktop OS |
| 21:00.57 | lardman | ah |
| 21:01.34 | lardman | Well I have hostap modules loaded |
| 21:02.05 | lardman | not sure what it means, wifi isn't my field of expertise (if I even have one ;) ) |
| 21:02.20 | luke-jr_ | hostap I think turns your Z into a wifi AP usually |
| 21:03.02 | prh | not usually - only if you set it to master mode |
| 21:03.12 | prh | but that is one very handy functionality |
| 21:03.25 | luke-jr_ | Well, it lacked modules for orinoco at least |
| 21:03.52 | prh | did it have modules for great uncle bulgaria? |
| 21:03.56 | lardman | if I vanish, it's because Windows didn't like my USB WiFi dongle and BSD'd |
| 21:04.34 | luke-jr_ | ...O.o |
| 21:04.41 | luke-jr_ | Windoze sux |
| 21:05.15 | lardman | I survived! time to test wifi |
| 21:05.55 | luke-jr_ | lol |
| 21:07.47 | lardman | aaargghhh, WinXP wizards |
| 21:07.57 | prh | cool. well the default opie console font gives me loads of terminal space... |
| 21:09.48 | lardman | you can change it to make it larger, don;t worry |
| 21:10.03 | prh | no I like real-estate :O) |
| 21:10.19 | prh | thats one big drawback to ssh on a phone (like the p910 etc) |
| 21:10.41 | lardman | Yay! wifi works fine |
| 21:10.52 | lardman | and WinXP sp2 is far nicer to use than plain WinXP |
| 21:11.29 | lardman | prh: I find the letters too damn small! |
| 21:11.41 | luke-jr_ | lardman: Windoze sucks regardless of version/sp |
| 21:12.02 | lardman | In some ways. It is easy to use though. |
| 21:12.22 | lardman | I am also a Linux convert, so no need to start a flame war ;) |
| 21:12.22 | luke-jr_ | How do you uninstall a package? 'ipkg remove x' doesn't work |
| 21:12.33 | luke-jr_ | lardman: um... no. Windoze is the hardest OS to use |
| 21:12.47 | luke-jr_ | OS X has easy win on ease of use |
| 21:12.51 | luke-jr_ | KDE next |
| 21:12.51 | lardman | luke-jr: check that the package name is correct |
| 21:12.56 | luke-jr_ | GNOME and Windoze somewhat tied |
| 21:12.58 | luke-jr_ | lardman: they are |
| 21:13.03 | prh | windows is great until you want to fix it - or do something a bit unusual. then you are stuffed |
| 21:13.08 | lardman | WinXP is easy to set upo - it does most of it for you |
| 21:13.17 | lardman | prh: yep |
| 21:13.18 | luke-jr_ | lardman: compare to Lycoris |
| 21:13.23 | luke-jr_ | or Knoppix :) |
| 21:13.34 | lardman | luke-jr: try ipkg-linnk list <mount point> to get the exact name# |
| 21:14.07 | prh | trying to debug windows problems is like driving with a blindfold. there are no decent logs, error streams, "an error occurred" is a type message. grrr |
| 21:14.11 | lardman | I can't type: s/ipkg-linnk/ipkg-link & s/name#/name |
| 21:14.47 | luke-jr_ | root@kazumichan:/var# ipkg remove sylpheed |
| 21:14.47 | luke-jr_ | Nothing to be done |
| 21:14.53 | lardman | prh: Agreed, but some things are just painful - if Linux adopted some of the 'wizard' mentality of Windows it would be nice |
| 21:15.07 | luke-jr_ | lardman: Linux doesn't have a UI |
| 21:15.25 | prh | lardman: that would be odd - linux is just a kernel :O) |
| 21:15.55 | lardman | ok, so talking about a cohesive whole here - what an end user will end up with |
| 21:16.20 | luke-jr_ | KDE? |
| 21:16.23 | prh | well go with a locked down kde only distribution then |
| 21:16.25 | luke-jr_ | at least the GNU system |
| 21:16.36 | lardman | luke-jr: No clue about your sylpheed problem though, I've just looked and that should work... |
| 21:16.40 | prh | so something like ubuntu or xandross |
| 21:16.48 | luke-jr_ | lardman: same problem removing anything else... dropbear etc |
| 21:16.54 | luke-jr_ | ubuntu == gnome == eww |
| 21:16.54 | lardman | I quite like gnome |
| 21:17.02 | luke-jr_ | GNOME is unusable.. |
| 21:17.12 | prh | :O) |
| 21:17.13 | lardman | luke-jr try using --force-remove |
| 21:17.17 | lardman | actually... |
| 21:17.17 | prh | ok kubuntu |
| 21:17.31 | lardman | be careful, make sure that won't do all of the dependencies too |
| 21:17.36 | luke-jr_ | nah... help me get Utopios released ;) |
| 21:17.43 | luke-jr_ | lardman: it will, I hope |
| 21:17.53 | luke-jr_ | "Nothing to be done" |
| 21:17.58 | lardman | hmm, libc is a dependency remember ;) |
| 21:18.09 | luke-jr_ | libc depends on sylpheed? |
| 21:18.26 | lardman | other way around |
| 21:18.55 | lardman | I mis-spoke, not sure what to call what I meant |
| 21:19.57 | lardman | It's been fixed in .148? |
| 21:20.30 | luke-jr_ | apparently |
| 21:20.34 | luke-jr_ | dunno where to get .148 tho |
| 21:20.39 | luke-jr_ | OZ lacks it, it seems |
| 21:21.13 | lardman | upgrades feed? |
| 21:21.18 | luke-jr_ | no ipkg there |
| 21:21.33 | luke-jr_ | ipkg update might help XD |
| 21:25.33 | lardman | I'll talk to hrw tomorrow and ask him to put the updated veraion of ipkg in the upgrades feed |
| 21:34.56 | GeeSeCillo | re |
| 21:35.55 | lardman | Hi GeeSeCillo |
| 21:36.20 | GeeSeCillo | hi lardman ;) |
| 21:37.35 | lardman | how goes it? |
| 21:38.16 | GeeSeCillo | good |
| 21:38.29 | GeeSeCillo | flash with 3.5.3 my Z |
| 21:39.08 | lardman | cool, which version? |
| 21:39.24 | lardman | Opie or GPE (or barebones)? |
| 21:39.26 | GeeSeCillo | sl5500 |
| 21:39.35 | GeeSeCillo | opie |
| 21:39.57 | luke-jr_ | lardman: BTW, you're involved w/ releng OZ? |
| 21:40.23 | lardman | luke-jr: the release you mean? |
| 21:40.28 | luke-jr_ | yea |
| 21:40.34 | lardman | sort of |
| 21:40.48 | GeeSeCillo | but i have a problema with vi |
| 21:40.56 | luke-jr_ | mind poking whoever decided to release GPE/c7x0 w/o Wifi modules? =p |
| 21:40.59 | GeeSeCillo | i go into ssh |
| 21:41.04 | luke-jr_ | I reported it yesterday, at least |
| 21:41.09 | GeeSeCillo | and i can edit a file |
| 21:41.16 | lardman | luke-jr: what can I say, it works for me ;) |
| 21:41.17 | GeeSeCillo | but i can't |
| 21:41.22 | luke-jr_ | lardman: does it? |
| 21:41.28 | lardman | GeeSeCillo: you need a password set |
| 21:41.42 | luke-jr_ | find /lib/modules/ | grep orinoco <-- nothing |
| 21:41.55 | GeeSeCillo | i set... |
| 21:41.58 | lardman | hmm# |
| 21:42.38 | lardman | GeeSeCillo: I've not tested ssh yet, but there were issues with some clients last time I tried (3.5.2) |
| 21:42.41 | lardman | What are you using? |
| 21:42.55 | lardman | luke-jr: hang on a tick, let me take a look |
| 21:42.58 | GeeSeCillo | 3.5.3? |
| 21:43.50 | lardman | I meant which ssh client? |
| 21:44.53 | GeeSeCillo | 1:3.8.1p1-8.sarge.4 |
| 21:45.20 | lardman | GeeSeCillo: I've only reallly tried Windows clients |
| 21:45.38 | lardman | luke-jr: it appears to be connected, but i can't ping |
| 21:46.07 | GeeSeCillo | mmm |
| 21:47.13 | GeeSeCillo | ;-/ |
| 21:47.17 | lardman | Damn, not recognised as a usb device with WinXP... again |
| 21:47.18 | GeeSeCillo | in local i cant it |
| 21:47.38 | GeeSeCillo | i can't delete in vi ;( |
| 21:48.14 | lardman | GeeSeCillo: that's an issue with ipkg |
| 21:48.24 | lardman | I'll sort an upgrade in the feed tomorrow |
| 21:48.43 | GeeSeCillo | ok |
| 21:49.54 | lardman | Well, with the 2.4.18 kernels the usb problems still exist (with Windows at least) |
| 21:49.59 | GeeSeCillo | root@collie:~# rm /etc/ipkg.conf |
| 21:50.00 | GeeSeCillo | root@collie:~# cd /etc/ |
| 21:50.00 | GeeSeCillo | root@collie:/etc# wget http://192.168.129.1/ipkg.conf |
| 21:50.00 | GeeSeCillo | wget: ipkg.conf: No space left on device |
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| 21:50.05 | GeeSeCillo | W0w |
| 21:51.02 | GeeSeCillo | how generate a ipkg.conf? |
| 21:51.22 | lardman | hmm |
| 21:51.26 | lardman | what does df show? |
| 21:51.53 | GeeSeCillo | df -h |
| 21:51.53 | GeeSeCillo | Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on |
| 21:51.53 | GeeSeCillo | /dev/mtdblock4 14.1M 14.1M 60.0k 100% / |
| 21:51.54 | GeeSeCillo | /dev/mtdblock6 5.8M 18.0k 5.5M 0% /media/ram |
| 21:51.56 | GeeSeCillo | tmpfs 27.5M 68.0k 27.5M 0% /var |
| 21:51.58 | GeeSeCillo | /dev/hda1 23.4M 14.9M 8.6M 63% /media/cf |
| 21:53.08 | lardman | really out of space then! |
| 21:53.33 | lardman | I'd try removing something first.... |
| 21:53.41 | lardman | except that it's not possible |
| 21:54.34 | lardman | um... |
| 21:54.49 | GeeSeCillo | ok i see |
| 21:55.02 | lardman | You'll have to remove something by hand I think - you won't be able to update ipkg anyway unless you do |
| 21:55.26 | GeeSeCillo | and what remove? |
| 21:55.36 | GeeSeCillo | a flash it and i don't install nothing... |
| 21:55.51 | lardman | good question, what about one of the PIM apps from /opt/QtPalmtop/bin? |
| 21:57.16 | GeeSeCillo | the developer whould be left more space on this partition |
| 21:57.34 | lardman | once you've got some space, try installing ipkg*148 from here: http://handhelds.org/download/familiar/releases/v0.8.2/feed/updates/ |
| 21:57.51 | lardman | Then you should be able to remove things normally |
| 21:58.08 | GeeSeCillo | ops |
| 21:58.54 | lardman | actually just install ipkg-collateral_1.0-r2_arm.ipk & ipkg_0.99.148-r0_arm.ipk |
| 21:59.15 | GeeSeCillo | ln: /etc/ipkg.conf: No space left on device |
| 21:59.33 | GeeSeCillo | ln: /etc/ipkg.conf: No space left on device |
| 21:59.41 | GeeSeCillo | :/media/cf# ln -s ipkg.conf /etc/ipkg.conf |
| 22:00.29 | lardman | when I said remove, I mean use rm |
| 22:00.55 | GeeSeCillo | yes buy i rm ipkg.conf why don't create it? |
| 22:00.57 | GeeSeCillo | ;-/ |
| 22:01.05 | GeeSeCillo | buy= but |
| 22:01.17 | lardman | Is the one you tried to copy across bigger? |
| 22:01.24 | GeeSeCillo | no |
| 22:01.29 | GeeSeCillo | smaller |
| 22:01.37 | lardman | No idea then, unless it has decided to reserve some space |
| 22:01.46 | lardman | for some reason |
| 22:02.08 | lardman | aarrgghh, I can't get usb to work with GPE (750) |
| 22:02.14 | lardman | it won't ping |
| 22:02.21 | lardman | Is there some secret... |
| 22:02.22 | lardman | ? |
| 22:03.14 | GeeSeCillo | lardman, on linux? |
| 22:03.22 | GeeSeCillo | it's very simple |
| 22:03.41 | GeeSeCillo | load usenet module |
| 22:03.45 | GeeSeCillo | and fun |
| 22:03.46 | GeeSeCillo | ;) |
| 22:04.04 | lardman | GeeSeCillo: no, on WinXP - the usb stuff works, but I can't ping |
| 22:04.16 | lardman | not quite sure what's stoppping me |
| 22:04.57 | GeeSeCillo | lardman, what ip for zaurus? |
| 22:05.10 | GeeSeCillo | and what ip for pc... |
| 22:05.13 | lardman | 192.168.129.201 static |
| 22:05.23 | lardman | and 192.168.129.200 static on XP side |
| 22:05.36 | GeeSeCillo | and what ip ethernet on pc? |
| 22:05.45 | lardman | I wonder whether it's this Network Shield app which is causing the problems... |
| 22:05.57 | lardman | 192.168.129.200 |
| 22:06.03 | GeeSeCillo | lardman, no no |
| 22:06.15 | GeeSeCillo | ip of usb on pc 192.168.129.200 |
| 22:06.25 | GeeSeCillo | and ip on pc for ethernet pci ... |
| 22:06.27 | GeeSeCillo | what ip? |
| 22:06.45 | lardman | no ethernet IP |
| 22:06.50 | GeeSeCillo | w0w |
| 22:06.50 | lardman | I've got a modem |
| 22:06.51 | GeeSeCillo | ok |
| 22:07.01 | GeeSeCillo | firewall on? |
| 22:07.11 | lardman | yes |
| 22:07.17 | GeeSeCillo | put firewall of |
| 22:07.41 | lardman | still not happening |
| 22:08.55 | lardman | annoying as it always works straight away with opie |
| 22:09.08 | lardman | bar usb problems which are easy enough to spot |
| 22:10.09 | GeeSeCillo | windows xp suck |
| 22:10.10 | GeeSeCillo | xD |
| 22:10.29 | lardman | I'm beginning to agree ... ;) |
| 22:11.36 | lardman | Anyone have any experience with Network Shield/GPE Shield? |
| 22:12.01 | lardman | Everytime I try to turn off the rule which says it rejects all incoming, it turns back on |
| 22:12.24 | GeeSeCillo | i no ;( |
| 22:13.42 | GeeSeCillo | hrw|gone, are u stay? |
| 22:13.43 | GeeSeCillo | xD |
| 22:14.05 | lardman | I think he's gone 'till tomorrow |
| 22:14.36 | lardman | Any GPE users out there? I need help getting a connection... |
| 22:15.26 | GeeSeCillo | lardman, one question you have a knoppix? |
| 22:15.27 | GeeSeCillo | xD |
| 22:15.38 | GeeSeCillo | boot knoppix and try it with linux |
| 22:15.39 | lardman | GeeSeCillo: No, Mandrake 10 |
| 22:15.46 | GeeSeCillo | w0w mandrake |
| 22:16.09 | GeeSeCillo | boot with mandrake and read how to in openzaurus.org |
| 22:16.24 | lardman | Good point, I might just try that - I was just worreid the problem is with my Z |
| 22:16.44 | lardman | HowTo hey...? |
| 22:16.57 | GeeSeCillo | wait |
| 22:17.25 | lardman | http://www.openzaurus.org/web/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=29&Itemid=44 ? |
| 22:17.30 | GeeSeCillo | http://openzaurus.org/web/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=29&Itemid=44 |
| 22:17.31 | GeeSeCillo | yes |
| 22:17.31 | GeeSeCillo | xD |
| 22:17.43 | lardman | Yeah, I have that working with Opie |
| 22:17.58 | lardman | Not tried yet with GPE, but worries that it won't work with WinXP |
| 22:18.05 | GeeSeCillo | opie and gpe its similar |
| 22:18.08 | lardman | s/worries/worried |
| 22:18.15 | GeeSeCillo | opie yes and gpe no? |
| 22:18.16 | GeeSeCillo | w0w |
| 22:18.45 | luke-jr_ | XP sux |
| 22:18.52 | GeeSeCillo | ;) |
| 22:19.05 | lardman | luke-jr: I'm getting that vibe now ;) |
| 22:19.32 | luke-jr_ | ? |
| 22:19.41 | lardman | XP sucking |
| 22:19.50 | luke-jr_ | it's fact =p |
| 22:19.56 | lardman | lol |
| 22:20.26 | luke-jr_ | Any idea how to set languages? |
| 22:20.32 | GeeSeCillo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:20.32 | GeeSeCillo | -rwxrwxr-x 1 root users 768 Apr 8 00:45 /media/cf/ipkg.conf |
| 22:20.32 | GeeSeCillo | root@collie:/etc# cd /media/cf/ |
| 22:20.32 | GeeSeCillo | root@collie:/media/cf# ln -s ipkg.conf /etc/ipkg.conf |
| 22:20.32 | GeeSeCillo | ln: /etc/ipkg.conf: No space left on device |
| 22:20.36 | GeeSeCillo | i confused |
| 22:20.39 | GeeSeCillo | ;-/ |
| 22:20.43 | luke-jr_ | ipkg seems to be pulling -locale-fr and -de auto |
| 22:21.04 | GeeSeCillo | i have space..!!!! |
| 22:21.23 | luke-jr_ | GeeSeCillo: your link command is bad anyway |
| 22:21.28 | luke-jr_ | that'd make a recursive link |
| 22:22.30 | GeeSeCillo | ... |
| 22:23.34 | GeeSeCillo | luke-jr_, u using 3.5.3? |
| 22:23.49 | luke-jr_ | GeeSeCillo: yes |
| 22:23.55 | GeeSeCillo | sl5500? |
| 22:24.00 | luke-jr_ | c760 |
| 22:24.05 | GeeSeCillo | ouch |
| 22:24.05 | GeeSeCillo | xD |
| 22:24.11 | GeeSeCillo | luke-jr_, df -h |
| 22:24.20 | GeeSeCillo | df -h |
| 22:24.20 | GeeSeCillo | Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on |
| 22:24.20 | GeeSeCillo | /dev/mtdblock4 14.1M 14.1M 64.0k 100% / |
| 22:24.20 | GeeSeCillo | /dev/mtdblock6 5.8M 18.0k 5.5M 0% /media/ram |
| 22:24.20 | GeeSeCillo | tmpfs 27.5M 68.0k 27.5M 0% /var |
| 22:24.42 | luke-jr_ | GeeSeCillo: you have nothing mounted on /media/cf ... |
| 22:24.54 | GeeSeCillo | /dev/hda1 23.4M 14.9M 8.6M 64% /media/cf |
| 22:24.54 | luke-jr_ | so that's part of / |
| 22:24.55 | GeeSeCillo | yes |
| 22:25.06 | luke-jr_ | bah =p |
| 22:25.12 | luke-jr_ | still, your link is on / |
| 22:25.15 | luke-jr_ | not /media/cf |
| 22:25.24 | GeeSeCillo | ;? |
| 22:25.34 | GeeSeCillo | i don't understand |
| 22:25.35 | GeeSeCillo | ;) |
| 22:25.41 | GeeSeCillo | i'm spanish |
| 22:25.51 | GeeSeCillo | my english is very poor |
| 22:25.52 | lardman | good luck all, I'm going for a reboot then bed |
| 22:25.58 | luke-jr_ | ln ipkg.conf /etc/ipkg.conf |
| 22:26.00 | GeeSeCillo | lardman, good luck |
| 22:26.00 | luke-jr_ | ln -s ipkg.conf /etc/ipkg.conf |
| 22:26.04 | luke-jr_ | that only affects /etc |
| 22:26.07 | luke-jr_ | not /media/cf |
| 22:26.36 | GeeSeCillo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:26.45 | GeeSeCillo | ln: /etc/ipkg.conf: No space left on device |
| 22:26.56 | GeeSeCillo | i have a ipkg.conf on CF |
| 22:26.57 | luke-jr_ | GeeSeCillo: you only have 64K available |
| 22:27.02 | luke-jr_ | that's close enough to full |
| 22:27.14 | GeeSeCillo | luke-jr_, i remove ipkg.conf old |
| 22:27.17 | luke-jr_ | ln -s ipkg.conf /etc/ipkg.conf <-- that command makes a link in /etc |
| 22:27.24 | GeeSeCillo | and new ipkg.conf is more small |
| 22:27.25 | luke-jr_ | ln -s ipkg.conf /etc/ipkg.conf <-- that command has no effect on /media/cf |
| 22:27.32 | lardman | night all |
| 22:27.58 | GeeSeCillo | luke-jr_, the problem is that i haven't space on / |
| 22:28.04 | GeeSeCillo | /dev/mtdblock4 14.1M 14.1M 64.0k 100% / |
| 22:28.09 | GeeSeCillo | no? |
| 22:28.21 | luke-jr_ | correct |
| 22:28.28 | luke-jr_ | that's one of the problems |
| 22:28.37 | GeeSeCillo | i don't understant it |
| 22:28.44 | luke-jr_ | what do you want to do? |
| 22:29.05 | GeeSeCillo | create a ipkg.conf |
| 22:29.13 | GeeSeCillo | because i remove old |
| 22:29.16 | luke-jr_ | with what? |
| 22:29.19 | GeeSeCillo | old ipkg.conf |
| 22:29.38 | luke-jr_ | cp /path/to/old/ipkg.conf /path/to/new/ipkg.conf |
| 22:29.40 | GeeSeCillo | luke-jr_, do u speak spanish? or understand? |
| 22:29.50 | GeeSeCillo | luke-jr_, no space on device! |
| 22:30.01 | luke-jr_ | GeeSeCillo: make more free space |
| 22:30.08 | GeeSeCillo | luke-jr_, how to?! |
| 22:30.14 | GeeSeCillo | i no install nothing |
| 22:30.22 | GeeSeCillo | only flhas it |
| 22:30.44 | GeeSeCillo | ;-/ |
| 22:30.52 | luke-jr_ | GeeSeCillo: rm stuff |
| 22:30.57 | GeeSeCillo | stuff ok |
| 22:31.09 | GeeSeCillo | rute? |
| 22:32.24 | GeeSeCillo | what rute has stuff? |
| 22:32.33 | GeeSeCillo | i don0t find it |
| 22:35.06 | GeeSeCillo | what stuff? |
| 22:35.11 | GeeSeCillo | i dont install nothing |
| 22:35.15 | GeeSeCillo | only flash it! |
| 22:40.13 | luke-jr_ | rute is not an English word |
| 22:40.28 | GeeSeCillo | path |
| 22:40.32 | GeeSeCillo | sorry |
| 22:40.43 | luke-jr_ | stuff = anything |
| 22:41.18 | GeeSeCillo | luke-jr_, but what? |
| 22:47.14 | GeeSeCillo | someone are developer 3.5.3? |
| 22:49.15 | marcansoft | GeeSeCillo: I'm spanish :) |
| 22:49.48 | GeeSeCillo | marcansoft, ;) |
| 22:49.54 | GeeSeCillo | u are developer? |
| 22:50.15 | marcansoft | not a developer, but I try to help where I can and I hope to develop some stuff soon :P |
| 22:50.43 | GeeSeCillo | puedo hacerte un privado para hablar? xD |
| 22:50.49 | marcansoft | si :P |
| 22:50.53 | GeeSeCillo | thax |
| 22:51.10 | marcansoft | (note to non-spanish people: he just asked for a query) |
| 22:55.46 | luke-jr_ | wtf is a query in this context? =p |
| 22:55.59 | marcansoft | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.04 | marcansoft | I mean, a private chat |
| 22:56.12 | luke-jr_ | o |
| 22:56.15 | luke-jr_ | lol |
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