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| 00:08.31 | Chet | can someone please point me at something that can help me understand how to edit my opie keymap? :) |
| 00:09.18 | Chet | my searching has been fruitless |
| 00:09.51 | Chet | someone pointed me to an applet that lets me switch keymaps, but I still don't know how to write them |
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| 00:33.08 | karbak | Hello, is there a list of known CF cards which cause trouble while flashing ROMs ? |
| 00:33.30 | karbak | I simply cannot get my 5500 to flash with a Lexar 128Mb card. |
| 00:36.08 | Chet | You checked filenames, VFAT, etc |
| 00:36.23 | karbak | Chet: Yes, filenames, md5sums everything. |
| 00:36.35 | karbak | The card was initially formatted FAT32, I changed that to FAT16 as well. |
| 00:36.50 | karbak | When I do C+D+reset, the power light simply goes out and nothing happens. |
| 00:37.07 | karbak | Except that I lose all data, and boot back in to the default ROM of course. |
| 00:37.14 | Chet | Have you ever seen the maint menu? |
| 00:37.36 | karbak | Chet: No ... on a 5500 ? |
| 00:37.36 | Chet | (I only have a 6000, so your may be different) |
| 00:37.47 | karbak | No .. don't think this has one. |
| 00:37.51 | Chet | ok |
| 00:37.54 | Chet | sec |
| 00:38.44 | Chet | Are you holding C+D down first, then hitting reset? |
| 00:38.52 | karbak | Yes. |
| 00:38.54 | Chet | that's what I had to do on my 6000 (well, diff keys) |
| 00:39.07 | karbak | C+D - then reset with the stylus tip. |
| 00:39.29 | Chet | Hmm.. you'll probably have o wait for someone who knows that model |
| 00:39.40 | karbak | Right - thanks for trying anyway. |
| 00:39.44 | Chet | sure |
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| 03:03.00 | tanq | has anyone tried using zaurus-debian with the oz bootstrap? |
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| 03:48.58 | Zero_Chaos | Can anyone tell me, if opie-wirelessapplet going to be added to the 3.5.3 feed? I cannot seem to find it. |
| 03:52.22 | CoreDump|afk | Zero_Chaos: that's a good thing...The darn applet was the reason No.1 for suspend/resume problems and nobody cared to look into it. So it was removed from the builds. |
| 03:53.05 | Zero_Chaos | that sucks, I never had any problems :-) I loved that applet.... |
| 03:53.12 | Zero_Chaos | oh well. |
| 03:53.55 | CoreDump|afk | Zero_Chaos: hold on, I'll build it for you. No guarantes that it'll work though |
| 03:53.58 | tanq | is there a trick to the package manager still? |
| 03:55.08 | CoreDump|afk | http://hentges.net/tmp/opie-wirelessapplet_1.2.0-r0_arm.ipk |
| 03:55.47 | Piranha- | wpa isnt in openzaurus yet is it |
| 03:56.04 | CoreDump|afk | it is, look for wpa-supplicant. |
| 03:57.35 | Zero_Chaos | CoreDump|afk: any idea if it's safe? or at least no worse than the last applet? |
| 03:58.29 | CoreDump|afk | Zero_Chaos: it's based on a snpashot from 2 days ago. I've no idea wether i'll work at all since some things have changed since the release of 3.5.3 |
| 03:58.49 | CoreDump|afk | it's worth a try in any case |
| 03:59.16 | Zero_Chaos | LoL. Is there any current intent on working on that applet in the near future? or should I test my luck and try the snapshot? |
| 03:59.36 | Zero_Chaos | HAPPY EARTH DAY |
| 04:00.17 | CoreDump|afk | noone has looked into it for almost a year AFAIK |
| 04:01.10 | Zero_Chaos | LoL, I admit, it doesn't really do much, but it is just so comforting to see in the tray. Thanks for the download CoreDump. |
| 04:01.23 | CoreDump|afk | you're welcome :) |
| 04:03.38 | tanq | that was weird.. i just got the GPE screen and then the startup messages started overwriting it.. |
| 04:04.19 | CoreDump|afk | heh that's normal. The splashscreen is just a hack "hiding" the fb |
| 04:04.25 | Zero_Chaos | tanq: not a bug, that is the kernel messages overwrite feature in GPE |
| 04:04.59 | tanq | i'd rather the fb be up and then see the splash |
| 04:04.59 | Zero_Chaos | Alright, time for bed, thanks again CoreDump |
| 04:05.09 | CoreDump|afk | np, n8 Zero_Chaos |
| 04:05.28 | tanq | man this package manager is starting to annoy me.. it comes up ueber slow... i know this isnt normal behavior for it. |
| 04:05.47 | CoreDump|afk | the GPE GUI package manager is broken IIRC |
| 04:08.01 | tanq | we'll see.. i'm trying to install nano. which is simple enough.. |
| 04:09.30 | tanq | CoreDump|afk: do you use opie or gpe |
| 04:09.38 | CoreDump|afk | opie |
| 04:09.55 | CoreDump|afk | you may have more luck with the commandline ipkg :) Sorry, got to go |
| 04:10.16 | tanq | yeah.. i'm getting to lazy to use ipkg.. |
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| 04:30.41 | tanq | does the package manager miss something for xmms? i have never had it work.. |
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| 05:07.48 | tanq | so what mediaplayer can be installed via packagemanager and work in opie.. |
| 05:08.01 | tanq | i tried opie mediaplayer, xmms, and sidplayer |
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| 06:19.39 | tanq | anyone around |
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| 07:55.49 | hrw|work | hi |
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| 09:05.15 | lardman | tanq: I've altered the 5600 page on oz.org. Have a look and see if it makes sense. |
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| 09:38.17 | hrw|work | lardman: how do you think - author of rboot will register on oz.org and write 'rboot howto' or not? |
| 09:42.05 | lardman|away | hrw|work: I'm sure he could be presuaded, or even write it outside and let one of us put it up |
| 09:42.12 | lardman|away | bb in a little while |
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| 12:04.45 | dballester | hi to all |
| 12:10.21 | dballester | i'm having 'problems?' with my collie and oz 3.5.3. Mic doesn't work or at least that's the impression |
| 12:11.43 | hrw|work | define not work |
| 12:15.21 | dballester | hrw|work: well, i can get no references in any way to the mic, i can't know if it's activated, deactivated... no way to try nothing |
| 12:16.06 | dballester | hrw|work: I can't know if the problem is Oz based or gpe based, but in anyway, no tools to make test with device |
| 12:16.37 | dballester | i'm thinking in something like alsamixer, under command line |
| 12:17.04 | dballester | or at least some report tool, something under proc... well i'm not a guru |
| 12:17.11 | hrw|work | dballester: opie-record try |
| 12:17.18 | hrw|work | I never used mic with zaurus |
| 12:17.56 | dballester | it's possible to know something about sound device under kernel ( modinfo ? ) |
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| 13:05.20 | tanq | lardman|lunch: you have a little backwards I add a response to the page last night #4 |
| 13:05.35 | tanq | man it looks like i can't speak english.. heh.. |
| 13:06.19 | tanq | what do i have to do to get opie mediaplayer to work.... |
| 13:06.37 | tanq | i installed via package manager but now wheni try to play an mp3 it goes crazy |
| 13:06.50 | tanq | like its erroring out and restarting infinitely |
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| 14:18.49 | tanq | man i can't get one freakin mediaplayer to work on the sl5600 in 3.5.3 or 3.5.2 |
| 14:19.54 | lardman|lunch | tanq: GPE or Opie? |
| 14:20.19 | hrw|work | I just tested how rammstein sounds on headphones using c760/oz353 |
| 14:21.02 | XorA | hrw|work: thats gotta sound nasty ;-) |
| 14:21.14 | hrw|work | XorA: rammstein of c760? |
| 14:21.30 | XorA | hrw|work: both in combo :-) |
| 14:21.33 | hrw|work | ;)) |
| 14:21.46 | XorA | I found mp3 Rammstein doesnt work well due to white noise |
| 14:21.52 | tanq | lardman: Opie and GPE |
| 14:22.11 | tanq | actually just opie.. |
| 14:22.19 | hrw|work | tanq: opie-mediaplayer2, xmms-embedded, opie-mediaplayer1 should all work |
| 14:22.27 | tanq | i didnt try gpe because of laziness and the package manager was not working.. |
| 14:22.44 | tanq | opie mp2 just shows the skin and stops.. |
| 14:23.04 | tanq | i thought it might have been the mp3 so i tried a bunch more and nothing.. |
| 14:23.23 | tanq | hrw|work: and are you speaking for collie or poodle |
| 14:23.41 | hrw|work | tanq: collie with 3.5.2 |
| 14:23.46 | tanq | i'm using poodle |
| 14:24.07 | hrw|work | on c7x0 I use opie-mediaplayer2 (with 1 mp3 song to test) |
| 14:24.26 | tanq | in xmms when i press the play button nothing happens |
| 14:24.53 | tanq | i had the same problem in 3.5.2 possible 3.5.1 |
| 14:24.54 | hrw|work | hm.. why bt is so slow? |
| 14:27.24 | lardman | tanq: I'm running GPE (GXine works well), but it looks like I'll be flashing over to Opie (for the kernel) this weekend |
| 14:28.00 | tanq | I couldnt get the package manager to work in GPE... is it broken? |
| 14:28.31 | lardman | Can one set the memory buffer amount in the ~/.xine/config file? |
| 14:28.47 | lardman | tanq: I think so, I only ever use command line anyway |
| 14:36.48 | lardman | tanq: does omp2 fail silently if you don't have libmad available? |
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| 14:43.11 | tanq | i have no idea.. |
| 14:43.44 | tanq | i thought the package manager downloaded the dependencies.. |
| 14:43.59 | tanq | i have libmad installed though.. |
| 14:46.57 | lardman | have you tried running the various apps frmo the command line to see if they'll tell you what's wrong? |
| 14:50.41 | tanq | well first it can't find libmikmod.so. i'm not sure that is a show stopper.. but when the gui starts up it gets to Settin g BOundary and right after that it says Szam vege,gyuhet a kov.\ xmms gui destroying \ crash! |
| 14:51.29 | lardman | nice, understandable error messages ;) |
| 14:53.16 | tanq | indeed |
| 14:53.24 | tanq | that was for xmms |
| 14:53.27 | lardman | not sure that libmikmod would make any difference as it plays weird file types |
| 14:53.32 | tanq | let me see what opie says |
| 14:56.01 | hrw|work | weird? amiga modules are not weird |
| 14:56.35 | lardman | ;) |
| 14:56.41 | tanq | ok i got opie working via cmd line.. |
| 14:56.54 | tanq | but the volume is really low even with it turned all the way up |
| 14:58.32 | lardman | tanq: what about the opie-volume-applet volume setting? |
| 14:58.46 | lardman | tanq: or do they control the same thing? |
| 14:59.14 | tanq | control the same thing |
| 14:59.19 | lardman | oh |
| 14:59.23 | lardman | ah |
| 14:59.40 | lardman | I thought that there was a sound problem with the latest release |
| 14:59.48 | lardman | there was a fix in the upgrades feed |
| 15:00.03 | lardman | hrw|work: that sound right, or was it just for the c7x0 machines? |
| 15:00.22 | tanq | what would i need to grab from the upgrade feed |
| 15:00.23 | tanq | s |
| 15:01.14 | hrw|work | lardman: libqte2 is not yet in upgrades (atleast not from me) |
| 15:01.58 | lardman | hrw|work: Oh right, will it be? |
| 15:02.06 | lardman | hrw|work: when you have time ;) |
| 15:02.38 | tanq | weird.. the sound is really loud now |
| 15:02.47 | tanq | i think i had to restart opie to make it louder |
| 15:02.52 | tanq | er opieplayer |
| 15:03.34 | hrw|work | lardman: have to add it into todo - was busy |
| 15:03.43 | lardman | hrw|work: cool |
| 15:05.08 | tanq | yeah. I have to restart opieplayer when changing the volume |
| 15:05.25 | tanq | its like it doesnt write or the mixer is locked when its playing |
| 15:07.45 | lardman | I'm afraid I've no idea |
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| 15:11.03 | tanq | heh.. |
| 15:11.24 | tanq | well that isn't exactly it either.. i just tried to turn my volume back up and it didnt work.. heh |
| 15:11.40 | tanq | oh well good enough to mess around with. |
| 15:11.53 | tanq | no wi gotta work on getting my videos to play.. thanks lardman |
| 15:12.15 | tanq | s/no wi/now i/ |
| 15:12.21 | lardman | np |
| 15:26.54 | tanq | what lib do i need to play mpegs via opie. |
| 15:27.10 | lardman | mplayer is prob your best bet |
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| 15:30.47 | tanq | oh duh.. |
| 15:30.59 | tanq | i guess it helps to have my wifi card in when i'm using the package manager |
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| 16:00.35 | that_weasel | tanq: that helps sometimes... |
| 16:01.24 | that_weasel | also on the list of helpful things are: Turning on the power, clicking the shortcut, and selecting various actions from the package manager.. |
| 16:01.26 | that_weasel | ;) hehe |
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| 17:02.05 | lardman | bye all |
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| 17:19.22 | broeggle | hi |
| 17:20.17 | tanq | hey |
| 17:20.25 | tanq | do you use your sd as root |
| 17:20.31 | broeggle | I#ve recently buyed an used Zaurus 5500, but I have several 'noob' problems. |
| 17:20.31 | broeggle | Are you going to help me? |
| 17:21.08 | tanq | i don't have too much time right now. i have a phone interview here in a second |
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| 17:22.02 | broeggle | ok. anyone else here not idle? |
| 17:23.27 | Noodles | I'm here. |
| 17:23.35 | Noodles | But if you're going to ask me a hard question, I'm not. |
| 17:23.57 | broeggle | hehe, I just have some basic questions |
| 17:24.35 | broeggle | 1.) how do I switch between the console and the graphical gui? |
| 17:25.42 | broeggle | I know that there is an option in the menu to switch to terminal 1 |
| 17:25.42 | broeggle | but how do I get back? |
| 17:27.25 | Noodles | What Zaurus? |
| 17:27.40 | broeggle | 5500 |
| 17:29.48 | Noodles | http://openembedded.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/OpenZaurusReleaseNotes near the bottom? |
| 17:34.26 | broeggle | thank you! |
| 17:35.09 | broeggle | 2. my zaurus seems to 'forget' the current date after a reboot. ->why and how do I fix it? |
| 17:38.31 | broeggle | 3. how do I switch between 2 applications? |
| 17:40.10 | Noodles | No idea about 2. Doesn't the taskbar at the bottom let you switch? |
| 17:40.19 | Noodles | Tap the icon of the app you want. |
| 17:43.21 | broeggle | I see only the icon ofthe current app |
| 17:44.11 | broeggle | at least if I use the vertical view |
| 17:45.29 | broeggle | isn't there something like 'alt+tab' |
| 18:00.27 | broeggle | how much time needs the battery to load? |
| 18:14.24 | broeggle | how do I establish an Wlan connection? |
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| 19:13.44 | tanq | ugh.. |
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| 19:18.12 | broeggle | @tanq: I did the following: menu->settings>Network>Wlan and typed in my settings. |
| 19:19.02 | tanq | ok what are you talking about |
| 19:19.31 | broeggle | about how I tried to setup my connection settings, in order to get an connection |
| 19:21.17 | broeggle | then I clicked on ok, |
| 19:21.17 | broeggle | ->start/stop -> start |
| 19:22.29 | broeggle | ->802.11b |
| 19:22.29 | broeggle | signal 0% |
| 19:22.29 | broeggle | noise 0% |
| 19:22.29 | broeggle | quality 0% |
| 19:22.29 | broeggle | Rate 11mbit |
| 19:23.43 | broeggle | --> the channel is switching all the time, mode is 'managed' (as it somehow don't want to use my Infrastructure setting) |
| 19:24.10 | broeggle | the AP as well as the CF-card are from D-Link |
| 19:24.58 | broeggle | are there anywhere 'error' messages logged? |
| 19:26.33 | broeggle | and another thing that is somehow strange is that in the in the AP section the MAC adress is 44:44:44:44:44:44 |
| 19:26.33 | broeggle | even if I have change the value |
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| 19:31.08 | Radiance | broeggle means no AP is detected to assoc with |
| 19:32.00 | CuCullin | hey guys.... im on my Z right now, and i cant install konq or opera. Using 3.5.3 i keep getting errors when i install through the package manager. Any ideas? |
| 19:33.16 | broeggle | but if I use 'scan you neighborhood, he finds my AP |
| 19:34.13 | Radiance | finding it is different from associating with it |
| 19:34.56 | broeggle | hmm, so what do you propose? |
| 19:35.00 | Radiance | cucullin, be specific, what errors ? did ya try on the console ? |
| 19:35.50 | Radiance | broeggle, do not use the menu to config your network |
| 19:35.54 | Radiance | do it on the console |
| 19:36.27 | broeggle | can you walkthrough me? or send me an link to an howto |
| 19:37.06 | broeggle | (p.s. I love the console ;) |
| 19:37.21 | Radiance | there is on the mailing list for the openzaurus a topic which has the steps, it was created by some dude called murray or so |
| 19:41.24 | broeggle | Can't find it ;? |
| 19:41.41 | tanq | i use the menu.. it works fine for me |
| 19:42.56 | Radiance | tanq, omg ! then you're the only one in the UNIVERSE ! :) |
| 19:43.15 | Radiance | broeggle, keep looking, you'll find |
| 19:47.10 | tanq | yeah?? i guess so.. |
| 19:47.35 | tanq | my wifi works so.. |
| 19:50.07 | broeggle | ;/ |
| 19:50.07 | broeggle | can you at least give me a hint where I can find the full mailing list archive? |
| 19:59.21 | Radiance | broeggle, /etc/network/interfaces that's the place and check openzaurus.sourceforge.net |
| 19:59.27 | Radiance | bbl |
| 20:12.46 | broeggle | I still don't find the mailing list, but I have had a look into the /etc/network/interfaces file |
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| 20:19.32 | broeggle | http://nopaste.biz/?1597 |
| 20:19.32 | broeggle | what's wrong with this? |
| 20:23.12 | broeggle | or can you post your configfile? |
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| 21:04.23 | tanq | i was trying to use this script at http://www.purple.dropbear.id.au/node/view/61 to setup my sd as root again.. |
| 21:04.38 | tanq | but i keep getting errors and can't figure out why.. the script makes perfect sense.. |
| 21:04.44 | tanq | like it cant cd / |
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| 21:28.17 | tapo | I am trying out oz 3.5.3/gpe. crasht third time. unusable. |
| 21:28.42 | tapo | changed LookAndFeel Theme to MBO.... no nothing reacts any more |
| 21:28.45 | tapo | now |
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| 21:31.31 | tapo | http://www.openzaurus.org/ says 3.5.3 is out official. could be nice to see that in the topic :) |
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| 21:46.33 | tanq | what fs type does the sd card have to be when using as root |
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| 21:48.18 | cyn | id wager ext2 |
| 21:53.15 | tanq | can you format to ext2 on the z.. my laptop isnt recognizing my sd hardware for some reason.. |
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| 22:34.48 | sonix` | anyone know of a table somewhere comparing the different clamshell zaurus models? i would really appreciate it |
| 22:37.00 | tanq | interesting.. i didnt know the sd card was overwritten |
| 22:37.13 | tanq | it erased my /mnt/card/home and /mnt/card/opt |
| 22:57.27 | sonix` | sharp now outputs the C1000 and C3000 only? |
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