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| 00:07.18 | Plouj | man, I want a zaurus c1000... |
| 00:07.41 | Ikkakujyu | Don't we all :D |
| 00:07.49 | Plouj | some want c3000, or c6000 |
| 00:08.06 | Ikkakujyu | Yeah, but the C1000 is affordable :D |
| 00:08.15 | Plouj | only relatively |
| 00:08.25 | Ikkakujyu | Hrm. |
| 00:08.40 | Noodles | C6000? |
| 00:08.49 | Ikkakujyu | Do you mean SL-6000? |
| 00:08.55 | Plouj | oh, yeah, something like that |
| 00:09.06 | Plouj | :) |
| 00:09.19 | Plouj | oh, that one sucks, never mind, I just meant c3000 |
| 00:09.41 | Noodles | I like my C3000. |
| 00:09.41 | Plouj | c7**/c8** would be fine for me too |
| 00:09.49 | Noodles | Especially now OZ is usable on it. |
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| 00:11.19 | Plouj | maybe if a few years, I'll get one |
| 00:11.29 | Plouj | or if I find one lying on the street |
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| 00:59.14 | ljp | i find the c3000 a bit heavy, especially compared to a c700 |
| 01:02.17 | ljp | the 6000 is nice becasue it has wifi |
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| 01:29.01 | Plouj | or even more (on froogle) |
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| 07:23.02 | alan | plop |
| 07:27.01 | alan | niharg... oesf is down... |
| 07:41.27 | subdue | no it's not |
| 07:55.57 | alan | hi XorA ! |
| 07:57.36 | XorA | alan: dude meister |
| 07:57.38 | alan | subdue: you are right, iy's back... |
| 07:57.45 | alan | XorA: ^^ |
| 07:58.32 | alan | XorA: do you know if a 2.6 kernel based gpe image is planned ? |
| 08:00.39 | XorA | alan|shower: I beleive it is, I am running it right now |
| 08:13.12 | alan|shower | XorA: and what are the improvements ? |
| 08:13.18 | alan|shower | hi hrw ! |
| 08:13.49 | hrw | hi all |
| 08:14.02 | XorA | alan: its a whole lot more stable, faster (as in more reactive to user input) |
| 08:14.12 | XorA | alan: and now I fixed it suspend is lightning fast |
| 08:16.00 | alan | glop glop ! i'll test it when it's publicly released. |
| 08:16.53 | alan | got to go to a internationnal philosophie meeting ^^ i'm proud to be invited to this ! but i have to go if i don't want to be late. |
| 08:17.03 | alan | see you! |
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| 08:27.06 | dgram | hi all |
| 08:27.41 | dgram | hi XorA |
| 08:27.46 | hrw | hi dgram |
| 08:27.49 | XorA | dgram: hi |
| 08:27.57 | dgram | im hrw |
| 08:28.22 | dgram | I havnt had much of a chance to work on my Z serial issue since last crack |
| 08:28.35 | XorA | dgram: :-( |
| 08:28.49 | XorA | dgram: I had couple of ideas, force baud rate to 115200 |
| 08:29.02 | XorA | dgram: other than that I think the interrupt must be being assigned wrong |
| 08:29.45 | dgram | XorA: I have flashed back to the default OZ image because I couldnt get USB networking hapening with your moded one, but I'll flash yours again and force 115200 |
| 08:30.14 | dgram | do you think serial_cs.o is listening for interrupts on the wrong pin or something? (i think u mentioned this last time) |
| 08:30.44 | XorA | dgram: well if uart is producing IRQ's and Z is not seeing them it does smack to me of a misdirection somewhere |
| 08:32.02 | dgram | the IRQ the kernel reports is 39 |
| 08:32.07 | dgram | i didnt know they went that high |
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| 08:32.30 | hrw | dgram: zaurus have more irq then your pc |
| 08:32.47 | dgram | ahh.. something to do with ARM eh? |
| 08:32.51 | hrw | yep |
| 08:32.54 | dgram | kewl |
| 08:32.58 | hrw | cat /proc/interrupts |
| 08:33.08 | dgram | ta |
| 08:37.24 | dgram | XorA: flashing back to your image now.. will let you know how she goes |
| 09:08.58 | b0ti|work | ~seen lardman |
| 09:09.01 | ibot | lardman <~lardman@138.38.73.178> was last seen on IRC in channel #openzaurus, 23h 37m 42s ago, saying: 'hi alan|work'. |
| 09:13.50 | dgram | OMG - the rx counter went up by 1! |
| 09:14.02 | dgram | it should have been 2 or 3 but i think its just the wrong baud rate |
| 09:14.09 | dgram | its never budged off 0 before!! |
| 09:14.47 | XorA | dgram: wicked |
| 09:15.23 | dgram | fark i gotta get minicom in this |
| 09:19.12 | dgram | usb networking doesnt want to go... i have an IPK of minicom but i have 2 failed dependances... |
| 09:19.31 | dgram | I'll pop WIFI in and "ipkg install minicom"? |
| 09:21.18 | XorA | dgram: wonder what busted USB |
| 09:22.06 | dgram | dunno, im sure your mods had nothing to do with it... theres a kernel module called usbnet thats reponsible for usb connections i think |
| 09:22.32 | XorA | dgram: I would have thought my kernel was link compatible, but it is possible I screwed it |
| 09:22.56 | dgram | hmm... the network stuff is playing up |
| 09:23.02 | dgram | doesnt matter for now |
| 09:23.18 | dgram | I can transfer files to it via SD card - i got a card reader on my pc |
| 09:24.07 | dgram | where do i find ncursors-base and libncursors5 |
| 09:24.36 | dgram | :) |
| 09:24.51 | dgram | i gtg eat - 7:30pm here, dinner time :) bbiaf |
| 09:24.57 | XorA | dgram: cool |
| 09:32.09 | hrw | someone can suggest 2.1 speakers for desktop machine? |
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| 10:15.05 | dgram | back |
| 10:17.05 | dgram | where's the spot where i can directly download ipk files from a feed? |
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| 10:47.43 | lardman | Does anyone know, off the top of their heads, whether libusb is kernel specific? |
| 10:47.51 | lardman | before I go digging through the code |
| 10:49.52 | XorA | lardman: AFAIK libusb just parses /proc/blah/usb and usbfs |
| 10:50.00 | XorA | lardman: so not kernel specific |
| 10:50.16 | lardman | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:50.47 | lardman | XorA: do you have usbfs on your Z atm? |
| 10:50.50 | XorA | lardman: should do, it used to on x86, gphoto uses libusb to talk to my camera |
| 10:51.00 | lardman | XorA: Cool |
| 10:51.18 | XorA | lardman: I have no usb at all on Z, waiting for b0ti|work and you to finish that driver |
| 10:51.31 | lardman | :) |
| 10:51.39 | lardman | of course, silly question |
| 10:52.02 | lardman | anyone had a chance to strace quake for me? |
| 10:52.12 | lardman | ;) |
| 10:54.24 | lardman | Does anyone know the specifics of qpegps and gpsd and why gpsd needs to be patched? |
| 10:57.55 | hrw | qpegps cannot talk to newer gpsd |
| 10:58.06 | lardman | but why? |
| 10:58.27 | lardman | (I'm just trying to deal with: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=12449&hl=) |
| 11:01.09 | hrw | dont know - never used |
| 11:03.19 | lardman | ok, not to worry, not a priority for me atm |
| 11:04.10 | lardman | hrw: could you build libusb and stick it in the upgrades feed please |
| 11:04.28 | lardman | hrw: I couldn't see it in any of the other feeds |
| 11:04.55 | hrw | ah.. |
| 11:05.22 | hrw | building |
| 11:05.26 | lardman | thanks |
| 11:09.01 | hrw | 0.1.10a |
| 11:09.33 | lardman | thank you |
| 11:11.10 | hrw | np |
| 11:11.53 | hrw | fsck.... arm5vt... |
| 11:12.07 | lardman | same trouble here :) |
| 11:12.29 | hrw | np. machine back to collie and rebuild |
| 11:12.51 | hrw | my 353 build is collie based. c7x0 exist becaus of rebuilded kernel |
| 11:15.40 | lardman | Should I add gpsd-emul (Earthmate user library patched gpsd) to OE? |
| 11:16.07 | hrw | dont know |
| 11:16.30 | lardman | it might be useful for EarthMate usb gps users, but I'm not sure |
| 11:16.48 | lardman | I'll see what happens here then decide: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=3953&st=15&p=79046&#entry79046 |
| 11:16.55 | hrw | if you will maintain it then go ahead ;) |
| 11:17.13 | lardman | Oh, I'm happy to do that, just want to see if it'll work first ;) |
| 11:17.32 | lardman | Could I give you an url to the .bb so you can build a non armv5te version quickly? |
| 11:18.33 | hrw | not now - have to go and buy some stuff |
| 11:18.40 | lardman | ok |
| 11:18.40 | hrw | x-230 speakers is one of them |
| 11:19.12 | lardman | For your Z? ;) |
| 11:30.21 | subdue | lardman: ambitious! |
| 11:32.14 | lardman | Got to try to push the boundaries hey |
| 11:32.30 | XorA | the Z as a mobile dj unit :-) |
| 11:32.59 | XorA | I suppose technically you could use touchscreen to scratch mp3s on |
| 11:33.40 | subdue | lardman: I think it's cool to update the gps stuff for the Z |
| 11:33.51 | subdue | lardman: in fact, I'd love to see gpsdrive on the sharp rom :) |
| 11:34.02 | subdue | or kstars |
| 11:34.39 | subdue | unfortunately, OE gets all the fun stuff |
| 11:35.58 | XorA | subdue: OE can build sharp rom apps |
| 11:35.58 | subdue | that's not what I'm saying |
| 11:35.59 | subdue | I'm hoping to see OE apps on the sharp rom |
| 11:36.00 | XorA | subdue: thats what I just said |
| 11:36.03 | subdue | oh |
| 11:36.13 | XorA | OE is a build system, OZ is the distribution |
| 11:36.20 | subdue | well, afaik, gpsdrive and kstars wont run on the sharp rom |
| 11:36.44 | XorA | OE can compile a lot of OZ stuff for sharprom as well |
| 11:36.57 | subdue | that'd be cool, when they get around to it |
| 11:37.26 | subdue | admittedly, I do run some stuff on my 6K that were made for OZ |
| 11:37.27 | XorA | subdue: we will probably never do a sharp based distro, but the capability is there, it just needs someone to step up and do it |
| 11:37.37 | lardman | subdue: I'm not doing this for the Sharp ROM |
| 11:37.47 | subdue | lardman: yeah, I figured that |
| 11:38.07 | lardman | subdue: I don't run it, but someone could compile this stuff for the Sharp ROM as XorA said |
| 11:38.12 | subdue | lardman: but the fact that you're building it for OZ, means that it is that much closer to being able to be on the sharp rom |
| 11:38.18 | lardman | subdue: I was just trying to help out |
| 11:38.31 | subdue | I think updating it for the Z in general is the biggest step |
| 11:38.55 | lardman | subdue: you talking about the EarthMate? |
| 11:39.06 | subdue | gps stuff |
| 11:39.09 | subdue | in general |
| 11:39.37 | subdue | up to now, palm had the most fun gps stuff |
| 11:39.39 | lardman | ok, just 2 things atm - Earthmate on 6000 and gpsd for qpegps I was trying to sort some people out |
| 11:39.40 | subdue | and windoze of course |
| 11:39.57 | lardman | XorA: have you got a display on that then? |
| 11:40.00 | subdue | every step makes it closer :) |
| 11:40.11 | lardman | XorA: I've got an untested bb for xmms somewhere here |
| 11:40.33 | XorA | lardman: beep insisted on drawing 24bit to 16bit visual, stupid crap |
| 11:40.41 | subdue | btw, any have the email for the author of petite peinture? |
| 11:40.50 | lardman | XorA: yep, that I saw, I don't know how to fix it |
| 11:40.58 | subdue | I've been to his homepage, but can't make heads or tails of where his email is |
| 11:49.17 | dgram | XorA: so close now - ringing the phone number of the sim card increments the RX by 5 each time, and writes 'EI#f."' in minicom each time... just a matter of getting the baud rate right now |
| 11:49.38 | XorA | dgram: 115200 and 8n1 I would suspect |
| 11:49.40 | dgram | im using setserial /dev/ttyS3 baud_base 115200 |
| 11:49.54 | dgram | and 115200 8n1 in minicom |
| 11:49.59 | dgram | which produces those results |
| 11:50.17 | dgram | i'll try varing the speed from minicom |
| 11:50.27 | Noodles | Try 921600 |
| 11:50.39 | dgram | Noodles: using setserial or in minicom? |
| 11:50.44 | Noodles | Both. |
| 11:50.50 | dgram | ok trying now |
| 11:50.57 | Noodles | For my Bluetooth card I do a setserial and then hciattach with that speed. |
| 11:52.17 | XorA | dgram: http://www.tuxmedia.com/yopydev/modules/gprs/gprs.pdf I just found by accident |
| 11:52.57 | XorA | dgram: are you still setting UART to 16550A |
| 11:53.04 | dgram | I am |
| 11:53.10 | dgram | max speed in minicom is 230400 |
| 11:53.23 | dgram | setting it to that gives me garbles output when i expect to see "RING"'s |
| 11:53.32 | dgram | XorA: looking at that link now... |
| 11:54.38 | dgram | bugger - cant read french :) |
| 11:55.10 | XorA | dgram: try 115200 8n1 hardware flow control |
| 11:55.22 | dgram | trying now.... |
| 11:55.35 | dgram | i'll try all speeds in minicom and get back to you |
| 11:55.44 | XorA | dgram: so close it hurts :-) |
| 11:56.16 | Noodles | Do you have cu? |
| 11:56.32 | Noodles | That'll handle the higher speeds. |
| 11:58.17 | dgram | XorA: i nearly fsckn jumped thru the wall when i saw stuff come up in minicom man... jeez |
| 11:58.42 | dgram | Noodles: is cu a terminal alternative to minicom? |
| 11:58.53 | Noodles | It's a simpler alternative. |
| 11:59.08 | Noodles | Doesn't do any terminal emulation itself, for example. |
| 11:59.19 | b0ti|work | XorA, lardman: the cfu1 driver works now with 2.6.12. |
| 11:59.21 | dgram | kewl... i used to use telix back in the BBS days so minicom feels like home |
| 11:59.24 | dgram | i'll try cu tho, thx |
| 11:59.50 | dgram | Noodles: i see, thx |
| 12:14.17 | dgram | not having any joy in varying the baud rate - each rate from 230400 down to 300 produces garble when im expecting a "RING" |
| 12:14.55 | dgram | its consistant garble for every 'ring' and each baud rate differs... so im getting consistancy |
| 12:15.05 | dgram | the RX counters going up hapily too |
| 12:15.10 | XorA | dgram: ok, try a kernel without my hacks |
| 12:15.20 | XorA | dgram: maybe they screwed up the speed |
| 12:15.27 | dgram | XorA: forgot to mention.. a am already :) |
| 12:15.34 | dgram | I am* |
| 12:15.40 | XorA | dgram: wicked |
| 12:15.44 | lardman|lunch | b0Ti|work: good news, did you fix the things you wanted to in 2.6.11, or just move anyway? |
| 12:16.01 | XorA | dgram: so what changed? just the setserial baud_base? |
| 12:16.05 | dgram | thats all |
| 12:16.20 | dgram | setserial /dev/ttyS3 baud_base 115200 |
| 12:16.35 | dgram | i will try vary this |
| 12:16.41 | dgram | see what happens |
| 12:17.01 | dgram | i might go RTFMan page on setseral actually :) |
| 12:17.02 | dgram | bbiaf |
| 12:17.09 | XorA | dgram: try baud_base 921600 and minicom speed 115200 |
| 12:17.17 | dgram | ok i;; do that first :) |
| 12:19.15 | dgram | no good - RX increments by 2, and for each phone ring, I get "." instead of "RING" |
| 12:19.34 | dgram | very positive results tho :) |
| 12:19.35 | Noodles | I think you want a client that can ask for a baud rate of 921600. |
| 12:19.55 | dgram | ok noodles i'll get cu |
| 12:20.01 | dgram | can i ipkg install cu? |
| 12:20.33 | b0ti|work | lardman: I guess I could make a version for 2.6.11 too, the current one works with 2.6.12-rc3 |
| 12:23.24 | b0ti|work | lardman: there is still a bug, when you eject and reinsert the cfu1, it will crash. I reverted some changes thinking it won't affect anything, but it did ;) I'll fix that tonight. |
| 12:24.36 | lardman | b0Ti|work: I'm not worried about 2.6.11 in truth, I'm eager to move to 2.6.12 - hopefully it'll fix my WinXP rndis lockups |
| 12:25.28 | lardman | b0ti|work: did you enable usbfs? If so, via make menuconfig, or just by editing the defconfig? |
| 12:26.11 | b0ti|work | we need to have the defconfig changed to include usb host support with some basic usb modules (keyboard, storage, mouse) and usbfs plus sd_mod (for usb-storage). |
| 12:26.30 | b0ti|work | lardman: I did it via menuconfig |
| 12:26.41 | lardman | ok |
| 12:27.30 | b0ti|work | I have precompiled modules and kernel (2.6.12) at http://siliconium.net/wp if you need it. |
| 12:29.53 | lardman | it's a simple install modules, then flash kernel job? |
| 12:30.02 | b0ti|work | should be. |
| 12:30.06 | lardman | :) |
| 12:30.11 | lardman | Ok, I'll give it a go |
| 12:30.23 | lardman | I need to build the kernel anyway though so I'll start that too |
| 12:30.29 | lardman | cd .. |
| 12:30.35 | lardman | oops, wrong window |
| 12:30.52 | tanq | thats why you have to change the color of the irc terminal |
| 12:30.54 | tanq | heh |
| 12:31.02 | b0ti|work | :) |
| 12:31.03 | lardman | tanq: WindowsXP |
| 12:31.11 | tanq | and? |
| 12:31.22 | lardman | I move the mouse and the focus doesn't move with it |
| 12:31.29 | lardman | though I know it can be made to |
| 12:31.52 | tanq | man i can't wait to get that mac at work |
| 12:32.50 | XorA | lardman: there is a powertool for XP called X-Mouse, guess what it does :-) |
| 12:32.53 | lardman | Is bitkeeper down? |
| 12:33.30 | lardman | XorA: yeah, I'm sort of stuck half way between - I think the main problem is that I have two screens and I forget where I last clicked/lef the mouse |
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| 13:03.08 | lardman | http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=3953&st=15&p=79061&#entry79061 |
| 13:03.22 | lardman | any ideas about the "ELF file version does not match current one" error? |
| 13:24.57 | dgram | OMFG!! i got it working! |
| 13:25.17 | dgram | setserial /dev/ttyS3 baud_base 57600 |
| 13:25.25 | dgram | minicom set to 57600 8n1 |
| 13:25.27 | dgram | done! |
| 13:25.28 | dgram | lol! |
| 13:26.08 | dgram | XorA: after all that..... cant believe it was so simple |
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| 13:26.56 | Rupert-Giles | grrr i forgot what mencoder cmdline i use |
| 13:29.34 | XorA | dgram: wicked, sign up on openzaurus.org and write a howto for us please |
| 13:32.33 | lardman | b0ti|work: ok, bitkeeper appears willing to clone now, how did you build 2.6.12? set KERNEL_VERSION="2.6.12-rc3" in local.conf? |
| 13:33.52 | dgram | XorA: woll definitely do that |
| 13:34.00 | b0ti|work | lardman: just removed the PREFERRED kernel (was 2.6.11) from my conf. |
| 13:34.03 | dgram | im just trying to get gprs actually connected now |
| 13:34.09 | dgram | should be fairly trivial |
| 13:35.03 | b0ti|work | lardman: you can build with "bitbake linux-openzaurus-2.6.12-rc3-blah" |
| 13:35.33 | lardman | b0ti|work: yes, I was just wondering how you'd overcome the changes RP made to stop .12 from being selected automatically |
| 13:35.38 | dgram | its 11:34pm here, i'll start writing a howto tomorrow after some config tweaking. I'll test it on a clean 3.5.3 build before i send it to you guys for review |
| 13:35.54 | Rupert-Giles | heh my Zaurus did that thing where when you try to play a video it liek dulls the screen and messes it up all white |
| 13:35.57 | Rupert-Giles | doh :| |
| 13:35.58 | Rupert-Giles | :D |
| 13:47.42 | Rupert-Giles | does Z not like have libpng or something |
| 13:48.01 | lardman | If I build 2.6.12-rc3 directly, and then do a bitbake gpe-image, will it be pulled in, or will 2.6.11 be used instead? |
| 13:50.10 | b0ti|work | lardman: I never built an image before, so no Idea. Don't forget to modyfy your initscripts so you don't get the 1 min penalty. |
| 13:50.47 | lardman | b0ti|work: 1 min penalty? mismatched kernel & scripts? |
| 13:50.55 | b0ti|work | lardman: yeah |
| 13:51.11 | lardman | b0ti|work: I was just going to rebuild GPE image and then it'll be fine |
| 13:52.02 | lardman | b0ti|work: Just looking to see where I need to make the change though - setting it in local.conf, then building virtual/kernel seemed to do nothing |
| 13:54.21 | b0ti|work | lardman: thought you already built a GPE image, but it seems like this is a daily routine for you. =P |
| 13:54.44 | lardman | b0ti|work: well I may as well build a new one - freshen the existing one, etc. |
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| 13:56.04 | b0ti|work | lardman: is the new build available somewhere? I'm planning to try GPE on the weekend. |
| 13:56.33 | lardman | b0ti|work: I can put my 2.6.11 image up somewhere if you want, or the new 2.6.12 once I get it built |
| 13:58.06 | b0ti|work | I'd prefer the .12 one, but if it doesn't make a difference (initscripts, etc) I guess .11 will do. |
| 13:59.07 | lardman | I'll get .12 sorted |
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| 14:26.35 | lardman | I've got 2.6.12 building with the PREFERRED_VERSION, thanks XorA |
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| 14:33.00 | KallDrexx | Can anyone tell me why on the opie initrd when I install the OZ opie-reader it tells me it can't find libopie.so.1? |
| 14:43.02 | lardman | does the file exist? |
| 14:44.03 | lardman | b0ti|work: you got a .config or defconfig you want to use specifically - I'm just about to start gpe-image w/ 2.6.12 |
| 14:45.36 | KallDrexx | I can't find it |
| 14:45.45 | KallDrexx | I can't find any libopie.so tho |
| 14:45.51 | KallDrexx | so I don't htink I"m looking in the right areas |
| 14:46.04 | lardman | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:46.11 | KallDrexx | yep wasn't looking in the right ara |
| 14:46.43 | KallDrexx | ugh no libopie.so there |
| 14:46.48 | KallDrexx | where would I get it? |
| 14:47.14 | lardman | should be in the feed - do : ipkg install libopie1 |
| 14:47.27 | KallDrexx | cool thanks |
| 14:47.43 | lardman | you are using opie aren't you? |
| 14:47.55 | KallDrexx | yep |
| 14:48.01 | lardman | good good |
| 14:48.09 | KallDrexx | thats why I was confused :) |
| 14:48.23 | lardman | me too |
| 14:48.40 | KallDrexx | Oz site has been going very slow for me |
| 14:48.42 | KallDrexx | the website |
| 14:48.45 | KallDrexx | last night and today |
| 14:48.47 | XorA | I thounh libopie was v2 or 3 these days (note Im normally wrong) |
| 14:49.00 | b0ti|work | lardman: my .config is at home and I'm at work now. just make sure usb host controller support is in, with basic usb modules (storage, mouse, keyboard), sd_mod, usbfs. |
| 14:49.06 | lardman | v2, but I thought v1 was still needed |
| 14:49.16 | KallDrexx | XorA, dunno but I guess opie-reader is built against opie1 |
| 14:49.39 | lardman | b0ti|work: make menuconfig doesn't give me many options for USB modules, I suppose I'll have to edit it by hand |
| 14:49.40 | XorA | KallDrexx: if opie-reader is from oz feed then ipkg should pull in everything on its own |
| 14:49.58 | KallDrexx | no |
| 14:50.03 | KallDrexx | though I should check if it's in the oz feed |
| 14:50.12 | b0ti|work | lardman: it should. are you running it with ARCH=arm make menucfg |
| 14:50.14 | b0ti|work | ? |
| 14:50.16 | XorA | KallDrexx: installing on a FAT card? |
| 14:50.20 | KallDrexx | yeah |
| 14:50.27 | XorA | KallDrexx: doesnt work, need to be ext2 |
| 14:50.29 | KallDrexx | don't have the usb->z cable yet |
| 14:50.36 | lardman | b0ti|work: I did arch=arm make menuconfig |
| 14:50.41 | KallDrexx | XorA, what doesn't work? |
| 14:50.49 | XorA | KallDrexx: installing onto a FAT acard |
| 14:51.10 | KallDrexx | yeah I've noticed, hopefully libopie1 doen'st take much space so I can install it on the internal storage |
| 14:51.19 | lardman | b0ti|work: got it |
| 14:51.33 | lardman | b0ti|work: verbose debug messages on host? |
| 14:52.05 | b0ti|work | lardman: debug for usb? Not needed I think. |
| 14:52.13 | lardman | b0ti|work: okay |
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| 14:53.49 | KallDrexx | lardman, I can't find a libopie1 in the feed O.o |
| 14:54.04 | lardman | try ipkg install libopie then |
| 14:54.17 | KallDrexx | well i"M manually looking cause I can't get network on my z yet |
| 14:56.18 | KallDrexx | actually wait |
| 14:56.23 | KallDrexx | found an updated opie-reader in the feed |
| 14:56.25 | KallDrexx | let me try that |
| 14:58.16 | KallDrexx | awsome that one worked :) |
| 14:59.50 | KallDrexx | wierd |
| 14:59.58 | KallDrexx | opie reader is going down past the task bar O.o |
| 15:02.31 | KallDrexx | gotta go, thanks again :) |
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| 15:34.43 | zmiq | b0ti: r u there? |
| 15:43.00 | zmiq | ~seen bOti |
| 15:43.02 | ibot | zmiq: i haven't seen 'boti' |
| 15:43.11 | zmiq | ~seen b0ti |
| 15:43.12 | ibot | b0ti <~boti@82.79.98.49> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 19h 45m 52s ago, saying: 'it won't work with 2.6.11, but I might do a backport if needed.'. |
| 15:43.28 | XorA | ~seen b0ti|work: |
| 15:43.29 | ibot | XorA: i haven't seen 'b0ti|work:' |
| 15:43.31 | XorA | ~seen b0ti|work |
| 15:43.32 | ibot | b0ti|work is currently on #oe (1d 7h 40m) #openzaurus (1d 7h 40m). Has said a total of 25 messages. Is idling for 51m 27s |
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| 15:44.38 | zmiq | uhmm.. ok. Just to let him/er know I got a way to usb connect oz3.5.3 with desktop-linux-2.4.x (usbnet must be patched) |
| 15:45.05 | XorA | zmiq: add the vendor id's? |
| 15:45.34 | zmiq | xora: not, it's much more stuff than that. |
| 15:45.54 | XorA | zmiq: :-( |
| 15:46.07 | zmiq | but it's done!! ;-) |
| 15:47.08 | zmiq | it happens that usbnet version in kernel.org is wayyy too old compared to real one available in usb-.... |
| 15:47.31 | XorA | zmiq: I wish linux kernel would stop doing that |
| 15:47.44 | zmiq | does anyone know why kernel 2.4.30, the latest and greatest, doesn ship with latest usbnet.c version?!?!? |
| 15:48.07 | zmiq | anyway, just grabing latest usbnet.c made the trick. |
| 15:49.08 | XorA | zmiq: that is good news at least, now how to teach lusers to do that |
| 15:49.22 | zmiq | I must take the kids for a walk now; later tonight, maybe tomorrow (depending on what's on tv) I'll post the solution on the oz wiki; I was so happy I just wanted b0ti to know, since I think s/he was also interested in that |
| 15:49.53 | hrw | zmiq: 2.4 series does not have many things from 2.6 I think |
| 15:51.16 | zmiq | yeah, but I talked with usbnet owner, and he told me he backported to 2.4; thus, why those backports are not included in 2.4.30, and I had to go to the source repository directly to get them? |
| 15:51.45 | hrw | dont know |
| 15:51.51 | hrw | I have 2.4 only on collie |
| 15:52.06 | zmiq | and those changes were done something like 10 months ago!! |
| 15:52.16 | XorA | part of the problem is linux tends to ignore big patches, and people get fedup maintaining code other people have broken, so in the end they stop |
| 15:52.47 | zmiq | anyway, problem solved! |
| 15:53.13 | zmiq | I'm just a kick and dirty patcher, so I'll post the kick and dirty fix I made |
| 15:53.26 | zmiq | gotta go. bye |
| 15:53.35 | XorA-gone | bye everyone |
| 15:55.27 | hrw | by XorA-gone |
| 16:00.22 | b0ti|work | good to know usbnet will work on 2.4. I'll wait for the usbnet-howto update. |
| 16:01.02 | hrw | b0ti|work: update it if you want and have something to add |
| 16:04.18 | b0ti|work | hrw: brigding might be worth adding: http://www.linux-usb.org/usbnet/#bridge |
| 16:05.00 | hrw | b0ti|work: feel free |
| 16:05.19 | hrw | I can add how to configure udev on host when two Z are used (2.4+2.6 one) |
| 16:07.05 | b0ti|work | hrw: I haven't set it up on my system yet, but I'll do it sometime, so I can't comment now. And the link explains it well, so just adding the link would be sufficient. |
| 16:07.43 | hrw | perhaps - but I wont do it. |
| 16:07.50 | hrw | randall had to maintain that howto |
| 16:08.07 | b0ti|work | ok |
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| 19:32.22 | alan_ | plop |
| 19:35.17 | alan|philo | if anyone want to help me anwering to "what is a fact ?", i agree. ^^ |
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| 20:27.13 | alan|philo | it's fub to see that by this hour half the oz community is going to bed, and half is waking up ^^ |
| 20:27.57 | alan|philo | btw, hello firebalrog bisho Pavouk and kolla_ ^^ |
| 20:28.16 | alan|philo | s/fub/fun |
| 20:28.47 | alan|philo | ... |
| 20:37.45 | alan|philo | ladies and gentlemen, THE webmaster is back ^^ |
| 20:38.16 | alan|philo | hrw: did you write the video encoding tutorial on the OZ website ? |
| 20:39.11 | alan|philo | the -vo w100 option for mplayer doesn't work... |
| 20:39.22 | hrw | no |
| 20:39.24 | hrw | its xora |
| 20:39.59 | alan|philo | oki |
| 20:40.12 | alan|philo | thanks |
| 20:51.25 | B0Ti | now that the cfu1-driver is getting stable, it's bedtime for me too. |
| 20:51.47 | B0Ti | lardman: you might want to get the new driver code from my page. |
| 20:51.51 | lardman | B0Ti: gpe-image failed, I'll do some fixing |
| 20:52.07 | lardman | B0Ti: well done on the cfu1 btw :) |
| 20:52.14 | B0Ti | thanx |
| 20:52.52 | B0Ti | nite all |
| 21:01.35 | alan|philo | lardman: what is cfu1 ? (not that i think i'll be able to understand, but i'm curious...) |
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| 21:04.57 | lardman | alan|philo: It's the driver needed for the ratoc usb host cf card |
| 21:05.37 | alan|philo | wooo... i knwow some pdaxrom users that are going to be jalous ^^ |
| 21:06.17 | lardman | Indeed :) I just need to get quake running a bit better ;) |
| 21:06.37 | alan|philo | hey, wait a minte, that means a z could be used with an external hdd... |
| 21:06.55 | lardman | yes, in fact it already can afaik if you're using the 2.4.18 kernel |
| 21:07.15 | lardman | this is porting the driver (well actually the better one which is already in 2.6) to the 2.6 kernel |
| 21:09.00 | alan|philo | wouch !! cool. |
| 21:13.55 | alan|philo | if i understand all this, the next oz release will provide a stable gpe image with a 2.6 kernel and a working driver for ratoc usb host ?!? wow... |
| 21:14.34 | alan|philo | wil it also make the coffe for me each morning ? |
| 21:16.44 | hrw | alan|philo: gpe with 2.6 on c7x0 is now possible |
| 21:19.17 | hrw | ~seen [cc]smart |
| 21:19.19 | ibot | [cc]smart <~smart@gw.ptr-62-65-149-158.customer.ch.netstream.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #openzaurus, 1d 23h 5m 44s ago, saying: 'ibot ibot'. |
| 21:21.26 | lardman | alan|philo: I'm running gpe with 2.6.11 atm |
| 21:21.59 | alan|philo | hrw : i tried flashing opie with a 2.4 kernel that was made for gpe, it didn't work... |
| 21:22.18 | alan|philo | it works on the other way ? |
| 21:22.39 | lardman | alan|philo: no, the kernel modules are in the ROM image and they are required |
| 21:22.58 | alan|philo | how did you upfrade ? |
| 21:23.05 | lardman | alan|philo: mine is made from OE |
| 21:23.11 | alan|philo | ho... |
| 21:23.12 | lardman | built it myself |
| 21:23.29 | alan|philo | oki... that is much over my skills ^^ |
| 21:23.33 | lardman | Though I understand that there may be an intermediate release of GPE with 2.6.x |
| 21:23.49 | alan|philo | glop glop ! |
| 21:23.51 | hrw | I use opie - old one.. 21-23h old one |
| 21:24.04 | lardman | :) |
| 21:24.05 | alan|philo | ^^ |
| 21:24.17 | hrw | 20050510 |
| 21:24.30 | hrw | so networksettings still show wifi0... |
| 21:25.04 | hrw | but 20050511 wont so maybe I will build it tomorrow |
| 21:25.13 | alan|philo | ^^ |
| 21:25.41 | hrw | http://www.hrw.one.pl/index.php/2005/05/08/year-with-openembedded/ |
| 21:26.43 | hrw | cu |
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| 21:34.08 | Plouj | is there a way to play with openzaurus on some emulator? |
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| 22:04.19 | alan|philo | good night ! Plouj : let me know if you have an answer. |
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| 22:39.40 | offroadgeek | I'm trying to mkfs.ext2 on my sd card via my c1000 with oz 3.5.3 but I only see mkfs.minix on the z... any suggestions? |
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| 23:08.23 | jh_ | offroadgeek: you can install the ext2fs utilities |
| 23:08.39 | jh_ | (getting exact pkg name)... |
| 23:09.07 | jh_ | e2fsprogs (might also need e2fsporgs-mke2fs) |
| 23:09.26 | offroadgeek | jh thanks... I'll install that |
| 23:09.45 | offroadgeek | I just popped it into my 6000 for the mkfs.ex2 part |
| 23:09.57 | jh_ | ah, that works too :) |
| 23:14.32 | offroadgeek | I'm *really* impressed with 3.5.3... even the beta version for the 1k |
| 23:14.55 | offroadgeek | I haven't used oz since 3.3.5 on my 5500 |
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| 23:20.48 | jh_ | yeah... 3.5.3 on the 1k is nice. i've got pocketworkstation running, as well, which is fun |
| 23:21.10 | jh_ | but mainly i'm in kopi + konqueror in oz |
| 23:22.12 | offroadgeek | I'm just starting the pocketworkstation install on my 1k now... |
| 23:22.27 | offroadgeek | I read your post about it.. and I'm looking forward to seeing it on my 1k |
| 23:23.04 | jh_ | base or full tar file? even the base took a while to untar, but i did it all on the 1k |
| 23:23.49 | offroadgeek | not sure yet :) |
| 23:24.06 | offroadgeek | I just got the gnu-tar.gz and was suprised it was only ~250k |
| 23:24.57 | offroadgeek | I'm going to do the full (on the z) |
| 23:25.11 | offroadgeek | I went out and got an extra 1gb SD card for this |
| 23:25.26 | jh_ | the gnu-tar actually segfaulted for me, does it for you? I ended up using the tar that came with OZ... seems ok so far |
| 23:25.56 | offroadgeek | segfaulted when gunzipping it? |
| 23:26.02 | jh_ | when running it |
| 23:28.43 | jh_ | it's also pretty cool pulling up pocketworkstation via vnc from my desktop at work. gotta love this little device. |
| 23:34.33 | offroadgeek | jh_: do you have (or know where) the d-pad patch? |
| 23:35.23 | jh_ | it was in libqte... is it not in the upgrades feed? i built my own |
| 23:36.27 | offroadgeek | lemme look... thanks |
| 23:37.01 | offroadgeek | ahh.. I see it now.... thanks |
| 23:37.08 | jh_ | if it's not: http://www.haslup.net/zaurus/feeds/akita/libqte2_2.3.10-r15_akita.ipk |
| 23:37.37 | jh_ | ah good. i was actually getting used to the rotated d-pad :-) |
| 23:41.26 | offroadgeek | yeah... I'm pretty used to it.. but it does make it harder to play the games |
| 23:42.32 | jh_ | heh, yeah, that's true |
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| 23:47.14 | offroadgeek | hmm.. it's failing on a dep 'libts' |
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| 23:49.37 | offroadgeek | but it's already installed... maybe I'll try with -force-depends |
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| 23:56.28 | offroadgeek | jh_: in your post on the forums you mention the need to specify "-hw c3000", at what point do I do that? |