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| 00:30.13 | imk | is there a way to disable the shut down thing when you hold the right arrow down or the third circle button? |
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| 00:42.10 | Chet | Hanashi: yt? |
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| 00:42.40 | Chet | I tried your apm script and it's even got the power to restore the wlan0 connection after it "breaks" |
| 00:44.21 | Chet | the only trick is the apm doesn't seem to get triggered if i use the power button.. I need to pick suspend from the menu |
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| 00:56.43 | that_weasel | anyone happen to know what the Standard zaurus split is for the 860? |
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| 02:37.18 | JohnAK | Howdy folks. |
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| 02:40.00 | Zero_Chaos | can anyone here give me (or point me to) a howto for opie-remote? |
| 02:44.55 | JohnAK | I've never tried it. |
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| 05:43.22 | JohnAK | Goodnight. |
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| 08:34.40 | alan | hi ! |
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| 08:53.39 | karbak | Hello - I'm having something of a problem flashing 3.5.3 on to a 5500. |
| 08:54.16 | karbak | (first time I'm doing it) following the C+D+reset instructions doesn't make the lights blink at all. |
| 08:54.41 | karbak | I've doubled checked that hte files are named correctly, the md5sums match, and that the CF card is FAT16 formatted. |
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| 10:40.44 | alan | hi ! |
| 10:41.16 | alan | i often have this error message in dmesg : |
| 10:41.17 | alan | usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using address 2 |
| 10:41.17 | alan | usb 2-2: device not accepting address 2, error -71 |
| 10:41.17 | alan | usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using address 3 |
| 10:41.17 | alan | usb 2-2: device not accepting address 3, error -71 |
| 10:41.34 | hrw|work | what device? |
| 10:41.48 | alan | c750 |
| 10:42.07 | hrw|work | 2.4.18? |
| 10:42.18 | alan | yep |
| 10:44.50 | alan | a reboot of the Z usually solves the pb |
| 10:45.00 | hrw|work | oz 3.5.3? |
| 10:45.23 | alan | yes ! |
| 10:45.42 | alan | hrw|work: do you read in mind ? ^^ |
| 10:45.50 | hrw|work | I want clear infos |
| 10:46.11 | alan | you seem to know every answer ^^ |
| 10:46.21 | hrw|work | do you have scripts in /etc/apm.d/resume/ dir? |
| 10:47.18 | alan | 20usbnet |
| 10:47.25 | alan | 30ifupdown |
| 10:47.38 | alan | 50gpe-bluetooth |
| 10:47.40 | hrw|work | ok |
| 10:47.49 | hrw|work | that 20usbnet should do work... |
| 10:48.04 | hrw|work | can you run it? |
| 10:48.18 | alan | what ? the script ? |
| 10:48.33 | hrw|work | yes |
| 10:48.54 | alan | well, for now, the usbd0 is up, i do not have curently the pb... |
| 10:49.33 | alan | do you want me to launch the script next time it happens ? |
| 10:50.16 | hrw|work | now usbd0 working for you? |
| 10:50.23 | alan | ho ! bye the way, when i reboot the z, it forgets the dns configuration |
| 10:50.26 | alan | hrw|work: yes |
| 10:50.28 | hrw|work | suspend/resume and tell does it work |
| 10:50.32 | alan | oki |
| 10:51.14 | alan | no, you are right, it doesn't |
| 10:51.42 | hrw|work | does not work after resume? |
| 10:52.52 | lardman | start_net.sh |
| 10:53.04 | alan | nop... and launching the script (sh /etc/apm/resume.d/20usbnet) doesn't work |
| 10:53.07 | lardman | rmmod the net_fd related modules |
| 10:53.19 | lardman | Then insmod them again |
| 10:53.36 | alan | lardman: where is start-net.sh ? |
| 10:53.49 | lardman | I'll try to find an URL hang on a tick |
| 10:54.02 | alan | oki ! thanks |
| 10:54.33 | hrw|work | lardman: 20usbnet have to do the same |
| 10:54.55 | hrw|work | alan: what you have in /etc/default/usbdmodule file? |
| 10:55.22 | alan | arf... i'm rebooting... hold a minute |
| 10:55.59 | lardman | For reference, start_net.sh: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=9765&hl=start_net\.sh&st=0 |
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| 10:56.09 | alan | thanks lardman |
| 10:56.34 | lardman | I agree though hrw, this shouldn't be needed |
| 10:57.12 | hrw|work | lardman: as I was saying /etc/apmd/scripts/usbnet is nearly same as your version but also take care of sa1100_bi/pxa_bi names |
| 10:57.28 | lardman | ah, that's good |
| 10:57.43 | lardman | I'll have a look at it and see whether I can get it to work then |
| 10:58.28 | hrw|work | lardman: in /etc/default/usbdmodule is a line "usdmodule=sa1100_bi" (or pxa_bi) |
| 10:58.48 | hrw|work | lardman: /etc/apmd/scripts/usbnet source that and modprobe -r $usbdmodule;modprobe $usbdmodule |
| 10:59.08 | alan | usbdmodule=pxa_bi |
| 10:59.13 | lardman | it tries to rmmod usb-eth though |
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| 10:59.28 | hrw|work | lardman: universal script written by ipaq owners |
| 10:59.32 | lardman | and sa1100usb_core |
| 10:59.37 | lardman | neither of which exist |
| 10:59.39 | hrw|work | lardman: feel free to send aptches |
| 10:59.42 | hrw|work | patches |
| 10:59.54 | lardman | ok |
| 11:01.14 | lardman | the other question is whether rmmoding pxa_bi will actually do what we want |
| 11:01.28 | lardman | I think it will fail, as net_fd is still loaded |
| 11:01.50 | lardman | also, will insmod'ing pxa_bi automatically load net_fd? |
| 11:02.01 | lardman | I'll take a look at it this evening |
| 11:02.47 | lardman | hrw|work: should the script stay generic? |
| 11:03.39 | hrw|work | lardman: net_fd is auto on collie - maybe need fix on pxa |
| 11:03.50 | hrw|work | lardman: rather yes I think |
| 11:04.05 | lardman | hrw|work: where does one alter the auto'ness? |
| 11:04.56 | hrw|work | lardman: module_conf_sa1100_bi = "below sa1100_bi net_fd usbdcore " |
| 11:05.03 | hrw|work | in linux/openzaurus-sa_*.bb |
| 11:05.23 | hrw|work | so for pxa it will be: module_conf_pxa_bi = "below pxa_bi net_fd usbdcore " |
| 11:05.34 | hrw|work | but that collide with storage_fd |
| 11:06.25 | alan | while i'm here, i also segfault when i laucn gpe-conf sleep and gpe-conf screen, it is not related but i will soon have to go. |
| 11:06.39 | lardman | I don't have a working build machine atm so that will have to wait - I'll take a look at the scripts though |
| 11:07.31 | lardman | alan: yep me too |
| 11:08.09 | hrw|work | lardman: you can add that into modules.conf to test |
| 11:08.22 | lardman | hrw|work: ok |
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| 11:21.37 | lardman | where can I get a usb comms and charging cable from? |
| 11:22.40 | hrw|work | brando |
| 11:22.57 | lardman | they're in HK? |
| 11:23.05 | alan | take a look at the pdaxrom website sponsors |
| 11:23.15 | hrw|work | lardman: yes |
| 11:23.26 | lardman | hrw|work: thx |
| 11:23.30 | lardman | alan: will do |
| 11:23.36 | hrw|work | lardman: http://www.rawo.pl/ have them also |
| 11:23.52 | hrw|work | 80 pln for sync/charge + usb power supply |
| 11:24.51 | alan | is there a good word processing tool under oz opie version ? |
| 11:25.19 | alan | i'm not good enough to play with gpe... |
| 11:25.43 | alan | but i really need abiword, or something as powerfull |
| 11:26.00 | alan | (i. e. anything but hancom word...) |
| 11:27.23 | lardman | abiword should work under GPE |
| 11:27.29 | alan | yes, it does |
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| 11:27.54 | lardman | sorry, I missed the opie bit |
| 11:28.46 | alan | but so many other things don't... pdaxrom does lots of things i like, but it is not as user friendly as oz... i'd like the best of the two worlds ^^ |
| 11:29.05 | lardman | what doesn't work under GPE? |
| 11:29.27 | alan | i can't configure my backlight, for exemple |
| 11:29.38 | alan | snes9x does'nt work |
| 11:29.44 | lardman | ah, I'd not noticed |
| 11:30.00 | alan | i can't play my videos fullscreen |
| 11:30.10 | lardman | well fixing the bl would be useful, is there any info on what's wrong with it |
| 11:30.11 | lardman | ? |
| 11:30.46 | alan | i don't know, when i launch gpe-conf screen or gpe-conf sleep, it segfaults |
| 11:31.29 | alan | there may be a configuration file, but using a gui is easier ! |
| 11:31.42 | hrw|work | lardman: bl under gpe with kernel 2.6? |
| 11:31.53 | lardman | I don't know what the problem is, but it would be good to get it fixed |
| 11:32.01 | alan | kernel 2.4.18, here... |
| 11:32.07 | lardman | likewise |
| 11:32.13 | alan | oki ^^ |
| 11:32.30 | hrw|work | afaik zauruses have backlight wo and ipaq has rw |
| 11:32.53 | hrw|work | and gpe-backlight tries to read, got 0 all times |
| 11:33.17 | lardman | so what's the /dev entry called? |
| 11:33.32 | hrw|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:34.12 | lardman | more fl produces nothing |
| 11:37.09 | alan | i would also like to use xrandr to switch the resolution to 320*240, in order to play smoothly my xvid files, but it doesn't work. I hope you don't feel ad, with what i say... I really thank the oz developpers, they do a very good job, especially when you think it is mostly on their spare time, and oz is really a good rom !! |
| 11:37.49 | alan | my english is to poor to explain exactly what i feel.... |
| 11:40.15 | lardman | Your English seems ok to me |
| 11:40.26 | alan | thanks ^^ |
| 11:40.29 | lardman | Don't worry - I'd not even realised that screen & sleep didn't work |
| 11:40.46 | lardman | I've just grabbed the source, I'll have a look at it and see what I can think of |
| 11:41.29 | alan | thanks ! |
| 11:42.38 | hrw|work | alan: there is something like 'internet english' |
| 11:42.56 | hrw|work | and for me (non native english) your english is ok |
| 11:43.59 | alan | thanks hrw|work, i'm doing my best.I'm not a developper at all, so reporting bugs is the only thing i can do to help the community. |
| 11:44.04 | XorA | alan: someone needs to port the pdaXrom patches for xrandr to OE |
| 11:44.17 | alan | maybe i should list everything i fond that don't work. |
| 11:44.48 | alan | XorA: i hope it will be soon done |
| 11:45.35 | XorA | alan: there are more important X problems in the queue |
| 11:45.48 | alan | yes, i'm afraid. |
| 11:46.01 | hrw|work | alan: you can also work on docs |
| 11:48.30 | alan | yes, why not. that is a good idea. I just need some more experience on oz, but in a few weeks... i would be better at translation to french, but so few peopple have a Z in france, i'm not sure it woul be useful. |
| 11:49.22 | hrw|work | alan: here in Poland Zauruses are not as much popular but I got many mails from users with misc questions |
| 11:51.22 | alan | wow, that is cool... i should go and dig in this direction, so. First, i get use to oe, then i'll try to work on docs. oki, that sounds rights to me ^^ |
| 11:51.53 | alan | mouargh, i have to go. |
| 11:51.54 | alan | bye |
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| 12:20.45 | Chet | hrw|work: hanasi and I put together an apm script to let the 6000L wlan0 suspend and resume properly |
| 12:21.25 | Chet | well he wrote it and I tested it and make an ipkg out of it |
| 12:21.43 | hrw|work | can you send it to oz-devel or oe ml? |
| 12:21.59 | Chet | yes.. i'll go subscribe |
| 12:23.39 | Chet | if i can find the lists :) |
| 12:24.09 | Chet | got 'em |
| 12:27.20 | Chet | hrw|work: do you know why the apm scripts don't run if i suspend with the power button? |
| 12:27.41 | hrw|work | no |
| 12:27.59 | Chet | ok. any hints on where to start looking into it? |
| 12:28.21 | XorA | Chet: GPE? |
| 12:28.25 | Chet | opie |
| 12:31.44 | Chet | XorA: the normal suspend on the menu works fine |
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| 12:32.13 | Hanashi | Chet, on my Z the scripts also fix suspend/resume with the power button. Do they not on yours? |
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| 12:32.23 | Hanashi | script, that is. singular. |
| 12:32.43 | lardman | I noticed that with 2.6.11 on Opie - one of my scripts didn't get called (can't remember whether it was suspend or resume - I think is was suspend though) |
| 12:32.49 | Chet | when i hit the power button, it doesn't seem to run the scripts |
| 12:32.56 | Chet | it doesn't delay a couple of seconds |
| 12:33.05 | Chet | (i.e. no chance to run apm --suspend) |
| 12:34.18 | Hanashi | I'm not really sure about that, but I can think of an easy way to check it. |
| 12:35.47 | Chet | got a logging script in there now |
| 12:35.49 | Chet | sec |
| 12:36.19 | Hanashi | yeah, that's what I was going to do. "echo `date` >> /tmp/somefile" or whatever at the top of the /etc/apm/apmd_proxy script |
| 12:36.51 | Chet | i just put it in event.d at the moment. it definitely didn't run that |
| 12:37.12 | Chet | when i use the pwoer button it goes off immediately and also comes back with no delay |
| 12:37.19 | Chet | normal suspend takes it a few seconds both ways |
| 12:37.31 | Hanashi | on another note... anyone ever got the mail application to work with IMAP in "Always, connect to secure port" mode? I'm just getting nothing but error messages that are too long to fit on the status bar. |
| 12:38.11 | Hanashi | I don't know if you can go by that, Chet. It could turn off the display immediately and still be processing the rest of the suspension. |
| 12:39.24 | lardman | I don't think they are run - I wrote a power logging script to see if I could help RP with tracking down battery drain with CF cards in with the 2.6.11 kernel |
| 12:39.42 | lardman | I wanted to write the time and apm status at resume & suspend |
| 12:39.52 | lardman | Only resume results were written |
| 12:40.10 | Hanashi | so it called apm on resume but not on suspend? |
| 12:40.12 | Hanashi | That's weird. |
| 12:40.53 | lardman | I didn't get a chance to look into it further as the 3.5.3 ROM was released and I decided to go for GPE (2.4.18 kernel) |
| 12:41.01 | Chet | definitely not run |
| 12:41.10 | Chet | neither suspend or resume |
| 12:41.18 | Chet | if i use the power to shut off |
| 12:41.30 | Chet | (for me) |
| 12:41.51 | Hanashi | If it's not being run, then logically I should be having the same problem I was having before I put the script in place. But I don't. |
| 12:42.02 | Hanashi | This is definately something that needs further investigation. |
| 12:42.30 | Chet | hmmm |
| 12:42.31 | lardman | what kernel are you guys running? |
| 12:42.57 | Chet | 2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix |
| 12:43.01 | Hanashi | whatever comes on the newest opie image for sl-6000. |
| 12:43.08 | Hanashi | don't have my Z here at the moment. |
| 12:43.26 | lardman | yep, I was just wondering whether it was a 2.6.x kernel |
| 12:43.38 | Chet | Hanashi: I put the date logging at the top of ampd_proxy and got nothing |
| 12:44.15 | lardman | where is that script? |
| 12:44.34 | lardman | etc/apm/scripts.d/ ? |
| 12:44.46 | Hanashi | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:45.56 | lardman | I don't have anything in there |
| 12:46.23 | Hanashi | the real underlying problem seems to be that the usb_ohci_* driver usually hangs on suspend/resume. My script simply tries to unload/reload that automatically. But maybe the driver could just somehow be fixed. Probably more stable than my approach. |
| 12:46.32 | Hanashi | yeah, I wrote one, lardman. |
| 12:46.53 | Hanashi | Actually, you should have 1 file. I forget the exact name, but there's a 01* file in there. |
| 12:46.57 | lardman | I'd be tempted to put it in /etc/apm/scripts.d, and symlink from suspend.d and resume.d |
| 12:47.06 | lardman | no, nothing in there |
| 12:47.19 | lardman | could be specific to your machine, I'm running a 750 |
| 12:47.21 | Hanashi | either way. event.d is supposed to be called for any of those events as well. |
| 12:47.31 | Hanashi | oh, yeah. that's why you don't have it. |
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| 12:48.53 | Chet | the symlink is what i did in the ipkg btw |
| 12:52.25 | Chet | how do I tell the opie clock which TZ it should display in.. I set the TZ with the opie gui thing, but it still shows GMT/UTC |
| 12:52.58 | lardman | I seem to remember reading something about a bug, needing to install more timezones or something |
| 12:53.21 | lardman | Not a problem for me living in the centre of the world (wrt longitude) |
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| 13:37.24 | hrw|work | all: OOO newsletters are available on openzaurus.org |
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| 17:32.12 | that_weasel | anyone around that can help me with getting my NVRAM partitioned properly for OZ? |
| 18:10.42 | XorA|gone | that_weasel: if you on a C7x0 device, do a NAND restore of sharp rom |
| 18:10.49 | XorA|gone | that_weasel: thats the easiest way |
| 18:10.53 | *** topic/#openzaurus by CoreDump|home -> OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | developer discussion in #oe | http://openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | OZ 3.5.3 -> http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/ | Report OZ bugs at http://bugs.openembedded.org/ l/p: guest/guest |
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| 18:11.14 | CoreDump|home | well, someone should update the topic :) |
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| 21:15.52 | Chet | if the opie gui package manager in 3.5.3 known to not make links properly if I install, say, on sd |
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| 21:16.40 | Chet | if/is |
| 21:18.06 | lardman | I note that on a C750 running GPE w/ 2.4.18 kernel, the apm resume & suspend scripts are not run when you press the on/off button |
| 21:18.14 | lardman | but are run if you use 'apm -s' |
| 21:23.43 | lardman | hrw|gone_: You were right about the script |
| 21:23.58 | lardman | hrw|gone_: but you need to call it with resume as an argument |
| 21:24.13 | lardman | hrw|gone_: then it works fine (like start_net.sh) |
| 21:25.21 | Chet | lardman: I have the same thing on my 6000 |
| 21:25.46 | lardman | Chet: yep, that's why I tested it - seeing your conversation this arvo |
| 21:25.52 | Chet | gotcha |
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| 21:27.17 | tanq | hey for the SL-5600 there is a minor step that should be changed for the update documentation |
| 21:27.39 | tanq | on step 7 it is not truly simultaneously press the "Cancel" and "OK" buttons |
| 21:28.10 | tanq | you actually have to press and hold the OK button before pressing the on/off button and hold them together until the sharp menu comes up |
| 21:28.50 | tanq | if you press the on/off(cancel) and then press ok and hold them together it will boot into the last flashed rom |
| 21:29.36 | lardman | Can someone fix this? I can't remember my password (left it at work) |
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| 21:32.56 | lardman | Ok, I'll sort it tomorrow |
| 21:33.09 | lardman | Ok, I'll sort it tomorrow |
| 21:35.51 | lardman | test |
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