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01:33.03jcurrytee-hee...i feel stupid asking this...what is the default root password for 3.5.3?
01:45.30luke-jr_jcurry: none
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01:45.52jcurryhmmm...cause i get a password denied error, for some reason
01:46.05luke-jr_jcurry: GPE image asks for a password to set on first boot
01:46.15jcurryi'm using opie
01:46.23jcurryi was trying to ssh in
01:46.37luke-jr_Opie is passwordless, IIRC
01:46.44luke-jr_locally anyway
01:46.55luke-jr_SSH doesn't usually permit passwordless logins
01:47.01jcurryright...and it was passwordless in 3.5.2
01:47.10jcurryssh was in 3.5.2
01:47.17luke-jr_It had a patch that allowed it
01:47.20luke-jr_the patch was removed
01:47.23luke-jr_cuz it's insecure
01:48.01jcurryright
01:52.22luke-jr_so set a password
01:53.25jcurryi'll do that...as soo as i'm done reflashing
01:53.32jcurryi must have screwed something up
01:53.47jcurrycause opie was telling me none of my binaries existed
01:53.57jcurrytee-hee...i love reflashing
01:54.31luke-jr_lol
01:59.33luke-jr_Anyone know what 'keylaunch' is?
02:00.33jcurryno...what about opie-qss?
02:00.58cynyou can click and hold in the graphical manager to get info
02:01.03cynit takes a few secs
02:01.33luke-jr_cyn: AFAIK, it doesn't have a UI
02:01.44luke-jr_I don't even know what package it's part of
02:01.57luke-jr_nm
02:02.01luke-jr_pkg is obvious
02:02.26jcurrycyn, it didn't have a description
02:04.01cynbummer
02:04.34cynmaybe a config for the app keys, tho i thought that was builtin
02:05.40luke-jr_lol
02:05.52luke-jr_interesting that keylaunch is what acts on app keys
02:05.57luke-jr_and it breaks matchbox
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02:13.38cynno i just said it might, and stipulated a concern with that too :)
02:13.43cyni have nfc
02:17.22luke-jr_cyn: keylaunch does
02:24.24cyn... keylaunch, A small utility for binding commands to a hot key.   sure enough
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03:17.01trichmonI saw the 3.5.3 is out but the files in the 6000l dir dont match the install instructions.  Anyone know how to use them to install?
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04:52.20floridajinDoes anyone know if the USB network problem on C7x0 zauruses is fixed in 3.5.3?
05:13.13floridajinHmm... guess that's a no...
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05:49.19F3l1xKatI have a sl-6000 and when I try and run openzaurus half of the programs do not run, however if I use the sharp ROM they work
05:49.40F3l1xKatam I doing something wrong?
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09:13.24dballesterhi to all
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09:21.16dballesterafter flashing my SL5500S with 3.5.3, i only get the openzaurus initial logo, and the with blinking cursor. zImage is http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/sl5000,sl5500/zImage-collie-58-6-20050407102515.bin and initrd.bin is http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/sl5000,sl5500/gpe-image-collie-20050407173817.rootfs.jffs2
09:22.16lardmandid yo ucheck md5sums?
09:22.26dballestermmmhh...
09:22.29dballesterwait
09:22.32lardmansounds like kernel flashed, but initd.bin didn't
09:22.54lardmans/initd.bin/initrd.bin
09:27.10dballestermd5sum ok for zImage, but may be corrupt for gpe :/
09:27.54dballesterthanks for the tip, i must begin to not belive blindly in my internet connection :P
09:28.22lardman:)
09:29.15CoreDump|homemorning
09:29.42lardmanmorning
09:30.02hrw|workhi coredump
10:05.03dballesterlardman|busy, FW now up & running
10:05.36dballesterFW typo error ->FYI
10:09.29lardman|gonedballester: glad to hear you've got it sorted
10:12.23lardman|gonehmm, I think I need to close an IRC window
10:12.34lardman|busythat's better
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12:08.53Lee__I have a somewhat related question. I have a linksys WCF12 wifi card which works with the recent testing of OZ. Yet when I use the same card on my laptop with Debian and the same drivers (hostap_cs) it cannot associate with an access point. It insists on staying in Master mode.
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13:08.49lardman|busyHmm. Attempting to run 'ipkg update' over a trial wifi network at uni
13:09.00lardman|busyI can't ping much (google for example)
13:09.08lardman|busybut I can connect with a web browser
13:09.25lardman|busyI've set http_proxy=www.blahblah.ac.uk:3128
13:09.40lardman|busybut still no wget
13:09.57lardman|busydo I need to edit .wgetrc, or should the env var sort it?
13:12.46lardman|busyJust added the same to .wgetrc (not that it needs it as I note it tries passive ftp)
13:12.59lardman|busyand it still fails with "No route to host"
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13:23.11lardman|busyOkay, I seem to have partially tracked down the error - openzaurus.org appears to me as 66.35.250.210
13:23.26lardman|busyis this correct? as it doesn't have the info on it which ipkg is looking for
13:23.39lardman|busyEither that, or my nameserver is re-directing me somewhere it shouldn't
13:23.54hrw|work~nslookup openzaurus.org
13:24.10lardman|busyftp...
13:24.17lardman|busynext test to do, hang on a tick
13:25.00lardman|busydamn, can't do ftp with minimo
13:27.05lardman|busyHow does ipkg try to download things? it says --passive-ftp, but then gives an url with http:// on the front
13:36.50lardman|busyRight, so for some reason wget refuses to work - anybody have an ideas?
13:37.07XorAlardman|busy: wget on oz isnt wget, its busybox
13:37.59lardman|busyBit mroe info: I can't ping openzaurus.org, but can browse it via http proxy; I've set env var http_proxy and also in .wgetrc, I've also tried the wget -proxy on flag
13:38.06lardman|busyXorA: hmm
13:38.30lardman|busyso it probably doens't obey the proxy settings then?
13:39.14wpikumorning
13:39.22XorAlardman|busy: in my experience busybox doesnt do anything in standard way
13:40.00lardman|busyXorA: right - time to find a proper version of wget which I can download using my brower :)
13:40.16lardman|busyXorA: thanks for reminding me about busybox
13:41.07XorAlardman|busy: you on a PXA?
13:43.42XorAhttp://hyboria.mine.nu/~dp/feed/wget_1.9.1-r1_armv5te.ipk
13:51.12lardman|busyyes, I am, I'll try that
13:51.27lardman|busyI just looked and busybox wget is supposed to do proxies
14:02.30lardman|busyhmm, just noticed that capital y is not possible with GPE on my c750
14:07.49lardman|busyRight, recommendations for what to read to understand routing...?
14:08.37XorAlardman|busy: in what sense?
14:12.41lardman|busyI was messing about last night trying to get internet connection sharing working on XP
14:12.57lardman|busyand I have a feeling that I need to sort out my routes somewhere (XP or Z, I've no idea)
14:13.15lardman|busybecause although I could ping my dns server, I couldn't go any further than that
14:13.32XorAlardman|busy: ip address on XP, 192.168.0.1, ip address on Z 192.168.0.X route add default gw 192.168.0.1 on Z
14:13.54lardman|busyyes, I have that
14:14.04lardman|busythen I need to route over my dial up connection
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14:14.20lardman|busywhich itself has another gateway
14:14.22XorAlardman|busy: ICS is a NAT, so Z doesnt need to know any more than that
14:14.37lardman|busyhmm, well it doesn't work then
14:14.51XorAI have Z->XP->Company Gateway here
14:14.59XorAso 2 NAT's between me and real world
14:15.12lardman|busyThat's pretty much what I have
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14:15.29lardman|busybut I just couldn't get it to ping anything outside (e.g. google)
14:15.54lardman|busymuch like the issues I'm having atm with this bloody wifi network
14:16.12lardman|busyI can ping stuff at uni - dns, gateway, etc., but not outside
14:16.53XorAlardman|busy: can you ping them from the desktop?
14:17.01lardman|busyyes of course ;)
14:17.10lardman|busythat would be stupid, even for me
14:17.14XorAlardman|busy: windows has a nasty proxy system which is transparent, MSPROXY
14:17.32lardman|busywhich proxies what servies?
14:17.40lardman|busys/servies/services
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14:19.06lardman|busyMy setup: Z <-- usb --> WinXP <--modem--> uni gw <--something--> internet; I could ping up to the uni gw bit, but not beyond
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14:20.47lardman|busyThe thing I found strange, was that my XP box's IP address from uni was 172.x.x.x (same for the gw of course); I could ping through this to 138.38.x.x (dns server), but couldn't go further
14:21.15lardman|busywhen I say ping, I mean ping from my Z which was attached as 192.168.x.x via usb through XP box as its gw
14:21.36hrw|workz->usb->linux(desktop)->company gw->net
14:23.14gssomeone use kismet with cf wifi prism2?
14:23.24gscan tell me a source? for kismet.conf?
14:23.26gsplease
14:23.46lardman|busyhrw & WorA: reassuring that others can get it to work. But not me! arrgghhh ;)
14:23.58lardman|busyoops typo, sorry XorA
14:25.31hrw|worklardman|busy: all what I did was two iptables and one echo
14:25.32XorAgs: source=prism,wlan0,prism
14:25.45gsXorA, no run
14:26.29gsFATAL: Unknown capture source type 'prism' in source 'prism,wlan0,Prism'
14:26.56gsand is a prism and iwconfig i see
14:34.39lardman|busyb*llocks
14:34.43lardman|busyguess what it was
14:34.44XorAgs: www.kismetwireless.net
14:35.05lardman|busybusybox wget requires that the http_proxy env var has a trailing slash
14:35.37lardman|busyand the lack of ping'ing appears to be a uni policy, not a connection error
14:37.21gsok ok
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14:42.02lardman|busyGPE Question - GXine, mplayer or VLC - which is the recommended media player?
14:45.38lardman|busyvls i've just been told
14:45.47lardman|busys/vls/vlc
14:45.54lardman|busyI really need to sort out my typing
14:52.20XorAlardman|busy: get mplayer-atty from my feed, it will play 320x240 divx with accelleration at 30fps
14:52.41XorAlardman|busy: if you on a C7x0 device anyway
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15:01.20lardman|busyXorA: sounds nice
15:01.27lardman|busywhere's your feed?
15:02.51XorAhttp://hyboria.mine.nu/~dp/feed/
15:03.02XorAlardman|busy: you need to fbset -n -xres 320 -yres 240
15:03.03lardman|busyOne more thing - where is VLC? I can't seem to find it in any of the 3.5.3 feeds
15:03.27XorAlardman|busy: and mplayer -vo w100 -vop rotate=1,scale=320:240
15:05.05lardman|busywhat does fbset do?
15:05.57hrw|workchange resolution etc
15:06.13hrw|workhow to 'fix' xine to play at normal speed? :)
15:06.35gssomeone use ettercap?
15:06.45gsi cant use this app
15:07.00gsi need more screen
15:07.01gs;)
15:08.00lardman|busyhrw|work: ~/Settings/something with xine in the name.conf
15:08.12lardman|busyuncomment the commented line in the conf file
15:08.27hrw|workthx
15:10.04lardman|busyCould we have vlc-gpe added to the upgrades feed as and when
15:11.36XorAGPE doesnt support xrandr resizing yet does it?
15:11.47lardman|busyno idea
15:16.27hrw|work/dev/mmcblk0p1          246008 18014398509367644    360348 1278950737% /media/card
15:16.31hrw|workoops...
15:16.55hrw|workmount/umount helps
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15:36.58hrw|worksound quality in c7x0/opie is argh...
15:38.02XorAhrw|work: do you mean opie sounds?
15:39.49hrw|workopie-mediaplayer with one mp3 file
15:39.53hrw|workvia speaker
15:40.26XorAspeaker sucks, I found phones have less noise than collie
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15:56.01lardman|busyopie-player2 was a bit pants before, xmms was fine, has this been fixed for 3.5.3
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17:19.40lardmanbye all
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18:17.01Jason-Bourneanyone got gentoo on a C3000
18:17.03Jason-Bourneheh
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18:19.35trichmonany here running the gpe image?
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19:00.50guylhem1hello - anyone with a C3000/C1000 ?
19:05.10XorA|gonenot me
19:07.10XorA|goneguylhem1: you want files off the drive?
19:15.19guylhem1::yes
19:16.42XorA|gonehttp://www.xlfag.com/zaurus/
19:16.50XorA|gonethat site any good, its got drive image
19:17.18guylhem1thanks a lot !!!!
19:32.45guylhem1which version of gcc/glibc is used currently in OZ ?
19:35.06hrwguylhem1: glibc 2.3.2+cvs20040726 and gcc 3.4.3
19:36.02guylhem1hrw, any specific reason why it's not glic 2.3.4
19:36.12guylhem1but 2.3.2 + cvs intead ?
19:36.38hrwwe used it in 3.5.1 and does not see why we had to bump it to newer
19:36.44hrwnewest is 2.3.5 btw
19:36.51guylhem1wow ok :-)
19:37.01guylhem1I'm behind :-)
19:37.19guylhem1any plan to move to newer gcc /glibc soon ?
19:37.20hrwguylhem1: iirc you created own "rom" for tosa?
19:37.31hrwguylhem1: its another sharprom clone or something new?
19:37.32guylhem1yes, currently wokring on putting OZ on it.
19:37.58guylhem1the only real innovations of my rom is the 57Mb single part and kernel keyboard support
19:38.16hrwkernel keyboard support in qt/e?
19:38.37guylhem1it's a sharp clone at the moment, with the deadbeat symlink removed, with plans to move towars OE - hence my gcc / glibc questions
19:38.42ljpor usb keyboard
19:39.13hrwljp: or any keyboard - I remember that zecke worked on getting kernel keyboard suport in qt/e
19:39.15guylhem1keyboard support is so stupid in the default kernel - same keys on the internal and external keyboard have conflicting keycodes. took me some time to fix that
19:39.40ljpoh, ya qte
19:39.50hrwtoday I got c760 - mapping is so different when compared to 5500....
19:40.00guylhem1I have a bluetooth keyboard (and usb etc.) and wanted to fix that. the only remaining problem is sharp hardcoded keycode 30 (a) to Fn.
19:40.14hrwand now I will have to do hardest part - define Polish keyboard for it..
19:40.19guylhem1:-)
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19:40.27hrwhi Cwiiis  
19:40.45guylhem1hrw, got showkey ? try to press on a then fn and report me the keycodes (just curious to know)
19:40.48CwiiisHey hrw
19:41.10hrwljp: qt/e4 handle kernel keyboards or like 2.3 has lots of "device keyboards"?
19:41.19hrwguylhem1: will see
19:41.42hrwit boots now..
19:42.11hrwOZ 3.5.3 with 2.6 kernel has nice ELPP screen on boot...
19:42.36guylhem1hrw - any plan to switch to a newer gcc / glibc in the future ? I'm compiling my toolchain and I'd rather like to avoid addtl changes
19:43.01hrwguylhem1: rather switch to uclibc
19:43.13guylhem1any reason ?
19:43.22hrwsize
19:43.31guylhem1speed, fctions ?
19:43.35hrwspeed also
19:43.41hrwuclibc is 1/3 of glibc
19:44.52hrwguylhem1: "a" = keycode 30, "Fn" = keycode 61 (c760 with 2.6.11)
19:45.47guylhem1hrw, that's on OZ - on sharp it's broken :/
19:46.16hrwguylhem1: in 2.6 many things are fixed and changed
19:46.43XorA|gone2.6.11 uses normal kernel keymap with proper keymap loaded on boot
19:47.00guylhem1I see - my work was concentrating on keyboard support...
19:47.29hrwXorA|gone: first I will have to read them and create Polish one.. then method to change it by user..
19:47.51XorA|gonehrw: your gonna upset opie :-)
19:49.15hrwman...
19:49.46hrwok. time to leave
19:49.55hrwbye
19:52.01guylhem1anyway I'll try to get uclibc wokring...
19:53.09luke-jr_hmm
19:53.23luke-jr_how did keylaunch get into the OZ images?
19:53.32luke-jr_it's not in the feed...
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19:58.11Cwiiisluke-jr_: It's a requirement of gpe-image (dependency of gpe-conf I think) - Why it isn't in the feed, I don't know
19:58.23CwiiisOn collie it isn't used
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20:09.46tpddanyone here using a 6000l?
20:11.26luke-jr_Cwiiis: it breaks GPE...
20:11.50Cwiiisluke-jr_: It can conflict with matchbox-wm
20:12.01Cwiiisluke-jr_: Removing the keylaunch config file fixes that
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20:26.36guylhem1oops
20:27.12guylhem1I am using gnustep which sometimes has tabbing problems. It tries to give focus to 2 wins at the same time.
20:27.17guylhem1:-)
20:33.59guylhem1if I could prepare a toolchaim arm-xscale-softfloat-uclib, could someone give me a hand and create a tosa image with it ?
20:34.05ljpi have a 6000
20:34.22guylhem1cool - so do I. 6000w - best machine I've ever had
20:34.45XorA|goneguylhem1: OE will generate that if you define the correct stuff in local.conf
20:35.02guylhem1XorA|gone : I don't have enough space for OE on my hd
20:35.08XorA|goneguylhem1: :-(
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20:48.12lardmanrfcomm dev entries for 2.4.18 kernel c7x0 machines - they don't exist - should they?
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21:10.41Cwiiisguylhem1: Isn't hard using uclibc with oe - you just define TARGET_OS = "linux-uclibc"
21:11.35guylhem1could someone put glibc-20040726 source somewhere?
21:12.03guylhem1Cwillis - I don't have enough hd space for oe - at the moment I'm preparing a toolchain to be compatible with oe
21:17.16Cwiiisguylhem1: There are no 'L's in my name :p
21:17.36Cwiiisbut yeah, good stuff :)
21:21.40guylhem1Cwiis - if you have the glibc source used by oe, I'd be interested
21:23.24Cwiiisguylhem1: oe retrieves it from anonymous CVS (date 20040726)
21:23.37Cwiiisguylhem1: cvs://anoncvs@sources.redhat.com/cvs/glibc;module=libc
21:26.59guylhem1usingcvs -z3 -d:pserver:anoncvs@sources.redhat.com/cvs/glibc co -P libc
21:27.29guylhem1more ../downloads/libc/README
21:27.29guylhem1This directory contains the version 2.3.4
21:27.33guylhem1:-/
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21:31.19guylhem1Cwillist, if you have glibc-2.3.2+cvs20040726 I'm interested
21:34.00Cwiiisguylhem1: You need to specify the date when fetching from CVS - and again, my name contains no 'L's, only 'I's... And especially no 'T's :p
21:34.30XorA|goneCwiiis: needs tab completion :-)
21:34.46guylhem1sorry again :-) I must tell you - I'm a big fan of Bruce Willis. So in my mind you were C Willis. the t is just a mistake :-)
21:34.58CwiiisXorA|gone: Yes, or a decent font that can differentiate between lower-case 'i' and 'l' :p
21:35.10Cwiiisguylhem1: Ah, no, just 'Cwiiis' as in 'Chris', mispronounced
21:35.18guylhem1ok :-)
21:35.26guylhem1how do you specify the date ?
21:35.36guylhem1which glibcthread is also used ?
21:36.20Cwiiisguylhem1: I have libc, but it's 18 megs :p I don't know what glibcthread is used, isn't that just part of glibc?
21:36.33CwiiisYou can check all this information by getting OE of course, you don't have to use it
21:43.56guylhem1can't. http://treke.net/oe/snapshots/ is down, and my bk is too old :/
21:44.03guylhem1I will try to update it
21:51.54Cwiiisgood idea
21:54.58wpikuhey guys, I have an SL-C3k.. has anyone heard of hte error message "QPaintDevice: Must construct a QApplication before a QPaintDevice" on scummvm and castce
21:55.02wpikurather castaway
21:55.47wpikuI have a zports libSDL installed that's supposed to be specific for the C3k
21:55.51wpikuthe arrow keys are right and such
22:21.19guylhem1using bitbake I can't get the tar.gz on treke site
22:21.38guylhem1libc_sources.redhat.com__20040726.tar.gz
22:24.06CwiiisPerhaps it's down, use CVS
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22:36.04guylhem1NOTE: Applying patch 'arm-ioperm.patch'
22:36.04guylhem1ERROR: function do_patchcmd failed
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23:17.20luke-jr_Is there a suggested way to enable application keys?
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