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| 00:25.07 | gerrynjr | still have the limited-root issue 8(, thus, unable to install tons of apps ont eh sd 8( |
| 00:25.12 | gerrynjr | but, great release |
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| 00:52.40 | gerrynjr | hmmm,, linking fails 8( |
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| 01:14.27 | daekus | Hello, im trying to find out if alarms not working while susspended is a know issue on the zaurus 6000l or if it may be something im doing wrong. |
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| 01:32.14 | daekus | what i see in the forums and relwase notes just say that alarms dont work for gpe but they dont mention anything about the opie image. |
| 01:38.46 | kaplanfx | when I hold the directional pad button to the right for a couple seconds using oz 3.5.3 (on collie 5500) it shuts off |
| 01:39.15 | kaplanfx | and it takes a replace battery switch reset to start up again |
| 01:39.44 | kaplanfx | I can't tell if its just the screen completely shutting off, or if the device actually shuts off |
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| 02:17.47 | jumpkick | kaplanfx: I had the same thing happen to me today |
| 02:18.14 | jumpkick | it looks like it's suspending without preping for waking up |
| 02:18.32 | jumpkick | it's happens if you drop to console too, so it's not opie |
| 02:19.19 | jumpkick | sigh... |
| 02:22.24 | gerrynjr | i've gtot the same issue 8( |
| 02:22.37 | gerrynjr | got the same issue rather 8-) |
| 02:23.35 | jumpkick | I just posted it to the release notes for collie |
| 02:25.24 | jumpkick | it's a very annoying bug... I was going to contribute a holiday's xml file for Canadian holidays... editing, scroll to the side with the D-pad and poof... machine is dead... |
| 02:27.18 | jumpkick | seems like there are regressions of one sort or another with each release |
| 02:29.34 | cyn | there was some mention about that holding key thing existing previously |
| 02:29.54 | cyn | i dunno whether the talk was that it was a bug that resurfaced or what |
| 02:44.51 | cyn | so for the 640x480 Z's - is there a need for someone to redo icons, or do we just need to have the original artist regenerate them, or what? If there is a need for creating icons (opie is theme-compatible with kde afaik, so maybe there isnt a need) i would be interested |
| 02:49.27 | kaplanfx | jumpkick: it sucks, I can't use snes9x |
| 02:49.39 | kaplanfx | you have to hold d-pad a lot |
| 02:50.19 | kaplanfx | cyn: I was talking about it last night, maybe that is what you remember |
| 02:52.06 | cyn | Apr 16 16:02:00 <vol> yea its in the forums |
| 02:52.07 | cyn | Apr 16 16:02:16 <vol> its set to suspend when holding the arrow keys |
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| 02:52.16 | cyn | Apr 16 16:36:47 <vol> yea, people were complaining about it in the forums, the |
| 02:52.16 | cyn | re was a fix for it in there |
| 02:58.23 | kaplanfx | cyn: I searched the forums, didn't find anything |
| 02:58.29 | kaplanfx | do you have a link to the thread? |
| 02:59.00 | kaplanfx | if its delete /dev/apm-bios I tried that with no success |
| 03:03.57 | kaplanfx | ok found a thread, reading :) |
| 03:10.48 | kaplanfx | that didn't help, now it comes back from suspend without the soft reset, but its still suspending when the button is held down |
| 03:17.02 | jumpkick | just posted list of canadian holidays for datebook here: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=12071 |
| 03:17.34 | jumpkick | I looked in the forums too... didn't see it... |
| 03:18.20 | jumpkick | I would classify this as more then an annoyance because it crashes the Z... it would be nice to see the devs address it on the release notes |
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| 04:36.19 | tpdd | Hello, im trying to find out if alarms on opie on a 6000l are supposed to work while suspended or if its something im doing wrong. |
| 04:39.56 | ljp | well, they _should_ work, but that does not mean that they actually do |
| 04:43.37 | tpdd | i wonder if it is a known bug and if so is there anything I can do to help (post logs etc) |
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| 07:12.15 | alan | uhgh ! |
| 07:12.28 | alan | ave ceasar |
| 07:12.33 | alan | salut |
| 07:12.36 | alan | bonjour |
| 07:12.38 | alan | hi! |
| 07:12.41 | alan | etc... |
| 07:12.44 | alan | ^^ |
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| 08:25.59 | Bernardo | good morning guys |
| 08:26.58 | alan | mouarrrgh.... oz 3.5.3 gpe is very buggy on my c750... i really miss a complete documentation... |
| 08:27.12 | Bernardo | I finally got a pan network going with my c1000, but now can't telnet into it, as it seems to refuse all logins as root. Anyone knows a user/password that works on a stock sharp rom? |
| 08:29.07 | alan | Bernardo: no, i'm sorry... |
| 08:30.38 | XorA | Bernardo: nop password for root |
| 08:31.39 | alan | XorA: do you know the command line to launch the screen configurator ? when i launch it with an icon, it simply crashes at start... |
| 08:34.41 | XorA | alan: xcalibrate or something like that |
| 08:35.03 | XorA | alan: or actually maybe not, if you in GPE, not sure what you are talking of |
| 08:36.25 | Bernardo | XorA: the latest sharp rom asks you a password for "su" if you set a pin |
| 08:36.43 | Bernardo | anyway, I'm checking to see if the problem is with securetty |
| 08:37.27 | XorA | Bernardo: its been years since I used a sharp ROM :-) |
| 08:37.29 | hrw|work | Bernardo: add bt port to securetty |
| 08:37.49 | alan | XorA: i'm sorry, i don't want to bother you, you already helped me quite a lot. What i'm looking for is to set the backlight level. |
| 08:37.52 | hrw|work | XorA: for me it was 5 days |
| 08:38.09 | alan | hrw|work: ^^ |
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| 08:38.21 | hrw|work | hi alan |
| 08:38.25 | alan | yesterday for me... but for 5 minutes long ^^ |
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| 08:39.56 | XorA | alan: I am currently terying to compile GPE |
| 08:40.31 | XorA | alan: while I am here I am free to be bothered |
| 08:40.46 | Bernardo | hrw|work, XorA: securetty was the "culprit" |
| 08:41.01 | Bernardo | the sharprom in the akita is quite nice, actually |
| 08:41.12 | Bernardo | vi knows "." |
| 08:41.12 | alan | XorA: thanks ^^ |
| 08:45.43 | Radiance | hey guys, bugs which get discovered in 3.5.3 ... are they fixed/patched in 3.5.3 or should we wait for 3.5.4 ? |
| 08:46.50 | hrw|work | Radiance: some will be fixed via upgrades feed |
| 08:47.10 | Radiance | oh okay, cool |
| 08:47.25 | hrw|work | Radiance: but it will be best if someone will work on bugs and give as patches, details etc |
| 08:47.41 | Radiance | yeah i know, that's what i'm doing hehe |
| 08:48.35 | hrw|work | ;) |
| 08:49.14 | hrw|work | I like to say that info each time when someone talk about bugs - some users stop complain then and start working on bug |
| 08:50.45 | alan | Maybe we should open a thread on oesf forum and list every bug found, the developpers' sask will be easier this way. Is there already such a thread ? |
| 08:51.46 | hrw|work | alan: we can - will you take care of it? |
| 08:53.24 | alan | oki, no pb ! |
| 08:55.34 | hrw|work | ok - create thread and I will pin it |
| 09:03.33 | alan | hrw|work: done |
| 09:07.10 | hrw|work | ok |
| 09:08.29 | hrw|work | pined |
| 09:08.56 | alan | hrw|work: ^^ |
| 09:09.24 | hrw|work | alan: add one field: bugtracker where bug is reported and what bugnumber it got |
| 09:11.45 | alan | ok |
| 09:12.02 | hrw|work | let user learn that not reported bug is nothing |
| 09:12.08 | hrw|work | I will add post about it there |
| 09:12.47 | alan | ok |
| 09:21.41 | Rupert-Giles | i ain afraid of no ghosts. |
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| 10:35.17 | hrw|work | it looks like battery in my husky doesd not know what to say.. |
| 10:35.23 | hrw|work | 100% still |
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| 10:37.52 | alan | hrw|work: do you use a 2.6 kernel ? it's a known bug, i think |
| 10:38.15 | hrw|work | 2.6.11 |
| 10:38.27 | hrw|work | I can live with it |
| 10:38.37 | hrw|work | I have working bt |
| 10:39.52 | alan | hrw|work: Code which currently works but needs rewriting for submission to the kernel: |
| 10:39.52 | alan | Corgi Battery Driver and Power Control (corgi_power) |
| 10:40.03 | alan | from http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/ |
| 10:41.00 | hrw|work | alan: I know that |
| 10:43.19 | XorA | hrw|work: battery on my boxer is fairly accurate |
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| 10:49.36 | hrw|work | root@c7x0:~# cat /proc/apm |
| 10:49.36 | hrw|work | 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x00 0x00 0x01 100% -1 ? |
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| 10:49.41 | hrw|work | still |
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| 10:55.16 | XorA | hrw|work: did you have problems with husky gpe? |
| 10:55.41 | hrw|work | XorA: no problems - didnt even tries gpe |
| 10:56.12 | XorA | hrw|work: ok, the OZ 3.5.3 mage must not work on top of 2.6 :-( |
| 10:56.38 | hrw|work | I know |
| 10:56.54 | XorA | have to make it myself |
| 10:57.32 | lardman | XorA: can you clarify - have the GPE issues been resolved? |
| 10:58.30 | hrw|work | lardman: one left |
| 10:58.45 | lardman | cool |
| 10:58.59 | hrw|work | lardman: X have to switch to vc before suspend |
| 10:59.22 | XorA | lardman: which is what I want to look at |
| 10:59.44 | lardman | I see |
| 10:59.56 | lardman | I've got less work on now, so if I can help out I'm more than happy to do so |
| 11:00.10 | lardman | I'll have to resurrect my build machine... |
| 11:21.32 | hrw|work | someone grouped multiple network interfaces into one? I'm thinking how to configure Z to connect via usb0, bnep0, wlan0 as one interface depending on which one is available |
| 11:21.49 | hrw|work | XorA: finally battery is 98% |
| 11:22.33 | XorA | hrw|work: you got big battery? |
| 11:23.12 | hrw|work | XorA: yes |
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| 11:23.42 | hrw|work | and Z is now with hinge closed so display is off |
| 11:23.48 | XorA | hrw|work: you realise that has a 4 hour battery life? and with power saving it will go like 6 hours |
| 11:24.03 | hrw|work | or atleast it should be off |
| 11:24.10 | hrw|work | XorA: cool |
| 11:24.30 | XorA | hrw|work: and when RP brings in cpufreq it will get even longer |
| 11:26.43 | hrw|work | 4-6days, weeks etc ;) |
| 11:31.46 | alan | the package manager shouldn't read the package list each time it is launched !! it is so slllllllloooooooooooooowww... Maybe only when it is asked to... |
| 11:32.06 | hrw|work | alan: how else can he show pkg list? |
| 11:33.10 | alan | couldn't it save this list as a single text file ? It takes nearly one minute to show me the list... |
| 11:34.18 | alan | unless that is how he already works, i don't know, ^^' |
| 11:34.53 | hrw|work | alan: you can have multiple feeds |
| 11:35.00 | hrw|work | each feed is separated list |
| 11:35.12 | hrw|work | use one feed so you will have one list |
| 11:36.31 | alan | oh... i understand... |
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| 11:45.08 | alan | another not that silly, i promess) question : is there a way to get ride of the ./home partition ? i never keep any important file inside the zaurus, and i'd like to use the internal memory to install more apps (that is what i did on pdaxrom). Do you think it may work if i had /home as a dest in /etc/ipkg.conf ? |
| 11:45.23 | lardman | yes it does work |
| 11:45.29 | alan | glop glop !! |
| 11:45.34 | lardman | this is what I've been doing the whole time |
| 11:45.40 | hrw|work | alan: better use /home/packages/ |
| 11:45.51 | alan | oki ! thanks ! |
| 11:46.17 | lardman | Damn, I need to extract digit and try to get my ratoc card working with 2.6 :( |
| 11:51.00 | hrw|work | someone connected two Z via usbnet in one time? |
| 11:51.42 | lardman | Not yet, but I'll try tonight (might need to trawl my build box for some modules though) |
| 11:51.52 | hrw|work | I wonder how to make it.. usb0/usb1 both pointopoint on desktop or making usb0 on desktop and small net so both Z will see each other... |
| 11:52.02 | alan | hrw|work: i did |
| 11:52.10 | alan | oups, no |
| 11:52.14 | hrw|work | ;( |
| 11:52.15 | alan | not 2 Z.... |
| 11:52.25 | alan | i understood to Z |
| 11:52.29 | alan | ^^' |
| 11:52.48 | lardman | Oh, I misunderstood too |
| 11:52.57 | lardman | That said, I've done what you were asking |
| 11:53.03 | lardman | On my XP machine though |
| 11:53.53 | hrw|work | lardman: which net configuration? |
| 11:54.24 | lardman | both Zs on 192.168 |
| 11:54.31 | hrw|work | in one net? |
| 11:54.54 | hrw|work | so they see each other |
| 11:54.54 | lardman | Windows sets up routing automagically (one good thing about it) |
| 11:55.08 | lardman | I never checked to see if they could see each other directly |
| 11:55.18 | lardman | but there's no reason why not |
| 11:56.01 | hrw|work | ok |
| 11:56.41 | alan | ok, i have added /home/packages in ipkg.conf, now can i install directly a package on it or should i use ipkg-link, and how ? |
| 11:57.46 | lardman | install package to whatever you called the dest, then ipkg-link it |
| 11:58.01 | alan | ok. thanks again |
| 11:58.01 | hrw|work | or use opie-packagemanager which will do linking |
| 11:58.11 | alan | i use gpe... |
| 12:00.14 | hrw|work | on 2.4.18 when usb cable is disconnected do you have usbd0 up or down? |
| 12:00.28 | lardman | up I think |
| 12:00.35 | lardman | it seems to stay that way all the time |
| 12:00.38 | hrw|work | can you look? |
| 12:00.55 | alan | down,whenever i ubplug the Z here |
| 12:01.02 | alan | unplug* |
| 12:01.04 | lardman | yep, up |
| 12:01.30 | lardman | I'm running GPE 2.4.18 on a Shepherd |
| 12:01.39 | hrw|work | lardman: and it is always up? |
| 12:01.53 | lardman | yes |
| 12:02.17 | lardman | unless, I change the ip address (which is static), then it goes down then, back up |
| 12:02.45 | alan | usbd0 is on the Z side or on the pc side ? |
| 12:03.03 | hrw|work | Z |
| 12:03.32 | alan | ok ! so same as lardman... i'm pathetic... ^^' |
| 12:03.45 | hrw|work | up |
| 12:03.47 | hrw|work | ? |
| 12:04.34 | alan | just like th ir interface, which i never use... |
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| 12:06.08 | hrw|work | ok. sent letter to admin - maybe he has some ideas |
| 12:07.51 | alan | aarhhhh !!!! i don't understand anything to ipkg-link !!!! i installed abiword and all its dependencies on /home/packages, but now what ? how diificult to be a newbie... |
| 12:08.08 | hrw|work | alan: ipkg mount /home/packages |
| 12:08.10 | XorA | ipkg-link mount /home/packages |
| 12:08.23 | hrw|work | s/ipkg/ipkg-link |
| 12:08.23 | alan | once for all ? |
| 12:08.27 | hrw|work | XorA: has right |
| 12:08.59 | alan | thank you guys ! |
| 12:10.15 | alan | YEAH !!!! abiword is back on my Z !!!! thanks a lot a lot a lot !!!!!!!!! |
| 12:11.59 | lardman | hrw|work: yes, strange that about the IR interface being up all of the time |
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| 12:18.02 | lardman | hrw|work: why were you wondering - so you could try to group them all and connect to whichever is available? |
| 12:18.03 | hrw|work | lardman: yes |
| 12:18.36 | alan | oki, i have to go, i'm already late ! |
| 12:18.44 | lardman | does usbd0 go on your Z when you disconnect? |
| 12:18.45 | alan | bye and thanks again !!!! ;) |
| 12:18.53 | lardman | alan: bye |
| 12:19.10 | hrw|work | lardman: ideal situation is: Z-husky has 192.168.15.2 over usb0/bnep0/wlan0, Z-collie has 192.168.15.3 over usbd0/bnep0/wlan0, desktop has 192.168.15.1 on usb0/bnep0/wlan0 and do NAT/MASQ |
| 12:19.21 | hrw|work | lardman: dont have 2.4.18 here |
| 12:19.37 | lardman | no, I meant with the 2.6.11 kernel |
| 12:19.41 | hrw|work | is up |
| 12:19.59 | hrw|work | bnep0, lo0, usb0 are up |
| 12:20.00 | XorA | hrw|work: eeep, bridging, nasty stuff |
| 12:20.20 | hrw|work | XorA: but what fun when it will work ;) |
| 12:20.25 | lardman | Windows hey, I knew there had to be some advantage to it ;) |
| 12:20.37 | XorA | hrw|work: does brctl for Z in OE exist? |
| 12:21.04 | hrw|work | XorA: afaik bridge-utils are in OE (added by slug people or wrt54) |
| 12:21.21 | XorA | hrw|work: perfectly do able then :-) |
| 12:21.44 | hrw|work | XorA: bt is wireless but 50KB/s is slower then usb0 (400KB/s) so if I can do cable then I will do for large data |
| 12:22.10 | hrw|work | XorA: but why use cable and sit near desktop when I can seat in bed and use bt? |
| 12:22.23 | hrw|work | why I will have to switch gateways? |
| 12:22.39 | hrw|work | ok. time for lunch |
| 12:23.43 | lardman | why not setup a seperate IP for each connection method, then you can use the same gw, and have your Linux box alter the routing when you connect |
| 12:24.38 | lardman | In fact, other than convenience for the end user, I can't see what the probelem is anyway |
| 12:24.55 | XorA | you shouldnt need to switch gateways of both ends are bridged, all packets will go out of all interfaces |
| 12:25.23 | lardman | ah, that kind of gw switching - I see now |
| 12:25.40 | lardman | you'll have to alter the gw on the Z as each device on the Linux box will have a different IP |
| 12:25.55 | lardman | BT dongle, WiFi dongle, USB adaptor, etc. |
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| 13:17.05 | hrw|work | re |
| 13:54.40 | lardman | hrw|work: I don't suffer from your gw problems as I never have wifi or bt dongle attached at the same time - so I give them the same IP |
| 13:56.41 | hrw|work | lardman: who know - maybe I will have wifi in collie and bt in husky at one time.. |
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| 14:17.07 | hrw|work | I have to learn more about bt.. and write script which will bring bnep0 up after inserting card |
| 14:24.07 | sequethin | do cf cards have to be formatted with a particular filesystem to work properly? |
| 14:24.52 | sequethin | i mean with a default install of 3.5.3 |
| 14:25.12 | lardman | what do you want to do with it? |
| 14:25.34 | sequethin | mount it |
| 14:25.42 | lardman | hrw|work: This already happens for the wifi cards doesn't it? |
| 14:25.55 | sequethin | its telling me No such file or address =/ |
| 14:26.00 | hrw|work | lardman: yes |
| 14:26.05 | lardman | sequethin: er, ok, and then what do you want to do with it? |
| 14:26.16 | hrw|work | sequethin: what does "cardctl ident" say? |
| 14:26.22 | lardman | sequethin: what mount command have you issued? |
| 14:26.46 | sequethin | mount /media/cf (since it was in /etc/fstab already) |
| 14:27.37 | sequethin | it says specifically "Mounting /dev/hda1 on /media/cf failed: No such device or address" |
| 14:27.44 | sequethin | this is on an SL-860 |
| 14:27.54 | lardman | does /dev/hda1 exist? |
| 14:28.06 | sequethin | yep |
| 14:28.14 | sequethin | and so does /media/cf |
| 14:28.28 | lardman | what about hrw's suggestion - cardctl ident |
| 14:29.28 | hrw|work | sequethin: 1. cardctl ident |
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| 14:29.45 | sequethin | ok that says "Socket 0" and gives some product info, the manfid, and "function: 4 (fixed disk)" |
| 14:29.51 | hrw|work | ok |
| 14:29.59 | hrw|work | 2. mount /media/cf |
| 14:30.04 | hrw|work | 3. logread|tail |
| 14:30.20 | hrw|work | if it is ext2 card then remove "user" from fstab line |
| 14:30.25 | Chet | Hi... Anyone willing to help with some 3.5.3 issues on an 6000L? |
| 14:31.33 | sequethin | eek the log says Buffer I/O error, drive not ready for command, and unable to read partition table |
| 14:31.43 | sequethin | guess the card is the issue? |
| 14:32.06 | hrw|work | sequethin: can you read card in other reader? |
| 14:32.19 | sequethin | it was in a digital camera a moment ago, working fine |
| 14:32.44 | sequethin | this sucks cuz i cant read my sd card either |
| 14:33.03 | hrw|work | reboot Z |
| 14:33.10 | lardman | does it have a partition, or has it been formatted without one (or is that just an old-wives tale?)? |
| 14:33.24 | sequethin | lardman: not sure, it was just a card i found in this digital camera |
| 14:34.25 | sequethin | im rebooting it now |
| 14:34.37 | Chet | does anybody know how I can generate Control-C etc with OZ on my 6000L :) |
| 14:34.56 | XorA | Chet: try Fn X |
| 14:35.01 | Chet | The Shift-Fn-key stuff doesn't seem to work |
| 14:35.44 | Chet | XorA: yeah that doesn't seem to do much |
| 14:35.49 | XorA | Chet: I mean Fn C or whatever is marked as Copy |
| 14:35.59 | Chet | yeah i know. |
| 14:36.18 | XorA | Chet: 6000 must have a naff keymap then, opie or gpe? |
| 14:36.26 | Chet | opie |
| 14:36.38 | Chet | i've been trying to find out how to view/edit the keymap in opie |
| 14:36.39 | XorA | Chet: virtual keyboard should work |
| 14:37.09 | Chet | yeah it does. thanks |
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| 14:37.33 | hrw|work | Chet: opie-zkbapplet |
| 14:37.38 | Chet | ahh |
| 14:38.02 | Chet | (new to opie/handhelds; long experienced in linux) |
| 14:39.53 | sequethin | well after my reboot the same thing is happening... i guess i'll have to live with things the way they are for now |
| 14:40.20 | Chet | another easyy one... how much/which dirs of the old SharpROM /home and so on can I delete |
| 14:40.26 | Chet | can't seem to find any info on that anywhere |
| 14:41.03 | Chet | (and perhaps more importantly, the root partition) |
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| 14:42.57 | lardman | Chet: what do you have there? |
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| 14:43.30 | lardman | I'm not running Opie atm, but I think you shuold just have a root dir under /home |
| 14:43.43 | lardman | so you can remove the opt symlink (someone correct me if I'm wrong here) |
| 14:43.56 | lardman | though that might be useful if you plan on installing lots of Sharp ROM apps |
| 14:44.31 | lardman | Inside root there should be: Applications, Settings, ... (um memory failing me now) |
| 14:44.49 | Chet | sec |
| 14:45.22 | Chet | my /opt is a real dir with QtPalmtop and QtPalmtop.compat in it |
| 14:45.25 | Chet | (also real) |
| 14:45.28 | Hanashi | anyone else here having trouble with WEP on their SL-6000 3.5.3? I'm getting "Set Encode" errors when I try from the console. |
| 14:45.41 | Hanashi | try to set the key, that is. |
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| 14:46.28 | alan | hi !! |
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| 14:47.19 | hrw|work | Chet: backup /home/ on card and then remove all from there and create empty /home/root/ |
| 14:47.39 | hrw|work | Hanashi: tried S:WEP-in-ascii? |
| 14:48.00 | Chet | already did backup :) will that destroy all existing settings (is ok)? if so will they be recreated as defaults |
| 14:48.24 | Hanashi | yeah, like so: "iwconfig wlan0 key s:MyKey" |
| 14:49.35 | Hanashi | I do this all the time with my laptop. Is the hostap driver supposed to load? It seems to be using the prism driver instead. |
| 14:50.04 | Hanashi | this is my first time trying OpenZaurus, and it looks promising if I could just get the wireless going. |
| 14:50.19 | hrw|work | Hanashi: sl6k has wlan-ng driver not hostap |
| 14:50.36 | lardman | Chet: /opt should be a real dir |
| 14:50.44 | Hanashi | ah! |
| 14:50.57 | Hanashi | that's why. You can't use iwconfig to set the key in wlan-ng |
| 14:51.10 | Hanashi | you have to use iwpriv, I think. |
| 14:51.17 | Chet | ok.. since I went to OZ yesterday, I installed a couple of things (Opera 7.55, some applets). I'm going to remove those properly, toast /home and make /home/root |
| 14:51.20 | Chet | sound right? |
| 14:51.32 | Hanashi | actually, that sucks 'cause I like hostap. ;-) |
| 14:51.49 | hrw|work | Hanashi: all like hostap :) |
| 14:52.06 | hrw|work | Hanashi: many larts goes to sharp for placing wifi on usb bus in 6k |
| 14:56.20 | Chet | took the plunge |
| 14:56.55 | Hanashi | hrw|work: are you saying that's good or bad? |
| 14:57.21 | Chet | When during the install process do the two partitions get made..? |
| 14:57.29 | hrw|work | Hanashi: bad |
| 14:57.37 | Hanashi | ok, that's what I thought. |
| 14:58.06 | hrw|work | Hanashi: usbctl tool is binary only |
| 14:58.21 | hrw|work | driver lack some features which hostap have etc |
| 14:59.17 | Hanashi | yeah |
| 15:06.43 | Hanashi | hm. I guess I'm still doing this wrong. Anyone know the exact magic to make WEP for SL-6000 work? |
| 15:07.40 | hrw|work | looked into /etc/network/interfaces before? |
| 15:08.30 | Hanashi | just edit the file, you mean? |
| 15:08.56 | Chet | is there anything I can do about the wlan0 device disappearing after resume from suspend? |
| 15:09.02 | hrw|work | no - I dont know how to give wep and guessing |
| 15:09.26 | Chet | if there is, i'm pretty much able to classify this as "usable" :) |
| 15:09.37 | Hanashi | hrw|work: actually, the settings are already in there from when I used the GUI |
| 15:09.57 | hrw|work | Hanashi: dont use gui to configure wifi on sl6k... |
| 15:10.33 | Hanashi | yeah, I eventually read that. |
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| 15:23.22 | Hanashi | I'm halfway there. It seems the dhcp server is getting my dhcp requests now. |
| 15:28.17 | Hanashi | now it works when the system first boots, and disappears when it comes back from standby. I guess this is what you were talking about, Chet. |
| 15:49.42 | lardman | Was there a fix for the lines on the 6000 display? |
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| 16:08.34 | lardman | anyone here with gpe tried beepmp (beep media player)? |
| 16:09.05 | Rupert-Giles | m |
| 16:09.06 | Rupert-Giles | me |
| 16:09.08 | Rupert-Giles | ages ago |
| 16:11.30 | lardman | did it display correctly? |
| 16:11.50 | Rupert-Giles | oo not on a zaurus sorry |
| 16:11.51 | Rupert-Giles | heh |
| 16:12.10 | lardman | ah, ok, no worries |
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| 16:42.38 | Hanashi | Chet, that network problem you mentioned earlier about it going away after you go to standby... are you on an SL-6000? |
| 16:45.03 | Chet | yes |
| 16:45.13 | Chet | i posted a q about it with some details |
| 16:45.15 | Chet | sec. |
| 16:45.51 | Chet | http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=12067 I replied to the original post |
| 16:47.02 | Hanashi | the usb_ohci_tc6393 is getting hosed. |
| 16:48.13 | Hanashi | If you rmmod prism2_usb, p80211 and usb_ohci_tc6393 before you go to sleep, you can use the interface again when you wake up (after you modprobe usb_ohci_tc6393, that is) |
| 16:48.27 | Hanashi | I'm looking into how to automate this or something right now. |
| 16:52.40 | Chet | ok, cool. I didn't try unloading the usb_ohci* |
| 16:53.08 | Chet | where's a good place to go read to learn how suspend/resume works? is it just part of normal apm, or is it OZ specific? |
| 16:53.53 | Hanashi | I don't know much about it myself. I'm trying to find out now if there's a script I can trigger or something. |
| 16:54.27 | Chet | k. if I wasn't at work now, I'd help in the search :) |
| 16:54.31 | Chet | thanks |
| 16:54.51 | Hanashi | np. I'll let you know if I find anything. |
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| 18:09.26 | \phil\work | any stories about OZ on the SL-6000 ? |
| 18:09.47 | \phil\work | or any stories about the SL-6000 at all? |
| 18:10.01 | Hanashi | I just installed the latest on my sl-6000 today. |
| 18:15.02 | Hanashi | I had a devil of the time with the wireless. Still working on it, in fact. |
| 18:15.19 | Hanashi | But I've never used OZ before, so some of it may be my own ignorance. |
| 18:15.27 | \phil\work | hurm |
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| 18:19.10 | Hanashi | Ok, Chet, I have bad news for you. |
| 18:19.33 | Hanashi | I've been screwing around with this, and so far can't get the problem to happen anymore, even though I *think* I've backed out all my changes. |
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| 18:34.00 | Hanashi | ok, I think I have the answer. Chet, msg me an email address and I can send you the file + instructions you need to test whether my fix also fixes your problem. |
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| 18:45.24 | alan | hi everone. |
| 18:46.53 | alan | gpe-conf screen and gpe-conf sleep segfault on my 750 oz 3.5.3 gpe with kernel 2.4.18 |
| 18:47.27 | alan | it it news or does everyone know this as a bug ? |
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| 19:04.49 | Chet | Hanashi: that is bad news :) |
| 19:05.03 | Chet | Hanashi: then good news |
| 19:05.05 | Chet | i need to read faster |
| 19:05.06 | Chet | sec |
| 19:05.33 | Chet | Hanashi: i can test when i get home tonight.. |
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| 19:06.42 | Chet | Hanashi: mine was a stock SharpROM 6000L until yesterday :) so i'm probably poretty close to clean |
| 19:06.51 | Chet | esp after I nuked /home/* earlier today |
| 19:07.06 | Hanashi | mine was stock as well. I'm a < 1 day OZ user. ;-) |
| 19:07.31 | Hanashi | I'm finding this one a little unstable, but it looks a lot more promising than the Sharp ROM. |
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| 19:27.15 | Hanashi | anyone know how to create an icon in the opie desktop to launch an app? |
| 19:27.36 | Chet | Hanashi: I was trying to use the "tabmanager" |
| 19:27.49 | Chet | but it never worked for me.. it always erased my executable string |
| 19:27.57 | Chet | and I couldn't find out where the settings were stored (yet) |
| 19:28.03 | Hanashi | hm. |
| 19:46.50 | alan | yaargh... we definially need filters in the package manager. Something like what is used in mandrake is great : packages are sorted either by alphebetical order or by categories (Data base, Office, Configuration, Development, Editors, Internet, etc...). 5 346 glib packages are enoughwhen you try to explore what is availiable... |
| 20:16.39 | Hanashi | anyone here got the email app to work with SIMAP? |
| 20:25.56 | hrw|home | alan: opie-packagemanager has filters |
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| 20:34.53 | alan | hrw|home: i hope it will come to gpe, otherwise i should think going to opie... ^^ |
| 20:35.54 | alan | does abiword (or any GOOD word processor) run on opie ? |
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| 20:49.51 | guylhem1 | alan : no. the gui needs to be updated to use qt |
| 20:49.53 | guylhem1 | lot of work |
| 20:52.53 | Radiance | guys, is opie-record working in 3.5.3 ? (i mean without that it stops after X seconds of recording) |
| 20:56.14 | alan | thanks guylhem1 ! good night everyone |
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| 21:48.03 | emcat | hi |
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| 23:35.50 | aquarius | The python-pygame package doesn't seem to work; "import pygame" in python says "ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pygame/base.so: undefined symbol: initQCop". What might be wrong? |
| 23:48.46 | aquarius | mithro's given me some pointers; I need to remove a patch that was applied to pygame. Is there any way I can do that without setting up a cross-compiling toolchain? |
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| 23:54.52 | overflowUK | any decent messenger front ends apart from gaim for opie? |
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| 23:56.00 | overflowUK | guess |
| 23:56.03 | overflowUK | not |