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00:12.54darmoudoes anyone know of a way of importing from address_book.xml to contacts sql in gpe?
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07:27.36alanhello !
07:28.52b0ti|workhi alan
07:29.09b0ti|workI've read your post on the forum.
07:29.15b0ti|workit still lacks information.
07:42.37alantell me and i will precise
07:42.39alan^^
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07:46.10alanhi XorA !
07:47.10b0ti|workalan: tell me about your kernel configuration. do you have usbnet?
07:47.49alanyes, usbnet works perfectly when the zaurus has a 2.4 kernel
07:48.14alantested with oz 3.5.3 gpe, sharp rom and pdaxrom
07:48.52alanthe only rom that refuss to work is the oz opie and it's 2.6.11 kernel
07:49.32alani thik it is related to it's usb0 interface instead of a usbd0 one
07:49.58alanbut i am not sure
07:50.07b0ti|workwhen you plug in the Z, what does dmesg tell you on the Z and on the PC?
07:50.46b0ti|workusb0 is for usb-gadget:ethernet, and usbd0 was for the old 2.4 driver.
07:51.09alanoki... thanks
07:51.53alanyes, the z is here in the dmesg but it tells me about "configuration # 2" that is chosen...
07:52.19alanusb 2-2: configuration #2 chosen from 2 choices
07:52.58alanhrw told me that on his own box, a #1 configuration was used...
07:54.54XorAhi alan
07:54.58alan^^
07:55.18alanb0ti|work: here is all i know about my configurations and my troubles
07:55.20alanhttp://pastebin.ca/10799
07:55.25XorAalan: still no luck with mandrake :-(
07:55.34alanno...
07:55.59alanXorA: do you have a mandrake too ? i can't remember
07:56.28XorAalan: no, I dont touch mandrake
07:56.32alanoki
07:56.43XorAalan: I have ubuntu and debian, and have used gentoo and redhat heavilly as well
07:57.09alanand did you ever played with usbnetworking ?
07:58.08b0ti|workalan: lsmod on mandrake?
07:58.36XorAalan: it has worked on all apart from 2.4 kernel on gentoo which was misconfigured by default
07:58.51b0ti|workalan: when you plug in the Z you should see something like this:
07:58.52b0ti|work<PROTECTED>
07:59.22alanlsmod : http://pastebin.ca/10800
08:01.01alanb0ti|work: i have nothing better than
08:01.03alanusb 2-2: new full speed USB device using address 2
08:01.03alanusb 2-2: configuration #2 chosen from 2 choices
08:01.17alanyou are talking about dmesg, right ?
08:03.03b0ti|workdmesg and/or syslog
08:03.49b0ti|workwhat does your kernel config have CONFIG_USB_GADGET ?
08:03.53b0ti|workdoes your kernel config have CONFIG_USB_GADGET ?
08:04.59alanb0ti|work:
08:05.00alanCONFIG_USB_GADGET=m
08:05.00alanCONFIG_USB_GADGET_NET2280=y
08:05.00alan# CONFIG_USB_GADGET_PXA2XX is not set
08:05.00alan# CONFIG_USB_GADGET_GOKU is not set
08:05.00alan# CONFIG_USB_GADGET_SA1100 is not set
08:05.02alan# CONFIG_USB_GADGET_DUMMY_HCD is not set
08:05.06alanCONFIG_USB_GADGET_DUALSPEED=y
08:05.08alanCONFIG_USB_GADGETFS=m
08:08.12b0ti|workrun "lsusb"
08:12.31alanwhen my sagem fast 800 modem were unplugged and when i plugged in the z flashed with oz opie, i had
08:12.32alan[root@localhost alan]# lsusb
08:12.32alanBus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
08:12.32alanBus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
08:12.32alanBus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
08:12.32alanBus 002 Device 002: ID 0525:a4a2 Netchip Technology, Inc.
08:12.33alanBus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
08:12.35alanBus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
08:13.19b0ti|workwhat do you have for CONFIG_USB_CDCETHER CONFIG_USB_ETH and CONFIG_USB_ETH_RNDIS ?
08:13.32b0ti|work<PROTECTED>
08:13.39alanok.
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08:14.56alanb0ti|work:
08:14.57alan[root@localhost alan]# cat /boot/config | grep CONFIG_USB_CDCETHER
08:14.57alanCONFIG_USB_CDCETHER=y
08:14.57alan[root@localhost alan]# cat /boot/config | grep CONFIG_USB_ETH
08:14.57alanCONFIG_USB_ETH=m
08:14.57alanCONFIG_USB_ETH_RNDIS=y
08:14.58b0ti|workfunny thing is, my PC is 2.4 here and Z is 2.6 and I have trobuble getting it work. But at home 2.6/2.6 works ;)
08:14.59alan[root@localhost alan]# cat /boot/config | grep CONFIG_USB_ETH_RNDIS
08:15.02alanCONFIG_USB_ETH_RNDIS=y
08:16.10alanglurp... got to go to university in 5 mins, until 18:00 tonight
08:16.30alanit's 10:15, here in france
08:17.37b0ti|workand check CONFIG_USB_USBNET. it should be "m" too.
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08:18.42alanb0ti|work: yes it is
08:21.40b0ti|workalan: so far it looks ok, I'll try to think a  bit more.
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08:23.11alanthanks a lot b0ti. it is good to know people are trying to help newbies like me. ^^
08:23.26alanalright, time to go...
08:23.30alanse you
08:23.31b0ti|workalan: can you "modprobe -r usbnet", then "modprobe usbnet"
08:23.42b0ti|workand see what it does
08:23.50alan??
08:23.56alanho !
08:24.20alanwell, my z is flashed with gpe and a 2.4 kernel, so for now everything works...
08:24.51b0ti|workalan: see you tonight when you have 2.6
08:25.09alando you want me arg ! i'm gonna miss my bus ^^'
08:25.12alanbye !!
08:25.16alanthanks again
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08:32.05dballesterhi to all
08:33.04dballesterI'm getting / at 100% what can be deleted to give space? TIA
08:33.28XorAdballester: move some packages to external cards
08:34.52dballesterbut where are located the packages? Exists any faq or howto on who to do it?
08:35.03luke-jr_ipkg-link list /
08:35.29SirSpichey guys =), are there any good road map programs out there?
08:35.51SirSpici'm gonna be moving to a new state and i wouldnt mind a little pocket map
08:36.25luke-jr_gpsdrive?
08:36.26luke-jr_dunno
08:36.41luke-jr_likely gpsdrive, especially if you have a GPS =p
08:37.53SirSpichmm no gps, yet =)
08:38.02SirSpicbut i just would like some road map,
08:39.22dballesterXorA, i can know what packages are uner '/' ( luke-jr_ , thanks ), but i think that is not easy to move them, must exists a script or command to do it. :?
08:39.40luke-jr_dballester: ipkg remove pkgname
08:39.47luke-jr_then install to dest
08:39.56dballesterugh...
08:39.57dballesterok
08:41.00dballesteri'm having some problems with usb net :/ well, i will try to solve the net problems first, and then move some packages
08:41.18luke-jr_don't ask me
08:41.21luke-jr_mine is broken
08:42.04dballesterthanks a lort for the help!
08:42.22SirSpichey luke, got a quick question i have a c3000
08:42.26luke-jr_o
08:42.37SirSpicbut i'm a newb with linux (still learning)
08:43.00SirSpici actually won the 3000 and figured might as well learn a little bout it =)
08:43.07luke-jr_won it where o.O;;
08:43.13SirSpiclinuxworld =D
08:43.16SirSpicin boston
08:43.22luke-jr_bleh
08:43.24luke-jr_I wanted to go there, too
08:43.30SirSpicthey give away so much shit its awesome
08:43.34luke-jr_yea
08:43.36luke-jr_like
08:43.38luke-jr_Monkey munchies!
08:43.39luke-jr_lol
08:43.41SirSpic=D
08:43.56luke-jr_I went to the NY one a year or 2 ago
08:44.03SirSpicsame here =)
08:44.08luke-jr_maybe I saw u there then
08:44.09SirSpici'm in NY
08:44.11luke-jr_o
08:44.14luke-jr_I'm in KS, now
08:44.21SirSpicthats still a state?
08:44.23SirSpic=P
08:44.25luke-jr_...
08:44.32luke-jr_better than NY
08:44.50SirSpic<----moving to hawaii in august
08:44.52luke-jr_I could leave my keys in the car unlocked
08:45.27SirSpicwould i be able to install anything besides files that end in .ipk
08:45.40luke-jr_shrug
08:45.45luke-jr_Personally
08:45.47luke-jr_if I had a C3000
08:45.50luke-jr_I wouldn't be using OZ =p
08:45.55SirSpici'm not
08:46.03SirSpici'm using whatever it came with
08:46.16SirSpicyea yea =) but i got some helpful hints from here
08:46.32luke-jr_lol
08:46.42luke-jr_the Sharp OS it comes w/ is probably useless =p
08:46.49SirSpico shush
08:46.52SirSpicfor what i need it for =)
08:46.54SirSpicits fine
08:47.09luke-jr_I'd find some way to install Gentoo =p
08:47.09dballesterany doc with ipkg command tuturial? TIA
08:47.15luke-jr_ipkg --help
08:52.56dballesterluke-jr_: to install a package to another destination is the option -d combined eith definitions in /etc/ipkg.conf, is it?
08:53.09luke-jr_dballester: dunno
08:53.11luke-jr_dballester: I guess
08:53.22dballesterok :)
08:53.25dballesterthx
08:53.32luke-jr_personally, what i would do in your situation
08:53.35luke-jr_is freak out
09:09.22XorASirSpic: if there is a new cacko release for C3000 thats your best bet for ease of useability, but its worth trying OZ 3.5.3 I find it very rock solid on a C860
09:10.25luke-jr_usbnet =p
09:10.38luke-jr_and wifi roaming
09:10.40XorAluke-jr_: sharp usbnet is same one used on OZ :-)
09:10.48luke-jr_XorA: except the OZ one doesn't work
09:10.56luke-jr_actually, I have no idea if Sharp's works any better... =p
09:11.00XorAluke-jr_: wifi roaming is known, someone need to volunteer to write apps for opie
09:11.10luke-jr_XorA: I don't know the proper APIs
09:11.21XorAluke-jr_: sharps sucks as well, it always crashed on me and required numerous reboots
09:11.35luke-jr_oh wow... C.O.W. patches actually helped this time
09:11.37XorAluke-jr_: opie.handhelds.org has loads of class documentation
09:11.46luke-jr_XorA: I meant WiFi APIs
09:12.12luke-jr_more likely a daemon
09:12.46XorAluke-jr_: roaming is already done, look on freshmeat
09:12.55XorAluke-jr_: someone just need to import into OE
09:13.09luke-jr_XorA: which is overly complex, IMO
09:13.20luke-jr_I used to maintain ebuilds for Gentoo, and I can't get bbs to work
09:14.14luke-jr_in many cases, I find it easier to manually cross-compile apps :|
09:15.51luke-jr_where exactly on freshmeat are you referring to?
09:15.54luke-jr_I can't find anything
09:16.57XorAhttp://freshmeat.net/projects/waproamd/
09:17.46luke-jr_waproamd is officially deprecated
09:17.59luke-jr_wpa_supplicant, which replaces it, doesn't support roaming
09:19.39XorAluke-jr_: that is rather strange as the two programs do totally different tasks :-)
09:20.05luke-jr_I didn't say it made sense to me
09:20.14XorAluke-jr_: there is also SlapASS for opie/qte
09:20.47luke-jr_"waproamd is obsolete, please use wpa_supplicant instead. waproamd contains some race conditions that are impossible to fix. wpa_supplicant supersedes waproamd in almost every way."
09:24.56b0ti|worklooks like usbnet in kernel 2.4.29 is missing support for 2.6.11 usb-gadget: g_ether for c860. ;(
09:25.08luke-jr_??
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10:34.46Rupert-Gilesanyone know how to get mplayer to play movies in landscape mode
10:34.47Rupert-Gileslol
10:35.32XorARupert-Giles: on what Z?
10:35.39Rupert-GilesC3000
10:35.40Rupert-Giles:D
10:35.59XorARupert-Giles: is your console porttrait?
10:36.02Rupert-Gilesi just like plays it at the top in portrait mode
10:36.06Rupert-Gilesno
10:36.10Rupert-Gilesi can change it too
10:36.18XorAmplayer -vop rotate=1
10:36.24Rupert-Gilesooo
10:36.35Rupert-Gilesill give it a whirl thanks
10:36.47XorARupert-Giles: this unaccellerated?
10:36.56Rupert-Gilesprobably
10:37.03Rupert-Gilesi got the latest mplayer
10:37.08Rupert-Gilesthe movie plays well
10:37.15Rupert-Gileslike in the portrait mode
10:37.35XorARupert-Giles: from where?
10:37.53Rupert-Gilesthat atty.jp site
10:38.23Rupert-Gileswatching starwars eps 3 trailers :D
10:45.01Rupert-Gilesok it keeps the same aspect but is wicked slow
10:45.05Rupert-Gilesin landscape
10:45.31XorARupert-Giles: rotate takes 30% cpu load ish
10:45.51Rupert-Gilesok
10:50.19XorARupert-Giles: does OZ on C3000 have bvdd device?
10:50.46Rupert-Gilesdunno not using OZ
10:50.49Rupert-Giles:|
10:51.02Rupert-Gileswish i was
10:51.04XorARupert-Giles: you using -vo bvdd on sharp rom?
10:51.10Rupert-Gilesnop
10:51.22XorARupert-Giles: give it a try, it should be much faser
10:51.33Rupert-Gilescool i'll take a look XorA
10:52.54Rupert-Gilesdoh
10:53.04Rupert-Giles/dev/bvdd no such file of directory
10:53.05Rupert-Giles:|
11:11.37Rupert-Gilesdoh now the audio is out of sync
11:11.38Rupert-Gileslol
11:11.42Rupert-Gileswell on this one movie
11:13.35XorAoooh, new mplayer-atty, must intergrate
11:14.12XorARupert-Giles:  is now known as CoreDump|afk
11:14.17XorAsorry
11:14.22XorARupert-Giles: http://atty.jp/?plugin=attach&refer=Zaurus%2Fmplayer&openfile=bvdd_0.3.1-1_arm.ipk
11:16.07Rupert-Gileslol :)
11:16.37Rupert-Gilesworks well i think
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11:17.59GeeSeCillohi
11:18.27Rupert-GilesXorA i've got mplayer-bvdd_1.1.3.... do i need the bvdd_0.3.1-1_arm.ipk too?
11:18.51XorARupert-Giles: I can read japanese, but it looks like thats the /dev/bvdd stuff
11:18.56XorAcant read
11:19.39GeeSeCilloone question... why when i run perl ...tell me error?
11:19.59GeeSeCillo# perl
11:19.59GeeSeCilloIllegal instruction
11:20.45GeeSeCilloIllegal instruction
11:20.48GeeSeCilloops
11:21.43XorAGeeSeCillo: sounds like pxa perl on sa device or just totally the wrong file format
11:21.48Rupert-Gilesok cool
11:23.13GeeSeCilloXorA, archive it's correct
11:23.27GeeSeCillo.pl it's correct
11:23.54Rupert-Gilessystem will reboot
11:23.59Rupert-Gileshmm
11:24.10Rupert-Giles:D
11:24.23XorAsounds like *doze
11:24.31Rupert-Gilesheh have you installed it?
11:24.55GeeSeCilloyes
11:25.04Rupert-Gilesis it like some accelerated vid driver or something?
11:25.18Rupert-Gilesnot just for mplayer
11:25.20GeeSeCilloPackage: perl
11:25.20GeeSeCilloVersion: 5.6.1-7
11:25.20GeeSeCilloStatus: install user installed
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11:25.29b0ti|workgee: is your perl (or linked in libs) for arm?
11:26.05GeeSeCillob0ti|work, i install perl with ipkg install perl...
11:26.15GeeSeCilloand run ldconfig
11:26.33GeeSeCilloonly with perl command say illegal instruction
11:26.36GeeSeCilloO_O
11:27.00b0ti|workstrace perl ?
11:27.30GeeSeCillostrace? i con't understant it
11:27.34Rupert-Gilesok cool
11:27.35GeeSeCillo*don't
11:27.48Rupert-Gileswicked sick
11:27.51Rupert-Gilesunstoppable
11:27.57Rupert-Gilesmultikill
11:28.14GeeSeCilloroot@zaurus:/# perl
11:28.14GeeSeCilloIllegal instruction
11:28.14GeeSeCilloroot@zaurus:/#
11:28.18Rupert-Giles:)
11:28.33Rupert-GilesXorA it's faster and it puts it bang smack in the center of landscape mode
11:28.39Rupert-Giles;)
11:29.46b0ti|workgee: root@zaurus:/# strace perl
11:30.25GeeSeCilloi haven't strace command
11:30.29b0ti|workinstall it
11:30.33GeeSeCillook one sec
11:34.12GeeSeCilloConfiguring strace ...
11:34.21GeeSeCilloone thousand sec?
11:34.22GeeSeCillo;)
11:36.50XorARupert-Giles: wicked
11:38.53Rupert-GilesXorA you know how to re-sync the audio
11:39.02Rupert-Gilesi've tried + - doesnt really work
11:39.02Rupert-Giles:|
11:41.53XorARupert-Giles: there is ntohing will fix it if you are dropping too many frames
11:42.08Rupert-Gileshm
11:42.20XorARupert-Giles: -framedrop or -hard-framedrop try
11:45.27Rupert-Gilesyah its dodgy
11:45.28Rupert-Gilesheh
11:45.44Rupert-Gilesthe other trailer i've got is good tho
11:48.21GeeSeCillob0ti|work, --- SIGILL (Illegal instruction) @ 0 (0) ---
11:48.21GeeSeCillo+++ killed by SIGILL +++
11:49.38GeeSeCillogo home
11:49.51b0ti|workgee: wrong binary
11:49.57GeeSeCilloouch
11:50.11GeeSeCillook i compile it...
11:50.14b0ti|workGeeSeCillo: must have been compiled for a different arch
11:50.16GeeSeCillothanz b0ti|work
11:50.27GeeSeCillob0ti|work, i install of openzaurus.org
11:50.42b0ti|workgee: should have told that first!
11:51.05b0ti|work;)
11:51.13GeeSeCillo;)
11:51.54GeeSeCillohehe
11:52.20GeeSeCilloMD5Sum: 36e7db1c60e69bcddbf5b6eb9ea12271
11:52.20GeeSeCilloSize: 1082512
11:52.20GeeSeCilloFilename: perl_5.6.1-7_arm.ipk
11:52.32GeeSeCillook go home :P
11:52.39GeeSeCillothanz b0ti|work ;)
11:52.46b0ti|workGeeSeCillo: c u
11:53.03GeeSeCillofor slaps ...
11:53.04GeeSeCillo:P
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12:12.07Rupert-GilesXorA got movies working cool
12:12.14Rupert-Gilesjust gotta re-encode them with a smaller scale
12:12.18Rupert-Gilesand they work perfect
12:12.18Rupert-Giles;D
12:12.34tanqyep...
12:25.04XorARupert-Giles: I encode all mine to 320x240 and go fullscreen
12:27.27Rupert-Gilesfullscreen whoot
12:27.30Rupert-Giles;)
12:27.34Rupert-Gileshardcore
12:28.15Rupert-Gileswhat's the mplayer fullscreen switch?
12:32.50XorAfbset -n -xres 320 -yres 240
12:33.16Rupert-Gilescool
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12:42.43folken23hi quick question: what partitiontype does the cf card have to be for flashing on a collie?
12:43.19NoodlesNormal CF style I assume; VFAT on partition 1?
12:44.22folken23Noodles: yes i have created a partitiontable and formated it with mkfs.vfat -F16 /dev/sdb1 . However It doesn't flash and I currently have selected partitiontype 'b' in the ptbl.
12:45.35folken23I don't have an original card for reference.. unfortunatly.
12:45.57XorADevice Boot    Start       End    Blocks   Id  System
12:45.57XorA/dev/hda1   *           1         993      500440+   6  FAT16
12:46.25folken23Ah! thx XorA :)
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12:51.16Rupert-GilesXorA, you said you can get tab completion working in Qkonsole didn't you?
12:51.17Rupert-Giles;D
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12:51.32XorARupert-Giles: doesnt it work?
12:51.46Rupert-Gilesno
12:52.05XorARupert-Giles: last time I used it it did, but Im on GPE now
12:52.49Rupert-Gileswould be so much easier with it
12:52.50Rupert-Gileslol
12:52.54folken23FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive!
12:52.55Rupert-Gilesmy thumb is about to snap
12:53.01folken23hmm could the above be a problem?
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12:53.27Rupert-GilesXorA, you got a C3000?
12:53.36XorARupert-Giles: nope, C860
12:53.43Rupert-Gilesok cool
12:54.13Rupert-Gilescool
12:54.24Rupert-Gileswish i could go to japan
12:55.21XorARupert-Giles: its not that fun if you are working, I had to fly 11 hours then work 8
12:55.34Rupert-GilesOOO
12:55.36Rupert-Giles:*(
12:55.40Rupert-Gileswhat you do?
12:55.47XorASoftware Engineer
12:55.53Rupert-Gilesok nice
12:57.11XorAnot working on any decent stuff though, fscking JavaCards
12:57.17Rupert-Gileshmm
12:57.21Rupert-Gileswhat languages you code in?
12:57.47XorAC, Java, Perl
12:57.56Rupert-Gilesnice
12:58.05Rupert-GilesC/C++ is my game
12:58.19Rupert-Gilesi've done java in university
13:00.53tanqJavaCards?
13:01.21XorAtanq: Java running on a smart card (VISA Cards and the like)
13:01.22tanqsmart card stuff
13:01.39tanqhave you done anything with it?
13:01.51XorAtanq: I write them
13:02.11tanqhmm..
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13:04.19Rupert-GilesXorA, heh anyway to get qpdf to display in landscape mode
13:04.20Rupert-Gileslol
13:04.46tanqi always saw smart cards as something to be read not executed
13:05.32XorAtanq: some of ours have 32 cpus in them
13:05.42XorA32 bit
13:05.54XorAclustering smartcards would be silly :-)
13:06.02XorARupert-Giles: rotate opie?
13:06.10tanqi'm used to seeing the ones the military uses with the little gold chip
13:06.12Rupert-Gilesno opie!!
13:06.13Rupert-Giles:P
13:06.28XorARupert-Giles: rortate sharp?
13:07.02XorAtanq: there are memory cards and smart cards, smart cards are getting quiet powerful
13:07.17tanqyeah i think the ones the military use have the microprocessor in it
13:08.04XorAthey wont let me do Linux for Smartcards :-)
13:08.59Rupert-Gilesboo
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13:19.16lardmanafternoon all
13:21.49StarScreamafternoon
13:25.26StarScreamanyone know if there is a fix for the "hold cancel and crash" bug in 3.5.3
13:26.30XorAStarScream: not that Ive seen
13:28.26StarScreamhmm i wish i could program in C. 3.5.2 didn't work with my phone, that got fixed in 3.5.3 along with practically every other bug i'd previously run into, but now i can't sleep my Z at all :)
13:29.23XorAStarScream: main problem is sharp kernel is pish and no-one has the right information to make 2.6 work and total lack of volunteers to do it
13:30.05StarScreamwhy is it so different for the other Z's ?
13:31.54XorAStarScream: 5000,5500,5600 use differnt hardware from c7x0, and C3000/C1000 are another new set of hardware
13:33.15StarScreamXorA: so is it a problem with the 5600's as well?
13:38.46XorAStarScream: no idea, so few people own them I never see reports
13:40.56StarScreamhmm would it be better to get an Ipaq or something then...i don't really like the sort of fold open Zaurus's but i think its handy to run apache/etc on my PDA. But i'd really like it to work and preferably sync with my KDE desktop
13:41.27StarScreami thought that getting a Z would allow me to do that. I didn't realise there were problems with sharp releasing info
13:42.25XorAStarScream: no idea what state of Ipaq support is youd have to ask familiar guys
13:42.43XorAStarScream: is there an apache for OZ?
13:42.43StarScreamXorA: which Z do you have?
13:42.53StarScreamXorA: yeh :)
13:42.56XorAStarScream: C860, running GPE with kernel 2.6 and it rocks
13:43.11StarScreamXorA: and everything works on it?
13:43.39XorAStarScream: the only this I cant get to work is Pocketop keyboard
13:46.47XorAits a sad state of affairs really, but when hardware specs are kept secret we are kind of stuck
13:47.00XorAcollie is a nice machine and with 2.6 kernel would see new life
13:49.12StarScreami actually like my collie i think it rocks as a PDA, the Original sharp rom is ok, but I haven't been able to get it to sync with KDE yet.
13:50.10XorAStarScream: unfortuneately, linux syncing in general sucks
13:50.29XorAStarScream: hopfully with opensync framework all the projects will come together
13:50.58XorAStarScream: kdepimpi should sync with KDE though
13:51.49StarScreamhmm i might try that then with the original ROM. I think kontact is amazing, and i have no idea how i lived without it. I just want to get that info on my PDA so i don't have to enter it twice
13:52.22StarScreamwhat i'd really like is a central slox server or something that i can sync all my different machiens with, then sync my zaurus on any of those machines :)
13:52.53StarScreami guess i am asking for quite a bit. :)
13:54.52XorAStarScream: checkout kdepimpi as its Kontact on Zaurus
13:55.57bipolaris anyone useing http://www.pi-sync.net on their.....
13:56.01bipolarXorA, damn...
13:56.11StarScreamk will have a look
13:56.12bipolarXorA, are you using it? ;)
13:56.15XorAbipolar: your far to slow for here :-)
13:56.19bipolarlol
13:56.23XorAbipolar: I was until i switched to GPE
13:56.38bipolarXorA, how did it work?
13:56.48StarScreamwill GPE sync with kde by any chance? :)
14:03.00bipolarStarScream, I think there was a plan to have a gpe plugin for multisync.
14:03.12bipolarI dunno how well that went
14:06.08StarScreamk, i'll give this kdepimpi a go and see how well it works. Will that just let me press the sync button in Kontact 1.1 (comes with 3.4) ?
14:06.13Rupert-Gileshehe southpark on Z
14:07.11Rupert-Gileswho here has a C3000 and knows where the } key is
14:07.12Rupert-Gileslol
14:07.15Rupert-Gilesi found the {
14:07.49bipolarStarScream, I dont know. I havnt used it yet.
14:09.20StarScreamah k, thanks for your help
14:09.25XorARupert-Giles: arg, someone asked that before then finally found it
14:09.40Rupert-Gileslol
14:09.44XorAbipolar: kdepimpi worked for me, but I dont use KDE so never tried syncing with that
14:09.47Rupert-Gilesi found the { char
14:09.59Rupert-Gilesit's like [fn ,]
14:10.53Rupert-GilesXorA, do you have like a cross compiler for the Z on your main box?
14:11.00Rupert-Gilesso you can write your own apps?
14:11.24XorARupert-Giles: openembedded
14:11.46Rupert-Gilesthat where you get it?
14:11.48Rupert-Gilesschweet
14:11.57XorAwww.openembedded.org
14:12.09Rupert-Gilesi'll have to cheggout writing some apps
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14:26.26KallDrexxI have a problem. I'm getting unresolved Qt symbols when running a bunch of apps, like _2Qt.darkCyan and  _7QString.shared_null
14:26.28KallDrexxany ideas whY?
14:31.18b0ti|workKallDrexx: for what apps?
14:32.25KallDrexxnamely gutenbrowser and justreader
14:32.54KallDrexxjust sounds wierd because those look liek they should be standard qt stuff
14:33.25XorAKallDrexx: install sharp-compat
14:33.33KallDrexxah, where do I get it?
14:33.40XorAKallDrexx: in 3.5.3 feed
14:34.06XorAKallDrexx: then use makecompat in settings screen
14:34.16KallDrexxok cool i'll get it now
14:35.22KallDrexxwhich directory is sharp-compat in?
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14:38.39KallDrexxah found it
14:47.41b0ti|workKallDrexx: why don't you use the network install with ipkg? It'll download it for you automatically.
14:47.54KallDrexxcause I don't have a docking station or usb cord yet :(
14:48.33KallDrexxI have to do everything through my 256 cf
14:48.47b0ti|workthat must suck
14:48.52KallDrexxonce I get paid again I"m going to get the z to usb cord
14:48.54KallDrexxyep
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14:56.59KallDrexxbleh for dependencies
15:00.53KallDrexxugh
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15:01.13KallDrexxinstalled it and hte "libraries" program says it can't locate the program "makecompat"
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15:02.33KallDrexxis it normal that apps installed on a CF can't link during install?
15:03.00jdh41only if its fs doens't support linking
15:03.16KallDrexxfs on the cf?
15:03.18jdh41CF by default comes formatted with fat, which doesn't
15:03.23KallDrexxah ok
15:03.51KallDrexxcause iI apprenllty installed some things on the cf that aren't availalbe through any way but going through the console or file manager when they should have icons :(
15:04.04KallDrexxbut unfortunatly I have the 5000D so I cna't fit crap on my Z :(
15:06.18jdh41you can reformat the CF to be ext2 [it jsut wont read in a windows machine/camera then]
15:06.38KallDrexxwell I need it to run in windows since thats what my desktop is now
15:06.57XorAyou can also create a disk image on a VFAT card and not lose ability ro use windows
15:07.24XorAalthough that may screw with suspend, cant remeber if its intelligent enough to recurse
15:08.26KallDrexxwell if the syncing works like I want it to (being able to freely transfer files) then I won't care about windows compatability
15:09.48KallDrexxheh I used to use my Z for movies when I was in high school
15:09.50KallDrexxthat was awsome
15:09.59KallDrexxbut now I can bring my laptop everywhere so I just use that :P
15:10.37KallDrexxARG, I instlaled sharp-compat onto the stupid root and it still says It can't find makecompat
15:13.22KallDrexxgreat apparently my root doens't have enough space
15:21.53KallDrexxah well, time ot go out of town, later all :)
15:21.57KallDrexxthanks for all of your help
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16:26.52SirSpichey guys quick question, http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=74158&package_id=74997&release_id=244965
16:27.14SirSpici have a zaurus with the sharp rom on it...i'm still baisc with linux which of the 4 would i install?
16:27.23SirSpicif i even could...
16:28.10jh_SirSpic: arm
16:28.27jh_but it's not an ipk
16:28.40SirSpicso no installing right?
16:28.47SirSpici tried installing other gz but no go
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16:29.34jh_i think you need an ipk.  .tar.gz will be a manual install
16:29.50SirSpic=/ the tars didnt work with this one
16:30.52jh_no ipk anywhere?  google might have something...?
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16:54.16alanhi !
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16:54.43catskulany opinions on opie vs GPE ?
16:55.02alancatskul: they are very different
16:55.16alanthe choice depends on what you want you zaurus for...
16:55.37alanif you expect it to be a pda, then choose opie
16:55.52alanif you want it to be a sub laptop, then it's gpe
16:56.01catskulI see.
16:56.12alanbut both are really great.
16:56.20catskulIs there alot of software available for GPE env ?
16:57.12alannot a lot a lot... but enough to play with your Z.
16:57.52catskul...but there is alot for opie ?
16:57.59alanhave a look in the feeds ! that would tell you if what you want is in here
17:00.07catskulis Openzaurus fairly good with hardware detection for flash devices ?
17:01.22alanyes, it works just fine. some people complained about some sd cards, but in general, everything is fine
17:02.35catskuloh... sdio works? or do you mean just some sd storage devs ?
17:04.42alanerhhh... what do you precisely mean by "flash device" ?
17:04.59catskulcf wifi
17:05.03catskulspecifically
17:05.40catskulI have a symbol CF wifi card, hoping that it works (flashing currently)
17:06.35catskuloh wow... I see that its a 2.6 kernel
17:07.15catskulthats pretty cool that you guys got that working... did it offer much improvement over 2.4.x ?
17:24.31catskulhmm it looks like its trying to run at some non native resolution... getting a bit of flicker/hazyness and everything is really tiny : /
17:24.31alanwell, don't ask me neither about the wifi card (i don't have any...) nor the 2.6 kernel...
17:24.31alanho btw, gpe doesn't run a 2.6 kernel
17:24.31alancatskul: i guess you are using gpe...
17:24.31catskulno... opie
17:24.31catskulon c760
17:24.31alanabout flickering, it is due to the x server. search for flickering in the pdaxrom section of the oesf.org forum...
17:24.31alantiny ? i think you can set this in options.. i don't know, i use gpe...
17:24.33catskulopie is a little light on options : /
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17:24.34catskuldoes Opie run on top of X ?
17:24.35alanno... i think it is on a framebuffer, but i'm not sure
17:27.57catskul... appearently I didnt follow the directions... I was supposed to wipe some dirs before installing : /
17:38.21alanho, the /home/* thing...
17:38.21alanyeah... that is boring, i know...
17:38.21alanyou should thing about flashing once more... after you deleted everything in the /home directory
17:48.57catskulit seems to have fixed my resolution problem
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17:54.16catskulstill a bit of flicker though
18:10.28alanhi hrw !
18:10.43hrwhi
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18:44.42wpikuhello boys and girls
19:04.27catskulwelcome to zombo com
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21:13.35alanlotd of people, little talks... ^^
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21:19.05bipolarhow are you guys running oz w/opie syncing? I've found an ipkg in the repo called "opensync" and I found it has something to do with multisync but I'm confused about it.
21:24.26alanbipolar: http://opensync.drzeus.cx/
21:25.31alanerr...
21:25.33alanhttp://www.opensync.org/
21:25.35alanbetter
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21:31.41alani leave, but before i want to make a wish.
21:32.08alanCould please someone try to get us a GBA emulator on OZ ?
21:32.21alanVisualBoyAdvance is wonderful
21:34.00alani'm pretty sure it won't work because the z cpu may be too slow but could someone try to compile it please (^_^)
21:34.05alangood night
21:43.32offroadgeekwhy hasn't OZ swapped the ,/ key on the C series roms?  I find that I use the / much more than ,
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21:48.50phraghi all
21:52.24phragare OpenZaurus packages being maintained for the C3000, and is anyone here running such ?
21:54.39NoodlesThere's a beta build for the C3000.
21:54.44NoodlesI'm running a C3000.
21:55.07NoodlesI'm just compiling up an image which I think fixes the Fn keymap issue.
21:55.33phragNoodles: how is it ?
21:56.05NoodlesThe C3000? Lovely. OZ on it? A bit rough at present, but nearly there. The Fn keymap is my last major issue I think.
21:56.05phragthe main thing i am interested is maintainability... the Sharp rom packages are long longer maintained, and there is hardly athing available for it
21:56.12NoodlesYup.
21:56.37phragi love my c3000, but would it more if i had a nice range of software ready to go
21:56.52phragi can compile, but uptodate packages are nicer
21:57.14NoodlesWell, it looks pretty much like it'll be a supported platform for OZ 3.5.4.
21:57.38NoodlesHave you read the first article on http://www.openzaurus.org/wordpress/ ?
21:57.39phragfor instance, still can't get mplayer or kino working right... nor can i get gpg on it
21:58.00phragexcellent... reading now
21:58.27jh_Noodles: will your Fn keymap fix also fix akita?
21:58.43NoodlesI /hope/ so, but I'll need someone to test. :)
21:59.32NoodlesIt makes the application buttons at the bottom work too.
22:00.30jh_awesome. i'm about to flash an image i built to my akita, if that works I could give it a try
22:00.47offroadgeeknoodles: do you know if the d-pad is fixed in the new build?
22:02.01offroadgeeknoodles:  I'm happy to test all you need for the akita
22:03.11Noodlesd-pad isn't sorted yet.
22:05.24offroadgeekno worries
22:06.20NoodlesThe d-pad is harder; it works fine under console so opie is rotating it.
22:18.06offroadgeekanyone know if kphone works on OZ?
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22:38.46root_hello
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22:42.04narcohello
22:42.12narcoanyone here?
22:42.31narcoI have a question if anyone could help?
22:43.09SuDi don't know the answer to THAT question yet
22:43.24narcowell it seems everyone is sleeping
22:43.37narcomaybe I shouldn't wake them up
22:44.02narcoanyone have patience for a newbie?
22:44.41SuDi'm less than newbie, i don't have a zaurus
22:45.10jh_what's up narco
22:46.19narcowell I finally got the 5500 with GPE and OE installed
22:46.31narcoOpen Zaurus
22:46.54jh_cool
22:47.11narcoThe only thing that the post forgot to mention is that you have to turn the switch to normal battery
22:47.13narcomode
22:47.25narcobut no one picked up on it
22:47.39narcoI did it out of fustration
22:47.52narcoI spent hours and days
22:48.02jh_did you add a comment to those instructions?  (this is on openzaurus.org?)
22:48.10narcotrying to figure this thing out
22:48.37narcoI couldn't something with my office lan
22:49.03narcoWell I got it to work now. I followed all the directions
22:49.23narcoon the usb in linux connectivity and still I cannot ssh to it
22:49.25jh_if you can add a comment with what you found so the next person doesn't feel your pain :)
22:49.31narcossh root@collie
22:49.50narcotells me connection refused
22:49.59jh_hmm... can you ping it?
22:50.01narcoyes
22:50.08narcoi ssh the ip address
22:50.10jh_sounds like sshd (dropbear) isn't running
22:50.25narcoand it told me my ip and port 20  was refused
22:50.34narcohow do I run it
22:50.37jh_does gpe come with a terminal app?
22:50.40narcoyes
22:51.19jh_fire that up and make sure dropbear is installed.  i don't know if GPE includes it
22:51.35narcoNewbie here
22:51.42narcowht is the command
22:52.11jh_i'm not as familiar with GPE... does 'ipkg' work?
22:52.46narcoyes
22:52.48jh_ipkg info dropbear
22:54.18narcosuccess
22:54.23narconow what
22:54.43jh_ok, so it's installed.  try 'ps' to see if it's running
22:55.04jh_look for dropbear in the list of running processes
22:55.39jh_if it's not running try /etc/init.d/dropbear start
22:55.56narcopermission denied
22:56.12jh_by the way, you were doing ssh to port 22, right?  not port 20?
22:56.25jh_you might have to 'su' to root
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22:57.21narco22
22:57.25narcoyes
22:57.28jh_ok
22:57.35narcoi su
22:57.37narcoto root
22:57.48jh_did you try ps to see if dropbear was running?
22:57.54narcoi did ps but did see
22:59.30narcois there run cmd for dropbear
22:59.53jh_can you do the /etc/init.d/dropbear start?
23:00.12jh_it might have to generate keys and the init script takes care of that
23:00.23jh_although that could be the problem -- a missing init script
23:01.14narcodropbear not found
23:02.11jh_ls -al /usr/sbin/dropbear
23:02.15narcodropbear present
23:03.41jh_weird.  take a look at /etc/init.d/dropbear (in vi or GPE's text editor) and see how it is calling dropbear
23:03.46narcocame up
23:03.48narcopresent
23:03.53jh_ah
23:04.01jh_so you can ssh
23:04.02jh_?
23:04.25narcopermissions lrwxrwxrwx
23:04.48offroadgeeknoodles:  when will the updated rom be ready for testing (on akita)?
23:06.18jh_heck, try : /usr/sbin/dropbear -r /etc/dropbear/dropbear_rsa_host_key -p 22
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23:08.42narcogoing to try
23:10.24narconothing happened
23:10.39narcowent to prompt
23:11.01narcodid it work?
23:11.55narcohelp
23:11.58jh_do another ps to see if it's running
23:13.25narcono drop bear
23:14.09jh_does /etc/init.d/dropbear exist?
23:15.03narcodropbear present
23:15.21jh_and when you run /etc/init.d/dropbear start it reports "dropbear not found" ?
23:15.51jh_thats "/etc/init.d/dropbear start"
23:15.52subduestupid keyboard binding is driving me nuts
23:16.22narcono did do anything
23:16.40narcowent to prompt
23:17.40jh_does "/usr/sbin/dropbear -h" do anything
23:19.10narcogame me help
23:19.15narcooptions
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23:21.14jh_try "/etc/init.d/dropbear restart"
23:22.29narcorestarting dropbear
23:22.34narcoSSH Server
23:23.00jh_try ssh again
23:23.15narco:stopped /usr/sbib/dropbear (pid 1471 1467 1460 1438 439)
23:23.20jh_heh
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23:24.55narcocannot ping
23:24.58narcoor connect
23:25.00narcossh
23:25.48jh_ifconfig shows an interface other than loopback?
23:25.49SuDcannot ping?
23:25.55jh_i thought you could ping before?
23:26.23narcoI cannot even lsusb
23:26.25SuDbut it refuses connect? is there an ip conflict?
23:26.56jh_ifconfig
23:27.24narcosays cmd not foun
23:27.27narcodamn it
23:27.32narcoFedora Core 3
23:27.42jh_ifconfig on the Z
23:27.56jh_on FC3 you need to be root for 'ifconfig'
23:28.11SuDor change your paths
23:28.50narcoI have the ip address
23:29.07narcoeven if I use su?
23:29.17SuDit has to be su -
23:29.26SuDnote the hyphen
23:29.29narcook
23:30.00narcodamn now its  not showing up
23:30.03narcolsusb
23:30.36SuDifconfig -a
23:31.27narcono usb0
23:31.32narcoeth0,1
23:31.34narcolo
23:31.38narcosit0
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23:32.11SuDperhaps one of those eth is really the usb device?
23:33.01narcoi soft resetting
23:33.11narcono the IP is different
23:33.51narconow I got it back
23:35.08narconow I changed it to 192.168.129.1
23:36.26SuDcan you ping to and from? or connect ssh to and from?
23:38.38narcoLast login: Tue May  3 16:07:01 2005
23:38.46narcoI connected?
23:39.45narcostill has the same root@localhost
23:39.50narcocd ..
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23:47.22narcoit says I permanently
23:47.27narcoadded as know hosts
23:47.37narcorsa key finger prnt
23:48.56narcowhat do you think?
23:49.01narcoam I connected?
23:49.10SuDyes
23:49.20SuDtcp socket hast to be established prior to that point
23:49.22narcoit boots me back to my root@localhost
23:49.31narcohow?
23:49.46SuDlocalhost is your pc or your zaurus?
23:49.52narcopc
23:49.59narcozaurus is collie
23:50.03narcoI assume
23:50.06SuDkee in mind that every host is localhost
23:50.09SuDfor itself
23:50.12narcook
23:52.44narconow that I ssh
23:52.48narcocan I connect?
23:52.56narcoor install the tcp socket?

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